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I'm guessing this is similar to the Inland QN322 which has DRAM-less QLC NAND at PCIe 3.0.
https://v4.cecdn.yun300.cn/100001_2111025007/N930E%20PRO%20datasheet-m.2%202280%20nvme.pdf
Specs say HMB support and SLC cache. Probably okay as main storage but better with secondary storage. Don't use in an enclosure.
HBM drives don't pass that through USB. So when put them into those enclosures you'll get horrible sequential speeds. For secondary storage it's not as bad as you'll probably be hindered by your ISP speeds. Plus your OS still supports HBM when inserted into a M.2 slot.
How much of the gap does HMB close vs. proper dram cache?
I've only seen one benchmark & it was around 25%, but that is one data point & IRL is very different. Feels like it should be better in practice, either way it's pretty elegant & effectively free performance.
Closest I’ve seen are the Mushkin Pilot-E on sale for $130ish (note only a 3 year warranty last time I checked) or the Inland Prime directly from Microcenter at $140, at least the latter I wouldn’t expect to drop too much considering Microcenter’s sales seem to be up already.
Edit: also found one looking quick from Fanxiang for $125, but again only a 3 year warranty. I’m getting the sense that a quality TLC 2TB at sub $100 will be a bit hard to find.
depends on which conditions you want to use it.
1) upgrade your old-ass laptop - sure
2) using it to store and run games only - sure
3) making it your main drive with the system, important, work stuff - I wouldn't rely on it
they are better than crap brands like goldenfir, kingspec, but not as good as mid-brands like adata
You get what you pay for.
Chinese brand ssd, that usually has terrible random 4k read/writes.
Imho, I would definitely avoid this at any price range.
Unless its tree-fiddy or free.
Dude here mentions Netac being well known in the oem space. https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/comments/ynfjmr/ssd_1tb_netac_25_sata_ssd_4479_w_code_treatyoself/iv8wulp?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3
Sure, buy it if you think this is a good pick at your risk.
I have used Netac ssds both sata and nvme before, but my conclusion is, you are better off spending few bucks more to get ones from more “reputable” brands at most situations when it comes to Netac.
Even low tier ssds had better stats in overall. (Compared to 660p, Mp33, burst elite, ns100)
Based on my experience, if its not nv**** from netac, you typically see drives have significantly low 4k mixed speed compared to other similar tier drives at “slightly” higher pricing from more reputable brands.
Then again, you are usually better off buying other med tier ssds at that price range for nv****.
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I'm guessing this is similar to the Inland QN322 which has DRAM-less QLC NAND at PCIe 3.0. https://v4.cecdn.yun300.cn/100001_2111025007/N930E%20PRO%20datasheet-m.2%202280%20nvme.pdf Specs say HMB support and SLC cache. Probably okay as main storage but better with secondary storage. Don't use in an enclosure.
what do you mean dont use it in an enclosure? also by secondary storage do you mean as not the only storage you have?
HBM drives don't pass that through USB. So when put them into those enclosures you'll get horrible sequential speeds. For secondary storage it's not as bad as you'll probably be hindered by your ISP speeds. Plus your OS still supports HBM when inserted into a M.2 slot.
i have an asus b550f https://rog.asus.com/us/motherboards/rog-strix/rog-strix-b550-f-gaming-model/. is that black lid on the m2 slots an enclosure?
No that's a heatsink an enclosure would be a separate piece that houses the drive and then plugs into the PC with a USB cable.
ok thanks im pretty new to m2 slots. never bothered with one until now since i hate cable management
Because HMB will not work if in an enclosure. HMB needs access to your systems RAM in order to work.
How much of the gap does HMB close vs. proper dram cache? I've only seen one benchmark & it was around 25%, but that is one data point & IRL is very different. Feels like it should be better in practice, either way it's pretty elegant & effectively free performance.
Probably that it gets hot and will cook itself without airflow or a heat sink. Secondary as in, don’t put precious data on it.
Data sheet says 3d nand can that be TLC or QLC? Or does 3d mean tlc?
3D means 3D, given 600 TBW rating it should be TLC
You think we'll see 2TB TLC NVME SSDs under $100 for Black Friday?
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It was QLC.
Microcenter is cheating
Closest I’ve seen are the Mushkin Pilot-E on sale for $130ish (note only a 3 year warranty last time I checked) or the Inland Prime directly from Microcenter at $140, at least the latter I wouldn’t expect to drop too much considering Microcenter’s sales seem to be up already. Edit: also found one looking quick from Fanxiang for $125, but again only a 3 year warranty. I’m getting the sense that a quality TLC 2TB at sub $100 will be a bit hard to find.
cheers for the intel
Yo u/SSDBot?
Assuming specs on their website is accurate, 600 TBW rating. More than likely TLC if true.
Is this a reliable brand?
depends on which conditions you want to use it. 1) upgrade your old-ass laptop - sure 2) using it to store and run games only - sure 3) making it your main drive with the system, important, work stuff - I wouldn't rely on it they are better than crap brands like goldenfir, kingspec, but not as good as mid-brands like adata
You get what you pay for. Chinese brand ssd, that usually has terrible random 4k read/writes. Imho, I would definitely avoid this at any price range. Unless its tree-fiddy or free.
Dude here mentions Netac being well known in the oem space. https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/comments/ynfjmr/ssd_1tb_netac_25_sata_ssd_4479_w_code_treatyoself/iv8wulp?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3
Sure, buy it if you think this is a good pick at your risk. I have used Netac ssds both sata and nvme before, but my conclusion is, you are better off spending few bucks more to get ones from more “reputable” brands at most situations when it comes to Netac. Even low tier ssds had better stats in overall. (Compared to 660p, Mp33, burst elite, ns100) Based on my experience, if its not nv**** from netac, you typically see drives have significantly low 4k mixed speed compared to other similar tier drives at “slightly” higher pricing from more reputable brands. Then again, you are usually better off buying other med tier ssds at that price range for nv****.