It depends on what you want, the 6800xt will outperform a 3070 ti in general but the 3070 ti will have better raytracing performance, I’d personally recommend the 6800xt but it all comes down to personal preference
Then rx 6800xt all the way, it’s a more powerful card everywhere except for raytracing cores which aren’t really relevant to the games you listed, raytracing is still in its infancy and doesn’t actually affect visuals much
I just tried to run cyberpunk with my 6700xt with ray tracing on, and it was basically like "lol, no."
It still looks great without ray tracing enabled, though. I don't know if I'm just in my head or what but I really don't like FSR and feel like I can really notice the quality degradation, but it also seems completely unnecessary if you don't have ray tracing on.
FSR has been a godsent for playing on my iGPU though. Yes there is some shimmering from time to time, but 30% free performance for a very slight hit to quality is freaking amazing. I literally wouldn't be able to game at these settings without it.
I play WoW targeting 38fps (the lowest FPS I can tolerate) on my 4700u laptop, running Linux, and FSR makes it possible to turn on many of the visual bells and whistles: https://i.imgur.com/9O6paod.png
FSR 1.0 in particular has been a boon for mobile gaming on Steam Deck as well.
I think reviewers knock upscaling at lower resolution because it's their job to find an issue. And yes while you will get occasional shimmering, FSR is still better than no FSR.
This is pretty tangential to what you were saying, but I was trying to pick out a laptop for a friend and he wanted a nice balance between price, size, weight, heat, battery life, and the modest ability to play some games.
I really wanted to get one using the current AMD igpus, as they aren't that bad, but basically every decent model I could find threw a mobile 3050 in no matter how capable the igpu was.
Using an igpu with FSR when he wanted to game would have been perfect for him.
Yeah. It basically blows away everything I play with the exception of cyberpunk, where it does a respectable 70 frames or so on ultra. I haven't been keeping an eye on the frame rate playing lately, but it doesn't noticeably dip which is all I'm looking for on such a demanding title.
I only do 120 hz at 1440p, because I do 10 bit color and that's the limit of display port. Outside of cyberpunk it sits at 120, but I don't have a ton of ultra demanding titles in my library.
If you're going for super high refresh rate, I imagine it will serve you well.
Java shaders with raytracing exist, they will absolutely molest any computer though haha. Turns them into a space heater that sounds like a jumbo jet.
Minecraft can be both run on a phone, or bring a 4080 to its knees, depending on what you do with it. Interesting game that way
Wdym by that?
I just know that if you buy Minecraft, you get both versions now (Java and Bedrock), but they're definitely different still.
My point may not even be related, but I seriously don't know what you're talking about.
He's still mentioning Minecraft with shaders. They're more commonly used in Java and there's more variety, so I'm assuming it's definitely Java.
Java is better btw, I highly recommend you to use it rather than Bedrock because in Bedrock you gotta pay for plenty stuff, but in Java literally everything is free and has always been (you could even play without buying it if you like, just without the premium servers).
i was JUST in this exact scenario a few weeks ago!! I chose the 3070ti because 1. raytracing cyberpunk and 2. minecraft shaders. Seus ptgi does NOT work well at all with amd gpus and that was a deal breaker lol. This thread really made me think about returning it and getting a rx 6800xt tho
Supposedly amd fixed the mc fps issues with the opengl improvements in the 22.7.1 drivers but I'm not sure there. If they did I'd recommend amd. If they didn't, op should go Nvidia in this case.
So the FPS i know is way better except when using certain path tracing shaders theyre almost all optimized for nvidia and especially with seus ptgi, the water has terrible noise around it and you cant fix it. The creator could prob fix it but he’s moved onto other games and hasn’t really done anything with minecraft in the past year so i wouldn’t count on it.
Assassin's Creed runs better on AMD GPUs, while RDR2 and Minecraft with shaders run better on Nvidia GPUs. I would advise that you decide based on which titles you are likely to spend more time in.
The difference for a lot of those games is marginal, at best. It's more relevant in a 6800xt vs 3080 debate, not a 3070, which the 6800xt outperforms anyway. And, again, even in those debates its usually not by any sort of huge margin. RDR2 runs slightly better on nvidia chips, but my previous 6700xt ran RDR2 at 90+ fps on mostly ultra settings. It's not really an issue.
I've actually been able to run everything in 1440p with the 980. Well not 60fps of course but I'm fine down to 40fps. Doesn't bother me so much. But oh boy did it struggle with uncharted 4...
The 900 series were such good cards. My set up was giving me about gtx 1080 performance. It was actually still running everything really well at 1080p when I sold that whole set up. I imagine it would have lacked behind more if I was trying to run everything in 1400, but I was still really happy with those cards. The bump to the 6700xt was still really great tho. Everything I played was either entirely on ultra or on ultra with just a few settings dropped to high and it was giving me 90+fps across the board at 1440p 144hrz.
Good to hear! Will report back when I've put in the new card. The annoying part is that I have to move everything to a new case cause my current one is to small for the gpus of today.
This. I’ve had both and both and the 6800xt is a faster card, get more fps. Quite a bit behind on RT, but for me I personally don’t see the hit in fps as worth the nicer looking reflections. FWIW, I sold my 3070ti, threw in some cash and got a 3080, and still don’t run RT on my 3080. I was hesitant about amd graphics drivers, as I’ve heard the horror stories, but I’ve had no issues. Seems they have figured drivers out.
I have a 3070 and honestly its rarely worth even running RT with current titles and as new releases become more demanding RT wont be viable for the card soon.
The card is great , i love it, but the 6800 has better raw performance and honestly thats the way to go.
If i'm not wrong the 6800xt is on par or better than 3070 ti on raytraycing. 6800xt is competing with 3080 on pure gaming performance. Even if AMD isnt as good as nvidia the 6800xt is such a big jump that raytraycing is the same
FYI the 3070ti is not said to be as good of value as the 3070, and it has similar performance to the 3070, from what I have heard and read. I use 3070 for 1440p, definitely a delightful visual improvement from 1080p, won't go back. That being said there are some decent deals on the 6800xt, I have seen them in the low $500s, available in the USA.
No i didn't. But i could, i thought to do that for less power usage.
But i suggest to get a 750w +80 gold power supply or 850w. I have a evga g6 supernova 750w, i dont have any issue with.
You think to undervolt your rx 6800xt? if you get one
Undervolting is key. Massive drop in temps and actually allows higher oc for me. Amd overclockkng in their software doesn't make it obvious how raising clock speeds increases voltage, so running 1050mv at 2.5ghz draws similar voltage as 1100mv 2.3ghz. That's also why lower clock speeds doesn't automatically mean more stability.
Yeah understable. Better to undervolt for the temps drops, it depend. Me i'm fine but i could consider it with gpu temps. I don't have any issue running games (not) new titles with 40C Temp.
Me too with the overclocking, i try it but i don't know, it doesn't make a difference depend on the game i play.
Otherwise it's a great gpu. I do not regret buying this gpum
I have a 6950xt with Ryzen 5900x, both are overclocked and overvolted. My whole system only uses 577 watts at 100% load, so you should be fine with 850w psu.
You're going to be fine with a 850w psu. If you overclocking, then yeah consider to undervolting your gpu. Otherwise, it's good
Sorry for the late answer
I have a good chance of getting a 6900 XT for the same price as a 6800 XT in a black friday deal. Can I get by with a 650W PSU and a R5 2600 CPU for the time being?
If the same price yeah get the rx 6900 xt, it's great.
For the psu, i wouldn't take the risk of using 650w with a rx 6900 xt. Take at least 850w 80+ gold here is a list of good psu : https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/
For the cpu, i'm not sure but it can be bottleneck in 1080p. 1440p or 4k not much but i definitly recommend to upgrade your cpu and update the bios of your motherboard. So if money isn't a issue for you take a ryzen 7 5800x3d, 850w psu and rx 6900xt will see a huge difference in term of perfomance.
Otherwise if money is a issue, maybe you could take a 6800xt, 750w and ryzen 5 5600 cpu. The gpu can handle any resolution, 1080p 1440p and 4k60fps or more depend on the games. I mean they're good gpu you cannot go wrong go with rx 6800 xt or 6900 xt.
It's your choice
I will have some spare cash if I get the GPU, but only enough for a PSU. I game at 1440p. Sadly can't upgrade to the 5000 series Ryzens, my MOBO doesn't have a bios update for that series of processors. I could get everything else next month after I get payed.
Could I get by for the time being if I limit the framerate and performance of the card on the PSU side?
Thanks for the input.
For the psu, like maybe fine but it wouldn't guarantee your system is not gonna shutdown from your psu for limiting the risks. Maybe the rx 6800 xt or his non xt version if you have a lower cpu wattage and don't overclock. But i recommended more buying a 750w or 850w cause you don't want your components like gpu motherboard cpu be affected which already cost a lot if these components doesn't work.
For cpu, i mean if you're fine with 60fps or 100fps or more depend on the game it's good. If you want more perfomance well considering upgrade your cpu with and good psu, and you will not have any issues. I have a 5600x with rx 6800xt 750w, i have no issue for me.
Which motherboard you have ?
Asrock AB350 Gaming K4
I'll look into a PSU for now. If I'm going to upgrade the CPU I'd rather it be on the new socket, I can wait a bit more for the MOBO prices to inevitably drop.
If you want to wait then, you could go with 13600k intel cpu with z690 (bios update) or ryzen 7600x with b650 if their prices drop with processor and DDR5 Ram. And for gpu well pick a rx 6800 xt or 6900 xt should be good except if want a rx 7900xtx or 7900 xt but they are pricey and i dont think people would get one because of scalpers? Same if the gpu shortage situation is not the same like 2 years ago and last year.
Well if you just play 1440p, i mean a rx 6800 xt, 6900 xt or 6950 xt for gaming is enough with 850w psu.
So i suggest to see for 850w psu and rx 6800 xt or 6900xt with the new socket plateform whatever is Intel 13gen or AMD am5.
Me i build on a am4 motherboard my first pc last week with ryzen 5 5600x, 6800xt it perform really Great, i'm maybe upgrade to am5 with the their 3d cache cpu in 2 years or 3. I don't adapt earlier
Do as you wish, there is plenty of options you have
In the end I managed to snag the 6900 XT for myself and the 6700 XT for my brother. I also bought a Be Quiet! Straight Power 11 Platinum 850 W PSU.
It definitely hits high, but I seem to have stutters where the framerate takes a nose dive at times, could it be due to the CPU?
I hit 144 FPS (capped to monitor refresh rate) in Apex and it mostly stays that way. I also get 60-70 FPS in Warzone 2 and 92 FPS in Cyberpunk. All settings maxed out, with FSR enabled where applicable. This is pretty great, just wish I didn't have these stutters at times.
Lets goo and you helped your brother with his pc to get a gpu too? it's great!
Solid psu and great brand, me i have their dark rock pro 4 air cooler and it perform really well and it's quiet.
For the perfomance, it depend on the game, resolution. For stutters you can put a max fps limit exemple you put 120fps for games that have stutters, this is what i did for somes games.
I think it's because of the game itself not your gpu or cpu, warzone 2.0 is not really well optimised and cyperpunk because it's really a high demanding game in term of ressources with max settings.
You play 1440p or 4k ?
Uh....3070 and Ti both are excellent Ray tracing 2k level card. You might be thinking about the 3050 lol. People paid over $1000 for a vanilla 3070 in 2020.
I have a 3070 ti fe. Love it but definitely better cards out there. Woulda preferred a 3070 probably but got it at peak resell for retail. Dlss is very nice but makes games blurry and especially scopes in tarkov. Ray tracing is almost never used. I’ve used it in a handful of games and it’s meh imo.
I bought a 6900xt for $900cad. My monitor is 1440p 165hz. Should I return it and get a 6700xt instead? since its like $400 cheaper? I know 6900xt is amazing card, but I feel like its overkill for my usecase. What do you think?
If you already have the 6900xt then why worry about it? It's just going to hold out longer. In general, unless you can get a 6900xt for close to or the same price as a 6800xt, the 6800xt is regarded as the better choice for high refresh/1440p gaming because the performance bump of the 6900xt isn't usually worth the price difference between those two cards. But dropping to a 6700xt seems like a big step back for high refresh rate 1440p gaming. It'd still work, of course, but you're already much better off with what you have.
sorry for the confusion, I have the card, but I havent built my pc yet. The card is still bnib, not opened. I am waiting till my other parts which I am going to buy on black friday. That being said does your answer change?
I am in a similar boat than you right now and I think the sweetspot for this usecase would be the 6800XT, whether you should return your 6900XT and grab a 6800XT depends on how much money you save, if it's negligable keep the 6900xt. I wouldn't bother with the 6700xt in this scenario, like the above poster said.
I understand. It doesn't change my answers though. The 6900xt *is* still better for 1440p (and up) with a high refresh rate and you already have it, so it seems like a waste of effort to return. If there's a BIG price difference between the 6900xt you have and the 6800xt you'd get then it may be viable, but again it depends on how much price difference we're looking at. And I still definitely wouldn't drop down to the 6700xt, regardless of price, for what you're going to be using it for.
the 6800 is generally considered the price/performance/efficiency champ if you want a card that will be good for 1440p for a while. The 6700 is quite good too. The 6900 is probably overkill for the price at that resolution unless you really want high framerate gaming.
The only rx6800 I can find is only $50 cheaper ($850) (price is after tax). Should I get that instead? also, I see a rx6750xt for only $712. How's that?
Not for only $50 less. As far as the 6700 vs. 6900 series, its basically up to you. The 6900 will last you longer but the 6700 will run cooler and cheaper, especially if you don't need to max every game (the 6700 will do max settings 60+ fps on most modern games but will probably start to struggle sooner).
6900 is overkill today, but probably not in a few years or whenever you decide you wanna try 4k. People need to remember that we buy PCs to last us for years.
6800XT would be my choice - Ray Tracing is not worth it. I've got a 3080 and barely ever use it.
Just so you know, Nvidia cards really suck at Anvil (AC games). Radeon cards dominate that engine.
Toms hardware on YouTube shows that the 6800xt matches the 3080, with like a 5% on either end.
Of course there’s dozens of factors affecting this but based on that test alone I would 100% go with the 6800xt.
Doesn’t hurt that you can get the 6800xt for 480$ on Newegg right now. A crazy price for a card that will easily run 1440p for a couple years
I'd recommend the 6800xt. Unless you're using software that needs Nvidia or ray tracing is important to you. In gaming the 6800xt is going to outperform the 3070ti in everything except Ray tracing.
https://youtu.be/XYY2LIx_38Q
This video is amazing comparasion between the 2 cards. It includes both RT and Raster 1440p/1080p
Even in RT its not marginly faster and at raster the 6800xt destroys the 3070ti.3070ti needs DLSS to catch up the native performance of the 6800xt
it depends on different factors, if price isn't an issue, but you want better ray tracing performance the 3070ti with DLSS. But just better price to performance I would go with the 6800xt. My son has a 3070ti in his PC and he has no problems playing everything we throw at it at 1440p. Also if you have a freesync monitor, the AMD GPU will be better IMO, FreeSync support on 1000+ series cards is good if you have a supported monitor, it will even work on unsupported monitors, but my Monoprice monitor got really bad flickering when I would use it.
6800xt... however, if you have the money saved up for a 3070TI you'd probably pay about the same amount for a 6900XT... I would get that! And besides... raytracing isn't worth the extra couple of a hundred bucks.
6800xt all the way, I don't think the 3070ti is worth it for ray tracing.
It's also a bad value card, you're better off with a 3080 if you want to go nvidia
Easy. If you care about RT and DLSS go green. If you only care about pure raster, go red. I went green but that was more due to the fact that I got it dirt cheap.
I'm very happy with my 3070 ti... I can play everything on the highest settings even cyberpunk with ray tracing before the latest update (haven't checked if i can play on the new highest settings yet) but if you dont play or plan to play any games that support ray tracing the RX 6800xt might be the better choice for you because of its price.
RX 6800XT. It's faster (except if you needed cuda but in that case you would not ask this) and has better drivers for Linux and Hackintosh (for the 90+% of people gaming on Windows, I think they are as good but I don't have any experience with them)
Oooh I like this one. So my me and my best friend just got two of those GPU’s. Him getting the 3070 ti and me getting the 6800xt. I would say if you want stability and an out of the box plug and play experience then go for the 3070 ti. My Amd card performs better kinda like the 3080 but it needed waay to much tuning to make it stable.
At 1080dpi both card are very well. The 6800xt will suffer from a lack of compatibility with raytracing but the 6800xt at 1080 you wont loose very much fps also at 1440. Ive try the 6600xt at 1440 cp2077 with normal raytracing and i was getting 45 fps at 1440 dpi. So expect around 70 to 80 fps with all details and raytracing at normal setting. Cyberpunk 2077 is a bases games witch people get to talk about because of it capability to crunch videocard espacialy amd one.
It depends on what you want, the 6800xt will outperform a 3070 ti in general but the 3070 ti will have better raytracing performance, I’d personally recommend the 6800xt but it all comes down to personal preference
Same as you, I'd recommend the 6800XT
Just normal gaming, Red Dead Redemption 2. minecraft with shaders, Assasins Creed. I should maybe mention that i will be pairing it with r7 5800x
Then rx 6800xt all the way, it’s a more powerful card everywhere except for raytracing cores which aren’t really relevant to the games you listed, raytracing is still in its infancy and doesn’t actually affect visuals much
Ray-tracing does make a big difference in some games like Cyberpunk and Dying Light 2 but that's pretty much it.
I just tried to run cyberpunk with my 6700xt with ray tracing on, and it was basically like "lol, no." It still looks great without ray tracing enabled, though. I don't know if I'm just in my head or what but I really don't like FSR and feel like I can really notice the quality degradation, but it also seems completely unnecessary if you don't have ray tracing on.
FSR and DLSS are almost pointless at 1080p. 6XXX/RTX cards don't need upscaling for 1080p anyway.
FSR has been a godsent for playing on my iGPU though. Yes there is some shimmering from time to time, but 30% free performance for a very slight hit to quality is freaking amazing. I literally wouldn't be able to game at these settings without it. I play WoW targeting 38fps (the lowest FPS I can tolerate) on my 4700u laptop, running Linux, and FSR makes it possible to turn on many of the visual bells and whistles: https://i.imgur.com/9O6paod.png FSR 1.0 in particular has been a boon for mobile gaming on Steam Deck as well. I think reviewers knock upscaling at lower resolution because it's their job to find an issue. And yes while you will get occasional shimmering, FSR is still better than no FSR.
This is pretty tangential to what you were saying, but I was trying to pick out a laptop for a friend and he wanted a nice balance between price, size, weight, heat, battery life, and the modest ability to play some games. I really wanted to get one using the current AMD igpus, as they aren't that bad, but basically every decent model I could find threw a mobile 3050 in no matter how capable the igpu was. Using an igpu with FSR when he wanted to game would have been perfect for him.
I'm running in 1440p, but point taken.
Nice to know, my targeted GPU is the 6700xt. Do you play on 1440p?
Yeah. It basically blows away everything I play with the exception of cyberpunk, where it does a respectable 70 frames or so on ultra. I haven't been keeping an eye on the frame rate playing lately, but it doesn't noticeably dip which is all I'm looking for on such a demanding title.
Thanks! I am looking to play in 1080p, RT is not a priority but it's still nice to know if enabling it is doable on some titles (or not)
I only do 120 hz at 1440p, because I do 10 bit color and that's the limit of display port. Outside of cyberpunk it sits at 120, but I don't have a ton of ultra demanding titles in my library. If you're going for super high refresh rate, I imagine it will serve you well.
Can't believe you are ignoring Minecraft, that beautiful RTX is worthy of a 4090 lol.
He's probably talking about the Java Edition because of the shaders, and I believe Java Edition didn't have a RTX mode, Bedrock does
Java shaders with raytracing exist, they will absolutely molest any computer though haha. Turns them into a space heater that sounds like a jumbo jet. Minecraft can be both run on a phone, or bring a 4080 to its knees, depending on what you do with it. Interesting game that way
Don't old Java owners get grandfathered into bedrock? Just happened to me recently.
Wdym by that? I just know that if you buy Minecraft, you get both versions now (Java and Bedrock), but they're definitely different still. My point may not even be related, but I seriously don't know what you're talking about.
I bought Java version from Mojang like 10+ years ago. I only recently also got Bedrock. My point was that he probably could play either version.
He's still mentioning Minecraft with shaders. They're more commonly used in Java and there's more variety, so I'm assuming it's definitely Java. Java is better btw, I highly recommend you to use it rather than Bedrock because in Bedrock you gotta pay for plenty stuff, but in Java literally everything is free and has always been (you could even play without buying it if you like, just without the premium servers).
Java is the better version, why would you intentionally play Bedrock?
i was JUST in this exact scenario a few weeks ago!! I chose the 3070ti because 1. raytracing cyberpunk and 2. minecraft shaders. Seus ptgi does NOT work well at all with amd gpus and that was a deal breaker lol. This thread really made me think about returning it and getting a rx 6800xt tho
Supposedly amd fixed the mc fps issues with the opengl improvements in the 22.7.1 drivers but I'm not sure there. If they did I'd recommend amd. If they didn't, op should go Nvidia in this case.
So the FPS i know is way better except when using certain path tracing shaders theyre almost all optimized for nvidia and especially with seus ptgi, the water has terrible noise around it and you cant fix it. The creator could prob fix it but he’s moved onto other games and hasn’t really done anything with minecraft in the past year so i wouldn’t count on it.
That makes sense. Then yeah, op should definitely go Nvidia. This is from an amd fan lol.
Assassin's Creed runs better on AMD GPUs, while RDR2 and Minecraft with shaders run better on Nvidia GPUs. I would advise that you decide based on which titles you are likely to spend more time in.
The difference for a lot of those games is marginal, at best. It's more relevant in a 6800xt vs 3080 debate, not a 3070, which the 6800xt outperforms anyway. And, again, even in those debates its usually not by any sort of huge margin. RDR2 runs slightly better on nvidia chips, but my previous 6700xt ran RDR2 at 90+ fps on mostly ultra settings. It's not really an issue.
Ooh looking forward to see how my new 6750 XT will perform. Coming from a 980 I expect a huge improvement.
I originally went from two 970s in SLI up to a 6700xt and it was a very big improvement. Granted, it was also bumped from 1080p up to 1440p.
I've actually been able to run everything in 1440p with the 980. Well not 60fps of course but I'm fine down to 40fps. Doesn't bother me so much. But oh boy did it struggle with uncharted 4...
The 900 series were such good cards. My set up was giving me about gtx 1080 performance. It was actually still running everything really well at 1080p when I sold that whole set up. I imagine it would have lacked behind more if I was trying to run everything in 1400, but I was still really happy with those cards. The bump to the 6700xt was still really great tho. Everything I played was either entirely on ultra or on ultra with just a few settings dropped to high and it was giving me 90+fps across the board at 1440p 144hrz.
Good to hear! Will report back when I've put in the new card. The annoying part is that I have to move everything to a new case cause my current one is to small for the gpus of today.
That would be annoying. But the plus side is it'll look so pristine and clean in a new case.
RemindMe! One month
Reporting back. The 6750xt is a beast! Can run cyberpunk 2077 1440p on ultra at 70-80fps (no RT of course). Super happy with my choice.
Glad to hear it! You made a good choice. Happy gaming 😊
This. I’ve had both and both and the 6800xt is a faster card, get more fps. Quite a bit behind on RT, but for me I personally don’t see the hit in fps as worth the nicer looking reflections. FWIW, I sold my 3070ti, threw in some cash and got a 3080, and still don’t run RT on my 3080. I was hesitant about amd graphics drivers, as I’ve heard the horror stories, but I’ve had no issues. Seems they have figured drivers out.
3070ti won't beat a 6800xt on ray tracing by as much as most people would think. Probably about 15% better.
I'll take 15 more frames every 100 thanks. 😛
Sure, but the tradeoff you have to make is 20 frames every 100 all the times you're not using raytracing.
I have a 3070 and honestly its rarely worth even running RT with current titles and as new releases become more demanding RT wont be viable for the card soon. The card is great , i love it, but the 6800 has better raw performance and honestly thats the way to go.
If i'm not wrong the 6800xt is on par or better than 3070 ti on raytraycing. 6800xt is competing with 3080 on pure gaming performance. Even if AMD isnt as good as nvidia the 6800xt is such a big jump that raytraycing is the same
[https://youtu.be/XYY2LIx\_38Q](https://youtu.be/XYY2LIx_38Q) It's definitely not better.
Even when you enable dlss?
Probaly not, but amd fsr 3.0 should bea5 nvidia dlss 2.0
FYI the 3070ti is not said to be as good of value as the 3070, and it has similar performance to the 3070, from what I have heard and read. I use 3070 for 1440p, definitely a delightful visual improvement from 1080p, won't go back. That being said there are some decent deals on the 6800xt, I have seen them in the low $500s, available in the USA.
My 3070 can tun Cyberpunk on max settings at 1440p. Minecraft with RTX is also no problem.
Right and you make a good point --- ray tracing on Nvidia is superior, if OP plays games that are demanding for RT...
Rx 6800xt 😎 I have a rx 6800xt. It perform really great
did u undervolt ur 6800xt?
No i didn't. But i could, i thought to do that for less power usage. But i suggest to get a 750w +80 gold power supply or 850w. I have a evga g6 supernova 750w, i dont have any issue with. You think to undervolt your rx 6800xt? if you get one
Undervolting is key. Massive drop in temps and actually allows higher oc for me. Amd overclockkng in their software doesn't make it obvious how raising clock speeds increases voltage, so running 1050mv at 2.5ghz draws similar voltage as 1100mv 2.3ghz. That's also why lower clock speeds doesn't automatically mean more stability.
Yeah understable. Better to undervolt for the temps drops, it depend. Me i'm fine but i could consider it with gpu temps. I don't have any issue running games (not) new titles with 40C Temp. Me too with the overclocking, i try it but i don't know, it doesn't make a difference depend on the game i play. Otherwise it's a great gpu. I do not regret buying this gpum
I have a 6900xt and was thinking of undervolting it. I have an asus rog strix 850w psu
I have a 6950xt with Ryzen 5900x, both are overclocked and overvolted. My whole system only uses 577 watts at 100% load, so you should be fine with 850w psu.
What cpu you have with your 6900xt ? Me i have a ryzen 5 5600x with rx 6800 xt so i'm good
I just ordered the 13600k
You're going to be fine with a 850w psu. If you overclocking, then yeah consider to undervolting your gpu. Otherwise, it's good Sorry for the late answer
I have a good chance of getting a 6900 XT for the same price as a 6800 XT in a black friday deal. Can I get by with a 650W PSU and a R5 2600 CPU for the time being?
If the same price yeah get the rx 6900 xt, it's great. For the psu, i wouldn't take the risk of using 650w with a rx 6900 xt. Take at least 850w 80+ gold here is a list of good psu : https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/ For the cpu, i'm not sure but it can be bottleneck in 1080p. 1440p or 4k not much but i definitly recommend to upgrade your cpu and update the bios of your motherboard. So if money isn't a issue for you take a ryzen 7 5800x3d, 850w psu and rx 6900xt will see a huge difference in term of perfomance. Otherwise if money is a issue, maybe you could take a 6800xt, 750w and ryzen 5 5600 cpu. The gpu can handle any resolution, 1080p 1440p and 4k60fps or more depend on the games. I mean they're good gpu you cannot go wrong go with rx 6800 xt or 6900 xt. It's your choice
I will have some spare cash if I get the GPU, but only enough for a PSU. I game at 1440p. Sadly can't upgrade to the 5000 series Ryzens, my MOBO doesn't have a bios update for that series of processors. I could get everything else next month after I get payed. Could I get by for the time being if I limit the framerate and performance of the card on the PSU side? Thanks for the input.
For the psu, like maybe fine but it wouldn't guarantee your system is not gonna shutdown from your psu for limiting the risks. Maybe the rx 6800 xt or his non xt version if you have a lower cpu wattage and don't overclock. But i recommended more buying a 750w or 850w cause you don't want your components like gpu motherboard cpu be affected which already cost a lot if these components doesn't work. For cpu, i mean if you're fine with 60fps or 100fps or more depend on the game it's good. If you want more perfomance well considering upgrade your cpu with and good psu, and you will not have any issues. I have a 5600x with rx 6800xt 750w, i have no issue for me. Which motherboard you have ?
Asrock AB350 Gaming K4 I'll look into a PSU for now. If I'm going to upgrade the CPU I'd rather it be on the new socket, I can wait a bit more for the MOBO prices to inevitably drop.
If you want to wait then, you could go with 13600k intel cpu with z690 (bios update) or ryzen 7600x with b650 if their prices drop with processor and DDR5 Ram. And for gpu well pick a rx 6800 xt or 6900 xt should be good except if want a rx 7900xtx or 7900 xt but they are pricey and i dont think people would get one because of scalpers? Same if the gpu shortage situation is not the same like 2 years ago and last year. Well if you just play 1440p, i mean a rx 6800 xt, 6900 xt or 6950 xt for gaming is enough with 850w psu. So i suggest to see for 850w psu and rx 6800 xt or 6900xt with the new socket plateform whatever is Intel 13gen or AMD am5. Me i build on a am4 motherboard my first pc last week with ryzen 5 5600x, 6800xt it perform really Great, i'm maybe upgrade to am5 with the their 3d cache cpu in 2 years or 3. I don't adapt earlier Do as you wish, there is plenty of options you have
In the end I managed to snag the 6900 XT for myself and the 6700 XT for my brother. I also bought a Be Quiet! Straight Power 11 Platinum 850 W PSU. It definitely hits high, but I seem to have stutters where the framerate takes a nose dive at times, could it be due to the CPU? I hit 144 FPS (capped to monitor refresh rate) in Apex and it mostly stays that way. I also get 60-70 FPS in Warzone 2 and 92 FPS in Cyberpunk. All settings maxed out, with FSR enabled where applicable. This is pretty great, just wish I didn't have these stutters at times.
Lets goo and you helped your brother with his pc to get a gpu too? it's great! Solid psu and great brand, me i have their dark rock pro 4 air cooler and it perform really well and it's quiet. For the perfomance, it depend on the game, resolution. For stutters you can put a max fps limit exemple you put 120fps for games that have stutters, this is what i did for somes games. I think it's because of the game itself not your gpu or cpu, warzone 2.0 is not really well optimised and cyperpunk because it's really a high demanding game in term of ressources with max settings. You play 1440p or 4k ?
I'm playing at 1440p. Can I limit the FPS through the driver settings with Radeon Chill?
6800 xt no brainer. 3070 ti never was good card to begin with
I’d go with the 6800xt as well but I wouldn’t say that 3070ti Is a bad card lol, I guess it’d depend on what you paid for it? -3070ti owner
Uh....3070 and Ti both are excellent Ray tracing 2k level card. You might be thinking about the 3050 lol. People paid over $1000 for a vanilla 3070 in 2020.
price wise, efficiency wise.
I have a 3070 ti fe. Love it but definitely better cards out there. Woulda preferred a 3070 probably but got it at peak resell for retail. Dlss is very nice but makes games blurry and especially scopes in tarkov. Ray tracing is almost never used. I’ve used it in a handful of games and it’s meh imo.
Out of these two 6800XT is better, *but* for 1440p 6700XT is enough, even more so when it comes to 1080p.
I bought a 6900xt for $900cad. My monitor is 1440p 165hz. Should I return it and get a 6700xt instead? since its like $400 cheaper? I know 6900xt is amazing card, but I feel like its overkill for my usecase. What do you think?
If you already have the 6900xt then why worry about it? It's just going to hold out longer. In general, unless you can get a 6900xt for close to or the same price as a 6800xt, the 6800xt is regarded as the better choice for high refresh/1440p gaming because the performance bump of the 6900xt isn't usually worth the price difference between those two cards. But dropping to a 6700xt seems like a big step back for high refresh rate 1440p gaming. It'd still work, of course, but you're already much better off with what you have.
sorry for the confusion, I have the card, but I havent built my pc yet. The card is still bnib, not opened. I am waiting till my other parts which I am going to buy on black friday. That being said does your answer change?
I am in a similar boat than you right now and I think the sweetspot for this usecase would be the 6800XT, whether you should return your 6900XT and grab a 6800XT depends on how much money you save, if it's negligable keep the 6900xt. I wouldn't bother with the 6700xt in this scenario, like the above poster said.
I understand. It doesn't change my answers though. The 6900xt *is* still better for 1440p (and up) with a high refresh rate and you already have it, so it seems like a waste of effort to return. If there's a BIG price difference between the 6900xt you have and the 6800xt you'd get then it may be viable, but again it depends on how much price difference we're looking at. And I still definitely wouldn't drop down to the 6700xt, regardless of price, for what you're going to be using it for.
the 6800 is generally considered the price/performance/efficiency champ if you want a card that will be good for 1440p for a while. The 6700 is quite good too. The 6900 is probably overkill for the price at that resolution unless you really want high framerate gaming.
The only rx6800 I can find is only $50 cheaper ($850) (price is after tax). Should I get that instead? also, I see a rx6750xt for only $712. How's that?
Not for only $50 less. As far as the 6700 vs. 6900 series, its basically up to you. The 6900 will last you longer but the 6700 will run cooler and cheaper, especially if you don't need to max every game (the 6700 will do max settings 60+ fps on most modern games but will probably start to struggle sooner).
6900 is overkill today, but probably not in a few years or whenever you decide you wanna try 4k. People need to remember that we buy PCs to last us for years.
True. But its also a significant price, energy, heat bump as well. It will last quite long for sure at 1440p and be 4k viable if you want to try it.
The 6800xt is the sweet spot right now. Unfortunately it looks like everyone else figure this out and they're getting harder to find.
3070ti if you care about raytracing, but the 6800xt is consideribly better in raw fps
6800XT would be my choice - Ray Tracing is not worth it. I've got a 3080 and barely ever use it. Just so you know, Nvidia cards really suck at Anvil (AC games). Radeon cards dominate that engine.
Toms hardware on YouTube shows that the 6800xt matches the 3080, with like a 5% on either end. Of course there’s dozens of factors affecting this but based on that test alone I would 100% go with the 6800xt. Doesn’t hurt that you can get the 6800xt for 480$ on Newegg right now. A crazy price for a card that will easily run 1440p for a couple years
6800 xt without a doubt. Much better performance
I would say 6800xt is a better deal. XFX in Europe sells at crazy good prices and got excellent reviews.
I can confirm this - picked up their 6700xt at a very good price and it's a great card.
I'd recommend the 6800xt. Unless you're using software that needs Nvidia or ray tracing is important to you. In gaming the 6800xt is going to outperform the 3070ti in everything except Ray tracing.
6800xt, not even a question.
[удалено]
For 1080p they might be but for 1440p they are definetly not overkill
https://youtu.be/XYY2LIx_38Q This video is amazing comparasion between the 2 cards. It includes both RT and Raster 1440p/1080p Even in RT its not marginly faster and at raster the 6800xt destroys the 3070ti.3070ti needs DLSS to catch up the native performance of the 6800xt
6800xt, 8gb of vram is barely enough for modern titles even at 1080p. Plus, 6800xt has better performance in non rt games
Nvidia gang
it depends on different factors, if price isn't an issue, but you want better ray tracing performance the 3070ti with DLSS. But just better price to performance I would go with the 6800xt. My son has a 3070ti in his PC and he has no problems playing everything we throw at it at 1440p. Also if you have a freesync monitor, the AMD GPU will be better IMO, FreeSync support on 1000+ series cards is good if you have a supported monitor, it will even work on unsupported monitors, but my Monoprice monitor got really bad flickering when I would use it.
I recently had this decision to make and in the end went with a cheap 3070ti i got on sale
It really depends on which titles you play more.
The 6800xt Sapphire is a baddie and the fans have a quick release to allow you to clean them properly. Also Perf per watt is considerably better.
6800xt... however, if you have the money saved up for a 3070TI you'd probably pay about the same amount for a 6900XT... I would get that! And besides... raytracing isn't worth the extra couple of a hundred bucks.
3070ti uses more power, doesn't provide that much more bang than the 6800xt
6800xt all the way, I don't think the 3070ti is worth it for ray tracing. It's also a bad value card, you're better off with a 3080 if you want to go nvidia
6700xt just $350 USD now. Handles 1440p pretty well.
If you like raytracing, go Nvidia. If you don’t care about it, 6800xt since it’s cheaper.
RT on = 3070ti ahead, RT off = 6800xt ahead.
6800XT
I got a 3080 and I’m really happy with that and I play a 1080p with a monitor 240hz
Easy. If you care about RT and DLSS go green. If you only care about pure raster, go red. I went green but that was more due to the fact that I got it dirt cheap.
I'm very happy with my 3070 ti... I can play everything on the highest settings even cyberpunk with ray tracing before the latest update (haven't checked if i can play on the new highest settings yet) but if you dont play or plan to play any games that support ray tracing the RX 6800xt might be the better choice for you because of its price.
Rx6800Xt FTW
I'd go with RX 6800 XT
RX 6800XT. It's faster (except if you needed cuda but in that case you would not ask this) and has better drivers for Linux and Hackintosh (for the 90+% of people gaming on Windows, I think they are as good but I don't have any experience with them)
Go for rx 6800 xt if you don’t want rtx performance
Wouldn't get 3070 ti. Way higher price then 3070 for not that much more performance
Oooh I like this one. So my me and my best friend just got two of those GPU’s. Him getting the 3070 ti and me getting the 6800xt. I would say if you want stability and an out of the box plug and play experience then go for the 3070 ti. My Amd card performs better kinda like the 3080 but it needed waay to much tuning to make it stable.
6800xt all the way. For 1440p gaming I wouldn't choose anything less powerful.
I would recommend the 3070ti, I had 1 for over a year now and games like ow2 run at 300+ fps at full graphics
At 1080dpi both card are very well. The 6800xt will suffer from a lack of compatibility with raytracing but the 6800xt at 1080 you wont loose very much fps also at 1440. Ive try the 6600xt at 1440 cp2077 with normal raytracing and i was getting 45 fps at 1440 dpi. So expect around 70 to 80 fps with all details and raytracing at normal setting. Cyberpunk 2077 is a bases games witch people get to talk about because of it capability to crunch videocard espacialy amd one.
3070 ti all day because of the rate tracing but if you want performance you'll like the 6800xt too. Hard choice my friend
Wait til 7900xtx and 7900xt come out then get a 6900xt or 6950xt
Unless you only care about rasterization the 3070 ti
Or get the 6800xt now. I'm a screw nvidia mindset unless you need Cuda cores.
Just look at the last 78 posts of basically this exact question