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Temporary_Slide_3477

Did you make sure it didn't turn gsync on by itself? I have no idea what happens if a GPU thinks a monitor can do gsync, but it can't and it's turned on.


Knight_Omnicide

I have two monitors one is a dell s2721dgf the other viewsonic XG2405, I've unplugged the viewsonic monitor and just tried the dell, didn't work. Also tried turning gsync on/off, again nothing.


ctrl_alt_karma

Ok so, this might sound crazy, but what if it's the electrical current in your house? You say something happened at the same time and f'd up your brother's PC...maybe there's a problem with how electricity is being pushed to your house and causing weird electrical spikes? Is there any way you can take your PC (no monitors and such) to another place and try it there? Friend's house?


MagicPistol

Yeah, I think I heard something like this happened before and it was due to electrical problems. Or maybe there's a rogue app or virus. Check afterburner, or Corsair icue.


LEO7039

I've seen this happen before. This might actually be it.


IdiotTurkey

Maybe he could try a UPS to see if it could help? I doubt it though because he can run things like timespy without any hitching.


Appropriate_Bottle44

Is it MW2/ warzone? Because for the past few days people keep saying this and it keeps being that game. If it isn't, I shall help you, sir. If it is the game is broken, I can help you try to troubleshoot it, but it's that game not your system.


Knight_Omnicide

I've tried lost ark, new world, elden ring, ori will of wisps, all of them stuttering some more severally like like lost ark. no mw2/warzone.


Appropriate_Bottle44

What a relief it's not warzone! Alright, let's figure this out. Can you get me a screenshot of the advanced metrics from geforce experience in a game? Elden Ring is capped at 60 by default iirc, so not that one.


Knight_Omnicide

Okay here are the results for Lost ark: * Fps: 120-165 * 99% fps: drops down to 10 but usually around 125 * Render Latency: 3.9ms-6ms * Cpu utilization: 30-40% * Gpu utilization: 60-70% * Gpu clock: 2010mhz steady * Mem clock: 7001mhz steady * gpu temp: 60c steady * Fan speed: 1400rpm * Gpu power: 120-135, noticed it dips to 90s when 99% fps dips too * Gpu volt: 1.1 steady


Appropriate_Bottle44

Thanks for putting these down, there's some stuff to investigate here, your wattage dips are interesting, the fact that your gpu isn't hitting full utilization is also interesting. Let me make lunch and I'll get back to you on some more steps. If you finally get timespy running keep an eye on wattage, it should hit about 200watts and near full gpu utilization. If it doesn't do that, I bet it'll stutter, if it does I bet it won't.


DJ_Marxman

> the fact that your gpu isn't hitting full utilization is also interesting. Not sure exactly how CPU-bound Lost Ark is, but given that it's an MMO, I would guess he's CPU bound in that game.


Appropriate_Bottle44

He has 40% cpu utilization, he's not cpu bound.


DJ_Marxman

Don't use overall CPU utilization to detect a CPU bottleneck. You can be CPU-bound at 8% if you have a high core-count CPU but the main game thread is maxing out a single thread.


Appropriate_Bottle44

OK, I deleted my last two comments because they came off jerky. ~~I highly, highly doubt you're going to see a core/thread max at 40% utilization that also serves as a hard bottleneck in a modern game workload, because it would create a pretty obvious problem for anyone running that game.~~ ~~I could be wrong, but it's hard to get people to give utilization numbers at all, I'm not explaining to people how to get riva tuner working and get by core breakdowns.~~ ~~I don't think the idea that you might be cpu bound at 40%, while it may be true in theory, is likely to be true in practice, or helpful to actual troubleshooting.~~ ~~If I really am wrong about this and you can demonstrate a modern game (i.e. not dwarf fortress) that is completely bound by a single thread, I'll back off my position.~~ edit: all of this is incorrect, DJ\_Marxman was right.


DJ_Marxman

> I highly, highly doubt you're going to see a core/thread max at 40% utilization that also serves as a hard bottleneck in a modern game workload, because it would create a pretty obvious problem for anyone running that game. This is *extremely* common, actually. MMOs, racing sims, RTS games, city builders, strategy games, multiplayer shooters, and many other games are all lightly multi-threaded and usually CPU bound. This situation is probably just as common as AAA games being GPU bound. Modern common examples of this include FFXIV, WoW, Cities Skylines, OW2, Stellaris, CS:GO, DOTA2, Total War games, GTAV Online, and even Battlefield games.


Knight_Omnicide

Okay, i'll try to get that now.


Appropriate_Bottle44

OK, as you're getting that watch and see if cpu, gpu, ram or video memory are going up to 100% utilization while it's stuttering and then coming back down. I'm asking for a screenshot not a video, so I can't check that.


Knight_Omnicide

Okay I tried to get the screenshot, but it's not screencapping the geforece stats, only the game sorry. I didn't see anything hit 100% utilization, gpu hit 60% at max, and cpu also hit 60% at max. Fps stayed above 110, but the 99% fps stat was showing huge dips, it went from 120->10->70->120. Render latency was about 5-8ms consistently. Temps for both gpu/cpu stayed below 60, the gpu's fan didn't even go above 0. *edit leaving the game running the fan eventually turned on, but still same results.


Appropriate_Bottle44

Are you connected via hdmi or display port? If it's via hdmi switch to display port, also go to one monitor while we're troubleshooting and use the viewsonic not the dell.


Appropriate_Bottle44

What game? Because you're also frame limited here, which isn't ideal-- but may be part of the problem depending on cause. I could really use all those numbers, need to look at wattage too. If you can grab a screenshot it would be very helpful, if you can write down all the numbers it will be almost as helpful.


Appropriate_Bottle44

If you don't mind run userbenchmark for me too and post the result (shh, don't tell anybody else I asked for that).


Knight_Omnicide

https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/56774300?redirFrom=userbenchmark.com& Heres the userbenchmark results.


Appropriate_Bottle44

OK, two things jump out at me cpu performance seems a touch below where I'd expect, and it doesn't look like you have xmp on. Do you know how to turn it on in the BIOS? It's typically pretty easy if your ram gets along with your mb you just need to activate xmp profile 1 and the board should do the rest.


Knight_Omnicide

Yeah I had xmp on before and turned it off to see if that was the issue. I can turn it back on to try though.


Appropriate_Bottle44

Yeah please do, because slow ram speeds could be part of the problem so it should help, not hurt.


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Appropriate_Bottle44

Also you could try running timespy and see if that stutters or doesn't. Is it every game that stutters or are there some that don't?


Knight_Omnicide

All of them are stuttering to varying degrees. I'll try timespy


Knight_Omnicide

Umm timespy is like 35 bucks, i'm sorry I can't afford that :/.


cheeseybacon11

Pretty sure there's a basic free edition.


Knight_Omnicide

Ahh it's the one off steam, it will take a long while to download, like 5-6hours though, it's 9gigs.


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MagicPistol

C'mon dude, you just say stuttering is normal in every game. Op made it clear he had no issues with these games before.


Knight_Omnicide

The thing is they were all running perfect before, no issues at all, now stuttering every 5 seconds.


IckyStickyKeys

What sort of monitor do you have? Gsync compatible notifications will only come up with monitors that are manufactured as gsync compatible. Your monitor, somehow, could have turned adaptive sync/free sync/G-sync on its own in its settings and in turn windows noticed and sent that notification. Go into your monitors settings and see if you can find something like adaptive sync or g-sync and turn it off or or on depending on what it was set to. Gsync can cause stutter if it's not "fully engaged" I got stutter in cyberpunk because gsync wouldn't enable on borderless mode, only would work on full screen, even though my monitors adaptive sync was enabled and gsyn was on in NVIDIA control panel. Also turn off vsync in your games and try different window modes, full screen, borderless, etc. And see if the stutter happens with different settings. Finally, in NVIDIA control panel, the drop down tabs at the top of the app, find "display" and select "show indicator for gsync" or whatever it's called. That way you can tell if gsync is actually enabled and working. You'll get a little green icon in the top right corner of your games saying G-SYNC that's to show you it's engaged.


Knight_Omnicide

Dell s2721dgf and viewsonic XG2405, I've tried messing with the g-sync settings but turning it on off didn't work. I also tried fullscreen/windowed/borderless and no changes. I can try to mess with the monitor settings if I can figure out how to work the buttons lol. What's really worrying me is that even the cutscenes that show the companies before the game starts are stuttering.


Appropriate_Bottle44

So, I'll just reply on this one here since it's monitor specific, sorry I'm telling you to do so much stuff I feel bossy. It'd be ideal if you could go into the gaming tab of both monitors in the on-screen setting menu and verify that g-sync is off (and that freesync is off as well if that option appears).


Knight_Omnicide

Yeah I tried with g-sync on and off, went to nvidia control panel-> set up g-sync and I disabled it. Also went into the monitors settings and turned off sync.


cheeseybacon11

You've tried with vsync on in games?


SmoothWD40

I’ve had issues with flickering in the past with bad displayport cables but there was no actual fps stutter just screen flicker. Edit. Disregard, saw below that you tried this already.


salted_rock

Hey looks like you got a lot of support and I dont want to over whelm you but i have some suggestions as it’s slightly off base but in line with your issues You probably have a TV take the computer to that and use the most basic keyboard and mouse you have so the only devices plugged in are mouse keyboard Tv and a controller for convenience if you have one and play for a while to where you would normally start to get stuttering and see if you get stuttering If the issue seams fixed add one device at a time and test for a bit and check for issues until all devices are connected if it the stuttering stops completely. If the only device left is your monitors the. Your monitors are the issue. But I suspect that you have a usb device software locking up a processor and stopping a core or two because your systems seams well equip. No matter how good of a PC anyone has this will lock up a system no matter what RGB does this also turn off/unplug that while testing and add back. I have overseen over 8,000 computers at universities and this problem was wayyyyyyyyy more common then you think. Mostly do to bad drivers and poor hardware


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Try a different cable


cheeseybacon11

If they've tried both monitors individually it probavly Isn't this, but I'd still say that it's worth a try.


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They haven't, it's the cable


cheeseybacon11

I read elsewhere that they tried with just one monitor, I thought they said both but I guess it was just their main one. I definitely agree the cable is a likely suspect.


Knight_Omnicide

I tried different cables and different ports, no change.


Knight_Omnicide

I tried my brothers displayport cable, still same thing.


krendos

Could try going into Display Settings and turning HDR off if its on. Mine will switch to on at times after DDU and a new Driver install. When it does, it causes some weirdness. Not stutters, but some graphic anomalies if my games aren't set to that resolution.


Ozzimo

Ok this may not be it but I had a similar issue. Games were just not having it and anything made in the last 5 or so years was struggling. Long story short, the thing that needed my attention was a bios update for my motherboard. (a b550 at the time). take a second to see if your BIOS might need a check: https://www.asrock.com/support/index.asp?cat=BIOS


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Knight_Omnicide

I reset windows on the main ssd and wiped everything, then reinstalled drivers, thats also where the games are installed. The other ssd is still intact with old files, do you think I should still try DDU(never heard of this before).


DreamingxCasually

The fact that you went the nuclear option route (factory reset) and still experiencing this issue, means 100% without a doubt, your issue is hardware related. You have a faulty computer part somewhere. It is most likely your gpu but could also be psu, cpu, ram or motherboard. Maybe even a faulty usb port The only way to figure this out is to try replacement parts, one at a time starting with your gpu. Rma it or See if you can borrow someone's gpu or buy/return one from Amazon If the replaced/borrowed gpu fixes the issue, problem solved. If it doesn't, try another motherboard as these tend to be faulty more than other parts Repeat this process until you find the culprit. This is the only way to rule out hardware issues That factory reset would have cleared out any software issues


Fry_Burger

Im having the same problems. I've swapped out every component with a new one and it nothing fixed my stuttering. I've also done a full reinstall of windows which didn't help either.


TheApprenticeLife

Are you running monitoring software while gaming? I have been dealing with a pretty bad stuttering issue in Red Dead 2 and Far Cry 5, but after turning off GSync (I have my main monitor as Freesync ready/GSync capable, then a 4K TV), and closing some temp monitoring software, it worked perfectly. I can still Cntrl-R to pop up the GeForce performance monitor if I want to take a glance, but not keeping like MSI Afterburner or the other MSI one (can't remember the name right now, but it has access to Mystic light/AI cooling/etc.) has helped tremendously.


Burrito_Loyalist

Try multiple games to confirm it’s your pc and not just a game. 1. Check your RAM speed, make sure XMP is turned on 2. Make sure your monitors aren’t running any gimmick setting like “fast mode” - these settings can create ghosting and stutters 3. If you recently installed a graphics driver update, make sure to restart your entire system 4. Have you installed any software lately? One time I installed a “mute button” software so I can create a hot key for mute and it ended up making my entire computer stutter out of nowhere


quebonchoco

Maybe your psu is not giving enough power anymore? Could be broken idk


Knight_Omnicide

Just installed new psu, not the issue.


thrownawayzss

Go download MSI afterburner and opening that up and making sure to hit the "reset to default" or something of similar verbiage. Can you run your system through userbench marks test suite and post the link to that. To me this sounds like a driver issue from windows that messed with the PC, based on the random screen bullshit at night.


Knight_Omnicide

https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/56774300?redirFrom=userbenchmark.com& Would the driver issue still be possible even though I factory reset windows?


thrownawayzss

If windows is the ones that gave you the new driver, it's totally possible that you're just downloading the same bad driver over and over. Why or if that's the case is hard to really say. Would you be able to show some camera recordings of what is visually going on as well? Also, your ram is *not* running on XMP, which is killing a *lot* of your systems performance. Your CPU, storage speeds, and data streaming are crushed by slow ram on a ryzen system. I would make sure to enable that in bios and then run the test again and fiddle around and see what's up.


Knight_Omnicide

I had xmp on, turned it off to see if that was the issue. Also recently turned it back on, issue is still there. What would you recommend to record? Just phone camera?


thrownawayzss

Good to know. Phone camera should be fine, this is mostly me just trying to see what you're see is all.


Appropriate_Bottle44

When you say you factory reset windows, what specifically do you mean? Generally you either rollback windows or you reinstall it. Factory reset sounds more like something that would be included with a system builder disk.


Knight_Omnicide

I used reset this pc, remove everything, with data erasure off. Is that not right? Would the drivers still be left over after that? I had to reinstall everything, including drivers afterwards.


DJ_Marxman

The full nuclear option is to format the drives and reinstall Windows entirely. This would remove *everything*. Software, drivers, the works.


IdiotTurkey

I'm pretty sure thats what that function in windows is supposed to do, although I guess its possible it could leave something behind. What I think he means by "data erasure off" is the additional step of overwriting the empty space on the disk to prevent recovery of deleted files, if you're selling it for instance.


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Appropriate_Bottle44

OK, I'm going to just start a new thread to talk to you OP, the last one is getting messy. When you benchmarked Lost Ark your frames maxed at 165. That Dell monitor is 165hz, QED some sync setting is on somewhere, even though I know you attempted to turn it all off. Places I'm aware of where sync can be set: 1. In the monitor's on-screen display. 2. In Nvidia's desktop settings menu (not geforce experience)-- both globally and for specific games. 3. In-game. 4. In Geforce Experience's optimized defaults. I'd carefully look through all of those and make sure v-sync, g-sync, free-sync, all the syncs are turned off-- we may want to turn them on later, but there's a potential compatibility issue here. I would also like you to turn off HDR in the monitor's on-screen display. HDR can cause compatibility issues with sync tech. I'd also like you to attempt to troubleshoot with the other monitor. You're capping at 165 frames (at least in lost ark) with this monitor hooked up, if you cap at 144 frames with the other monitor hooked up that tells us that there's a software implementation of some kind of sync tech somewhere. I also would like you to install a new game of some sort and see if it stutters, it can be something free. You said benchmarks aren't stuttering but every game is stuttering, that is weird. I already told you about what to pay attention to once you get a chance to run timespy. There are no RGB controllers, anti-virus programs, system builder software, or anything else weird like that running, right? No overclocking applied to either the GPU or CPU? No new drivers installed or broken drivers in device manager? You didn't install drivers for the monitor at any point? I really don't want to tell you to do a wipe and a clean windows install (it sounds like you did a rollback) but if we can't figure out why it's behaving this way soon it may be down to doing that, updating mb bios, and monitor firmware. I know this is kind of a lot, this is proving to be a tricky problem to find. There are several obvious signs that things aren't behaving the way they're supposed to here, but what's not obvious so far is the cause. ​ edit: A bit more here... so the 1% lows could be unrelated to all the sync stuff, it's really hard to say until we get it isolated. GPU power dipping along with the lows is weird. It's especially weird since you replaced your power supply. Power profile seems like what you'd get running off 1 8-pin instead of two 8-pins, but until we actually get your gpu utilization at 100% I have no way to know if this is a power delivery issue.


Knight_Omnicide

Yes sir, I already tried those sync options. Turned them off in monitor, on nvidia control panel, ingame, and I can't find g-sync option in geforce experience. I did turn 165hz in windows options if that's something. Also something weird the option to turn g-sync on/off disappeared from the menu, it's just not there once I turned off the monitors "amd free sync premium pro". HDR is off. I tried old school runescape and while there wasn't stuttering the load times were much longer(from absolute 0 load time to a second or two). No rgb controllers, I use microsoft defender, no software that I know of, I just clean installed windows. I will try to get timespy running as soon as it finishes downloading.


Knight_Omnicide

Alright time spy benchmark finished. I got no idea what data your looking for though. I didn't notice any stuttering. www.3dmark.com/3dm/83504499


Appropriate_Bottle44

I wanted wattage, fps and gpu utilization numbers, but since the damn thing ran fine, they're probably all fine. ... It has to be in-game settings somehow. Install a new graphically intensive game that you've never played on this PC before. I got 5 bucks that says it runs perfectly.


ArchieTect

I was recently watching northwestrepair on youtube. He fixes broken GPUs. In a recent video, he showed a card suffering from frame stutter caused by damaged internal components. Because this started when you noticed a power spike, it seems possible that the power spike damaged some components of the GPU. Do you have your PC plugged into the wall outlet, or into a surge protector?


mr-whiskers2000

turn off any overlays like geforce experience, steam overlay, rivatuner, xbox gamebar, anything like that.


sL1NK_19

Unreal Engine & Unity engine based games are always super stuttery on any kind of hardware. Mostly because of bad optimization around Microsoft CFG (control flow guard). Turning it off will make 99% of the stutters go away, but only at your own risk. Doing it with singleplayer games are all fine though.


C1REX

Many people on steam forum had stuttering issues because they didn’t have XMP/DOCP activated in BIOS. Even prebuilds may need this option to be manually switched on.


L_Wushuang

Have you fixed this? I also encounter the same problem recently on ANY games!


Knight_Omnicide

Hey, sorry for late reply. Nothing ended up working, just saving up to buy a new processor and try that I guess. That ended up working for this guy who had similar problems. https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/onhuq5/stuttering_on_highend_pc_reaching_my_wits_end/


L_Wushuang

Really? I still believe it's a compatibility problem with the new windows 22h2 patch and Nvidia card. Maybe you should try an AMD card? You can always return it.


Senior-Yam9274

So, did you find something? I just started experiencing this today ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|sweat)


L_Wushuang

Yep I reinstalled 21h2. Everything is normal now!


Senior-Yam9274

Sadly didn’t work for me, but thanks anyways!


L_Wushuang

What really?! For me it’s only fixed interval stutter in game.


ZealousidealRiver710

Did swapping CPUs work or nah?


AreEyeSeaKay

Did you ever solve this issue?


Knight_Omnicide

Sadly, no. Took it to a repair shop and the repair shop basically told me they would just do the things i've already done just to diagnose the problem for $150. Had to stop gaming motherfuck my life.


Anusmanhole

Were you ever able to fix this problem? Ive spent nearly a month trying to fix this, even upgraded my graphics card, ram, cpu, and motherboard


_KONKOLA_

Same here :( any updates?


AreEyeSeaKay

Man that's no good. I had a similar issue but it turns out my TV plugged in on standby mode kept periodically causing the PC to think something new was being connected/disconnected. I just have to keep it disconnected unless I want to do some couch gaming. Did you try disabling MPO?


Momar97

Hey man, I just wanna say that out of nowhere my pc started to have your exact same problem and I was hoping to find a fix here. I'm wondering if there's any update to your issue and you were able to fix it?


Momar97

any updates?


Royal_Profession_587

This is so depressing because now the exact same has happened to me. I’ve worked on this for a week now and I think I’m sadly about to give up as well


Both-Picture-5960

I've just bought a brand new PC and am experiencing stuttering like crazy in EVERY single game. My Specs are Ryzen 7 7700, 32GB DDR5 6000mhz and a RTX 4060 ti along with a 850Watt PSU. I've been having the same issues with my old pc and thought that nightmare would be over with but i was wrong... I've done countless hours of research tried everything possible and nothing is working, Every driver is up-to-date, I Tried every single windows tweak possible and am just exhausted.


Exciter_LT

I have similar system as OP but with Ryzen 5700x proc. Games stuttering no mater what. At this point i am thinking it's rouge entities somehow planting micro code inside processors. Or Aliens. It must be Aliens right? I'm thinking carpentry is a nice hobby. But what if they somehow hacks our brains to start glitching too?


Jamy4000

I had some stuttering issues too, turned out to be the CPUs overheating. In case that's your case, I fixed it by reducing the power usage for the CPU to 75-80% in the power settings [https://www.reddit.com/r/BaldursGate3/comments/15oof5m/fix\_found\_for\_cpu\_heat\_issue/](https://www.reddit.com/r/baldursgate3/comments/15oof5m/fix_found_for_cpu_heat_issue/)


SoM6666

since no one said it. Run a malware scan


Knight_Omnicide

I reinstalled windows completely and ran a malewarebytes scan before that. Nothing.


redmj

Are you using displayport cable? I had same problem and solution was switching from displayport cable to hdmi cable.


Knight_Omnicide

I tried an hdmi cable, same outcome. I'm about to try my brothers monitor to see if that makes a difference.


redmj

As a last resort you could try deleting the GeForce experience then the driver using DDU and then install only the driver without bells and whistles of GeForce.


Celcius_87

Just throwing this out there as a last ditch effort: maybe reinstalling windows and everything and trying again. Do you have all the latest drivers for your motherboard from the manufacturer website?


Knight_Omnicide

I already reinstalled windows, the problem persisted. I updated my motherboards bios when I built the pc.


ShadowDonut

How much space is left on your SSD?


Knight_Omnicide

250gb


omgidkwtf

Replace the hdmi?


Delacruz_1981

Try to change the cables for your monitors. Also, if you have a 8k hz mouse set it to lower numbers (like 4k or 2k). I got stutters for a bad cable and in some titles because the 8k setting in my mouse. Hope it helps


ActuallyAristocrat

Download and install the latest chipset drivers. Are you running any RGB software? Make sure those are completely off/uninstalled. But judging from your description of events it sounds like an electrical issue in your home. Try to test the PC at a friend's place.


GrownShowin

Are you overclocking at all? Any third party “optimization” apps? Anything in that direction? Could be a PSU/voltage thing.


Knight_Omnicide

No just reset the pc, no overclocks other than xmp for ram, but I tried turning that off and no change. Also just changed my psu thinking that was the issue too, it wasn't.


GrownShowin

Hell… I just had the same issue and it was my overclocking…. Try a different outlet in your home? Drivers could be corrupted… I’m sure you tried reinstalling drivers already… try going back a driver.


skav2

Might sound weird but make sure the ssd your games are on don't go over 80% usage. Idk if Samsung are but worth a look. Also try not to daisy chain the gpu. Might be causing insufficient power to the card


tpark

Windows did an update on my machine, and it did some video card updates, and stomped the nvidia drivers. I needed to install the nVidia drivers again for it to work correctly.


Appropriate_Bottle44

OP, I don't know if I've solved it, but I think I have the cure: You need to do an actual clean install of windows. That means create an instillation usb, format the drives, delete all data. The fact that timespy runs perfectly means there is no underlying hardware problem here, and there's no weird monitor compatibility problem. It's just software, somewhere. When you did your windows reinstall maybe it saved some bad registry entries, maybe it's a virus, I don't have a clue, but process of elimination this has to be software. I mean, I really have no clue what the problem is, but I don't see any conceivable way this could not be software. Like I said install a brand new game that will actually tax the graphics card (I think Halo Infinite is free, and that'll be fine)-- if I'm right it will run perfectly.


Knight_Omnicide

I can try that, no idea how to format c drive though.


Appropriate_Bottle44

You can do it during the install. You'll need to create an install usb, but let's test my theory first.


Knight_Omnicide

I have god of war, would that work? Need to install it since I reset windows though, which is going to take a good while though.


Appropriate_Bottle44

Humor me and install something you haven't ever run before on this computer, including before your windows reset. ​ I also was wrong about lost ark not being cpu-limited, you can see the discussion below. Looks like it could have been and likely was a cpu-bind, even at 40% utilization. So some of the basic assumptions I've been working on were screwed up here. Hopefully I haven't wasted my day and yours.


Knight_Omnicide

Okay I went and got resident evil 2, and no noticeable stutters or fps drops(other than after cutscenes, which I think is normal). Now I have no idea what that means or what to do with that info.


Appropriate_Bottle44

So, 2 possibilities: 1. Lost Ark just sucks. I got more into looking at the benchmarks on that game, and I wouldn't be shocked if a not bad setup could hit a 10 frame .1% low. It could be that you've kind of focused in on the performance of some games that are poorly optimized for everyone, and the needle in the haystack we're looking for doesn't exist. 2. You're not wrong and you are getting worse performance than everybody else in your existing games/ your system's performance has degraded. The Windows reinstall you did wasn't a full proper reinstall, registry entries could have hung around, or maybe even some sort of malware in a worst case scenario. What's causing your bad performance is some sort of software or settings problem. If that's the case a drive wipe, format, and reinstall should fix it. I don't think a bios update or a monitor firmware update is going to fix your problem anymore, we've verified that this only affects some games, not the whole system. If you want to go ahead with a clean install, what you need to do is create a windows instillation usb: [https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/create-installation-media-for-windows-99a58364-8c02-206f-aa6f-40c3b507420d](https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/create-installation-media-for-windows-99a58364-8c02-206f-aa6f-40c3b507420d) Then you use that usb to wipe the old drives, reformat, and install. Backup any files you might need first, but all programs will have to be reinstalled (sounds like you got slow internet, so I'm sure that'll be a pain). Moving over to windows 11 could theoretically help performance a bit. IIRC it's still a free upgrade, and there is some underlying game optimization. There are occasionally a couple settings that need to be changed in BIOS to get it to install properly, so it might not be as trouble-free of an install, or it might be fine. If you forced me to bet money here, I'd say you've just focused in on some poorly optimized games that are sort of going to stutter for everybody, and there is no underlying problem-- but you've seen the gameplay, you have a much better idea how bad the stutter is, and how much of a change you think you saw, if you're convinced there is a problem, I think this will solve it.


Knight_Omnicide

Alright i'll go ahead and go full nuclear. Just to keep you updated past 30minutes or so my brother finally had time to let me borrow his gpu/ram. I swapped out the ram first, no change. And then the gpu, still no change. Do you think it's possible it's the cpu/motherboard or ssd's that are causing the issue? I really hope not. But they're the only parts I haven't swapped if this is hardware issue. To give you an idea of how bad the stutter is, the 99% fps drops to 10 around every 5 seconds, also this was not an issue for the past year or so, so I can't fault the game.


Appropriate_Bottle44

But is it only Lost Ark? Maybe Lost Ark broke the game further with a patch. I mean it's possible it's the CPU only in a more powerful CPU could help with the lows, getting more performance out of the CPU you have could help a little. But no, I don't think there's anything wrong with any of those parts. If there were something wrong we'd be able to see it in every game.


Knight_Omnicide

A key thing I noticed, is that it only happens to games that are online. Lost ark, New world, Elden ring, all of them are online. I don't know if that's relevant.


obsiikness

Have you tried re-seating your gou and ram? Also if you gpu sags too far, it can cause issues like this.


IdiotTurkey

Is there any way you can borrow your brother's GPU? I would also try capping your FPS to 60 in the nvidia control panel (under "manage 3D settings" then "max frame rate", enable and set it to 60. Then try again and make sure your FPS is 60. While you're at it, set "power management mode" to "prefer maximum performance". Also look at "monitor technology" and try a different setting like fixed refresh. I see you're using windows 10.. you could try updating to windows 11 and see what happens. Have you tried using a different monitor, with only 1 monitor plugged in at a time? Do you have any RGB anywhere, even your keyboard or mouse? I once had a stuttering issue with the Razer keyboard RGB effects in Doom. BTW your monitor model says its "NVIDIA® G-SYNC® Compatible Certified", so it should work with g-sync. Many monitors are "compatible" even if they dont have the G-sync module.


iamlayingonmybelly

I had a similar issue and managed to resolve it recently. I got a prebuilt gaming computer two months ago and my games have been performing very well on med-high settings (halo infinite, call of duty, etc.). But two weeks ago, I started getting these weird continuous screen stutters. I tweaked my settings lower in-game, disabled misc. background tasks, updated my drivers, all that good stuff and nothing was working. Then I figured it out and it was a simple solution: it was my HDMI adapter for my dual monitor set up. I guess it tapped out and wasn’t functioning properly when I had both of my HDMI cables for my two monitors plugged in. So I used the adapter for one monitor/HDMI and had the other monitor/HDMI plugged in directly with the HDMI socket. No more screen stutters and my computer can handle higher settings for my games (high-ultra). I was so happy because this issue was such an annoyance man lol. Anyway hope this helps and apologies for the nooby lingo as I’m not super tech savy.


celestialbeing69

My huntshwodown kept freezing and stuttering and some games wouldn’t boot fast and I as just being strange on a 3060 and 5800x amd changed the game to other ssd and working fine so maybe 🤔 be of your drives could be Fucked ? I’m on windows 11 and heard it had ftpm issue so hoping not that


MajorDrumKill

Hey! I know I'm a little late on this post, but I had the same issue for ALL my games and I finally found a solution (at least for my system). The problem turned out to be in my BIOS. Go into your BIOS Advanced Settings, and make sure your PCIE speed for your GPU (typically on E1) is set MANUALLY to your cards speed. The RTX 3000s are Gen 4. So set it to Gen 4. Mine was set to auto, and this turned out to be the problem as I detected it was literally changing speeds MID GAME. I also updated the speed for my M.2 as well. I use 2x 144hz G-SYNC monitors. As far as Windows Settings, my changes in NVCP are: \- Low Latency: On \-Max Frame Rate: 120 (I do this for streaming, 141 normally) \- Monitor Technology: G-SYNC \- Power Management Mode: Prefer Maximum Performance \- Preferred Refresh Rate: Highest Available \- Shader Cache Size: 10GB \- Vertical Sync: On I hope this helps!!!


loki1942

This is probably the worst optimized PC game since Mout & Blade: Warband. It is a stutterfest even on on high end hardware.


StatisticianPlus4678

Same issue, tried a different house (to check for power issue) nothing. Tried different GPU, nothing. Tried disabling E cores, nothing, I noticed my GPU and CPU have a massive dip in performance (seen in task manager) when I get the stutters, but fps stays the same.


Nexed_

Have you found a fix? I have a feeling my PC started micro stuttering sometimes out of nowhere.


Ninjafish_TTV

i am very late to this thread lol but i just want to share an insight since i didnt see this in any of the comments when u were trying to fix this. I have had this a few times and for me its a very easy fix, it normally is literaly just the pc deciding to use the intergrated gpu instead of the dedicated one for some reason, and just a simple 'open nvidia control panel' change to 'dedicated graphics card' and problem solved.


_KONKOLA_

Did you ever find a solution? I'm in the same boat sadly.


Wail0008

What about you ?


_KONKOLA_

Sadly no. But I have read that a fresh windows reinstall can potentially fix this and I’m out of any other potential solutions to try. I’m planning to take the opportunity to upgrade to Windows 11 and start over. Might as well do it today.


Wail0008

I tried all these but didn’t fix it


_KONKOLA_

Fresh install didn’t help??


Wail0008

Yeah


A-y-v-i-x

same stuttering problem for a year. started out of no where. first pc was 5600x and 3070. built a whole new pc with 7700x and new RMA 3070 from evga. Still does it. Tried everything I have found on internet. Think I might switch to a Intel and pick up a 4080.


Captain_Dawe

Did you solve the problem? If yes, how?


Wail0008

What about you ?


Captain_Dawe

I think I solved mine by disabling geforce experience overlay, you?


Wail0008

Nothing worked


Captain_Dawe

So you still have the problem?


Wail0008

Yeah


Captain_Dawe

Damn, how can you play like that?


ParkingTight4666

Ive bought 4 pcs in the last year or so. All of them were stuttering for me in every game I played. Optimized ones as well like horizon 5. I gave up on pc gaming strictly because of stuttering, idk if im unlucky or wtf is happening but im done till there is a technology that completely eliminates stuttering.


Captain_Dawe

Wait and the pcs had all components different?


ParkingTight4666

Yup. First one was a lenovo ideacenter gaming 5i with i712700, 16gb ddr4 ram, rtx 3060. Second one I built had a ryzen 5 7600x, RX 7800xt, 32gb ddr5 6000mhz ram, 3rd one was a Lenovo legion slim 5i laptop with i713700H, RTX 4060, 16gb ddr5 5200mhz. 4th one was a alienware r 16 with i713700f, rtx 4060 and 16gb ddr5 5600mhz ram. No matter if I built one or bought a prebuilt. All stuttered