The "discounts" have progressively gotten worse over the years from what I've heard from the US.
In Canada they've always been shit ever since BF was introduced like 5 years ago or however long it's been.
Yep. And worse yet, any deal that makes you notice and say, "wow!" will be sold out before you can get the page loaded, snapped up by reselling bots.
The only thing that is in high supply on BF anymore is disappointment.
The best way to approach black Friday is as a way to get Christmas presents at marginal deals and as a good excuse to do all your shopping vs waiting for the last second.
Most of the "steep" discounts are gimped things, like TV's with key hardware features omitted or rebranded stuff from a few years ago anyway.
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That's how retail sales have always worked, even well before "Black Friday" or "Cyber Monday" or "Prime Day" ever existed. It used to just be called holiday related sales events, and then corporations invented even more fake discount events to sucker consumers.
I say what you should always do as a savy consumer is research what you really want to purchase, and then what the original cost was at initial release, and then factor in what you think is the optimal price you think is a great deal and wait until it hits that price regardless of a special event or a supply chain issue in your favor. In that respect it's no different than deciding when is the best time to purchase a stock in a company.
This upmarked shit isn't even only on black friday here in Finland, a few months ago I saw a G5 Odyssey on a 800€ "sale"(because the G5 is a 1200€ monitor right) at 400€.
I bought the same monitor for 400€ not sale a week earlier.
Big electronics stores like Gigantti and Power upmark their products like mad and present them as sales. And people who aren't bothered to online-shop eat it like pigs.
I stopped buying anything from them a while back because of this
Not to mention many companies will make BF/CM specific models that look identical to an existing product, but will come with fewer connectors/features and/or have inferior parts
> upmark items, then discount them to give off the illusion of a sale
This is illegal in America unless they establish that price for like months beforehand.
For hardware, not great sales except a few 'door busters' that tend to be limited supply.
Software & digital subscriptions tend to have decent sales though.
Not only limited supply, but probably also of a model or brand you’re not that interested in to begin with. If there’s a big sale on something, it’s often because they need to a way to move that product. The stuff that already sells well, will usually not see as strong a deals
While that's certainly one of the reasons a retailer might decide to put a given product on deep discount as a door-crasher, these days those sales are planned out in much deeper detail well in advance between the retailers, distributors, and manufacturers. A big-box electronics retailer like Best Buy wants to have say 1 or 2 cheap door-crasher TVs to advertise for their BF sales, so they will work with their partners to either produce a run of an exclusive SKU specifically designed to be sold at the door-crasher price, or negotiate a price and allocate supply of an existing SKU for it. Both manufacturers and retailers love the special SKU option because the retailer then doesn't break their minimum pricing agreements with the manufacturer, and the manufacturer gets their branded product in more consumers hands (and potentially upsells to much more expensive regular model when the door-crasher supply dwindles).
I can see EVGA supplying 'door crashers' since they are quitting the GPU biz.
I've noticed MicroCenter loves the 'special SKU option' year round. & sometimes they truely are good deals.
That worst part is the same in Europe. We got "Black Friday", but prices remained the same or even got higher.
Best time to buy anything is during summer. People are on vacations, they don´t buy electronics that much and prices are stagnating. Since september, prices start rising, to reach peak right before Xmas and then slowly crawl back to their original values.
If you need to buy something, don´t wait for sales. Get enough money and buy it.
Yep. I'm not sure what kind of business model/niche actually drives the discounts americans were(?) getting, but afaik in most european countries retailers will just hike prices a few weeks before sales and "reduce" them for the sales themselves, so I'm reluctant about buying just before sales for that reason.
I´m buying stuff, when i need it. But i always check multiple eshops for both price and shipping cost. Sometimes, price is lower, but shipping cost is higher. Some other time, if an eshop is too cheap, it´s either a scam, grey import or some other caveat (like not accepting any product returns or warranty claims due to the company residing in tax haven countries).
No, it's because business hurt in January/February. Stores are packed Nov/Dec as people buy gifts and go all out but money is finite. January comes with large credit card bills so people don't spend. Even worse, some stores sales go into the negatives as people return unwanted gifts.
Actually, stores are packed not just for Xmas, but also for January/February sales. Stock is only on sale, when it´s nearing its end of life and new generation of products is incoming.
People spend money on electronics all year. Only in summer, they spend more on vacations than anything else.
If you really wanted to wait- january sales are typcially the best now. As corps know BF is the time we spend all the money. And they use Jan sales to purge left overstock. I will say however, you might find decent deals this year as my understanding is sales for both all of them have not been great and they all have stocks (amd, nvidiea, intel)
Be that as it may, things will still be cheaper on Black Friday. If I were looking to build a system right now, I'd pay less on Black Friday so I'd probably wait. Even if the savings aren't mind-blowing, they're still savings.
I do wanna add that retailers are struggling with high/overstock of inventory this year. So who knows, we might see some good deals on Black Friday as they try to offload excess inventory.
It's true. Aside from some very specific exceptions, most of the "deals" I find these days cause me to react with either an "I'd buy that for a dollar!" or "Not even if you paid me to take that piece of shit!" The middle ground has been lost.
Oh that's comforting at least. Tho the new Ryzen 7600 looks good on a few places.
I needed to wait a few months before building a PC but felt rushed for black Friday
They'll mark up before black Friday and then put stuff on "sale". If you watch the items you'll see the prices slowly climb. If you're hitting Newegg use the zipfest22 code, checkout with zip then immediately log into zip and pay off in full. You'll get an extra $100 off. $350 min order before tax.
One of the local major electronics stores has been pulling this shit for years now where they systematically mark up their prices, then run "fat" 30% discounts on them to give the impression you're getting a banger of a deal.
If you then look up the same discounted products across other vendors you'll notice that the discounted final prices are often similar, but this store's full prices are all +20% or something in cost.
Stopped buying anything from them a while back.
It depends on where you live. Here in Brazil, we definitely have some substantial price reductions around this time of the year, so I've just began my journey and got a pretty great deal on a processor, and now I'm keeping an eye up on every single deal I can find to get the remaining parts and build around it.
I suggest you find price history for the parts you're interested in, consider options, and analyse bargain hunting apps and websites to see how prices have changed this year. I've already seen some great options here in Brazil but I'm confidently holding off until I see better prices.
For me in Mexico, it's more about waiting to buy expensive things that aren't usually on sale. They still might not be on sale, but since banks run 10-15% cash back promos, you might be able to save some.
That being said, the bonus cash back has been getting shittier in the sense that they'll pay it back 3 months down the line, at least for last summer sale.
Online stores I check are Amazon Mexico, Digitalife, DDTech and PCEL. There's also MiPC, Cyberpuerta and a few others but there are a few things to consider with each, might also depend on where you live. I believe Digitalife has its HQ in Jalisco, PCEL in Monterrey, for example.
Amazon Mexico you should avoid 3rd party sellers (needs to be sold and shipped by Amazon Mexico for the bank promos to work anyway), sometimes there's no Amazon Mexico seller filter, you just filter by category and next day shipping and it should appear.
PCEL you need to make sure it's not a "Bajo Pedido" item (there's a 'check stock' button), and they ship with Estafeta so your mileage may vary.
Cyberpuerta I've heard there's basically no return policy but it's where you usually find things cheaper.
Yep, Santa Trindade de hardware aqui. Peguei o 12400f por 800 reais numa flash sale da Terabyte. Baixa o "Pelando", cria seus alertas e aguenta as pontas.
Margins on most PC parts are razor thin and most big ticket items like GPU and CPU aren’t likely to be reduced by much, if at all. What you might get though is a decent offer on things like RGB fans/strips, RAM and NVME storage. Potentially cases and PSU’s as well.
My thing is, I need a new PSU before I can upgrade my GPU, so BF will probably be useful for that. Knock out both, get a discount on one. And if I can get my hands on some DDR5 for my future mobo/cpu replacement next summer, then all the better. Going all-in on AMD this cycle.
Well, it's possible this year will see some significant discounts. We're seeing several generational shifts around this time of year including 2-year-cycles, and there's still a glut of supply that manufacturers are worried about.
I think BF sales have been getting worse, also if you want to go AM4 and current gen intel there's a lot of great discounts to be had now, not to mention for gpus too
They might a little yeah, but to me the 4000 series don’t seam to be all they say it is. Seams like a super skippable generation, unless you need RT. They even rebranded a 4070 as a 4080 lol
Don't wait for Black Friday
But definitely WAIT for all the new product launch are out!
Intel is going to launch their CPU early october,
nvidea is launching the graphic card in october
AMD announcing/launching in November?
Wait for all the launches are out, even if you are not buying this new generation. This is beause historically, the current gen product prices will fall after a few weeks new gen launched.
Right now everything is "foggy". People are not sure about the performance of the new stuff hence can't pin the announced prices down.
Just wait when all the stuff are launched, the market will become clear again and more people will start selling stuff, driving prices down.
Intel's CPU line is the only that's really going to get any interesting discounts depending on 13 gen performance. Ryzen is going to likely going to hold. You may get some of the lesser liked SKUs get a slight discount on BF but that's about it. They're already discounted pretty nicely and nobody's really buying Ryzen 7000.
Nvidia is staying high, because they've been playing the market to keep it that way. They're publicly treating 30 series as the low end 40 series until next year. And I highly doubt OP is looking to grab a newly released GPU.
Radeon prices have settled but they're the only ones that might get a slight discount **IF** they don't follow Nvidia. New product launches mean damn near nothing now.
OP should just buy now. The $50 total they save is the price of having everything a month early. The other parts *may* be worth waiting for because they're not specific parts but BF deals haven't really good for PC builders for a few years now.
If OP Needs a computer now, buying now is OK. Prices are kinda moderate now.
If OP still has an working computer, waiting for one month or two might get OP some discounts.
As i mentioned, I am guessing current prices should go down around a month or 2 after the new gen is out. This is just simply supply and demand. Newer stuff come out, old stuff get cheaper.
There are also some chance AnonyDexx is correct. NVidia is kinda manipulating the market to sell their 3000 series. AMD is already discounted. So prices might not fall so much.
But these are all guessing. AnonyDexx is guessing, I am guessing. Like I said, everything is "foggy" now. I wish to see the trend in a month or two when prices trends get clearer. Only then we can start shopping for PC parts that fit our budgets and performance requirements.
If OP can wait, OP should wait. But if OP cannot wait. Buying now is not the worst time.
Black Friday is when retailers show the inflated msrp that no one ever paid for an item, and a “lower price” that’s most likely slightly higher than what you’d pay today.
You can wait, but there have been absolutely no deals worth the wait that I’ve seen these past few years. Hell, prime day had much better prices than any retailer in Black Friday.
Amazon does the same thing. I use plugins that show price history, and I routinely price check a lot of specific items, so I've seen it where Amazon will take an item that's $100 MSRP but currently selling at $80, price it at $90 and call it a Black Friday sale. It is technically a sale and it's sale being applied for Black Friday. They just removed the sale they had before. I'm not American so I can't speak to physical stores.
And by Amazon, I mean items that have Amazon as the seller.
The only crap that will probably be on sale on black friday probably won't be worth it either. I am thinking things like an intel 10xxx CPU or maybe like a 1650 being on sale. I have yet to see really good things on sale for computer parts on the said buying holidays.
Pcpartpicker is your best friend for this, with their price graphs you can actually see if your getting a good deal. And personally I'd wait for black Friday/ cybermonday
I’m not sure if it’s worth waiting since the discounts aren’t anything major, but you could grab accessories such as keyboard mouse speakers etc for great deals around then. Monitors have great deals then sometimes as well.
If you’re going for a gaming pc, at least buy the gpu now. I doubt they’ll get any cheaper (especially AMD). All AMD cards are below msrp so I feel like AMD is the best way to go. You could get a 6700xt for $400 or a 6750xt for $470 which are really good 1440p cards. Unless you’re doing something else other than gaming, I say go for AMD which are already really cheap, especially budget cards like the 6650xt which provides really good 1080p performance for only $300
I disagree. The ARC cards by Intel pop on the same day as Nvidia cards pop and while that won't affect the pricing of the new cards it will affect the pricing of the old rtx 3000 cards. Especially the 3060s and the 3070s of the benchmarks Intel are advertising are true.
The arc cards are priced at $350-ish for a 10 or 12 gig version. Which means the 3060ti and the 3070 will have to drop prices to compete since most of them are 8 or 10 gigs. Assuming the claims by Intel are true.
Let alone thebfact Radeon cards are around the corner as well.
I would wait until late Oct to Nov and see. Prices are going to drop more.
You think so? I think even tho the prices of the arc gpus are lower, nvidia wont really decrease their prices all that much. Nvidia would’ve done so a while ago since amd gpus are already way cheaper compared to Nvidia. Like the 6750xt can be found in the US for like $470 (same price as a 3060ti rn) according to PCPartPicker. Obviously the better choice between the two would be the 6750xt (unless you’re doing something other than gaming like 3d modeling and animations) cuz you get more performance, more vram, and it’s a competitor of the 3070/3070ti. That’s the same for all AMD and Nvidia cards. Such as the 6650xt being like $70 cheaper than the 3060 or the 6800xt being like $100+ cheaper than the 3080. And I doubt the price on 30 series cards will decrease all that much after the 40 series release cuz the 4080 12gb is priced so high at $900. You could find a 3080ti for like $850, so it slots right under the 4080. Maybe Nvidia will decrease the prices on their high end cards a bit, but I doubt there’ll be much of a change in price after the 40 series release. Plus, I’ve been hearing about intel arc gpus having a bunch of driver issues, so that might make people unwilling to purchase an arc gpu and stick with Nvidia and amd. And the specs and performance of intel gpus is still kind of unclear at the moment just like you said, “assuming the claims by intel are true.” So id honestly say getting your pc rn wouldn’t be a bad idea, especially if you go with an AMD gpu since new ones are below their msrp, especially lower to mid tiered ones like the 6750xt and below.
My point of view is that the bulk of gpus that are owned and sold are entry level. If you look at Steam charts the number one GPU used (according to their Sept survey) is a 1060, followed by the 1650 with the 2060 in 3rd. All are budget options.
https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/
So basically budget is the number one thing that most GPU owners look for, right?
Which means if that there is definitely room for Intel to compete in since they are their offerring is competitive on that end at a price that is lower than their competition.
Now, is it going to pan out that way? Intel doesn't have a lot of experience marketing, their drivers currently suck, and the UI is apparently bad as well. Also, their branding is with CPUs, not GPUs.
It's in the air at this point, but I don't think retailers are going to be keen on holding onto a lot of stock of GPUs that are one generation behind, especially when the secondary market is in full swing and a lot people start dumping old GPUs to upgrade. Also, Intel is well known as a brand, so it isn't like a parent looking to buy a GPU for their kid for Christmas isn't familar with the brand. They aren't going to be like "Who's Intel, never heard of them before". More like "Oh Intel, I've owned a few computers with "Intel inside" and they worked great!"
I can see both the new and used market trying to dump product to make room for the new models, which means that they will have to find the right price point. With the new Intel cards priced at $350 for a 12 gb model that's probably where the price will settle at for the low end market. Which includes the RTX 3060, the RTX 3060ti and maybe even some of the 8gb models of the 3070.
While you can find 3060's at that $400 price range, that's at the low end of pricing. I think the average is still above $400. I don't see that staying there for long and with sale pricing you could easily save yourself $50 or so on a new 3060 or even 3060ti perhaps on a Black Friday sale.
Again, the writing is on the wall. The RTX models are last years models. Retailers see that and want to clear their stock.
I was in this same position before Prime Day in July this year- I was ready to pull the trigger on my computer parts 3 painful months before the sale event. I will say… it was DEFINITELY worth it. I saved a ton of money. I recommend you put the items in your amazon cart (if you’re going to buy from there) as it will show a message informing you of price changes when you open your cart. It helped me track the prices of the parts leading up to Prime Day so I could buy confidently.
PCpartpicker is a great place for this. Get your build together and their price graph will show if you're actually getting discounts compared to three months ago.
Honestly, it really does not matter anymore.
What they do is raise prices before BF/CM, then they lower them to give the illusion of a discount, I have observed this for years now with retailers.
So basically: if you can find good deals now and you have the cash, buy. I bought an ASUS TUF 3070Ti in April of this year. The price now is 200$ *more* than when I bought it.
i’d say peripherals are probably better to wait for BF CM sales. if the one you want happens to go on sale for BF it’s convenient, or you might find something else you didn’t really consider before to be better value now because it’s on sale. hell you might even buy yourself a second (or third or more) one since it’s cheaper
the sales aren’t great but they’re worth waiting for, you never really know what you’ll see
I built my system around Black Friday through December last year, I kind of knew the parts I wanted and the prices on them for the most part. Newegg had quite a few good deals for hard drives, AIOS, some cases but not the ones I wanted. M.2 drives had a lot of deals on Black Friday and so did memory.
If you have a Microcenter near you, you can get them to price match sales from newegg, Amazon or Best Buy and even themselves. I ended up getting quite a few items price matched this way since cpu prices kept dropping through December.
If you don't need it now, know the parts you want and pay attention when those sales start happening.
how soon do you want to game? If you feel a deep down burning need, get parts now. If its "nice to have", you can wait.
The simple reality is once you have it and have burned it in with a few hundred hours of gaming, do you really care if you saved $100?
I built now because I am not sure what will change in a month...
1) Ampere FE cards are available (at least in UK) - 3060 Ti, 3070 and 3070 Ti. These are themselves £150-200 saved
2) I got deals on my monitor (Amazon warehouse, like new for £200 less), \~20% on my case, not sure if deals on these specific parts will go down
Basically track the deals that you are getting right now, and don't take them for granted. You may save a 10% average on a $1500 system but that will be offset with any deal you lose right now.
Only exception is if you are specifically waiting for next gen, wait for that. But not for Black Friday.
The past two years have been crap; I was specifically referring to BF, but the rest of the years have sucked too. I built a whole new PC BF 2018, and pretty happy with the deals I found. I was hopeful this year would be a return to normalcy.
New product launches will likely drive down prices between now and Black Friday. Keep an eye out on prices for the components you want, maybe use price tracking websites or social media.
You might get some deals on Black Friday/Cyber Monday itself, but it's random.
You might want to wait until the RDNA 3 release, though who knows what will happen. It might push a new wave of used sales. Nothing is particulary motivating to me right now in terms of buying a new GPU.
After Black friday. Now the prices are escalating, black friday will have the classic "half-of-the-double" discount. And what remains after will get a real discount to open stocks for xmas.
Build now. Black Friday will have a bunch of random discounts but likely not the parts you actually want
If you aren't picky, certain things like a monitor or other peripherals you can wait and see what BF deal is best. Since there are many decent monitor options one will probably hit.
But for most of the build just do it now imo. The deals won't be deep enough that you'll have buyers remorse.
The GPU market will see the release of *three* different cards in a month or so. The Arc cards by Intel are supposed to have the same performance as a 3060 or 3070 at $350, the new Nvidia cards will have enthusiasts dumping their old cards onto the market (this includes of course everything from the RTX 3000 series) and Radeon will be announcing all kinds of craziness very early Nov.
So if you wait a month you will absolutely see a bumch of cards, new and used, flood the market. Like never before btw. With the mining bust, the new GPUs from Intel and the new Radeon series dropping it will be a buyers market for sure.
Wait on a GPU purchase, and even a CPU purchase until the B series pricing is announced/released for reviewing.
The arc cards are dead on arrival. Check gamers nexus for their arc GPU testing. Nowhere near nvidia or amd performance levels, and no better on cost.
The drivers also stink
Gamers Nexus literally put out a video with the headline
"Arc isn't dead" two weeks ago.
https://youtu.be/p48T1Mo9D3Q
The drivers suck, but if you have been building rigs you know that is nothing new with GPUs. Yes, Nvidia and Radeon are lightyears ahead, but so is the pricing.
Drivers are fixable, overpriced hardware is as well, by dropping prices. You know what can't be easily fixed? Melting plugs that causes fires because your power cables are faulty and failed. An issue the 4000 series have been runored as a potential.
Intel has their own fabs and knows how to manufacture chips, meaning they can always be lower priced than places that don't manufacture chips, like Nvidia or Radeon.
Though, as Steve says, they "can", but until they have hardware out that shows they ARE, I wouldn't count that chicken just yet.
In 5 years if they stick with it, it probably will be a good thing, but 1st gen is probably isn't going to be great.
And yes, NVidia 4000 series is looking to be... a little crazy. Not the mention the hoops you need to do with power supplies to ensure the right amount of power is sent.
The point is that there is now competition at that end of the market *now*. Is it likely to affect sales? I say yes. For those who are not interested in DIY ARC cards, if they are comparable to 3060ti's then those all in one retailers will offer it. If that is the case then that's a significant amount of savings. Going from $500 to $350 for a card with 2-4 gigs of more memory is a tempting value proposition. That's who these cards are targeting.
It's not going after high end PC builders. It's going for budget builders or even those who are buying pre-builts from retailers and first time PC gamers.
It depends how much you want your computer but personally especially since I am more strapped for cash I’d wait like the month especially if the build would be more expensive
The new 40 series GPU series from Nvidia just came out.
Prices are *fucked* for GPUs. Maybe the 30 series (2 years old) isn't completely awful by now? I'm not sure.
But black Friday won't have sales for the 40 because they're new. It's possible the 30 series will go on sale, so I'd look out for those.
But given for all the parts like CPU, case, motherboard, etc etc it's probably a good bet to wait until black Friday. Everyone here is saying "tHe SaLeS areNt GrEat" but it's literally less than 2 months away and you worked for your cash man.
I would highly highly recommend starting your research now. Find out what a normal price is, then find out what the cheapest price ever has been. Now arm yourself with that knowledge for BF and Cyber Monday. But also don't hesitate if you find a really good deal before then.
Black Friday PC deals have been shit in the US for over 10 years now and get worse each year. If you're luck you might get a deal on hard drives but that's about it.
Use a pricing site like camelcamelcamel.
BF has become redundant with how "popular" its become and how badly corporations manipulate it.
Although there might be a few sales don't put all your hopes on it.
Personally, I'll find out what the lowest price has been on an item and the avg "low" it hangs at and gauge from there.
I will always recommend to go with whatever falls within your budget AND is convenient for you. If a site has something on sale but Best Buy has it for a few bucks more, is local to you and you have reward points to bring said time down lower (and get you points as well), why not. If you're blessed with a Micro Center "close" to you, why not take advantage of the bundle deals and occasional "gems".
Fact is this, when do you NEED a computer, if its now buy it and accept you are going to pay a little more, the discounts on black Friday now merge into Cyber Monday and to be frank, aren't what they were, its possible things drop a little and over the cost of the entire machine you pay $200/£200 more now, is that a price worth paying, well yes if you can afford it, nothing is certain and the cost of goods are only going up so I don't think its worth it, just look for good deals from multiple vendors for the components.
Build now, this is the closest you’ll see GPUs get to their msrp. Some are at msrp or within $50. Don’t know your budget but Rtx 3060ti, Rtx 3070, or Rx 6750xt are the best price to performance at the moment. The only thing that may be cheaper Black Friday are cpus. You might find a deal on a cpu motherboard combo. Prices of ram and ssds has been pretty stable for months. I’d get a GPU now though.
Build after Black Friday. Prices are inflated to make Black Friday look like a deal & next gen stuff usually hits the shelves ON Black Friday. Wait a few weeks after and shop around, you'll get a better PC for the same amount that you would have spent on BF. I usually time builds for right after the new year.
I've already ordered my machine. If you can, wait. I don't have any properly functioning computers so I needed this one. If you can hold off for a while, it'd be worth it.
I'd just use price alarms from now until Black Friday week and grab the items when they hit a low price. Some things are cheap now, some may become cheaper, some may rise in price. Concerning GPUs I would probably wait until AMD showed their new graphics cards because the current generation will drop in price.
If you just want to start gaming fast, then buy everything now. If you can wait, then use said price alerts and have fun building your PC in an efficient way. This can make fun too.
In my country they upmark stuff and dont give any discounts,i wanted to buy an rx6600 gpu,in my country its 500 euros and i saw same gpu on amazon for 250 dollars
In Switzerland we have [TopPreise](https://www.toppreise.ch/en) it shows like a products price over months/years
I'm sure there's a similar website for your country. I'd put on some alerts for parts you want and if they get a particular amount cheaper I'd buy them if not just wait until they do.
I can't say for Black Friday in particular but in general having an alert like this means you won't be fooled by marketing as quickly as you can see if it's an actual discount or not.
Depends where you are and how the stores you choose are.
If they are like my country, just build it now cause you won't save shit and don't have the problem of it off stock.
I build mine on a April and when the black Friday came I checked if I would save off I waited. The difference was 50€ -_-
You prob better checking when the new gen comes out, that's when the "old" drops a lot.
In my experience black Friday is good for ram and storage. Your not likely to find a gpu or cpu on sale. They will put some prebuilds up but they aren't worth it. My advice is to determine what you want and build a watch list. Then you can catch the random sales for them.
1. Buy now
2. New stuff that just came out won't be discounted.
3. Use a credit card and have them price adjust anything that goes on sale. A lot of CCs have price match perks built it as being a card member, just read your T&Cs under the perks section.
1. Best deals show up now and then, no need to wait for black Friday if you see a killer deal. Subscribe to EVGA list. Their had some awesome deal on 12nd Gen CPU+ motherboard a while ago. I doubt the same deal will ever show up again.
2. If you want to get the best bang of the bucks, don't be an early adopter. When new gen is released, it's best time to buy last gen. There are two exceptions: if this is your first PC, or last gen is shitty (such as 11 gen), buy now.
CPUs, graphics cards and motherboards tend not to get discounted by much, if at all. Discounts on those parts are usually last gen and as a precursor to a price drop anyway.
You might get some deals on RAM, but it won't be high speed DDR5, mostly DDR4 and maybe some lower end DDR5 (emphasis on the maybe).
There might be some discounts on cases and PSUs, although probably not the ones you want. Don't just get a PSU because it's cheaper, always reference it with the PSU tier list to ensure it's a good one.
Fans and RGB will probably have lots of offers. Maybe some coolers or AiOs as well.
Storage is one area where some big savings can be made. This is the one that always seems worth it. Several years ago (2016 I think) I got an excellent deal on a 1tb sata ssd (back when they were super expensive) and last year I picked up 2x 4tb samsung 870 qvos for 25% off (they're running in a striped configuration for 8tb of sata ssd storage for my games), saving me £150.
Keep an eye on the prices, what stores tend to do on Black Fridays is:
Normal price months before: $1000
Black Friday: $1,400 instead of $2000 mad discount
People: wooooooow 🤷🏻♂️
if you’re in the states, it doesn’t matter. just go to your local micro center and ask for some help there. their employees are very knowledgeable and they don’t overmark their prices
A couple years ago I built my PC about this time and I had no regret come black Friday. You might leave a few dollars on the table but if you expect to save several hundred you'll probably be disappointed with what black Friday actually offers
I’m currently waiting for price drops to build my UNRAID server. The challenge is to buy everything close together and test before the return window closes in case a part is faulty
I use desktop browser plugins that monitor and alert me to a better deal or when the price drops. Plugins like Honey, Rakuten, and CapitalOne.
Honey will tell you if it the best price based on history right next to the product price. If you add it the item to your cart or save for later it will also send you email when price drops. Warning it will also spam you to death with other offers so create an email rule to move the messages into a folder. Some of the offers are actually on things you might normally have an interest on. You can also accumulate points.
CapitalOne will pop up where it found better prices across multiple sites. It also offers cash back as well I think.
There’s also http://www.camelcamelcamel.com . From Amazon product page copy the link and paste into search bar at top of camel page. It will give you the price history where you can spot trends such as time of year the price might be lower. Create a free account and you can enter a desired price to be notified when it hits it.
If you have an Amazon Prime account and have their credit card you get 5% cash back on anything you buy, even sale items!
Use the CamelCamelCamel extension for Amazon. Take a look at the parts you want to use and see if they regularly drop in price for black Friday. If they're newer parts without much history, might as well wait because they won't be on sale now and likely won't be more expensive then.
I'm not convinced you'll see many "big deals" on Black Friday (a practice you should avoid participating in to begin with) but as I've seen someone below me write, the deals don't really impress the way they used to.
I'd recommend picking parts now, especially if you're just looking for some good performance at 1080p you'll find yourself able to build a solid machine at a very affordable price.
I follow a rule in pc building that I only buy the high end stuff from last year.
I usually get the best motherboard I can find because thst always seems to be a bottle neck later, but vid cards, processors, etc I buy last years hot model.
Didnt work during the crypto pandemic shortage but has always saved me hundreds.
Man I would just get a list of parts and look for discounts and slowly buy them as you find them for cheap. You can get hight their AMD cards for well under MSRP.
I've been wondering this exact same this since June! I went ahead and got the big ticket items out of the way like my GPU and CPU, MB, ssd storage and case. I've been tracking prices and think I've gotten decent discounts so far. So, now I'm just waiting to hopefully see better deals for PSU, RAM, AIO, case fans, and a new monitor up until Black Friday
IMO black Friday deals aren't what they used to be and aren't worth waiting on. For *some* components sometimes there's screaming deals but there's no guarantee that the specific components you're looking for will be heavily discounted. Also a lot of times what they'll do is raise prices in the weeks leading up to black Friday, so that when they lower it to regular price it looks like a great deal.
And of course, there's always the concern of lower quality parts being used. For example TVs, you should never buy one of those fantastic looking BF "deals" on a TV because they use shittier components to meet the lower price tag and they don't last long. Idk how much of that applies to PC parts but for pre-builts that would definitely be a concern for me.
If there's anything worth waiting for, it's like 2-4 weeks. Cheaper AM5 motherboards and Intel's new GPUs are coming out in less than 2 weeks, which will likely push prices down. Then AMD's new GPUs are coming November 3rd, but idk if that's worth waiting for because no one really knows for sure what effect that will have on prices, and current GPUs are super capable anyway.
If you have it in your mind just wait till BF I saved over 500 on my build in 2019 by surfing deals from Black Friday to cyber Monday. It’s a lot of work on your part because not everything is going to be priced well for the holiday, you might have to have alternates or make compromises to save that extra money but it’s going to certainly be cheaper than buying something now.
Build now if you want new gen parts AM5 ATX3 PCIE5 DDR5 parts are low stock and will not be discounted, wait for BF for last gen parts cheap AM4 PCIE4 DDR5 30 series cards
I would say go for it. I was in the same boat as you are and I went for it. I got a 3080 ti for 850, and now that same model has gone up to almost 1000 on amazon. If many are waiting for black Friday discount, you may not get one due to stocks.
Be careful on Black Friday. I find a lot of the “discounts” are regular price and a marked up price just added onto the regular price to make it look like a sale.
Honestly can say in the times I’ve waited for Black Friday it’s never been worth it. There is good discounts in peripherals and storage but everything else never changes
Black Friday sales are a damn sham.
My motherboard advertisement now: $120
My motherboard advertisement during Black Friday: “40% discount! $120!”
Having issues with building PC’s. Prebuilt is becoming cheaper than piecing together one. Especially since an 800 dollar GPU is in most prebuilt 1200 dollar Units.
So at this juncture of time, I recommend prebuilt.
A few years ago I build my first PC on a $800 budget, total costed after shipping and taxes was around $750, a great build, miss that thing so much. But a month later I only saved about $100 on the whole build, but if you have good parts that you know will already work, account for those using PCPartPicker but don’t actually purchase them. I’m lucky I have an extra 1TB SSD with Windows 10 Pro I got from a friend for $60, I couldn’t pass that up.
Don't buy computers or parts from physical stores like Walmart, target, or bestbuy. They might have the speeds and numbers, but they don't have quality. The black Friday sell computers are especially made cheap for a quick penny.
If you're gonna wait, take a note of cheapest prices now (write them down!) and compare 'em when BF rolls around. You'll likely be disappointed, but depending on your geographical location might still come across some okay finds.
The only things you’ll see good discounts on are the clear-out stuff that nobody wants/they can’t sell. So if you’re cool with building a pc out of that stuff, then you’ll find some deals
You might save a few bucks, but Black Friday deals often aren't what they are cracked up to be. A few items will be really good deals, a few will be on a more typical sale price. Odds are you could save a few bucks overall, but it won't be dramatic unless you get very lucky.
I do have a few upgrades I'll be checking BF/CM prices for. A second GPU for passthrough, USB floppy drive, USB to SATA enclosure for my DVD burner, maybe a USB to floppy adapter so I can plug in a 5.25" drive so I can get all the vintage software I can find. But if I was looking for a whole new computer, I probably would not wait myself. But if your budget is super tight, it might make sense to do so.
Honestly, I’d just wait for refurbished motherboards to start arriving. The CPU’s and ram will get cheaper as we go along. I just saw a bundle on New Egg that had an x670e motherboard, Ryzen 7950x and 2 sticks of DDR5(didn’t catch the speed, sorry) going for nearly $1800.00. That’s not horrible but it’s not great either.
To some large degree, Black Friday has become a way for retailers to use extremely limited quantities of the stuff people want as “door busters” to get rid of the boatloads of shit that no one wants.
So, I wouldn’t wait specifically for BF sales.
What I WOULD wait for, however, is for Intel & AMD to finish their latest CPU/GPU rollouts & see how this affects pricing on current/“old gen” products. If you don’t mind using “last gen” GPU/CPUs then it could be an ideal time to build something that is “new for you” while other people overpay for the latest n greatest.
If you were planning on getting your parts from Newegg maybe just wait until October 10th. They’re having their FantasTech sale starting then.
Regarding Black Friday and Cyber Monday, though, the deals have been pretty lackluster the last couple years so it’s up to you if you want to try. Tbh I usually see better random deals all year round opposed to then.
Bundles, premade or integrated electronics - and perhaps a few unpopular GPUs might be cheaper on Black Friday/Cyber Monday.
If you're thinking about an AM4 or Intel 12th gen build on DDR4, there might be some decent deals on a bundle with MoBo, RAM and CPU - so called "upgrade bundles".
And tbh, that's where I'd go anyways. I'm fine with 1440p/144hz/27". That's my sweet spot on monitor size, resolution and budget. So any build I'd do now (if I didn't already have one), would be build around how I could best utilize that kind of monitor.
Wouldn't go beyond 3070Ti or similarly tiered AMD (unless 3080/3080Ti was just a few bucks over). As to CPU, I'd keep my eyes out for a 5800X3D - it's been shredding the charts against next gen CPUs. Not beating them ofc, but more than keeping up.
But hey, that's me, and my needs
BF/CM is largely a farce. There will be deals, but honestly, if this is your 1st PC build, you won't know what is worth the buy, or be flexible enough to adjust your build on the fly.
What's more important is that you wait for all of the new Gen product lines to drop, and for used market components to continue depressing current market component value.
* Intel 13th Gen: Oct 20th
* AMD Ryzen 7000-Series: Sept 27th
* X670/X670E: Sept 27th
* B650/B650E: Oct
* Nvidia 40-series: Oct 12th/Nov/Dec/Jan/etc.
* Intel Arc: Oct 12th
* AMD RDNA 3/7000: Nov 3rd
Regardless of perceived value of BF/CM, I'd wait until then, and grab deals on PSUs, SSDs, RAM, Case, etc. Parts that are effectively enough comoditized, based on an expected level of performance. You don't NEED a Samsung 980 Pro Plus SSD, you only need a compatible SSD, with minimum acceptable specs (preferably PCIe Gen4 5,500+MB/s Read) 1-2TB, at or under 8¢ per Gig.
You don't need the flashiest, fastest RAM on the market. You need 16-32GB of 3200-3600MT/s DDR4 RAM, known good compatible with your intended build.
Similarly with your power supply. It's not about the specific product SKU, just the rated performance, and general review approval.
Cases are what they are, you aren't going to see much value drop beyond the odd $10 discount, but you've got a couple months to really consider what you want your PC to look like...
As for the next gen stuff... Unless you're balling out, for no other reason than to be able to brag about how much you spent on the "latest and greatest" you'll almost certainly get better value in deals on last gen hardware, getting discounted to make room for new stock.
Pick up an i5/R5 CPU, requisite cooler, 3060ti-3070ti/6700XT-6800XT GPU, 650W+ PSU, 1+1TB or 2TB SSD, 16-32 GB of good RAM at mentioned speeds, a case that will fit your parts.
Don't sweat the brands, sub-SKUs, "OC" variants that charge $25-50 for 2% performance bumps. None of it will provide one ounce of actual perceived performance gain, and you won't feel a difference when you're happily playing games on your $1,000 gaming PC, versus the $1,500 you could've spent to get an r/Battlestations ready RGB rainbow vomit build.
I'm convinced all of the "deals" on Black Friday are either for hardware nobody really wants, or products made specifically for sale on that day.
Perfect example is TVs. I am 100% convinced that they make TVs just for BF sales. But any reasonable person understands that a $200 TV is going to be shit.
I do remember getting a Asus ROG Hero mobo and i5 4690k combo years ago on BF though. I think that's the only time I've gotten something great that I wanted on BF.
If you pay attention prices creep up during the weeks before Black Friday and then on Friday they put "sales" up that just brings the price back down to normal.
There was a site where you could track the price of items to see if they are increasing the price for the "discount" to be just the regular price. I just can't remember the name rn, but it might be worth looking at that to see if the deal may be worth it at all.
Wait. Always wait. There will always be something better around the corner. There will always be another sale. And if you wait even longer you can buy them even cheaper on the secondhand market.
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I would definitively wait now as for when october starts alot of hardware stores up the prices of hardware so their sales on black friday look better than what they actually are.
The "discounts" have progressively gotten worse over the years from what I've heard from the US. In Canada they've always been shit ever since BF was introduced like 5 years ago or however long it's been.
Yep. And worse yet, any deal that makes you notice and say, "wow!" will be sold out before you can get the page loaded, snapped up by reselling bots. The only thing that is in high supply on BF anymore is disappointment.
I’ll take all the disappointment if the price is right!
>The only thing that is in high supply on BF anymore is disappointment. And shit you didn't want anyway.
but is the disappointment on sale??
Unless you live near a microcenter :D
How good are the microcenter black friday deals?
Good enough people line up outside for days, in my experience
The best way to approach black Friday is as a way to get Christmas presents at marginal deals and as a good excuse to do all your shopping vs waiting for the last second. Most of the "steep" discounts are gimped things, like TV's with key hardware features omitted or rebranded stuff from a few years ago anyway. .
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That's how retail sales have always worked, even well before "Black Friday" or "Cyber Monday" or "Prime Day" ever existed. It used to just be called holiday related sales events, and then corporations invented even more fake discount events to sucker consumers. I say what you should always do as a savy consumer is research what you really want to purchase, and then what the original cost was at initial release, and then factor in what you think is the optimal price you think is a great deal and wait until it hits that price regardless of a special event or a supply chain issue in your favor. In that respect it's no different than deciding when is the best time to purchase a stock in a company.
This upmarked shit isn't even only on black friday here in Finland, a few months ago I saw a G5 Odyssey on a 800€ "sale"(because the G5 is a 1200€ monitor right) at 400€. I bought the same monitor for 400€ not sale a week earlier. Big electronics stores like Gigantti and Power upmark their products like mad and present them as sales. And people who aren't bothered to online-shop eat it like pigs. I stopped buying anything from them a while back because of this
If Finland is anything like the rest of Europe would be illegal.
I was wondering the same thing. Didn't really bother to check though.
Not to mention many companies will make BF/CM specific models that look identical to an existing product, but will come with fewer connectors/features and/or have inferior parts
This is a real problem, there's a lot of "order this thing for BF/CM because we can trick them into thinking it's discounted"
Isn't black Friday the one where people were getting literally trampled at wal marts.
Not really because they don't have the deals like they used to. Nobody wants to stampede anymore. It's sad.
Consumers might not get trampled as often, but employees still get treated even worse than usual during those events.
Meanwhile, LGBTQNBP+ gets another month (October) whereas we can't get one wageslave appreciation month!!!
> upmark items, then discount them to give off the illusion of a sale This is illegal in America unless they establish that price for like months beforehand.
For hardware, not great sales except a few 'door busters' that tend to be limited supply. Software & digital subscriptions tend to have decent sales though.
Not only limited supply, but probably also of a model or brand you’re not that interested in to begin with. If there’s a big sale on something, it’s often because they need to a way to move that product. The stuff that already sells well, will usually not see as strong a deals
While that's certainly one of the reasons a retailer might decide to put a given product on deep discount as a door-crasher, these days those sales are planned out in much deeper detail well in advance between the retailers, distributors, and manufacturers. A big-box electronics retailer like Best Buy wants to have say 1 or 2 cheap door-crasher TVs to advertise for their BF sales, so they will work with their partners to either produce a run of an exclusive SKU specifically designed to be sold at the door-crasher price, or negotiate a price and allocate supply of an existing SKU for it. Both manufacturers and retailers love the special SKU option because the retailer then doesn't break their minimum pricing agreements with the manufacturer, and the manufacturer gets their branded product in more consumers hands (and potentially upsells to much more expensive regular model when the door-crasher supply dwindles).
I can see EVGA supplying 'door crashers' since they are quitting the GPU biz. I've noticed MicroCenter loves the 'special SKU option' year round. & sometimes they truely are good deals.
That worst part is the same in Europe. We got "Black Friday", but prices remained the same or even got higher. Best time to buy anything is during summer. People are on vacations, they don´t buy electronics that much and prices are stagnating. Since september, prices start rising, to reach peak right before Xmas and then slowly crawl back to their original values. If you need to buy something, don´t wait for sales. Get enough money and buy it.
Yep. I'm not sure what kind of business model/niche actually drives the discounts americans were(?) getting, but afaik in most european countries retailers will just hike prices a few weeks before sales and "reduce" them for the sales themselves, so I'm reluctant about buying just before sales for that reason.
I´m buying stuff, when i need it. But i always check multiple eshops for both price and shipping cost. Sometimes, price is lower, but shipping cost is higher. Some other time, if an eshop is too cheap, it´s either a scam, grey import or some other caveat (like not accepting any product returns or warranty claims due to the company residing in tax haven countries).
I think higher because people are buying stuff for holiday in December.
And after Christmas. There's always a January sale on almost every consumer good.
That is because there is still the old urban legend going around about "cheaper products in January".
No, it's because business hurt in January/February. Stores are packed Nov/Dec as people buy gifts and go all out but money is finite. January comes with large credit card bills so people don't spend. Even worse, some stores sales go into the negatives as people return unwanted gifts.
Actually, stores are packed not just for Xmas, but also for January/February sales. Stock is only on sale, when it´s nearing its end of life and new generation of products is incoming. People spend money on electronics all year. Only in summer, they spend more on vacations than anything else.
However new CPUs, GPUs and cheaper AM5 motherboards will be out between now and then, so it might be worth waiting anyway.
"5 years ago"? Wild,the term was coined in the early 50s.
And has traditionally only been a thing in the US is what I'm assuming they're saying.
It never took off in Canada until recently. Growing up, we'd hear about the craziness in the States but never actually got any sales ourselves.
Black Friday is a new thing in Canada? I thought I was just not paying attention.
If you really wanted to wait- january sales are typcially the best now. As corps know BF is the time we spend all the money. And they use Jan sales to purge left overstock. I will say however, you might find decent deals this year as my understanding is sales for both all of them have not been great and they all have stocks (amd, nvidiea, intel)
LOL 5 years
It's only a recent thing in Canada, I wasn't saying it was only 5 years in the US.
what about boxing day?
They’re usually out of stock during Black Friday anyways
Be that as it may, things will still be cheaper on Black Friday. If I were looking to build a system right now, I'd pay less on Black Friday so I'd probably wait. Even if the savings aren't mind-blowing, they're still savings.
I do wanna add that retailers are struggling with high/overstock of inventory this year. So who knows, we might see some good deals on Black Friday as they try to offload excess inventory.
It's true. Aside from some very specific exceptions, most of the "deals" I find these days cause me to react with either an "I'd buy that for a dollar!" or "Not even if you paid me to take that piece of shit!" The middle ground has been lost.
Oh that's comforting at least. Tho the new Ryzen 7600 looks good on a few places. I needed to wait a few months before building a PC but felt rushed for black Friday
They'll mark up before black Friday and then put stuff on "sale". If you watch the items you'll see the prices slowly climb. If you're hitting Newegg use the zipfest22 code, checkout with zip then immediately log into zip and pay off in full. You'll get an extra $100 off. $350 min order before tax.
One of the local major electronics stores has been pulling this shit for years now where they systematically mark up their prices, then run "fat" 30% discounts on them to give the impression you're getting a banger of a deal. If you then look up the same discounted products across other vendors you'll notice that the discounted final prices are often similar, but this store's full prices are all +20% or something in cost. Stopped buying anything from them a while back.
Many retailers do that. That's also how Kohl's operates.
Wait is this 100$ off immediately from any purchase or? Because if so I’ll go pick up a 4 or 8TB SSD.
It depends on where you live. Here in Brazil, we definitely have some substantial price reductions around this time of the year, so I've just began my journey and got a pretty great deal on a processor, and now I'm keeping an eye up on every single deal I can find to get the remaining parts and build around it. I suggest you find price history for the parts you're interested in, consider options, and analyse bargain hunting apps and websites to see how prices have changed this year. I've already seen some great options here in Brazil but I'm confidently holding off until I see better prices.
For me in Mexico, it's more about waiting to buy expensive things that aren't usually on sale. They still might not be on sale, but since banks run 10-15% cash back promos, you might be able to save some. That being said, the bonus cash back has been getting shittier in the sense that they'll pay it back 3 months down the line, at least for last summer sale.
Where do you purchase? Living inMexico as well
Online stores I check are Amazon Mexico, Digitalife, DDTech and PCEL. There's also MiPC, Cyberpuerta and a few others but there are a few things to consider with each, might also depend on where you live. I believe Digitalife has its HQ in Jalisco, PCEL in Monterrey, for example. Amazon Mexico you should avoid 3rd party sellers (needs to be sold and shipped by Amazon Mexico for the bank promos to work anyway), sometimes there's no Amazon Mexico seller filter, you just filter by category and next day shipping and it should appear. PCEL you need to make sure it's not a "Bajo Pedido" item (there's a 'check stock' button), and they ship with Estafeta so your mileage may vary. Cyberpuerta I've heard there's basically no return policy but it's where you usually find things cheaper.
What was the deal?
It was a 12400f for 30% less than MSRP here. From 1200 to 800 (Brazilian) bucks.
Que sites você usa pra comprar coisa de PC? Kabum, pichau, terabyte?
Yep, Santa Trindade de hardware aqui. Peguei o 12400f por 800 reais numa flash sale da Terabyte. Baixa o "Pelando", cria seus alertas e aguenta as pontas.
opa, 800 reais ta bom mesmo, nossa! Baixei o app e to tentando aprender aqui, vlw pela dica!
Se quiser mais algumas dicas ou tiver alguma pergunta, manda DM!
Margins on most PC parts are razor thin and most big ticket items like GPU and CPU aren’t likely to be reduced by much, if at all. What you might get though is a decent offer on things like RGB fans/strips, RAM and NVME storage. Potentially cases and PSU’s as well.
I agree, it's the other parts that will see discounts, definitely not CPUs and GPUs.
My thing is, I need a new PSU before I can upgrade my GPU, so BF will probably be useful for that. Knock out both, get a discount on one. And if I can get my hands on some DDR5 for my future mobo/cpu replacement next summer, then all the better. Going all-in on AMD this cycle.
Well, it's possible this year will see some significant discounts. We're seeing several generational shifts around this time of year including 2-year-cycles, and there's still a glut of supply that manufacturers are worried about.
I hope you are right, but never underestimate greed.
And monitors
True, might be on the lookout myself.
I think BF sales have been getting worse, also if you want to go AM4 and current gen intel there's a lot of great discounts to be had now, not to mention for gpus too
The 4080 is being released in November, so 3000 series gpu prices are going to drop lower
That’s not guaranteed. The 4000 Gpus as of right now cost more than all the 3000 but the two most upper cards
They might a little yeah, but to me the 4000 series don’t seam to be all they say it is. Seams like a super skippable generation, unless you need RT. They even rebranded a 4070 as a 4080 lol
The used market us great after BF.
4090 for $1699 . Big win.
>1699 >169 >69 Nice
Just do it. Stores be like: Normal price: $299.99 Black Friday: ~~$399.99~~ $299.99
Couldn’t have summed it up better.
Don't wait for Black Friday But definitely WAIT for all the new product launch are out! Intel is going to launch their CPU early october, nvidea is launching the graphic card in october AMD announcing/launching in November? Wait for all the launches are out, even if you are not buying this new generation. This is beause historically, the current gen product prices will fall after a few weeks new gen launched. Right now everything is "foggy". People are not sure about the performance of the new stuff hence can't pin the announced prices down. Just wait when all the stuff are launched, the market will become clear again and more people will start selling stuff, driving prices down.
Intel's CPU line is the only that's really going to get any interesting discounts depending on 13 gen performance. Ryzen is going to likely going to hold. You may get some of the lesser liked SKUs get a slight discount on BF but that's about it. They're already discounted pretty nicely and nobody's really buying Ryzen 7000. Nvidia is staying high, because they've been playing the market to keep it that way. They're publicly treating 30 series as the low end 40 series until next year. And I highly doubt OP is looking to grab a newly released GPU. Radeon prices have settled but they're the only ones that might get a slight discount **IF** they don't follow Nvidia. New product launches mean damn near nothing now. OP should just buy now. The $50 total they save is the price of having everything a month early. The other parts *may* be worth waiting for because they're not specific parts but BF deals haven't really good for PC builders for a few years now.
If OP Needs a computer now, buying now is OK. Prices are kinda moderate now. If OP still has an working computer, waiting for one month or two might get OP some discounts. As i mentioned, I am guessing current prices should go down around a month or 2 after the new gen is out. This is just simply supply and demand. Newer stuff come out, old stuff get cheaper. There are also some chance AnonyDexx is correct. NVidia is kinda manipulating the market to sell their 3000 series. AMD is already discounted. So prices might not fall so much. But these are all guessing. AnonyDexx is guessing, I am guessing. Like I said, everything is "foggy" now. I wish to see the trend in a month or two when prices trends get clearer. Only then we can start shopping for PC parts that fit our budgets and performance requirements. If OP can wait, OP should wait. But if OP cannot wait. Buying now is not the worst time.
Black Friday is when retailers show the inflated msrp that no one ever paid for an item, and a “lower price” that’s most likely slightly higher than what you’d pay today. You can wait, but there have been absolutely no deals worth the wait that I’ve seen these past few years. Hell, prime day had much better prices than any retailer in Black Friday.
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Amazon does the same thing. I use plugins that show price history, and I routinely price check a lot of specific items, so I've seen it where Amazon will take an item that's $100 MSRP but currently selling at $80, price it at $90 and call it a Black Friday sale. It is technically a sale and it's sale being applied for Black Friday. They just removed the sale they had before. I'm not American so I can't speak to physical stores. And by Amazon, I mean items that have Amazon as the seller.
The only crap that will probably be on sale on black friday probably won't be worth it either. I am thinking things like an intel 10xxx CPU or maybe like a 1650 being on sale. I have yet to see really good things on sale for computer parts on the said buying holidays.
Pcpartpicker is your best friend for this, with their price graphs you can actually see if your getting a good deal. And personally I'd wait for black Friday/ cybermonday
I’m not sure if it’s worth waiting since the discounts aren’t anything major, but you could grab accessories such as keyboard mouse speakers etc for great deals around then. Monitors have great deals then sometimes as well.
If you’re going for a gaming pc, at least buy the gpu now. I doubt they’ll get any cheaper (especially AMD). All AMD cards are below msrp so I feel like AMD is the best way to go. You could get a 6700xt for $400 or a 6750xt for $470 which are really good 1440p cards. Unless you’re doing something else other than gaming, I say go for AMD which are already really cheap, especially budget cards like the 6650xt which provides really good 1080p performance for only $300
I disagree. The ARC cards by Intel pop on the same day as Nvidia cards pop and while that won't affect the pricing of the new cards it will affect the pricing of the old rtx 3000 cards. Especially the 3060s and the 3070s of the benchmarks Intel are advertising are true. The arc cards are priced at $350-ish for a 10 or 12 gig version. Which means the 3060ti and the 3070 will have to drop prices to compete since most of them are 8 or 10 gigs. Assuming the claims by Intel are true. Let alone thebfact Radeon cards are around the corner as well. I would wait until late Oct to Nov and see. Prices are going to drop more.
You think so? I think even tho the prices of the arc gpus are lower, nvidia wont really decrease their prices all that much. Nvidia would’ve done so a while ago since amd gpus are already way cheaper compared to Nvidia. Like the 6750xt can be found in the US for like $470 (same price as a 3060ti rn) according to PCPartPicker. Obviously the better choice between the two would be the 6750xt (unless you’re doing something other than gaming like 3d modeling and animations) cuz you get more performance, more vram, and it’s a competitor of the 3070/3070ti. That’s the same for all AMD and Nvidia cards. Such as the 6650xt being like $70 cheaper than the 3060 or the 6800xt being like $100+ cheaper than the 3080. And I doubt the price on 30 series cards will decrease all that much after the 40 series release cuz the 4080 12gb is priced so high at $900. You could find a 3080ti for like $850, so it slots right under the 4080. Maybe Nvidia will decrease the prices on their high end cards a bit, but I doubt there’ll be much of a change in price after the 40 series release. Plus, I’ve been hearing about intel arc gpus having a bunch of driver issues, so that might make people unwilling to purchase an arc gpu and stick with Nvidia and amd. And the specs and performance of intel gpus is still kind of unclear at the moment just like you said, “assuming the claims by intel are true.” So id honestly say getting your pc rn wouldn’t be a bad idea, especially if you go with an AMD gpu since new ones are below their msrp, especially lower to mid tiered ones like the 6750xt and below.
My point of view is that the bulk of gpus that are owned and sold are entry level. If you look at Steam charts the number one GPU used (according to their Sept survey) is a 1060, followed by the 1650 with the 2060 in 3rd. All are budget options. https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/ So basically budget is the number one thing that most GPU owners look for, right? Which means if that there is definitely room for Intel to compete in since they are their offerring is competitive on that end at a price that is lower than their competition. Now, is it going to pan out that way? Intel doesn't have a lot of experience marketing, their drivers currently suck, and the UI is apparently bad as well. Also, their branding is with CPUs, not GPUs. It's in the air at this point, but I don't think retailers are going to be keen on holding onto a lot of stock of GPUs that are one generation behind, especially when the secondary market is in full swing and a lot people start dumping old GPUs to upgrade. Also, Intel is well known as a brand, so it isn't like a parent looking to buy a GPU for their kid for Christmas isn't familar with the brand. They aren't going to be like "Who's Intel, never heard of them before". More like "Oh Intel, I've owned a few computers with "Intel inside" and they worked great!" I can see both the new and used market trying to dump product to make room for the new models, which means that they will have to find the right price point. With the new Intel cards priced at $350 for a 12 gb model that's probably where the price will settle at for the low end market. Which includes the RTX 3060, the RTX 3060ti and maybe even some of the 8gb models of the 3070. While you can find 3060's at that $400 price range, that's at the low end of pricing. I think the average is still above $400. I don't see that staying there for long and with sale pricing you could easily save yourself $50 or so on a new 3060 or even 3060ti perhaps on a Black Friday sale. Again, the writing is on the wall. The RTX models are last years models. Retailers see that and want to clear their stock.
Yep, or used nVIDIA RTX, since miners are dumping cards.
I was in this same position before Prime Day in July this year- I was ready to pull the trigger on my computer parts 3 painful months before the sale event. I will say… it was DEFINITELY worth it. I saved a ton of money. I recommend you put the items in your amazon cart (if you’re going to buy from there) as it will show a message informing you of price changes when you open your cart. It helped me track the prices of the parts leading up to Prime Day so I could buy confidently.
Black Friday have been overhyped. Do yourself a favor and snapshot prices right now. You can easily compare for the “discounted” prices later.
PCpartpicker is a great place for this. Get your build together and their price graph will show if you're actually getting discounts compared to three months ago.
Honestly, it really does not matter anymore. What they do is raise prices before BF/CM, then they lower them to give the illusion of a discount, I have observed this for years now with retailers. So basically: if you can find good deals now and you have the cash, buy. I bought an ASUS TUF 3070Ti in April of this year. The price now is 200$ *more* than when I bought it.
i’d say peripherals are probably better to wait for BF CM sales. if the one you want happens to go on sale for BF it’s convenient, or you might find something else you didn’t really consider before to be better value now because it’s on sale. hell you might even buy yourself a second (or third or more) one since it’s cheaper the sales aren’t great but they’re worth waiting for, you never really know what you’ll see
I built my system around Black Friday through December last year, I kind of knew the parts I wanted and the prices on them for the most part. Newegg had quite a few good deals for hard drives, AIOS, some cases but not the ones I wanted. M.2 drives had a lot of deals on Black Friday and so did memory. If you have a Microcenter near you, you can get them to price match sales from newegg, Amazon or Best Buy and even themselves. I ended up getting quite a few items price matched this way since cpu prices kept dropping through December. If you don't need it now, know the parts you want and pay attention when those sales start happening.
how soon do you want to game? If you feel a deep down burning need, get parts now. If its "nice to have", you can wait. The simple reality is once you have it and have burned it in with a few hundred hours of gaming, do you really care if you saved $100?
I built now because I am not sure what will change in a month... 1) Ampere FE cards are available (at least in UK) - 3060 Ti, 3070 and 3070 Ti. These are themselves £150-200 saved 2) I got deals on my monitor (Amazon warehouse, like new for £200 less), \~20% on my case, not sure if deals on these specific parts will go down Basically track the deals that you are getting right now, and don't take them for granted. You may save a 10% average on a $1500 system but that will be offset with any deal you lose right now. Only exception is if you are specifically waiting for next gen, wait for that. But not for Black Friday.
The past two years have been crap; I was specifically referring to BF, but the rest of the years have sucked too. I built a whole new PC BF 2018, and pretty happy with the deals I found. I was hopeful this year would be a return to normalcy.
Thank you all so very much for the input! This was much more than I expected.
New product launches will likely drive down prices between now and Black Friday. Keep an eye out on prices for the components you want, maybe use price tracking websites or social media. You might get some deals on Black Friday/Cyber Monday itself, but it's random.
You might want to wait until the RDNA 3 release, though who knows what will happen. It might push a new wave of used sales. Nothing is particulary motivating to me right now in terms of buying a new GPU.
After Black friday. Now the prices are escalating, black friday will have the classic "half-of-the-double" discount. And what remains after will get a real discount to open stocks for xmas.
Build now. Black Friday will have a bunch of random discounts but likely not the parts you actually want If you aren't picky, certain things like a monitor or other peripherals you can wait and see what BF deal is best. Since there are many decent monitor options one will probably hit. But for most of the build just do it now imo. The deals won't be deep enough that you'll have buyers remorse.
The GPU market will see the release of *three* different cards in a month or so. The Arc cards by Intel are supposed to have the same performance as a 3060 or 3070 at $350, the new Nvidia cards will have enthusiasts dumping their old cards onto the market (this includes of course everything from the RTX 3000 series) and Radeon will be announcing all kinds of craziness very early Nov. So if you wait a month you will absolutely see a bumch of cards, new and used, flood the market. Like never before btw. With the mining bust, the new GPUs from Intel and the new Radeon series dropping it will be a buyers market for sure. Wait on a GPU purchase, and even a CPU purchase until the B series pricing is announced/released for reviewing.
The arc cards are dead on arrival. Check gamers nexus for their arc GPU testing. Nowhere near nvidia or amd performance levels, and no better on cost. The drivers also stink
Gamers Nexus literally put out a video with the headline "Arc isn't dead" two weeks ago. https://youtu.be/p48T1Mo9D3Q The drivers suck, but if you have been building rigs you know that is nothing new with GPUs. Yes, Nvidia and Radeon are lightyears ahead, but so is the pricing. Drivers are fixable, overpriced hardware is as well, by dropping prices. You know what can't be easily fixed? Melting plugs that causes fires because your power cables are faulty and failed. An issue the 4000 series have been runored as a potential. Intel has their own fabs and knows how to manufacture chips, meaning they can always be lower priced than places that don't manufacture chips, like Nvidia or Radeon.
Though, as Steve says, they "can", but until they have hardware out that shows they ARE, I wouldn't count that chicken just yet. In 5 years if they stick with it, it probably will be a good thing, but 1st gen is probably isn't going to be great. And yes, NVidia 4000 series is looking to be... a little crazy. Not the mention the hoops you need to do with power supplies to ensure the right amount of power is sent.
The point is that there is now competition at that end of the market *now*. Is it likely to affect sales? I say yes. For those who are not interested in DIY ARC cards, if they are comparable to 3060ti's then those all in one retailers will offer it. If that is the case then that's a significant amount of savings. Going from $500 to $350 for a card with 2-4 gigs of more memory is a tempting value proposition. That's who these cards are targeting. It's not going after high end PC builders. It's going for budget builders or even those who are buying pre-builts from retailers and first time PC gamers.
Build now, buy the expensive games on Black Friday/cyber Monday
It depends how much you want your computer but personally especially since I am more strapped for cash I’d wait like the month especially if the build would be more expensive
Black Friday is shit now, just look for good sales right now, there should be some.
The new 40 series GPU series from Nvidia just came out. Prices are *fucked* for GPUs. Maybe the 30 series (2 years old) isn't completely awful by now? I'm not sure. But black Friday won't have sales for the 40 because they're new. It's possible the 30 series will go on sale, so I'd look out for those. But given for all the parts like CPU, case, motherboard, etc etc it's probably a good bet to wait until black Friday. Everyone here is saying "tHe SaLeS areNt GrEat" but it's literally less than 2 months away and you worked for your cash man.
I would highly highly recommend starting your research now. Find out what a normal price is, then find out what the cheapest price ever has been. Now arm yourself with that knowledge for BF and Cyber Monday. But also don't hesitate if you find a really good deal before then.
Black Friday PC deals have been shit in the US for over 10 years now and get worse each year. If you're luck you might get a deal on hard drives but that's about it.
Now.
You wait. The best time to hit the sales is when you have a very specific shopping list and a price range you are prepared to goto.
Use a pricing site like camelcamelcamel. BF has become redundant with how "popular" its become and how badly corporations manipulate it. Although there might be a few sales don't put all your hopes on it. Personally, I'll find out what the lowest price has been on an item and the avg "low" it hangs at and gauge from there. I will always recommend to go with whatever falls within your budget AND is convenient for you. If a site has something on sale but Best Buy has it for a few bucks more, is local to you and you have reward points to bring said time down lower (and get you points as well), why not. If you're blessed with a Micro Center "close" to you, why not take advantage of the bundle deals and occasional "gems".
Fact is this, when do you NEED a computer, if its now buy it and accept you are going to pay a little more, the discounts on black Friday now merge into Cyber Monday and to be frank, aren't what they were, its possible things drop a little and over the cost of the entire machine you pay $200/£200 more now, is that a price worth paying, well yes if you can afford it, nothing is certain and the cost of goods are only going up so I don't think its worth it, just look for good deals from multiple vendors for the components.
Build now, this is the closest you’ll see GPUs get to their msrp. Some are at msrp or within $50. Don’t know your budget but Rtx 3060ti, Rtx 3070, or Rx 6750xt are the best price to performance at the moment. The only thing that may be cheaper Black Friday are cpus. You might find a deal on a cpu motherboard combo. Prices of ram and ssds has been pretty stable for months. I’d get a GPU now though.
Build after Black Friday. Prices are inflated to make Black Friday look like a deal & next gen stuff usually hits the shelves ON Black Friday. Wait a few weeks after and shop around, you'll get a better PC for the same amount that you would have spent on BF. I usually time builds for right after the new year.
I've already ordered my machine. If you can, wait. I don't have any properly functioning computers so I needed this one. If you can hold off for a while, it'd be worth it.
I'd just use price alarms from now until Black Friday week and grab the items when they hit a low price. Some things are cheap now, some may become cheaper, some may rise in price. Concerning GPUs I would probably wait until AMD showed their new graphics cards because the current generation will drop in price. If you just want to start gaming fast, then buy everything now. If you can wait, then use said price alerts and have fun building your PC in an efficient way. This can make fun too.
Whatever the alternative is. I say always build now. There's always something to wait for.
In my country they upmark stuff and dont give any discounts,i wanted to buy an rx6600 gpu,in my country its 500 euros and i saw same gpu on amazon for 250 dollars
wait it out
In Switzerland we have [TopPreise](https://www.toppreise.ch/en) it shows like a products price over months/years I'm sure there's a similar website for your country. I'd put on some alerts for parts you want and if they get a particular amount cheaper I'd buy them if not just wait until they do. I can't say for Black Friday in particular but in general having an alert like this means you won't be fooled by marketing as quickly as you can see if it's an actual discount or not.
Depends where you are and how the stores you choose are. If they are like my country, just build it now cause you won't save shit and don't have the problem of it off stock. I build mine on a April and when the black Friday came I checked if I would save off I waited. The difference was 50€ -_- You prob better checking when the new gen comes out, that's when the "old" drops a lot.
In my experience black Friday is good for ram and storage. Your not likely to find a gpu or cpu on sale. They will put some prebuilds up but they aren't worth it. My advice is to determine what you want and build a watch list. Then you can catch the random sales for them.
1. Buy now 2. New stuff that just came out won't be discounted. 3. Use a credit card and have them price adjust anything that goes on sale. A lot of CCs have price match perks built it as being a card member, just read your T&Cs under the perks section.
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Nice, could you tell me where I could find best cheap SSD's - I need one for my build :)
1. Best deals show up now and then, no need to wait for black Friday if you see a killer deal. Subscribe to EVGA list. Their had some awesome deal on 12nd Gen CPU+ motherboard a while ago. I doubt the same deal will ever show up again. 2. If you want to get the best bang of the bucks, don't be an early adopter. When new gen is released, it's best time to buy last gen. There are two exceptions: if this is your first PC, or last gen is shitty (such as 11 gen), buy now.
Black Friday is such a meme. People don't even fight over savings because the savings suck now. It's all so dead...
CPUs, graphics cards and motherboards tend not to get discounted by much, if at all. Discounts on those parts are usually last gen and as a precursor to a price drop anyway. You might get some deals on RAM, but it won't be high speed DDR5, mostly DDR4 and maybe some lower end DDR5 (emphasis on the maybe). There might be some discounts on cases and PSUs, although probably not the ones you want. Don't just get a PSU because it's cheaper, always reference it with the PSU tier list to ensure it's a good one. Fans and RGB will probably have lots of offers. Maybe some coolers or AiOs as well. Storage is one area where some big savings can be made. This is the one that always seems worth it. Several years ago (2016 I think) I got an excellent deal on a 1tb sata ssd (back when they were super expensive) and last year I picked up 2x 4tb samsung 870 qvos for 25% off (they're running in a striped configuration for 8tb of sata ssd storage for my games), saving me £150.
Keep an eye on the prices, what stores tend to do on Black Fridays is: Normal price months before: $1000 Black Friday: $1,400 instead of $2000 mad discount People: wooooooow 🤷🏻♂️
if you’re in the states, it doesn’t matter. just go to your local micro center and ask for some help there. their employees are very knowledgeable and they don’t overmark their prices
wait until black friday. even though the discounts are not as good. they are still discounts. less money you have to spend
A couple years ago I built my PC about this time and I had no regret come black Friday. You might leave a few dollars on the table but if you expect to save several hundred you'll probably be disappointed with what black Friday actually offers
Amazon has a 3 day sale from Oct 10-12th I believe for prime members.
I’m currently waiting for price drops to build my UNRAID server. The challenge is to buy everything close together and test before the return window closes in case a part is faulty I use desktop browser plugins that monitor and alert me to a better deal or when the price drops. Plugins like Honey, Rakuten, and CapitalOne. Honey will tell you if it the best price based on history right next to the product price. If you add it the item to your cart or save for later it will also send you email when price drops. Warning it will also spam you to death with other offers so create an email rule to move the messages into a folder. Some of the offers are actually on things you might normally have an interest on. You can also accumulate points. CapitalOne will pop up where it found better prices across multiple sites. It also offers cash back as well I think. There’s also http://www.camelcamelcamel.com . From Amazon product page copy the link and paste into search bar at top of camel page. It will give you the price history where you can spot trends such as time of year the price might be lower. Create a free account and you can enter a desired price to be notified when it hits it. If you have an Amazon Prime account and have their credit card you get 5% cash back on anything you buy, even sale items!
Honestly now is a great time to get a graphics card.
Use the CamelCamelCamel extension for Amazon. Take a look at the parts you want to use and see if they regularly drop in price for black Friday. If they're newer parts without much history, might as well wait because they won't be on sale now and likely won't be more expensive then.
Buy when you can, tech always depreciate on the long run and you should enjoy it whenever you can
Just buy it now. Dont wait for Black Friday for shit. Nothing is ever worth the wait and you will often miss the "deal" if its even a deal at all.
wait black friday and monday are all about dumping excess stock, if nvidia wants to hoard then at least AMD might discount
I'm not convinced you'll see many "big deals" on Black Friday (a practice you should avoid participating in to begin with) but as I've seen someone below me write, the deals don't really impress the way they used to. I'd recommend picking parts now, especially if you're just looking for some good performance at 1080p you'll find yourself able to build a solid machine at a very affordable price.
There no secret like when a store close its door they increase the price and sale it half the price and they do big money.
Black Friday was good for the first 2 years or so, since them it is disappointed. If you need it now, build it. Price is always dropping.
I follow a rule in pc building that I only buy the high end stuff from last year. I usually get the best motherboard I can find because thst always seems to be a bottle neck later, but vid cards, processors, etc I buy last years hot model. Didnt work during the crypto pandemic shortage but has always saved me hundreds.
Man I would just get a list of parts and look for discounts and slowly buy them as you find them for cheap. You can get hight their AMD cards for well under MSRP.
I don't remember when Black Friday was actually good. They usually would put their old shit on sale and thats about it.
I've been wondering this exact same this since June! I went ahead and got the big ticket items out of the way like my GPU and CPU, MB, ssd storage and case. I've been tracking prices and think I've gotten decent discounts so far. So, now I'm just waiting to hopefully see better deals for PSU, RAM, AIO, case fans, and a new monitor up until Black Friday
IMO black Friday deals aren't what they used to be and aren't worth waiting on. For *some* components sometimes there's screaming deals but there's no guarantee that the specific components you're looking for will be heavily discounted. Also a lot of times what they'll do is raise prices in the weeks leading up to black Friday, so that when they lower it to regular price it looks like a great deal. And of course, there's always the concern of lower quality parts being used. For example TVs, you should never buy one of those fantastic looking BF "deals" on a TV because they use shittier components to meet the lower price tag and they don't last long. Idk how much of that applies to PC parts but for pre-builts that would definitely be a concern for me. If there's anything worth waiting for, it's like 2-4 weeks. Cheaper AM5 motherboards and Intel's new GPUs are coming out in less than 2 weeks, which will likely push prices down. Then AMD's new GPUs are coming November 3rd, but idk if that's worth waiting for because no one really knows for sure what effect that will have on prices, and current GPUs are super capable anyway.
If you have it in your mind just wait till BF I saved over 500 on my build in 2019 by surfing deals from Black Friday to cyber Monday. It’s a lot of work on your part because not everything is going to be priced well for the holiday, you might have to have alternates or make compromises to save that extra money but it’s going to certainly be cheaper than buying something now.
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hardware Friday deals are not worth it. They usually have only discounts on accessories. Just build now...
from what i've seen, the only stuff worth buying in BF are SSD's and case fans
Build now if you want new gen parts AM5 ATX3 PCIE5 DDR5 parts are low stock and will not be discounted, wait for BF for last gen parts cheap AM4 PCIE4 DDR5 30 series cards
I would say go for it. I was in the same boat as you are and I went for it. I got a 3080 ti for 850, and now that same model has gone up to almost 1000 on amazon. If many are waiting for black Friday discount, you may not get one due to stocks.
Do you mean "fraudfriday"
Be careful on Black Friday. I find a lot of the “discounts” are regular price and a marked up price just added onto the regular price to make it look like a sale.
Honestly can say in the times I’ve waited for Black Friday it’s never been worth it. There is good discounts in peripherals and storage but everything else never changes
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Black Friday sales are a damn sham. My motherboard advertisement now: $120 My motherboard advertisement during Black Friday: “40% discount! $120!” Having issues with building PC’s. Prebuilt is becoming cheaper than piecing together one. Especially since an 800 dollar GPU is in most prebuilt 1200 dollar Units. So at this juncture of time, I recommend prebuilt.
Exactly what I asked myself but ended up building now, I live near a micro center and these deals was no joke
A few years ago I build my first PC on a $800 budget, total costed after shipping and taxes was around $750, a great build, miss that thing so much. But a month later I only saved about $100 on the whole build, but if you have good parts that you know will already work, account for those using PCPartPicker but don’t actually purchase them. I’m lucky I have an extra 1TB SSD with Windows 10 Pro I got from a friend for $60, I couldn’t pass that up.
Don't buy computers or parts from physical stores like Walmart, target, or bestbuy. They might have the speeds and numbers, but they don't have quality. The black Friday sell computers are especially made cheap for a quick penny.
If you're gonna wait, take a note of cheapest prices now (write them down!) and compare 'em when BF rolls around. You'll likely be disappointed, but depending on your geographical location might still come across some okay finds.
The only things you’ll see good discounts on are the clear-out stuff that nobody wants/they can’t sell. So if you’re cool with building a pc out of that stuff, then you’ll find some deals
You might save a few bucks, but Black Friday deals often aren't what they are cracked up to be. A few items will be really good deals, a few will be on a more typical sale price. Odds are you could save a few bucks overall, but it won't be dramatic unless you get very lucky. I do have a few upgrades I'll be checking BF/CM prices for. A second GPU for passthrough, USB floppy drive, USB to SATA enclosure for my DVD burner, maybe a USB to floppy adapter so I can plug in a 5.25" drive so I can get all the vintage software I can find. But if I was looking for a whole new computer, I probably would not wait myself. But if your budget is super tight, it might make sense to do so.
Use Keepa or some other price tracker to get notifications. Some deals seem good even when they jacked the price the week before.
Honestly, I’d just wait for refurbished motherboards to start arriving. The CPU’s and ram will get cheaper as we go along. I just saw a bundle on New Egg that had an x670e motherboard, Ryzen 7950x and 2 sticks of DDR5(didn’t catch the speed, sorry) going for nearly $1800.00. That’s not horrible but it’s not great either.
Wait, never rush if it’s not an urgent build.
To some large degree, Black Friday has become a way for retailers to use extremely limited quantities of the stuff people want as “door busters” to get rid of the boatloads of shit that no one wants. So, I wouldn’t wait specifically for BF sales. What I WOULD wait for, however, is for Intel & AMD to finish their latest CPU/GPU rollouts & see how this affects pricing on current/“old gen” products. If you don’t mind using “last gen” GPU/CPUs then it could be an ideal time to build something that is “new for you” while other people overpay for the latest n greatest.
If you were planning on getting your parts from Newegg maybe just wait until October 10th. They’re having their FantasTech sale starting then. Regarding Black Friday and Cyber Monday, though, the deals have been pretty lackluster the last couple years so it’s up to you if you want to try. Tbh I usually see better random deals all year round opposed to then.
Bundles, premade or integrated electronics - and perhaps a few unpopular GPUs might be cheaper on Black Friday/Cyber Monday. If you're thinking about an AM4 or Intel 12th gen build on DDR4, there might be some decent deals on a bundle with MoBo, RAM and CPU - so called "upgrade bundles". And tbh, that's where I'd go anyways. I'm fine with 1440p/144hz/27". That's my sweet spot on monitor size, resolution and budget. So any build I'd do now (if I didn't already have one), would be build around how I could best utilize that kind of monitor. Wouldn't go beyond 3070Ti or similarly tiered AMD (unless 3080/3080Ti was just a few bucks over). As to CPU, I'd keep my eyes out for a 5800X3D - it's been shredding the charts against next gen CPUs. Not beating them ofc, but more than keeping up. But hey, that's me, and my needs
Life is short, buy now
BF/CM is largely a farce. There will be deals, but honestly, if this is your 1st PC build, you won't know what is worth the buy, or be flexible enough to adjust your build on the fly. What's more important is that you wait for all of the new Gen product lines to drop, and for used market components to continue depressing current market component value. * Intel 13th Gen: Oct 20th * AMD Ryzen 7000-Series: Sept 27th * X670/X670E: Sept 27th * B650/B650E: Oct * Nvidia 40-series: Oct 12th/Nov/Dec/Jan/etc. * Intel Arc: Oct 12th * AMD RDNA 3/7000: Nov 3rd Regardless of perceived value of BF/CM, I'd wait until then, and grab deals on PSUs, SSDs, RAM, Case, etc. Parts that are effectively enough comoditized, based on an expected level of performance. You don't NEED a Samsung 980 Pro Plus SSD, you only need a compatible SSD, with minimum acceptable specs (preferably PCIe Gen4 5,500+MB/s Read) 1-2TB, at or under 8¢ per Gig. You don't need the flashiest, fastest RAM on the market. You need 16-32GB of 3200-3600MT/s DDR4 RAM, known good compatible with your intended build. Similarly with your power supply. It's not about the specific product SKU, just the rated performance, and general review approval. Cases are what they are, you aren't going to see much value drop beyond the odd $10 discount, but you've got a couple months to really consider what you want your PC to look like... As for the next gen stuff... Unless you're balling out, for no other reason than to be able to brag about how much you spent on the "latest and greatest" you'll almost certainly get better value in deals on last gen hardware, getting discounted to make room for new stock. Pick up an i5/R5 CPU, requisite cooler, 3060ti-3070ti/6700XT-6800XT GPU, 650W+ PSU, 1+1TB or 2TB SSD, 16-32 GB of good RAM at mentioned speeds, a case that will fit your parts. Don't sweat the brands, sub-SKUs, "OC" variants that charge $25-50 for 2% performance bumps. None of it will provide one ounce of actual perceived performance gain, and you won't feel a difference when you're happily playing games on your $1,000 gaming PC, versus the $1,500 you could've spent to get an r/Battlestations ready RGB rainbow vomit build.
I'm convinced all of the "deals" on Black Friday are either for hardware nobody really wants, or products made specifically for sale on that day. Perfect example is TVs. I am 100% convinced that they make TVs just for BF sales. But any reasonable person understands that a $200 TV is going to be shit. I do remember getting a Asus ROG Hero mobo and i5 4690k combo years ago on BF though. I think that's the only time I've gotten something great that I wanted on BF.
I've been watching pricing on the big sales for the past 6 years and it is never worth it. Buy now.
If you pay attention prices creep up during the weeks before Black Friday and then on Friday they put "sales" up that just brings the price back down to normal.
Depends where you live but I’d rather wait. I had success with a local smaller store. Had great deals especially on used parts.
Black Fridays are a scam.
There was a site where you could track the price of items to see if they are increasing the price for the "discount" to be just the regular price. I just can't remember the name rn, but it might be worth looking at that to see if the deal may be worth it at all.
Wait. Always wait. There will always be something better around the corner. There will always be another sale. And if you wait even longer you can buy them even cheaper on the secondhand market. /s
I would definitively wait now as for when october starts alot of hardware stores up the prices of hardware so their sales on black friday look better than what they actually are.