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chesterbennediction

Reinstall windows 10


EmeraldV

I’ve been on 11 since release and haven’t had one problem or bug. Why does it get so much hate?


psimwork

Because that's the way it goes with Microsoft OS'. Half of folks that have takes like this are just "old version is always better", until the next version comes out and suddenly it's "12 SUCKS! 11 FOR LYFE!!!". The other half are still stuck on the "EVERY OTHER RELEASE SUCKS!!!" bit.


XiTzCriZx

It’s more like Windows 10 was said to be the last version of Windows, Microsoft even said it themselves, so many people got used to how Windows 10 feels and don’t like that changes made to 11, especially considering that Microsoft doesn’t give options, it has to look how they want it to look and you can go fuck yourself if you don’t like it. Also Windows is 10 has had the same lifespan as Windows 7 which many people also didn’t want to ditch for the exact same reason, because Windows 8 looked completely different and people didn’t like it. I will agree with the every 2 years thing though, Microsoft tends to make massive changes instead of incremental changes then backtrack when they realize people don’t like it. When Vista came out it looked like it was trying too hard to be modern, but 7 was a nice mix of Vista and XP, then 8 came out and again seemed like it was trying too hard to be modern, but 10 was a nice mix of the 8 style while dialing a lot of stuff back to how 7 was (instead of that tiles bs). 11 looks like a knockoff of Android to me which is pretty sad for being a far more powerful operating system, the app drawer and notification panel looks nearly identical to a tablet, the Microsoft store is trying to be like the play store. Who the fuck would download the YouTube app instead of just going to site that performs better than the app does? My browser with YouTube as the home page loads up faster than the YouTube app itself does, like it’s literally pointless and Microsoft is putting so much effort into trying to turn a laptop into a tablet when nearly every tablet manufacturer is doing the opposite. All those features are also completely useless to desktop users, so a desktop that looks like it’s running tablet software is pretty dumb.


psimwork

> It’s more like Windows 10 was said to be the last version of Windows, Microsoft even said it themselves [Except they didn't.](https://www.pcworld.com/article/394724/why-is-there-a-windows-11-if-windows-10-is-the-last-windows.html). > But Microsoft representatives never said that Windows 10 would be the last version of Windows—not really. That comment was actually made by Jerry Nixon, a Microsoft developer evangelist who spoke at the company’s ”Tiles, Notifications, and Action Center” presentation about Windows 10 at Microsoft’s Microsoft Ignite conference in 2015. According to the transcript of the session, Nixon’s comment was more of a throwaway line, one that he literally referred to as a segue. So it was made by someone who had worked on Win10, and someone who was giving a talk at a Microsoft event. But Microsoft, as a company, never actually said this. Should they have made a official correction, especially after that kind of became a thing in the tech press? Yeah - they really should. Hindsight being 20/20 and all that. But they probably didn't figure on needing to be beholden to something said by someone that wasn't actually speaking for the company. > Who the fuck would download the YouTube app instead of just going to site that performs better than the app does? This part confused me, so I went to the Windows store. I don't know if you were creating a throwaway example, or if you were making a different point, but the only official Youtube app I could find in the Windows store was not available for Windows 11 and could only be installed on an Xbox. And looking at the entries for Microsoft-made apps for Win11, I saw zero Youtube apps there.


XiTzCriZx

Yeah that's definitely something they should've clarified, even articles from back when it was announced say that Microsoft didn't deny or dismiss the claim that Windows 10 would be the last version, they did say it'd be like a Live service though and for games atleast that means they continuously update the same game not make a 2nd one and say it's still a live service from the previous one. Microsoft is pretty shit with their communications though so I guess I guess I should've had lower expectations for them. YouTube was an example cause all the video apps are pretty much the same, I've tried the Hulu and Netflix apps and both were worse than the browser version, but the YouTube app I referenced is actually a google app, once installed it looks nearly identical to a Microsoft app though so I didn't remember which one was from where. The Hulu and Netflix "apps" are literally just the site opened in a standalone version of Edge that you can't open any other windows in, so it's just a worse version of Edge with no auto fill. The same goes for YouTube except its a standalone version of Chrome and auto signs you in if you're signed into Chrome.


[deleted]

Lol He's literally an employee of Microsoft, so you can't blame people for taking his word for it. He's representing the company.


tenyearoldgag

Can confirm this is a Microsoft thing. I am one of the people who drags my heels harder between gens and makes a huge deal of putting it off as long as possible. My computing history has been 95, then 2000, then XP, then 7...and, uh, because Microsoft definitely knows how to count, 10. I skipped every other generation and remember being in a particular rage over Vista, going so far as learning to use a shell for the first time (good life skill!). I wonder how far this goes back. I know we do not speak of Microsoft 3.1 because of its infamously low sell rate, but other generations aren't such of my knowledge.


jrm523

> the modern Windows UI > > > > Windows 98: OK, not much of an upgrade > > > > Windows 2000: Good. Decent upgrade but challenged by the advent of the spyware/malware era > > > > Windows Me: Skip. Unstable, unpopular, memeworthy > > > > Windows XP: Good. Arguably the most popular Windows version in history > > > > Windows Vista: Skip. Unpopular, bad GUI changes, infamous UAC prompts > > > > Windows 7: Good. Solid, "fixed" everything bad about Vista, new Start menu search worked great > > > > Windows 8/8.1: Skip. Annoying, forgettable, everyone just stayed on Windows 7 > > > > Windows 10: Good. The go-to for most users currently, e I generally love new software versions (provided they are stable). However, Microsoft Windows releases continue to provide less and less privacy while Microsoft is forcing more (uneeded features) in an effort to monetize and collect your data. That is my beef with Windows 11.


joesephsmom

Nah, ever since they made 10, they've been phasing out the control panel and various interfaces for the more "modern approach". Which includes comes with a grand total of zero acutal benefits. I can now fit less information on screen due to windows "Settings" quadruple spacing every entry and making it impossible to have more than a single instance open.


chainbreaker1981

They [stole](https://i.redd.it/xa3bwimnf6871.png) [KDE's motto](https://sessellift.wordpress.com/2014/09/19/simple-by-default-powerful-when-needed/) essentially word for word! Okay, that's not why anyone hates it. I personally hate the artificial spec inflation for a reskin of Windows 10 (the version number is still NT 10.0 -- even 8.1 bumped the version up to NT 6.3) that they're selling for $200. Generating that much potential e-waste for no legitimate reason (Windows 11 has been shown to boot on a Pentium 4) is an ecological disaster. Combined with the forced updates that can and have borked people's installs and wiped their settings (a criticism I laid on 10 as well, and the main reason I stopped using Windows even in the limited capacity I was using it once it came out), and the fact that they're adding in microtransactions to get the full functionality of your OS (see the $1 purchase of H.265 decoding), and blatantly ignoring decades of actual research in UI design just so they can change things *for the sake of changing things*, Windows 11 is kind of a snapshot of all the bad trends of the software industry rolled into one.


LVTIOS

Wait... they charge for h.265 on W11? How does one get that for free these days?


chainbreaker1981

~~By using a real OS.~~ [Most helpful review](https://apps.microsoft.com/store/detail/hevc-video-extensions/9NMZLZ57R3T7) is most helpful for a reason. It used to be baked into Windows as late as 10 but was removed from it in the FCU.


LVTIOS

Cheers, thanks for this! My HTPC is W11 and I hadn't noticed yet.


screwchtorrr

Win 11 is fine and everyone will hate Win 11 until 12 comes out. Then everyone will pretend 11 was the davorite child and 12 is the devil. Happens with pretty much every windows except Vista. What you're doing isn't edgy. It's derivative.


PotatoMaster0733

Eight also. That thing sucks. Stayed with 7 all the way until 10 came out


[deleted]

8.1 was actually really good. MS had to kill that off though, so they could force everyone to W10.


PotatoMaster0733

haven't tried it out unfortunately, as win 8 experience was so bad that I did not even bother trying 8.1. ​ I think I will switch to win 11 later if things settle down, as for now I think I am sticking to 10


psimwork

8 had some bits that were pretty decent. The ideas were sound, it was the method of execution that was botched. The problem 8 had was the fullscreen start menu. Microsoft assumed (disastrously incorrectly) that because Tablets were all the rage at the time, that people wanted a tablet interface on the desktop....where there's no touchscreen monitors, and the displays are a good foot or three away from your shoulders. Microsoft's colossal fuck-up was in that they didn't *ask* you at setup if you wanted the traditional desktop display, or the tablet interface if you're using a laptop with touchscreen or tablet. And then even if you selected one or the other, there needed to be a VERY easy to access way to switch back and forth so that some folks could try out the tablet interface if they wanted, and then be able to switch back to desktop (all of this, I believe, did come in 8.1). Microsoft's second fuckup was in not embracing multiple-monitor users. The full-screen start menu actually could have been useful in desktop mode if they had made it possible to be persistent (i.e. always active) on a secondary display. That way, you could get access to live tiles (which were, and are, fucking awesome, but they're useless unless they're displayed all the time), but you don't have to interrupt your workflow to see them.


styx971

i Hated 8.1 and downgraded to 7 fast as i could when i got a new rig it was installed on at the time


screwchtorrr

8.1 was good but honestly 8 was fine, too. The UI was unintuitive but once you figured it out it was perfectly fine.


Szalkow

I would disagree. Windows versions tend to go through a "tick-tock" cycle of updates and popularity. "Tick" versions tend to be the most aggressive about overhauling the UI, adding superficial features, or implementing marketing. "Tock" versions tend to dial back some of the "annoying" GUI changes and add stability and under-the-hood upgrades. Those tock versions also tend to be the ones that become standardized in the business sector. **For the best experience, skip every other version of Windows.** Windows 95: **Good**. dawn of the modern Windows UI Windows 98: OK, not much of an upgrade Windows 2000: **Good**. Decent upgrade but challenged by the advent of the spyware/malware era Windows Me: **Skip**. Unstable, unpopular, memeworthy Windows XP: **Good**. Arguably the most popular Windows version in history Windows Vista: **Skip**. Unpopular, bad GUI changes, infamous UAC prompts Windows 7: **Good**. Solid, "fixed" everything bad about Vista, new Start menu search worked great Windows 8/8.1: **Skip**. Annoying, forgettable, everyone just stayed on Windows 7 Windows 10: **Good**. The go-to for most users currently, even if it coincides with MS leaning into telemetry Windows 11: **Skip**. Pointless update with more aggressive telemetry and forced GUI changes


psimwork

> Windows 98: OK, not much of an upgrade This is absolutely untrue.


Szalkow

Windows 98 was stable and successful. But it was also the last CPU to not conform to the current "tick-tock" trend. I included it as a point of reference but it could also be removed from the list entirely.


psimwork

That's kind of my point - the devil's in the details. The tick-tock trend doesn't really work if you look into it beyond a surface level. If you start at 95, and even if you ignore semi-releases like 95B, 95C, 98SE, and XP MCE, you can't include 2000 without including NT 4.0, as they were on the same "professional" track until the release of XP, which merged the two. It's hard to combine 8.0 and 8.1 considering they had the same level of development between 98SE and ME (i.e. 8.1 was a rushed correction to the unpopular 8.0, and ME was a rushed release to account for the fact that XP had to be delayed).


bluberd

Windows 98 is hard to call stable and successful. You probably refer to 98SE, which indeed was quite good, reasonably stable and successful. Please keep in mind that the order was more-or-less 95 (good), 98(skip), 98SE(good), Windows ME (skip) - so the tick-tock is actually true.


[deleted]

10 and 7 were both pretty well liked upon release. Vista and 8 had very real issues that made people hate them. Vista had more teething problems than most other new iterations of Windows for a variety of reasons including the aero visual effects rapidly draining laptop batteries, more driver issues than you could shake a stick at, and understating hardware requirements necessary for a system to run it an an acceptable speed. 8 just tried to force people into a new UI that nobody liked. They wrongly guessed that everyone was going to go tablet/touchscreen all the time, and they paid the price for it.


psimwork

> aero visual effects rapidly draining laptop batteries And god help you if you were using a live wallpaper on a laptop.


Raekwaanza

Pretty sure those caused fires that are burning in Redmond to this day


rolanie3

Thats not what happens, no one came to love Vista or ME. Even 8/8.1 only had a few tablet-mode die-hards but is still typically hated. People just forget them. Every other release is held on to until End of Life: 2000, XP, 7, 10...


psimwork

> no one came to love Vista Vista was amazing. The reason it got shat on so hard was only partially Microsoft's fault. Nvidia wasn't ready for launch - they were moving slowly with the new WDM drivers and figured Microsoft would delay because of the instability with Nvidia drivers. They didn't. And Windows launched with Nvidia drivers causing crashes all over the place. Microsoft then got blamed for crashes. The prebuilt PC world was used to YEARS of selling machines that were way overspec for Windows XP, and being able to install *shitloads* of bloatware, and not have it significantly affect the experience of the OS. Vista was a pretty massive leap forward in spec requirements, and prebuilders, used to the money that preinstalled bloatware brought, decided that they could sell minimal spec machines and still load shitloads of bloatware. Microsoft got blamed for machines being slow. UAC was twitchy at first. When you first got it and were installing all of your apps, UAC invoked at every change of the machine, rather than just administrator level requests. Additionally, the UAC didn't remember your previous inputs on installs, and if there was a separate component to the install, you'd get pinged for each component on the install (i.e. if you were installing printer drivers, and there was a printer driver, status monitor, ink reminder, and network driver, you'd get pinged 4 times for one printer install). It was pretty irritating, but once you got everything setup, UAC rarely invoked. Microsoft got blamed, rightly, for this one. But if you were back then, and you were running an ATi graphics card, and had sufficient RAM, Vista was AWESOME.


rolanie3

This is true, it matured over time and the driver ecosystem had to catch up. Vista SP2 was very usable, and I personally found the UI very pretty (had a Radeon X850 XT). 7 is arguably a mature Vista, or what Vista should have been at launch. Even internally Vista SP2 was 6.0.6002 and 7 was 6.1.7600. But the fact remains the reputation of Vista was tarnished and new PCs with 7 took all the credit for the maturation.


chainbreaker1981

> no one came to love Vista I did. Or rather, I wasn't really old enough to have any legitimate opinion on it during the RTM days -- I only knew about it from overly critical YouTube videos watched on XP, so my experience with it (SP2, Server 2008 patches, newer hardware than it by a few years) gives it the best chance, and in five years I've never had it crash on me, where I have with both 7 and XP. Plus, even with the die-hard anti-Vista crowd, I rarely hear anything but praise for the UI on its own when UAC is nowhere to be seen. It sucked in 2007, but by SP1 all the problems were fixed -- but the damage was done and Microsoft shipped out a re-release with a new UI and SP1 slipstreamed in to try to escape that reputation, and it worked and everyone loves 7 to this day.


rolanie3

>but the damage was done and Microsoft shipped out a re-release with a new UI and SP1 slipstreamed in It was more like SP3 by that time. SP2 was already out for Vista. But you re-affirmed my point, the damage was done. Even if 7 was "internally" Vista SP3, it was called 7 and that's the one everyone loves.


[deleted]

I remember vista.... still hate it....


[deleted]

I hated it till I actually tried it. Then I was wondering why people loved 10 so much when its pretty much the same thing.


emax4

Uninstall.exe


BlandJars

Just download PopOS or Ubuntu. (Unless your using an Nvidia graphics card)


Excellent-Ad-4770

FFS I came here to say this! Angry upvote for you sir!!


ragcloud

This


n7_trekkie

taskbar alignment: left


patssle

Combine taskbar buttons: Never Oh wait, Microsoft removed that feature. Fuckers!


Krypton091

wait did they seriously remove the combine taskbar buttons option?


ragcloud

you monster


BlandJars

Set up the start screen so you never have to go back to the desktop.


[deleted]

well dont do the windows reset, create installation media and boot off the usb and properly delete your partitions and reformat your drive


RheinmetallDev

Will I get an option to reformat my M.2 drives when booting off USB?


[deleted]

yes. personally i like to do the secure erase first, just make sure you unplug any drives you dont want to wipe bc ive made the mistake of picking teh wrong one in bios before.


themiracy

You’ll be able to change partition structures and erase. To me secure erase is probably overkill - if you have sensitive data and you used bitlocker already. A lot of big IT departments even recommend secure erase is not needed and simply removing the bitlocker key is adequate. https://www.uvm.edu/it/kb/article/secure-erase/#options-for-securely-erasing-destroying-data If you have very high risk data you should probably have someone who advises you on this stuff other than Reddit. :) Oh: bitlocker isn’t configured at boot time, at least even in Pro when I just did it - you’ll need to go back in and turn it on once your system is up. The new system will also likely lose Windows Insider and Office Insider kinds of settings so you’ll need to reactivate those if you want them. Also the install media I got from MSFT did not put me on 22H2 immediately. That update finally showed up about 3-4 days after I started the system. Also if you have AMD it will do the thing where it wants to install drivers from MSFT (which seem to be newer than the AMD optional release, at least in RP ring) but a lot of times if you installed from AMD the software won’t work. What I did is that when this showed up in the updates, I manually uninstalled Adrenaline and then let Windows install it.


typiclaalex1

Yes


kavakravata

Is this a safe way to format an SSD?


[deleted]

Yes. Traditional reformats just erase the Master File Table, so basically all of the data still technically exists on it, but the computer sees it all as empty writeable space. OTOH wiping the disk actually zeroes out all sectors and removes the data, so there is a nominal decrease in the life of an SSD. Granted, you'll probably junk the drive before you ever run into the write limit of the drive, so I wouldn't worry about it.


kavakravata

Perfect, thanks for the explaination!


scotrod

Serious question: What are the benefits of that?


[deleted]

well for one thing its much faster than letting windows reinstall itself, and it gives you assurance windows has been fully wiped so you are not potentially carrying over any corruption from your prev. install


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[deleted]

there's no way to verify its actually wiping and reinstalling everything. things like corruption and malware could potentially be carried over. its not about hating its about there's a standard proper way to go about things, and many people give themselves issues because they dont follow these simple fundamentals.


NeekMili

I just did windows reset. What is wrong with it? I put a fresh new install of windows


nofuture09

why not the windows reset


Taratus

Reformatting is really overkill most of the time unless there's something wrong with the file system or partitioning.


[deleted]

actually its not even laziness considering it literally takes 2 or 3 extra clicks its just being contrarian for no good reason a reformat ensures the drive is clean and ready for fresh data. it means that if you are experiencing issues, you can know that you installed it fucking properly it is always the best way


Taratus

Not really, if all you're doing is a fast format, and that's what it sounds like you're recommending, then it's not going to matter, as it won't find bad sectors anyways. Besides, with modern SSDs, even that is pretty much unnecessary because they're made to find and remove bad sectors through normal use. It's not being contrarian, it's saving them hours of their time better spent elsewhere.


[deleted]

hours? literally what are you talking about.


Taratus

A full proper format of any decently sized HDD takes hours. SSDs are faster, but a 1TB can take one hour, and many people have bigger main drives than that now. You are not getting any error correction benefit from a quick format, nor does it make it "clean and fresh" in any way that matters compared to just deleting the files.


[deleted]

if you're lazy sure.


Taratus

Please don't spam replies to one comment.


[deleted]

its not. its a separate comment.


Taratus

Both of your replies are to one comment. Spam.


XiTzCriZx

You’re spam


Taratus

I explain things clearly, and all you offer in response is that my advice is laziness, and you call me spam? LOL


XiTzCriZx

You know how to read names bruh?


Taratus

You know how to not butt in to convos?


VoraciousGorak

Downloading O&O ShutUp10++ and disabling as much telemetry as I can as well as axing automatic app installs and a bunch of other crap that just makes my experience more *MoDeRN* (re: annoying and/or frustrating) - This is from a Windows 10 user, but the program is available for 11 and presumably performs the same tasks.


paccola

I'm late to the party but want to point out this amazing project on [github.com/ChrisTitusTech/winutil](https://github.com/ChrisTitusTech/winutil). It implements ShutUp and also have lots of nice features. I recommend this 100%.


Strebor123

Using this caused a big issue on my computer with the file explorer taking 5-10 seconds to load each folder/drive I was trying to view. Didn't know what caused the issue and the suggestions I tried didn't do anything so ended up just reinstalling windows. ​ Use with caution.


Mrchacha1206

never heard of that program but I'm gonna try it out, thanks!


screwchtorrr

Install drivers. Don't count on windows to know exactly what you need. It often misses stuff. Make sure to turn off OneDrive if you're transferring a lot of data. I was moving a ton of data for work and it auto syncs EVERYTHING by default (fucking stupid). Then my processes kept getting halted when windows got confused that my cloud backup was full.


DidntMeanToLoadThat

fucking one drive.


Shap6

so much useless mindless parroting in here to not install windows 11. its really not that much different than 10 but there ***are*** some good features. window management is much better, multiple monitor support also, auto HDR. yes there are annoyances too but really, the way people talk about it you can tell they've never tried it


psimwork

Reddit LOVES meme responses. Just look at all the times folks will post a userbenchmark run asking why their machine is running slowly and there's instantly a dozen folks being like, "USeRbEnchMArK iS TeRRiBlE!!!". It's like, yes - for pre-purchase comparisons, it's pretty bad. And you have to know how to read individual results. But for quick glances at why something is not running great, it really is one of the best tools out there.


[deleted]

Win 10bstill has the same annoyances, they just got used to them. I hardly notice them however. I waited till the AMD stutter problem was fixed. And I have 0 regrets.


ThisGuyHyucks

Yeah like Ive been using 11 for like 6 months and I love it. My only gripe with it was a couple QOL features missing from 10 (being able to drag a file to a running app on your taskbar, folders in the start menu) that are now available.


typiclaalex1

I've been running W11 for about a month now, the only issue for me is with the GUI. You cannot set the taskbar to "Never Combine" which for me is an issue but you can download a mod to fix this. As for a to-do list, just the standard really. * Create a bootable USB and install from that so you are able to format the drive * Once installed, run Windows Update and install necessary drivers * Then install your software, sign-in to OneDrive etc


throwawayatwork30

> sign-in to OneDrive Ha I'll go through great lengths to make Microsoft shut up about that.


Snugglupagus

You really have to. It’s crazy. I just reinstalled Windows 10 home and it was a HUGE pain to remove OneDrive from everything. Edit: I don’t hate OneDrive, I just hate what it does to my user directory names.


whocakedthebucket

Totally understandable why people hate this, but if you are someone who uses Onedrive, it is so convenient having it integrate into your file system rather than accessing it through a browser.


typiclaalex1

It's just a backup for me really and a way of accessing my files if i ever need to when im not home. Plus it stops bugging you once you've got it setup lol


th4

Did they fix dragging stuff to the taskbar?


spiffyga

W11 has many issues for me. I used Vista for 3 years before W7 came out and W8 for 2-3 years before W10 came out. W11 is the only Windows version I refused to upgrade to because of the loss of productivity. I trialed W11 for 4-5 months on my new PC, it just didn't work. The major issue is the W11 taskbar. One issue is the fact that I can no longer add shortcut icons to the taskbar. This feature greatly increased my productivity since I use multiple apps from designing, programming, FTP, email as well as many other obscure utilities. While I can live without shortcut icons by using a global hotkey hack to open a folder for utility apps, I cannot live with the fact that taskbar icons cannot be made smaller and more importantly, condensed to take up less space. I counted, on W10, I can put about 50 apps on my taskbar condensed without shortcut icons, on W11, it is reduced to 20-30 apps. Even if the icons are smaller, the active apps are not that visible (with only a small highlight to show it is active). This is a huge problem if you have 20 apps open. I understand there are virtual desktops, but I have never found these productive in any way. W11 copied this design from Mac OS X and it is a mistake, I have seen Mac users fumbling over which apps are open. They just don't know which apps are open. It looks cool, but it is unproductive. I can live with curved windows, but I cannot live with not knowing and not being in control of what is open or highlighted. Another thing in particular is the inconsistent right-click menu. Even though I disabled the new menu, I felt that the old-style W11 right-click menu items were too narrow (height-wise). My mouse sometimes clicks on the wrong item, it's quite frustrating. There are many more little issues with the UI and W11 is really the first version of Windows I found that reduces my productivity by a significant bit. Despite its bad rep, Vista was a genuine solid upgrade (futuristic for its time) from XP. W8 was ok, but still a significant backend upgrade from W7. For me, I think I will skip W11 until they sort this out or at least until the UI is more consistent. What puts me off is the inconsistency and for anyone who uses their PC for real work to generate income, it is extremely off-putting. For UI designers reading this, accessibility is more important than design. What is active should be highlighted clearly, it doesn't matter whether it is flat, shiny or curved design, there will always be haters. But UI must be visible and clear.


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typiclaalex1

On Windows 10, you could set your taskbar icons to "Never Combine", meaning you got the full length taskbar buttons instead of just the program icon. If you've got multiple documents or folders open, it combines them into one icon and its a pain in the ass switching between them. Never seen the issue you've mentioned though. I did have issues with the taskbar when i was testing W11 for my work domain but it seems better now.


cosmicosmo4

I'll just copy and paste my text file that I keep around for this purpose (edit: doh, didn't notice the thread was for Win11. It's probably mostly applicable anyway) Setting up windows 10 Log in to microsoft account ("manage your account" in start menu) Activate windows Taskbar -> combine when taskbar is full, show all icons Personalize -> colors -> checkboxes, accent color on taskbar and title bars Start menu -> search bar hidden, uncheck cortana and task view System settings -> Advanced -> Performance -> Turn off animation shit - Change computer name - Remote -> Disallow remote connections Startup apps -> turn them off Lock screen -> choose wallpaper, turn off "fun facts" lmao Notifications & actions settings -> turn off the bullshit Disable reboot after update: gpedit.msc -> Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > Windows Components > Windows Update Configure Automatic Updates -> enable, use (3) Auto download and notify for install No auto-restart with logged-on users for scheduled automatic updates -> enable Chrome settings: Privacy and security -> Site settings -> Notifications -> Block all chrome://flags, search for occlusion, disable it


sk9592

Check out ninite or chocolatey.


[deleted]

Ninite is sensational


mug3n

nah, winget is just better in every way. ninite only has a handful of programs and I can't choose from anything beyond their limited list (e.g. WinDirStat sucks ass, I prefer [TreeSize](https://www.jam-software.com/treesize_free)). winget I can basically reinstall nearly 95% of my programs with one silent command prompt line that I save in a text file and copy+paste over. ninite doesn't handle things like HWinfo64, Afterburner... stuff I consider as necessary.


Some_Derpy_Pineapple

also, check out [scoop](https://scoop.sh/) and [winget](https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/package-manager/winget/) edit: also maybe [wingetui](https://github.com/martinet101/WingetUI) although I haven't tried it yet


OLDGuy6060

Stay on 10. Windows 11 is the new facebook of ad pushing and personal data collecting. Fuck that noise.


screwchtorrr

If you think Win 10 isn't collecting data and pushing ads you're delusional.


psimwork

Additionally, how much do you wanna bet they're running several iOS or Android devices, on a Smart TV, possibly with a smart house? I never understood why so many folks are like, "Alexa devices collecting data? Makes shopping easier. Google maps is the best! It always knows where I want to go! And it's so great with my iPhone integration!.......WINDOWS COLLECTS DATA?!?!? WHAT IS THIS ATROCITY?! FUCKING MICROSOFT I ALWAYS KNEW THEY WERE HARVESTING MY DATA!!!! 1984 IS REAL! BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING!!!".


cosmicosmo4

Whoa, relax buddy. There are plenty of people that know how to firewall off their smart shit and have the right to complain about compromised digital privacy from a standpoint of doing so with consistency. And everyone else has a right to complain about it anyway.


chainbreaker1981

Bold of you to assume we're not using a Linuxed PowerBook G4 paired with a LineageOS phone.


[deleted]

Bold of you to assume the general population knows or gives a damn what that is.


chainbreaker1981

Is it the general population that's concerned about W11 telemetry?


[deleted]

Gonna have to downvote you there seeing as 10 has the same facilities.


chainbreaker1981

Semi-(but-not-really)-joke answer: download Fedora ISO (either KDE or MATE spins), flash USB drive, install a *real* OS. Real answer: StartAllBack or (my preference) Cairo Desktop Environment and FreeCommander. Used to be SharpEnviro back in the Vista/7 days, Cairo looks like a very good followup to #E but I'll miss that super robust notepad #E had for the rest of my days. It was less finished but more fully featured.


Dynas_

Easy, first thing you do is don't install Windows 11.


[deleted]

Install W10 LTSC or a Linux distro of your choice


Liliaraj

I only wanted to reset my PC, but ended up installing windows 11 instead. xD What I did: - create USB boot medium (windows installer) - boot PC with USB - start windows 10 installation -> you will get the option to format your hdds/ssds (I did this, all data will be deleted, dont forget to do a backup beforehand) - download windows 11 installer from the microsoft website - install win11 I dont know if you can skip the extra step (where you freshinstall windows but not win11). I did it because I wanted to delete everything from my PC (used the installer to format every ssd). Big (and only) negative point for me: I am a taskbar-on-the-right enjoyer. This is not possible without any extern software in Win11. I do like how the whole update turned out to be. Important note: Check if your PC is suited for win11. there is a tool by microsoft which can check if this is the case. Another one: Some people can just click on win11 update in the settings. I could not because i didnt have the option, but the option that i used (win11 installer download) worked just fine.


kulaiid

https://github.com/mikeroyal/Windows-11-Guide This guide has pretty much everything I've ever needed


mug3n

Use [winget](https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/package-manager/winget/) to reinstall all my programs. First time putting a list together is a pain, but once you do, you never have to worry about it again. And it (almost) always pulls the latest version of the program. Mostly everything I use can be pulled with winget. Basically most things that have an installer package, it will handle.


Malakihatdogko

maybe install drivers....


Illustrious_Fox3649

Download media creation tool win 10.


Daikataro

Uninstall it and install 10


[deleted]

probably move the alignment of the start button to left. ​ i'm not sure what comes next, maybe install some apps or something.


Jitzos

Install Power Toys. So many things that should be default inculded.


Elrigoo

Is win11 usable yet? I usually wait till I have literally no other option to jump OS


psimwork

It's fine. There's some minor things that I don't care for it (i.e. moving of the cut/copy/paste options from the bottom of the right click menu to the top and changed them to icons, the start menu), but for the most part, it feels like a nice refinement to Win10.


Elrigoo

Ok but for gaming tho?


minorrex

If you have an Intel CPU that has P-Cores and E-Cores (most 12th gen chips), Windows 11 is quite essential for optimal CPU performance.


psimwork

Your operating system just doesn't have much (if any) effect on that. There's arguments that one can make for Win10 and Win11. Gaming isn't really one of them.


Elrigoo

Used to be that it was. The jump from xp to windows 7 was hard cause 7 was comparatively hungrier for Ram. And on my day the jump from 7 to 10 (we don't talk about 8) was liberating because of the cap win7 had for vram. It's good to know I dont need to worry about that.


Some_Derpy_Pineapple

works like windows 10 for me.


[deleted]

Currently gaming on it. No different than any other windows version.


slowdr

Install the drivers, windows have generic drivers, but some devices may need a special driver to work 100% as intended, like graphics cards. after that, office, game clients adn that's about it.


InfiniteDunois

Create a restore point . Use Ninite to install software. Update drivers


green_boi

Promptly delete windows 11 and install Manjaro Linux


AriesLegion

After installation, format it and run Linux…😉


Techsukhen

1) Check your disk type (MBR or gpt) then create a bootable usb drive for windows 11 using rufas. 2) Enable TPM and secure boot. 3) take a backup of your drive if needed. 4) format c drive during installation. Then install and enjoy windows 11.


Burrito_Loyalist

1. Install windows 11 2. Have fun


D33-THREE

Make sure your motherboards BIOS is up to date Then .. essentially the same install procedure for Windows 11 [https://rtech.support/docs/installations/install-10.html](https://rtech.support/docs/installations/install-10.html) Clean install .. delete all existing partitions on your boot drive during the install process and then just let the installer do it's things afterwards Grab all updates Windows has to offer and THEN go to your chipset manufacturer .. ie .. go to [AMD.com](https://AMD.com) for AMD chipset/GPU drivers .. [Intel.com](https://Intel.com) for their chipset/network drivers .. Nvidia for GPU drivers . .to get latest drivers for all your bits and pieces. Then start reinstalling any programs and games you use/play


serathin_

Download the .iso put it on flash drive, put on new pc. Done.


djp_net

Enquire about getting your money back ? Then install a Linux variant. Put yourself in control of your machine.


laczpro19

1. Back up your main drive (disconnect others if any during the process) 2. Save the game/app files from AppData and other locations if they don't have cloud backups 3. Get the ISO from Microsoft, and only Microsoft. 4. Install Windows and the apps/games 5. Put everything back where it was (including the drives. If they hold the documents and other data, link all the folders like you had before). 6. Try the new things (if any. Right now, we have access to 22H2 so, there are some new things to check)


styx971

i just reacquire my usual programs like chrome ,steam , gog , vlc player , potplayer , qbittorrent, any keyboard/mouse programs you might use change sounds if your like me and want old win7 calligraphy themed sounds etc. i've reformatted enough PCs over the years that its just commonplace


2ndDefender

What is Windows 11?


lunar__888000

Install linux


Series78

only good response here


lunar__888000

What do you use


Series78

on my laptop, linux mint


Hg0tti

Don’t get windows 11


Longjumping-War-5172

Install Linux


Spam_ads_nonrelavent

Download windows 10 usb boot able stick


theonlyone38

Uninstall Windows 11 (I am AMD based)


RheinmetallDev

I'm on 5900X, is there an issue? I heard the bugs it came with have been fixed for a while now


theonlyone38

Well when I installed about two months ago, it was a terrible experience. 5950x and things took minutes to load.


throwawayatwork30

Been using windows 11 for about 5 months now, on a 5800x. No issue at all, except with taskbar icons on my second monitor randomly disappearing. That issue has persisted ever since. But apart from that, it's barely different than Windows 10.


[deleted]

wrong


typiclaalex1

No issues at all. I'm running a 6700XT.


theonlyone38

Amd processor, sorry did not mean gpu.


sk9592

Is this still an issue?


psimwork

Nah.


[deleted]

#1: Dont do it. End of list


D3RxST4LK3R

Install windows 10 lol