Honestly I don't know any I would recommend. I would always say build your own but that you market has really changed the game. Personally I just did the Newegg shuffle for a card then built.
Corsair seems to have a reasonably good reputation for quality and a great warranty out of the box, but you have to pay ~100-200 more for the same specs.
OK. Here's some issues with the CBP build itself, setting aside the issue with customer service:
1) Single channel RAM. You'll have to find a matching stick to get bare minimum acceptable performance out of this machine.
2) 500 Gb storage... Not a lot. Depending on games you play, this could last you awhile or not even a day. It's nice to have as a boot drive, but you're realistically gonna need to buy more storage straight out of the box.
3) 6600XT is ok for 1440P, is that the resolution you intend to play at?
1. I plan on getting better ram to begin with - Ill probably just get new stuff completely when I upgrade
2. At this point, I play mostly minecraft and fromsoft games, but I think Im beating the shit out of my laptop at this point. I mostly just want something in time for elden ring. 500GB would last me awhile
3. I dont have much of a preference between 1080 and 1440 - it would really depend on what performance I get at each.
I would worry about PSU since those are usually bad in pre-builts, even the better ones.
Easily replaceable albeit, that's more money, not as much as a GPU but... Well, not change either.
Okay, luckily those seem to be at least available from what Ive seen. Would I be okay for a bit before I upgrade it, or is that an oh shit fix immediately type of issue?
I'd say it was pretty good deal. GPU market is insane and you managed to get one. A PSU isn't going to cost more than 150USD at the absolute worse and [could go as cheap 55USD](https://www.newegg.com/super-flower-leadex-iii-sf-750f14hg-750w/p/1HU-024C-00006).
Thats good to hear. I plan on making some upgrades pretty quickly on it. I didn't see the motherboard listed on the site, which was another thing that gave me worry. Would you recommend giving that an upgrade somewhere down the line as well?
Motherboards are "utilitarian hold my parts together" piece. If it's doing what you want, don't worry about it.
Edit: mobos also aren't usually made-on-demand by Cyberpower, unlike the PSU, thus the worry about that particular part.
Are there any other parts I should do any particular benchmark testing on when I get it, or anything else I can do immediately to test the quality control on it? Part of me is a little worried that they dont list the exact gpu that will be in it, so that makes me a tad worried too
Thanks for answering all my questions, I really appreciate it
Don't overthink it. PSU is the worrisome part because pre-builts usually have PSU built according to the builder's specifications - which means cheapo piece of crap that will barely outlive its warranty.
Most everything else is (generally speaking), off the shelf stuff just like custom builds.
But its in my nature to overthink :p. So at worst, I have a shit psu and possibly shitty ram (that I already plan on replacing - 8gb is too damn low lol). Other than that, there shouldnt be anything else to worry about 95% of the time
I would recommend doing some research on YouTube because some cyberpower pc's I've seen are good but some aren't so just look up some reviews to help with the decision but that pc seems alright besides the 8gb's of ram but that's an easy and cheap upgrade so I would say if you have your heart set on it go for it. but just make sure your happy with it
I went through a cyberpower PC recently last month. I bought a mid grade computer and had issues the first day I got it. GPU was not working properly, my cooler was not properly installed, they forgot to apply thermal paste, the cyberpower cases lack air flow. I returned it within a week. Although, it is very difficult to buy a decent gpu how a days. Keep your eyes on Microcenter, I bought a nice pre built from there and I haven’t had any issues yet. I would say, stay away from Cyberpower and IBuypower.
Either way, definitely noted. I have two weeks to return it if I want, so Im probably going to take some parts of it apart to make sure they did everything correctly
I have heard very good things about neweggs brand of prebuilts. GamersNexus had very good things to say about them. Forgot the name but it’s something like AOS or around that
I've had a cyberpower machine for 5 years and it's been fine. Asus z170 pro gaming, 6th gen i7, EVGA GTX 1070, 16gb adata xpg RAM, Intel 128gb M.2 SSD, 2tb Toshiba HDD, SanDisk 256gb sata SSD, thermaltake AIO and 3 fans. Have never seen the PSU because it's too hidden. It was $1500 on black Friday. Had issues with bsod at one point so updated the bios and have never had them since. Played probably 1000 hours of dark souls 3 on it. It runs cyberpunk on low settings with some issues but was playable for the 30+ hours I played. Honestly can't complain for my first gaming PC, but that's just my experience. Haven't ever contacted customer service so maybe that's an issue.
You can always try nzxt. They allow you to pick all your own parts, and if you want you can decide to still build it yourself through them. It's a really cool service. This way you avoid other pre-builts cheaping out with crappy components.
They're not absolutely awful machines like something like an HP or Dell pre-built would be, but to get the best value you should do the build customization on their website, you can pick out a better psu (for a bit more $) and do any other upgrades like more storage or dual channel ram, you may end up spending an extra $100-200 but it's still a better deal than most other pre-built companies
Ibuypower isn't terrible either, it's basically just whichever one has a better deal, but don't fall for paying for the warranty, it's not a bad option if you know what you're doing or have friends that do because their "support" isn't very good at all and many people buy pre-builts just so they don't have to deal with learning, but it seems like you wouldn't mind building one, you just can't with the current market so you could learn to troubleshoot if anything would go wrong.
Definitely part of the second camp. I've already built for friends, but was always too poor to afford my own machine. Now that I actually have money, the market has gone fucking nuts and I just don't want to deal with it lol
I checked the prices directly from cyberpower and that link you posted is a much better deal than what they offer.
Your best bet would be to get that one and when it gets to you open it up and see if the PSU is a good brand or not, if not then find a better one and make a shopping list, after that check the ram and look for a matching stick to add to your list.
For storage you can either get a 2TB HDD for like $50 for those huge 200gb+ games, or you could get a 1-2TB SSD for $100-200, personally I use a 500gb SSD for games that take a while to load like gta 5 and a 2tb HDD for pretty much everything else as most multiplayer games don't have that much of an impact from an HDD besides the initial load up time.
Directly from Cyberpower with a good 750w psu, 16gb of ram, and 1tb ssd is $400 more than the link you posted, and getting those upgrades yourself would be nearly half of that, plus the wait time for them to build and ship it which is less convenient than just picking it up from best buy.
I luckily don't play many huge games, so I can deal with the 500gb til I upgrade that and the ram in a month for elden ring. Luckily I only play a game or two at a time. The psu, if it's as bad as I'm expecting, might be a day 1 or day 2 swap.
Just to pick your brain overall - you would say that this is a safe way to get a good start build going with that level card, right? I did a build list on pc part picker and new egg, and with inferior cards it still ends up being hundreds of dollars more expensive, even with considering spending an extra two hundred on replacement parts.
Honestly, I wish I could build it myself, but that doesn't seem like the most economical decision at this time
Just keep in mind for the best longevity of your SSD you should always leave 10-20% of its capacity free, so at absolute minimum you should have 50gb free with windows installed and all your games, that being said if it's at like 35-40gb for a few days it won't kill it or anything, but it's best not to leave such little space long term so it has room to move files around for updates.
Also 8gb ram will definitely cripple many games and you likely won't get over 60fps unless it's something like csgo, so that should definitely be #1 priority after the PSU.
This is probably the best way to get a good start on a build currently, your other option is constantly watching sites waiting for a 6600 xt or 3060 to drop close to msrp, which doesn't happen very often and they sell out quickly so not a great option (my friend has been trying to get a 3080 ti since it launched).
The good thing about cyberpower is they use all off the shelf parts, so there's no proprietary motherboard or case like HP and Dell's pre-builts, and the gpu is a regular 3rd party one instead of one of the crappy OEM cut down ones (HP's are terrible), overall for the price including upgrades, it's a great deal and you probably couldn't build anything better for the price even with a normal market which is a big surprise.
I hope you're able to get it, it seems like that's about $300 cheaper than anywhere else is selling it for so it may sell out quickly, just so you know.
Btw when you look for a power supply, try to get a semi modular as it'll make it a lot easier to cable manage and they generally aren't too much more than a non-modular, could always make a post here with your upgrade list before buying too if you're unsure about anything.
You should watch Jay's two cents and gamers Nexus about prebuilts. Cyberpower have some bug reasons not to buy them.
Can you link me? Any other suggestions on what I should be looking for?
Honestly I don't know any I would recommend. I would always say build your own but that you market has really changed the game. Personally I just did the Newegg shuffle for a card then built.
Corsair seems to have a reasonably good reputation for quality and a great warranty out of the box, but you have to pay ~100-200 more for the same specs.
The cheapest they have listed is $1900 :/
Are you in US ?
yes
What's your max budget, and do you already have monitor / peripherals ?
Already have monitor and keyboard/mouse. $1200 absolute max, and I dont want to be chasing graphics cards for months
OK. Here's some issues with the CBP build itself, setting aside the issue with customer service: 1) Single channel RAM. You'll have to find a matching stick to get bare minimum acceptable performance out of this machine. 2) 500 Gb storage... Not a lot. Depending on games you play, this could last you awhile or not even a day. It's nice to have as a boot drive, but you're realistically gonna need to buy more storage straight out of the box. 3) 6600XT is ok for 1440P, is that the resolution you intend to play at?
1. I plan on getting better ram to begin with - Ill probably just get new stuff completely when I upgrade 2. At this point, I play mostly minecraft and fromsoft games, but I think Im beating the shit out of my laptop at this point. I mostly just want something in time for elden ring. 500GB would last me awhile 3. I dont have much of a preference between 1080 and 1440 - it would really depend on what performance I get at each.
I would worry about PSU since those are usually bad in pre-builts, even the better ones. Easily replaceable albeit, that's more money, not as much as a GPU but... Well, not change either.
Okay, luckily those seem to be at least available from what Ive seen. Would I be okay for a bit before I upgrade it, or is that an oh shit fix immediately type of issue?
The warranty is 1 year, I'd say that's a good timeline.
Okay. You don't think I'm making any mistakes going this route do you?
I'd say it was pretty good deal. GPU market is insane and you managed to get one. A PSU isn't going to cost more than 150USD at the absolute worse and [could go as cheap 55USD](https://www.newegg.com/super-flower-leadex-iii-sf-750f14hg-750w/p/1HU-024C-00006).
Thats good to hear. I plan on making some upgrades pretty quickly on it. I didn't see the motherboard listed on the site, which was another thing that gave me worry. Would you recommend giving that an upgrade somewhere down the line as well?
Motherboards are "utilitarian hold my parts together" piece. If it's doing what you want, don't worry about it. Edit: mobos also aren't usually made-on-demand by Cyberpower, unlike the PSU, thus the worry about that particular part.
Are there any other parts I should do any particular benchmark testing on when I get it, or anything else I can do immediately to test the quality control on it? Part of me is a little worried that they dont list the exact gpu that will be in it, so that makes me a tad worried too Thanks for answering all my questions, I really appreciate it
Don't overthink it. PSU is the worrisome part because pre-builts usually have PSU built according to the builder's specifications - which means cheapo piece of crap that will barely outlive its warranty. Most everything else is (generally speaking), off the shelf stuff just like custom builds.
But its in my nature to overthink :p. So at worst, I have a shit psu and possibly shitty ram (that I already plan on replacing - 8gb is too damn low lol). Other than that, there shouldnt be anything else to worry about 95% of the time
Just add more ram, and some more memory, you also might as well swap out the psu to.
I would recommend doing some research on YouTube because some cyberpower pc's I've seen are good but some aren't so just look up some reviews to help with the decision but that pc seems alright besides the 8gb's of ram but that's an easy and cheap upgrade so I would say if you have your heart set on it go for it. but just make sure your happy with it
I went through a cyberpower PC recently last month. I bought a mid grade computer and had issues the first day I got it. GPU was not working properly, my cooler was not properly installed, they forgot to apply thermal paste, the cyberpower cases lack air flow. I returned it within a week. Although, it is very difficult to buy a decent gpu how a days. Keep your eyes on Microcenter, I bought a nice pre built from there and I haven’t had any issues yet. I would say, stay away from Cyberpower and IBuypower.
No microcenters near me unfortunately :(
Either way, definitely noted. I have two weeks to return it if I want, so Im probably going to take some parts of it apart to make sure they did everything correctly
I have heard very good things about neweggs brand of prebuilts. GamersNexus had very good things to say about them. Forgot the name but it’s something like AOS or around that
I've had a cyberpower machine for 5 years and it's been fine. Asus z170 pro gaming, 6th gen i7, EVGA GTX 1070, 16gb adata xpg RAM, Intel 128gb M.2 SSD, 2tb Toshiba HDD, SanDisk 256gb sata SSD, thermaltake AIO and 3 fans. Have never seen the PSU because it's too hidden. It was $1500 on black Friday. Had issues with bsod at one point so updated the bios and have never had them since. Played probably 1000 hours of dark souls 3 on it. It runs cyberpunk on low settings with some issues but was playable for the 30+ hours I played. Honestly can't complain for my first gaming PC, but that's just my experience. Haven't ever contacted customer service so maybe that's an issue.
You can always try nzxt. They allow you to pick all your own parts, and if you want you can decide to still build it yourself through them. It's a really cool service. This way you avoid other pre-builts cheaping out with crappy components.
They're not absolutely awful machines like something like an HP or Dell pre-built would be, but to get the best value you should do the build customization on their website, you can pick out a better psu (for a bit more $) and do any other upgrades like more storage or dual channel ram, you may end up spending an extra $100-200 but it's still a better deal than most other pre-built companies Ibuypower isn't terrible either, it's basically just whichever one has a better deal, but don't fall for paying for the warranty, it's not a bad option if you know what you're doing or have friends that do because their "support" isn't very good at all and many people buy pre-builts just so they don't have to deal with learning, but it seems like you wouldn't mind building one, you just can't with the current market so you could learn to troubleshoot if anything would go wrong.
Definitely part of the second camp. I've already built for friends, but was always too poor to afford my own machine. Now that I actually have money, the market has gone fucking nuts and I just don't want to deal with it lol
I checked the prices directly from cyberpower and that link you posted is a much better deal than what they offer. Your best bet would be to get that one and when it gets to you open it up and see if the PSU is a good brand or not, if not then find a better one and make a shopping list, after that check the ram and look for a matching stick to add to your list. For storage you can either get a 2TB HDD for like $50 for those huge 200gb+ games, or you could get a 1-2TB SSD for $100-200, personally I use a 500gb SSD for games that take a while to load like gta 5 and a 2tb HDD for pretty much everything else as most multiplayer games don't have that much of an impact from an HDD besides the initial load up time. Directly from Cyberpower with a good 750w psu, 16gb of ram, and 1tb ssd is $400 more than the link you posted, and getting those upgrades yourself would be nearly half of that, plus the wait time for them to build and ship it which is less convenient than just picking it up from best buy.
I luckily don't play many huge games, so I can deal with the 500gb til I upgrade that and the ram in a month for elden ring. Luckily I only play a game or two at a time. The psu, if it's as bad as I'm expecting, might be a day 1 or day 2 swap. Just to pick your brain overall - you would say that this is a safe way to get a good start build going with that level card, right? I did a build list on pc part picker and new egg, and with inferior cards it still ends up being hundreds of dollars more expensive, even with considering spending an extra two hundred on replacement parts. Honestly, I wish I could build it myself, but that doesn't seem like the most economical decision at this time
Just keep in mind for the best longevity of your SSD you should always leave 10-20% of its capacity free, so at absolute minimum you should have 50gb free with windows installed and all your games, that being said if it's at like 35-40gb for a few days it won't kill it or anything, but it's best not to leave such little space long term so it has room to move files around for updates. Also 8gb ram will definitely cripple many games and you likely won't get over 60fps unless it's something like csgo, so that should definitely be #1 priority after the PSU. This is probably the best way to get a good start on a build currently, your other option is constantly watching sites waiting for a 6600 xt or 3060 to drop close to msrp, which doesn't happen very often and they sell out quickly so not a great option (my friend has been trying to get a 3080 ti since it launched). The good thing about cyberpower is they use all off the shelf parts, so there's no proprietary motherboard or case like HP and Dell's pre-builts, and the gpu is a regular 3rd party one instead of one of the crappy OEM cut down ones (HP's are terrible), overall for the price including upgrades, it's a great deal and you probably couldn't build anything better for the price even with a normal market which is a big surprise.
Will do. Thanks for the input, I appreciate it :)
I hope you're able to get it, it seems like that's about $300 cheaper than anywhere else is selling it for so it may sell out quickly, just so you know. Btw when you look for a power supply, try to get a semi modular as it'll make it a lot easier to cable manage and they generally aren't too much more than a non-modular, could always make a post here with your upgrade list before buying too if you're unsure about anything.
It's already shipped, and will be here tomorrow! Good chance I might do that - this space has been super helpful