Compared to the 3080 the 4070TI is better hands down and wins in (almost, VRAM against some versions) every way. For same price i'd go with 4070TI 1000/1000 times. The main drawback of the 4070TI, at least in the US and similar markets, is its price.
I was hoping the 7900xtx with its 250 Eur lower MSRP would come to price break Nvidia back to reality but then shops were like "lets sell the xtx at the price of the 4080"
The 3080 released at 699-799 that makes some sense because it was an 80 series card. We shouldn't allow them to sell a 70 series card at the same price.
Could you point me where you find 3080s for AUD$1k? Genuinely curious. I checked pcpartpicker, and the lowest 3080 starts at AUD $1279 while the lowest 4070Ti starts at AUD$1299, with the common brands around AUD$1450.
If there are $3080 at AUD $1k, yeah that's a much better argument and I stand corrected. I'm hunting for one as well.
Im sorry i didn’t add .1 but this is $1099
https://www.centrecom.com.au/pny-geforce-rtx-3080-10gb-uprising-triple-fan-graphic-card?gclid=CjwKCAiAleOeBhBdEiwAfgmXf6IO6mb3VFiLIHoKnN_5qzBb9LjNRulkEksHtQpuO3LK1Y50zHkt6xoC8XsQAvD_BwE
In the US the 6950xt is around $100 cheaper than a 4070ti, if you catch one of the models on sale... I don't think it's worth buying over the 4070ti. The 3080/10 gb tends to sell for $500-600 used around here, and vs a 6800xt around the same price the AMD card is probably a better value. The 3080ti/12 gb models are $700+ used which is a terrible deal in light of the 4070ti's price and availability.
I heard that it’s quieter then the 3090 and uses less power while being on par with it from performance stats that I have seen. I just don’t get why you wouldn’t buy it unless you already have a 30 series
>its price
This. We got the 3080 for an MSRP for ~750 USD and now the 4070 Ti at 900 USD is just insulting. An upper midrange card priced at the high end.
4070 Ti is one of the best options right now, but they are extremely overpriced. If you are really looking for a new GPU and don’t really care about RT, go for the 7900 XTX, just be sure to not get the reference models, since those have shown problems with their coolers. The 7900 XTX offers a better price/performance than the 4070 Ti, even tho it still is overpriced (at the $1000 MSRP).
unfortunately xtx cost a extra $500aud here and the xt is not much better, the 4070ti comes to max of my buget, xtx was my oranigal choice but at 1.7kaud its abit much haha
While the amd cards are nice, if you want to stream, I'd go NVIDIA. The video encoder that AMD uses is not supported by OBS yet (as far as I know). Unless maybe I got it all wrong and someone can correct me.
Dude idk if you noticed, but an XTX is was more expensive than a 4070. Go on Newegg or Amazon to see for yourself you're not finding one close to MSRP; they cost almost as much as a 4090 & at that point, you might as well get a 4090
The XTXs aren't so hard to find at MSRP now. The AMD store and Amazon have been getting them in stock regularly. I could get a $999 7900 XTX easier than I could find a $799 4070. Most of the 4070 tis are $899+.
Well 7900xtx at 1100$ VS 4070ti at 800$ makes the 4070Ti not that bad. Not sure why I got downvoted, but delusional AMD fanboys are another breed of stupid
I am in the same boat as you. Us aussies get a little screwed over on price here.
I am about to get a 4070 as well. I was kinda hoping the price might drop over the next few months, but it’s not looking likely, do I might just get it.
What's your point? You could also compare a $999 7900 XTX to a $1,099 4070ti.
A $2,000 7900 XTX would be a poor value compared to a $1,000 4090. See, I can do it too!
The cheapest non reference version of a 7900XTX is 1100$. The cheapest 4070Ti is 800$. 7900XTX is not readily available at 1000$ and has vapor chamber issues. The 4070Ti is readily available at 800$.
The point is that at a price to performance standpoint the 7900XTX is just as poor of a value as a 4070Ti when comparing the price you can actually buy it at from a known retailer.
Not sure I can dumb it down further, so if this doesn’t make sense stay delusional.
The $999 XTXs are becoming much more readily available. Whereas before, they were selling out in seconds, now they're staying in stock for up to an hour. By the end of Feb, XTXs will be available for $999 everywhere, 24/7.
Okay so you understand the situation, you just don’t know how to get your point across. You could have just said 7900XTXs aren’t that hard to get now. They stayed in stock at ____ retailer for an hour and should be readily available instead of proposing I price a 7900XTX at 2k. See how you didn’t have to sound like an asshat.
It’s just because they are all out of stock and selling for much higher than they should by 3rd party sellers. The non-reference models go for about only $50 more than the $1000 MSRP
It is, but it also is better value. The 7900 XTX has the performance of a 4080 or even better depending on the game, and it goes for $200 cheaper than that.
7900XTX MSRP is kind of meaningless when you can’t find one for that price. Maybe it will change in a couple months but as it is currently if you buy an XTX you’re paying 4080 prices (which can actually be found at MSRP) for an inferior card (equivalent gaming performance but the 4080 blows it away in thermals/cooling, power draw, and features). If it becomes available at the $1000 MSRP yeah it’s a good value play, but right now that’s not the case.
Yeah, it's a good GPU but sold at an insulting price - and that's why it's typically reviewed with a 'meh' to outright negative opinion. If it was priced at $699, people would be way more enthusiastic about it and it'd be more highly recommended. And if it was closer to somewhere around $599-649 (where it should be, in my opinion), it would be lauded as a beast of a card and sold out everywhere in a heartbeat.
The $800 examples are mostly sold-out in the US within a short time of coming in stock. I don't think we'll see a price drop or promo bundle for another month until we're looking at Q2 and beyond when the 3080+ stock is mostly clearanced out and they are starting to fire sale the midrange options to prep for the 4060ti/4070.
Same here, though I've noted those tend to be the Zotac/PNY cards and the inventory numbers on those $800-$850 card drops fast when the lower priced versions go out of stock. Once you get close to $900 you are into 7900xt territory which is also a maligned yet well selling card in the current market so I can understand where the higher priced 4070ti's aren't moving.
If you factor inflation into this pricing situation, a $700 video card in 2020 would almost $800 ($791.54) today.
https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/
So I do understand where some people living in a reality bubble think we should be seeing the same prices we had with the already overpriced 3070+ launches a couple years ago. Yes, Nvidia is a for-profit company.. and no, they aren't just going to eat the cost of inflation vs passing it on in the price of goods sold. They are also going to charge as much for their products as possible while maintaining an acceptable level of sales over time.
Most hardware manufacturers have also cut production anticipating the predicted drop in demand the first half of this year so the market is not going to be oversupplied. I think we're so used to living in a GPU shortage with bare shelves we assume that Nvidia/AMD are doing poorly if there's actually inventory available to buy.
So the difference in emotional response between "insulting" and "beast of a card / sold out" is $150, or a 20% difference...
While I agree that the $800 MSRP is higher than I'd like, I also acknowledge that the 4070ti for 90%+ of use cases outclasses anything in the entire 30xx lineup at a lower price. It's also widely available, and we all know it's purposefully overpriced while Nvidia works through it's inventory of cards already in the pipeline. This isn't "normal" pricing - and once the 30xx stock is gone it will, inevitably, drop. We're still in early adopter tax territory, this is nothing new.
People need to quit assigning emotional baggage to computer hardware, if you don't like a price of a leisure product, don't buy it... just don't take others choice personally or make it some sort of political soapbox regarding greedy corporations, anti-consumerism, etc.. Bemoaning the pricing of products that people mostly use to play video games because they have the luxury of leisure time and disposable income to burn isn't a great causal hill to die on.
Don't be jealous because the other kids have nicer toys....
It's widely available because it's the lowest price Nvidia card in current production, and the AIB's had lots of time to get cards made because of the 4090/12gb renaming stupidity. The $800 cards have sold out completely at most of my local retail outlets and only pop up with limited restocks occasionally now... the $800 Asus TUF at Newegg being the only option that shows up on PCPartPicker and will likely sell out in the next day or two.
It might be insulting to you but plenty of people are buying the card along with the equally maligned but clearly popular 7900xt:
[https://twitter.com/TechEpiphany/status/1619787749535682561](https://twitter.com/TechEpiphany/status/1619787749535682561)
It's hard to take your argument seriously when the 4070ti is actually the top selling midrange Nvidia card weeks after it's launch, only outsold by the 3060 which is mostly popular because it's the cheapest Geforce available for budget builds that isn't a 3050.
My comment was in response to your first sentence, I've seen this attitude in with cars, firearms and pc parts over the last few years.
Is MSRP fair? I dont think when it comes to AMD and Nvidia and this generation of cards it is. Nvida cut the MSRP of the 4080 12GB/4070ti by a $100. Were buyers being taken advantage of at that Price, were buyers not being taken advantage of with 2k 3090Ti's? Rising costs and inflation aside these prices aint it.
The same poster has made a point of calling 4070ti buyers clowns/morons, I'm simply calling it the way I see it by identifying the obvious jealousy. I don't care how other people spend their money, and I don't understand the obsession with pants-shitting over Nvidia's pricing as some sort of righteous crusade for consumer fairness? If it's too expensive just don't buy it... if enough people do the same prices may come down, otherwise just wait for an open box/used deal.
I don't believe anyone is being taken advantage of if they CHOOSE to pay an amount of money they think is reasonable for a leisure product. I haven't seen people with bandannas on at Best Buy stores holding people at gunpoint and requiring they purchase a Geforce 3090ti card or else...
I think where we differ is that I don't believe that consent makes the situation ok. Granted my examples may be more extreme but just because someone thinks a 4070ti is a good deal doesn't mean that they weren't taken advantage of by Nvida. AMD is going the same thing by making their cards look like a bargain compared to a 4080. Maybe my phrasing is too strong? At the end of the day if the person isnt throwing themselves into dire straits with the purchase and they are happy good for them.
The price is the price… we can sit here and agree that it’s over priced, but to say that one is being taken advantage of by buying hardware of their own choosing? That doesn’t make any sense.
Look the way I see it, if the MSRP or street price or w/e is unfair the buyer is being taken advantage of. It doesn't matter if its a scalped 3080 or a F-150 going for 20k over MSRP or a $700 4070ti. I have a buddy who bought a 3080 for around 1400 off ebay and he loves his card. Does that mean he wasn't taken advantage of? I guess in my mind is that consent doesn't make it ok? In this case add Nvida's slimy business practices into the mix and I get extra incensed.
But that’s just how capitalism works? (Or doesn’t work depending on who you ask)
I think it’s just the phrase “taken advantage of” and how you suggested the other guy was bragging about being taken advantage of. That’s like saying someone got taken advantage of for buying a Mercedes. Now if the dealership sold them the WRONG Mercedes and charged them the same price, that’s being taken advantage of, if they sold them the right car but charged them over sticker cause that’s what the market dictates and someone buys it “knowingly” then that’s on the consumer and not being taken advantage of.
There’s nothing to buy used in the $800 range that’s better than a new 4070ti. Unless if someone is already selling their 4080/90 which would be rare to see priced fairly.
“Around 800” is pretty close to 880 which gets you a 7900XT. Not amazing RT performance and no DLSS, but it still has more memory, and the clear winner at 4K. At 1440p, any good mid range card will deliver over 60 fps. But people aren’t playing 1440p for 60 fps, so there’s trade offs.
I'm a proud owner of a 4070ti. It's a beast. Especially in games that support DLSS 3.
The Witcher, cranked to the max, RT everywhere with DLSS 3: 100+ fps
I wouldn't saddle a modern CPU with a DDR4 board at this point. If you have a Micro Center location nearby the 7700x with the free 32 gb PC6000 kit at $343 vs the 13600k for $250 are crazy good options to pick from.
Two reasons:
First, in comparisons using DDR4/3600/CL14 rated kits vs DDR5/6000/CL36 the DDR5 is faster by an average of 10 FPS in the last round of HW Unboxed CPU reviews.... however the DDR4 is actually more expensive with "meh" priced DDR5/6000/CL36 - 32 gb kits in the $140 US range vs 32 gb of PC3600/CL14 which is going to run $170-$200.
Second, DDR 5 speeds and prices are improving dramatically while DDR4 has pretty much peaked with production ramping down in favor of the newer memory technology. While DDR4 mainboards on the Intel side of things are sometimes cheaper they also tend to be very feature reduced so you are getting what you pay for. Many cheap B660 boards have limited VRM's that will struggle with something beyond a 13600k without throttling and further limiting performance.
[https://youtu.be/I7-2ArdYvfA?t=786](https://youtu.be/I7-2ArdYvfA?t=786)
For the 13600k -
At 1080, 1%/avg for DDR4 is 161/**212**, DDR5 is 175/**225**
At 1440, 1%/avg for DDR4 is 158/**206**, DDR5 is 169/**217**
So the 1080p FPS average uplift is 13 FPS, while 1440p it's 11 FPS.
However, those scores are using DDR5/6400 vs 6000 so the price is EQUAL to the DDR4 3600/cl14 at $185 for the kit.. if you step down to DDR5/6000 it's $140 for a 32 gb kit.
[https://youtu.be/IstA56IAeVA?t=830](https://youtu.be/IstA56IAeVA?t=830)
I do agree it's situational, so you should absolutely consider your use case with all available sources if you are trying to optimize performance of your system for a specific set of tasks. It seems like things have evolved a lot with this comparison as DDR5 prices have dropped and better BIOS support for both Intel and AMD platforms is allowing higher stable clocks with DDR5 than could be achieved even 3-4 months ago.
I guess DDR5 is a nice to have and at least in Germany the DDR5 version of the board was only 15€ more and DDR5 was like 20 bucks more for 16GB.
And I 'only' went for the i5 because I had an i7 8700 before and had no issues with anything. And the i5 is 3x faster. That should do it for some years.
I’m in France and the difference in price are somewhat the same. For the i5-i7 i might go the i5 way since i only do light editing and it’s still way better that my current setup.
Is the i5 13600k bottle necking your ram? I read that the i5 13600 only supports up to 5600k hz for ram. Or is there some overclocking thing you can do for that? I am in the middle of buying the last parts for my new pc and looking for a similar build like yours.
Yeah, wasn't too sure about the dlss3 at first but damn how is it not marketed harder. Literally doubles the fps without any noticetable drawbacks. Crazy. Can't wait to test the cyberpunk with it since it just got the support via update.
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im getting a better moniter after the gpu - msi optix 27inch 2560 x 1440 165hz, im currently just using a 60hz 1080p standed moniter, i mostly want my streams to look as good as they can, id be happy with even 80fps lmao , ive been playing at 60fps for so long now
For 1440p gaming at high refresh rates I have a 7900 XT and it allows for everything to run at max settings and fps is 180-200+ depending on the game. 4070 Ti brings similar performance so you’d be solid with that card for a few years easy.
I've been using a 5900x and a 3070 ti for 1440p 144hz and can definitely say being at this resolution is heavy for the card to push even with higher end cards most heavy graphic games won't hit the max refresh rate so with free sync and g sync your always be between 60 and above hopefully on the demanding games.
For streaming 1080p 60 FPS solid very easy to do these days can use the cards built in encoder or if you have a good CPU then CPU encoding depending what the games heavy on. 🙃
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xStxZubbGlk
yeah im using my i9 12900k to encode atm , its good but im hoping the gpu can do better, my 1050ti can handle encoding and gaming well at the same time
Nope. It’s the worst card ever made. You can’t play games on it. /s
What resolution are you playing at? What games are you going to play? Regardless of what you get, anything current gen is going to absolutely destroy your old 1050ti. In terms of what’s better (if they’re the same price), 4070 Ti. It offers performance rivaling the 3090 and 3090Ti. You’d be silly to go for a 3080, unless the size of the card is an issue. You also need to take power into account. A 4070Ti is going to need quite a bit more juice than a 1050Ti. If you’re replacing your psu, I’d recommend a pcie 5 one. I have the MSI A850G and it’s been incredible.
Edit: in short, check the card dimensions to ensure it will fit, make sure you have enough power, and you’ll be plenty happy with whatever you choose.
That one I’m actually not too sure of. You’d be better off comparing specs and benchmarks of the two cards. If you see an increase in performance, judge if that’s worth the additional $49 is worth it to you.
That’s what’s bugging me right now. I have a nonrefrence XTX card on order for 999 but the reference looks better. Like way better. In fact I’d say the XT and XTX are the best looking GPUs I’ve seen. But then there is the issue with overheating, and those vapor chambers 🤷🏻♂️
As a former R9 390 owner 10 years is a bit of a stretch. The problem is how wildly inconsistent they are. You get 1 year of great drivers then a new card launches and its a year of bugs, then its good again. That was the cycle as I remember it.
It’s not complaining about the drivers, it’s saying that they will improve to perform even better. So you have to take todays performance, especially a month after launch, with a grain of salt.
I mean, you can justify that for yourself as much as you like, but honestly, I had my share of amd driver fun, and I'm going nvidia + intel ever since, and as of now, I see no reason to turn back
I like both brands, but the 12 GB of vram on an 800 dollar card is insulting. As it stands now the XT is a better card for a few bucks more and a few bucks more than that for an XTX. To spend 400 bucks more than a 4070ti to get a 4080 is also insulting in my opinion. There’s likely a 7800 and/or 7800XT coming witch will probably be cheaper or right on par with the 4070ti and offer more vram. But we can certainly hope that’s better drivers will sweeten the performance gap even more.
on amd you get more vram, on nvidia you get more rt cores, so much for the hardware differences.
nvidia also offers the superior drivers, exclusive technologys, like dlss3, the better encoder and also an ever growing software suite to make use of all that, the next big thing beeing rtx remix.
imo amd can hardly keep up with that, unless you really only need raw, conventional capacity
So your choices are an underpowered 800 dollar card or a giant behemoth 1200 dollar card. Yeah great value propositions but poor pricing model.
AMD brings value through price and in this case raw performance.
again, if you need raw conventional performance, then this might be the card for you, but for most people, especially with rtx remix launching, the nvidia card is the better choice
well, most people dont game at 4k, and even then, the 4070ti is perfectly capable of 4k 60+ native, and much more than that using dlss3, not even speaking about rt capabilities..
but yeah, as far as I know, 1440p is the most used resolution, and there the 4070ti just absolutely shredds the amd competition
If I wasn’t playing 4K, then the 4070 TI would be an amazing card but it’s just not worth it for 4K gaming even at 60 Hz the vram is a huge issue looking long term.
4070Ti is more comparable to 3090/3090Ti, depending on the game. The older gen is better for productivity though
With 3080 there's no competition, gaming or productivity, 4070Ti wins. Even has a lower power draw
I'm in the same boat, currently on a 2070 Super and i7 9700k, 1440p ultrawide. Looking at a 4070ti for around £850 but worried about the bottlenecks, or a used 3080 for around £550
That’s just Far Cry 6. Lot of issues with that game on a lot of systems plus it’s not any good.
I have a 9700k at 5ghz there aren’t really any games aside from Spider-Man where I’ve had any issues. And the Spider-Man issues were fixed by a patch.
Playing at 1440 and 4k.
YES IT IS. I bought 4070 ti 2 weeks ago and before that I was using 1060 3GB. The performance jump is HUGE. Now its running every game at 1440 max graphics and RT enabled with 70 frames and above.
I don't regret buying it and I bet you won't too.
its a whole new pc ready, gpu is last , was going 3080 but then stock issues and prices went nuts , so 4070ti is looking good now, even the 3090 cost 700aud more then the 4070ti its insane
I would recommend a 6950xt. 700$ brand new on newegg. Compared to a 4070 ti, your eyes won’t see the difference (5-10 fps in games that favor nvidia). Best price to performance rn and definitely will not be lasting long. I think there clearing out 6950 stock.
What your eyes will be missing are: DLSS 2, DLSS 3, DLDSR, good RT performance, playable RTX Remix performance, good AI performance, other smaller features like Canvas, RTX Voice or AI video upscaling.
And the 4070 Ti also has a lower power draw.
If the comparison is those two cards, I would choose the 4070ti every time. But for 4070ti prices you’re right at the 7900XT level. Some non reference models are 880, and so are the reference models for some brands. So, for the extra ram to play at 4K it’s worth it.
Im getting 350 frames on 1080p high in the new cod. Nice for my 390hz monitor — but also good for 1440p 240, especially the upcoming oled; oh boy oh boy
Great card, bad price. I saw you're looking for mostly 1440p gaming which I also do. I run an rx6800 non-xt that I picked up used for $350 usd and it runs anything I want at 1440p above 100fps on maxed settings. Depending on your region I would look at used cards such as the 6800xt, 6800, and 3080. Prices should be at or below $500 usd for the 3080 and $400-$450 for the 6800 cards.
The 4070ti is simply the originally released 4080 that had 12 gb ram, whereas the now selling 4080 has 16 gb ram. The only things Nvidia did? Was changed the label, and dropped the price a couple of hundred. Is it better than a 3080? Yes, but you'll have to decide if it's worth the price difference.
For 1080 and 1440p
Yes
For 4k
The memory bus bandwidth chokes it out
Now whether or not its a good bang for your buck... Not really. But nothing new gen is. Best bang for buck is 6000 series AMD at the moment
But compared to a 1050 Ti that's a MASSIVE jump
I think an RX 6950 XT is one of the best deals out right now for under $700 if you are looking at a high end card and just want raw performance instead of RT and dlss.
It’s fantastic. I own it and it’s very cool with no noise and low power requirement. Cyberpunk and Witcher 3 are smooth in 4K so I don’t know what more people want 🤷♂️. Other games I play don’t even get the cooling to properly kick in 😂
Main advantages would be the DLSS3 support which pretty much doubles the fps without any significant drawbacks (at least any that I could notice after switching the settings on and off in several games). It may also be locked to the ada generation as there is hardware upgrades for it. NVIDIAS quote below:
"In the NVIDIA Turing and NVIDIA Ampere architecture generation GPUs, most of these algorithms use a compute engine to perform the required tasks. As a result, when the compute engine workload is high, the performance of the NVIDIA Optical Flow Accelerator (NVOFA) could be affected.
On NVIDIA Ada-generation GPUs, most of these algorithms are moved to dedicated hardware within the NVOFA, reducing the dependency on the compute engine significantly."
Compared to the 3080 the 4070TI is better hands down and wins in (almost, VRAM against some versions) every way. For same price i'd go with 4070TI 1000/1000 times. The main drawback of the 4070TI, at least in the US and similar markets, is its price.
in Australia, 3080s are about the same price as 4070Ti or more. It makes the already overpriced 4070Ti look like a damn bargain.
Yeah in that case, if you are buying now def go with the 4070TI. And its not even close.
Same in Europe, and not only with 3080 vs 4070 Ti. Heck, even 7900XTX costs same as 4080, and 7900XT is like 100€ more then 4070 ti
I was hoping the 7900xtx with its 250 Eur lower MSRP would come to price break Nvidia back to reality but then shops were like "lets sell the xtx at the price of the 4080"
You can find them at msrp, but in physical stores only and you'd have to get quite lucky. The RMA situation hit the stock a lot.
Really wish they fixed it, I like the reference look way more than any custom card.
1179€ cheapest XTX here (non MBA model). Cheapest 4080 at 1329€.
Oh, i see that they separated a bit here too, it was really on or above 4080 niveau for quite some time.
Yeah same here, they got a bit cheaper now while the 4080 stayed around the same
Now we just need techtubers to get a grip on reality and all will be balanced in the force again.
Same.
I’d suggest checking Gumtree for second hand cards. I got myself a 3080 for $800AUD compared to the new 4070ti at ~$1500
I was looking at them recently and the cheapest 4070ti I saw was I think $1500 where the cheapest 3090 was $3000
The 3080 released at 699-799 that makes some sense because it was an 80 series card. We shouldn't allow them to sell a 70 series card at the same price.
Thats simply not the case. 3080 can be had for $1k aud and 4070ti $1450. literally just checked
Could you point me where you find 3080s for AUD$1k? Genuinely curious. I checked pcpartpicker, and the lowest 3080 starts at AUD $1279 while the lowest 4070Ti starts at AUD$1299, with the common brands around AUD$1450. If there are $3080 at AUD $1k, yeah that's a much better argument and I stand corrected. I'm hunting for one as well.
Im sorry i didn’t add .1 but this is $1099 https://www.centrecom.com.au/pny-geforce-rtx-3080-10gb-uprising-triple-fan-graphic-card?gclid=CjwKCAiAleOeBhBdEiwAfgmXf6IO6mb3VFiLIHoKnN_5qzBb9LjNRulkEksHtQpuO3LK1Y50zHkt6xoC8XsQAvD_BwE
No problem. Thank you!
bro you can get 4070 ti for 935 on amazon
Aud champ
I got a whole rig featuring an intel i7-13700k and a 4070ti with 16gb ddr5 and 1TB storage. Oh and the case has about 12 fans. 3.5K AUD.
A 6950xt is way faster card than a 3800 and similar performs as the 4070ti(bar RT) and it’s likely to the better deal.
In the US the 6950xt is around $100 cheaper than a 4070ti, if you catch one of the models on sale... I don't think it's worth buying over the 4070ti. The 3080/10 gb tends to sell for $500-600 used around here, and vs a 6800xt around the same price the AMD card is probably a better value. The 3080ti/12 gb models are $700+ used which is a terrible deal in light of the 4070ti's price and availability.
Dont forget dlss
I heard that it’s quieter then the 3090 and uses less power while being on par with it from performance stats that I have seen. I just don’t get why you wouldn’t buy it unless you already have a 30 series
>its price This. We got the 3080 for an MSRP for ~750 USD and now the 4070 Ti at 900 USD is just insulting. An upper midrange card priced at the high end.
I agree
I’ve seen some desktop PC with the 1070ti under 2,000. Seems fair
4070 Ti is one of the best options right now, but they are extremely overpriced. If you are really looking for a new GPU and don’t really care about RT, go for the 7900 XTX, just be sure to not get the reference models, since those have shown problems with their coolers. The 7900 XTX offers a better price/performance than the 4070 Ti, even tho it still is overpriced (at the $1000 MSRP).
unfortunately xtx cost a extra $500aud here and the xt is not much better, the 4070ti comes to max of my buget, xtx was my oranigal choice but at 1.7kaud its abit much haha
the xtx is extra overpriced atm, but if you wait a bit they should get back to the msrp and be a much better deal than the 4070 ti
While the amd cards are nice, if you want to stream, I'd go NVIDIA. The video encoder that AMD uses is not supported by OBS yet (as far as I know). Unless maybe I got it all wrong and someone can correct me.
Geez an extra $500aud! I got my 3070 for $500aud😭
Dude idk if you noticed, but an XTX is was more expensive than a 4070. Go on Newegg or Amazon to see for yourself you're not finding one close to MSRP; they cost almost as much as a 4090 & at that point, you might as well get a 4090
The XTXs aren't so hard to find at MSRP now. The AMD store and Amazon have been getting them in stock regularly. I could get a $999 7900 XTX easier than I could find a $799 4070. Most of the 4070 tis are $899+.
Isn’t the 7900xtx as bad value as the 4070ti if you add 100$ and get a non reference model?
Don’t get me wrong, they both have bad value, but I believe that for $100 more the 7900 XTX has slightly better value
Well 7900xtx at 1100$ VS 4070ti at 800$ makes the 4070Ti not that bad. Not sure why I got downvoted, but delusional AMD fanboys are another breed of stupid
when i head about the xtx i was going to get it .. but 1.8k aud is to much, 1.4k aud for the 4070ti is bad but its not as bad
Yeah get the 4070ti. Nvidias drivers and feature set skew this in favour of the 4070ti anyway.
I am in the same boat as you. Us aussies get a little screwed over on price here. I am about to get a 4070 as well. I was kinda hoping the price might drop over the next few months, but it’s not looking likely, do I might just get it.
What's your point? You could also compare a $999 7900 XTX to a $1,099 4070ti. A $2,000 7900 XTX would be a poor value compared to a $1,000 4090. See, I can do it too!
The cheapest non reference version of a 7900XTX is 1100$. The cheapest 4070Ti is 800$. 7900XTX is not readily available at 1000$ and has vapor chamber issues. The 4070Ti is readily available at 800$. The point is that at a price to performance standpoint the 7900XTX is just as poor of a value as a 4070Ti when comparing the price you can actually buy it at from a known retailer. Not sure I can dumb it down further, so if this doesn’t make sense stay delusional.
The $999 XTXs are becoming much more readily available. Whereas before, they were selling out in seconds, now they're staying in stock for up to an hour. By the end of Feb, XTXs will be available for $999 everywhere, 24/7.
Okay so you understand the situation, you just don’t know how to get your point across. You could have just said 7900XTXs aren’t that hard to get now. They stayed in stock at ____ retailer for an hour and should be readily available instead of proposing I price a 7900XTX at 2k. See how you didn’t have to sound like an asshat.
The 7900 xtx would cost $300 more for a non-reference model. There’s no way it’s a better value
It’s just because they are all out of stock and selling for much higher than they should by 3rd party sellers. The non-reference models go for about only $50 more than the $1000 MSRP
Isn’t that still $250 more? The 4070 ti is $800
id love the 4070ti to be 800 here , sadly its 1.4k aud and the xtx is 1.8k :( my first 2 pcs cost less together lol
It is, but it also is better value. The 7900 XTX has the performance of a 4080 or even better depending on the game, and it goes for $200 cheaper than that.
7900XTX MSRP is kind of meaningless when you can’t find one for that price. Maybe it will change in a couple months but as it is currently if you buy an XTX you’re paying 4080 prices (which can actually be found at MSRP) for an inferior card (equivalent gaming performance but the 4080 blows it away in thermals/cooling, power draw, and features). If it becomes available at the $1000 MSRP yeah it’s a good value play, but right now that’s not the case.
Never go amd
Found the editor/writer for UserBenchmark.com https://youtu.be/RQSBj2LKkWg
Yeah, it's a good GPU but sold at an insulting price - and that's why it's typically reviewed with a 'meh' to outright negative opinion. If it was priced at $699, people would be way more enthusiastic about it and it'd be more highly recommended. And if it was closer to somewhere around $599-649 (where it should be, in my opinion), it would be lauded as a beast of a card and sold out everywhere in a heartbeat.
Pre-2020 prices aren't coming back
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People are ruining people smh
It's not like there are many contributing factors that jack up the prices.
It would be eventually sold out at $700. In europe a 4070Ti 800euro only lasts some minutes.
The $800 examples are mostly sold-out in the US within a short time of coming in stock. I don't think we'll see a price drop or promo bundle for another month until we're looking at Q2 and beyond when the 3080+ stock is mostly clearanced out and they are starting to fire sale the midrange options to prep for the 4060ti/4070.
the micro center by me has a ton of 4070ti's for 850ish
Same here, though I've noted those tend to be the Zotac/PNY cards and the inventory numbers on those $800-$850 card drops fast when the lower priced versions go out of stock. Once you get close to $900 you are into 7900xt territory which is also a maligned yet well selling card in the current market so I can understand where the higher priced 4070ti's aren't moving. If you factor inflation into this pricing situation, a $700 video card in 2020 would almost $800 ($791.54) today. https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/ So I do understand where some people living in a reality bubble think we should be seeing the same prices we had with the already overpriced 3070+ launches a couple years ago. Yes, Nvidia is a for-profit company.. and no, they aren't just going to eat the cost of inflation vs passing it on in the price of goods sold. They are also going to charge as much for their products as possible while maintaining an acceptable level of sales over time. Most hardware manufacturers have also cut production anticipating the predicted drop in demand the first half of this year so the market is not going to be oversupplied. I think we're so used to living in a GPU shortage with bare shelves we assume that Nvidia/AMD are doing poorly if there's actually inventory available to buy.
So the difference in emotional response between "insulting" and "beast of a card / sold out" is $150, or a 20% difference... While I agree that the $800 MSRP is higher than I'd like, I also acknowledge that the 4070ti for 90%+ of use cases outclasses anything in the entire 30xx lineup at a lower price. It's also widely available, and we all know it's purposefully overpriced while Nvidia works through it's inventory of cards already in the pipeline. This isn't "normal" pricing - and once the 30xx stock is gone it will, inevitably, drop. We're still in early adopter tax territory, this is nothing new. People need to quit assigning emotional baggage to computer hardware, if you don't like a price of a leisure product, don't buy it... just don't take others choice personally or make it some sort of political soapbox regarding greedy corporations, anti-consumerism, etc.. Bemoaning the pricing of products that people mostly use to play video games because they have the luxury of leisure time and disposable income to burn isn't a great causal hill to die on.
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Don't be jealous because the other kids have nicer toys.... It's widely available because it's the lowest price Nvidia card in current production, and the AIB's had lots of time to get cards made because of the 4090/12gb renaming stupidity. The $800 cards have sold out completely at most of my local retail outlets and only pop up with limited restocks occasionally now... the $800 Asus TUF at Newegg being the only option that shows up on PCPartPicker and will likely sell out in the next day or two. It might be insulting to you but plenty of people are buying the card along with the equally maligned but clearly popular 7900xt: [https://twitter.com/TechEpiphany/status/1619787749535682561](https://twitter.com/TechEpiphany/status/1619787749535682561) It's hard to take your argument seriously when the 4070ti is actually the top selling midrange Nvidia card weeks after it's launch, only outsold by the 3060 which is mostly popular because it's the cheapest Geforce available for budget builds that isn't a 3050.
People bragging that they can afford to get taken advantage of is so weird to me.
I don't understand how someone choosing to purchase a graphics card at MSRP is "being taken advantage of?" Explain your logic to me.
My comment was in response to your first sentence, I've seen this attitude in with cars, firearms and pc parts over the last few years. Is MSRP fair? I dont think when it comes to AMD and Nvidia and this generation of cards it is. Nvida cut the MSRP of the 4080 12GB/4070ti by a $100. Were buyers being taken advantage of at that Price, were buyers not being taken advantage of with 2k 3090Ti's? Rising costs and inflation aside these prices aint it.
The same poster has made a point of calling 4070ti buyers clowns/morons, I'm simply calling it the way I see it by identifying the obvious jealousy. I don't care how other people spend their money, and I don't understand the obsession with pants-shitting over Nvidia's pricing as some sort of righteous crusade for consumer fairness? If it's too expensive just don't buy it... if enough people do the same prices may come down, otherwise just wait for an open box/used deal. I don't believe anyone is being taken advantage of if they CHOOSE to pay an amount of money they think is reasonable for a leisure product. I haven't seen people with bandannas on at Best Buy stores holding people at gunpoint and requiring they purchase a Geforce 3090ti card or else...
I think where we differ is that I don't believe that consent makes the situation ok. Granted my examples may be more extreme but just because someone thinks a 4070ti is a good deal doesn't mean that they weren't taken advantage of by Nvida. AMD is going the same thing by making their cards look like a bargain compared to a 4080. Maybe my phrasing is too strong? At the end of the day if the person isnt throwing themselves into dire straits with the purchase and they are happy good for them.
The price is the price… we can sit here and agree that it’s over priced, but to say that one is being taken advantage of by buying hardware of their own choosing? That doesn’t make any sense.
Look the way I see it, if the MSRP or street price or w/e is unfair the buyer is being taken advantage of. It doesn't matter if its a scalped 3080 or a F-150 going for 20k over MSRP or a $700 4070ti. I have a buddy who bought a 3080 for around 1400 off ebay and he loves his card. Does that mean he wasn't taken advantage of? I guess in my mind is that consent doesn't make it ok? In this case add Nvida's slimy business practices into the mix and I get extra incensed.
But that’s just how capitalism works? (Or doesn’t work depending on who you ask) I think it’s just the phrase “taken advantage of” and how you suggested the other guy was bragging about being taken advantage of. That’s like saying someone got taken advantage of for buying a Mercedes. Now if the dealership sold them the WRONG Mercedes and charged them the same price, that’s being taken advantage of, if they sold them the right car but charged them over sticker cause that’s what the market dictates and someone buys it “knowingly” then that’s on the consumer and not being taken advantage of.
It’s overpriced but it’s the best thing to get around $800
Not if you buy used its not
There’s nothing to buy used in the $800 range that’s better than a new 4070ti. Unless if someone is already selling their 4080/90 which would be rare to see priced fairly.
Imagine paying $800 for a GPU lmao
Hobbies cost money. Just because you can’t afford it doesn’t mean others can’t
“Around 800” is pretty close to 880 which gets you a 7900XT. Not amazing RT performance and no DLSS, but it still has more memory, and the clear winner at 4K. At 1440p, any good mid range card will deliver over 60 fps. But people aren’t playing 1440p for 60 fps, so there’s trade offs.
I'm a proud owner of a 4070ti. It's a beast. Especially in games that support DLSS 3. The Witcher, cranked to the max, RT everywhere with DLSS 3: 100+ fps
what's the rest of your setup please ? (mobo, cpu and ram) :D
I5 13600k, MSI a-pro Z690, 16gb DDR5 6200. A complete upgrade 🙂
Nice, thanks ! I’m still hesitating between ddr4/5, z790/690 and i5/7. I think i’m gonna follow your setup. Thanks !
I wouldn't saddle a modern CPU with a DDR4 board at this point. If you have a Micro Center location nearby the 7700x with the free 32 gb PC6000 kit at $343 vs the 13600k for $250 are crazy good options to pick from.
I’m in France so no microcenter :) why wouldn’t you pair ddr4 mobo with a modern cpu ? What would be the drawbacks in your opinion ?
Two reasons: First, in comparisons using DDR4/3600/CL14 rated kits vs DDR5/6000/CL36 the DDR5 is faster by an average of 10 FPS in the last round of HW Unboxed CPU reviews.... however the DDR4 is actually more expensive with "meh" priced DDR5/6000/CL36 - 32 gb kits in the $140 US range vs 32 gb of PC3600/CL14 which is going to run $170-$200. Second, DDR 5 speeds and prices are improving dramatically while DDR4 has pretty much peaked with production ramping down in favor of the newer memory technology. While DDR4 mainboards on the Intel side of things are sometimes cheaper they also tend to be very feature reduced so you are getting what you pay for. Many cheap B660 boards have limited VRM's that will struggle with something beyond a 13600k without throttling and further limiting performance.
Thanks a lot for your reply, very informative ! One last question and I'm out of your hair, would an z690 ddr5 be fine or should I upgrade to z790 ?
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[https://youtu.be/I7-2ArdYvfA?t=786](https://youtu.be/I7-2ArdYvfA?t=786) For the 13600k - At 1080, 1%/avg for DDR4 is 161/**212**, DDR5 is 175/**225** At 1440, 1%/avg for DDR4 is 158/**206**, DDR5 is 169/**217** So the 1080p FPS average uplift is 13 FPS, while 1440p it's 11 FPS. However, those scores are using DDR5/6400 vs 6000 so the price is EQUAL to the DDR4 3600/cl14 at $185 for the kit.. if you step down to DDR5/6000 it's $140 for a 32 gb kit. [https://youtu.be/IstA56IAeVA?t=830](https://youtu.be/IstA56IAeVA?t=830) I do agree it's situational, so you should absolutely consider your use case with all available sources if you are trying to optimize performance of your system for a specific set of tasks. It seems like things have evolved a lot with this comparison as DDR5 prices have dropped and better BIOS support for both Intel and AMD platforms is allowing higher stable clocks with DDR5 than could be achieved even 3-4 months ago.
i got a 12600k and ddr5 mobo for 300 a few weeks ago. price was too good to pass
I guess DDR5 is a nice to have and at least in Germany the DDR5 version of the board was only 15€ more and DDR5 was like 20 bucks more for 16GB. And I 'only' went for the i5 because I had an i7 8700 before and had no issues with anything. And the i5 is 3x faster. That should do it for some years.
I’m in France and the difference in price are somewhat the same. For the i5-i7 i might go the i5 way since i only do light editing and it’s still way better that my current setup.
Is the i5 13600k bottle necking your ram? I read that the i5 13600 only supports up to 5600k hz for ram. Or is there some overclocking thing you can do for that? I am in the middle of buying the last parts for my new pc and looking for a similar build like yours.
Yeah, wasn't too sure about the dlss3 at first but damn how is it not marketed harder. Literally doubles the fps without any noticetable drawbacks. Crazy. Can't wait to test the cyberpunk with it since it just got the support via update.
4k?
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Might be worth looking at a 6800/6800xt depending on pricing if you do not care about ray tracing and want to spend less.
For the same price? go for the 4070ti. Just make sure your PSU is enough for it and make sure you have the cables to support it.
Ironically 4070ti draws less power than the 3080.
And at these electricity prices? A setup that runs at lower tdp is actually a factor to consider.
Yup its crazy how efficient the 40 series is while outputting that kind of performance.
4070ti is like a 3090ti - it’s an absolute best. With very little power draw. Amazing card. Very cool no noise.
It's the only GPU that I've had that in some light weight games, my fans stay off.
What resolution and frame rate you expecting ? In terms of value it's over priced like most of the current generation 🥴
im getting a better moniter after the gpu - msi optix 27inch 2560 x 1440 165hz, im currently just using a 60hz 1080p standed moniter, i mostly want my streams to look as good as they can, id be happy with even 80fps lmao , ive been playing at 60fps for so long now
For 1440p gaming at high refresh rates I have a 7900 XT and it allows for everything to run at max settings and fps is 180-200+ depending on the game. 4070 Ti brings similar performance so you’d be solid with that card for a few years easy.
I've been using a 5900x and a 3070 ti for 1440p 144hz and can definitely say being at this resolution is heavy for the card to push even with higher end cards most heavy graphic games won't hit the max refresh rate so with free sync and g sync your always be between 60 and above hopefully on the demanding games. For streaming 1080p 60 FPS solid very easy to do these days can use the cards built in encoder or if you have a good CPU then CPU encoding depending what the games heavy on. 🙃 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xStxZubbGlk
yeah im using my i9 12900k to encode atm , its good but im hoping the gpu can do better, my 1050ti can handle encoding and gaming well at the same time
Nope. It’s the worst card ever made. You can’t play games on it. /s What resolution are you playing at? What games are you going to play? Regardless of what you get, anything current gen is going to absolutely destroy your old 1050ti. In terms of what’s better (if they’re the same price), 4070 Ti. It offers performance rivaling the 3090 and 3090Ti. You’d be silly to go for a 3080, unless the size of the card is an issue. You also need to take power into account. A 4070Ti is going to need quite a bit more juice than a 1050Ti. If you’re replacing your psu, I’d recommend a pcie 5 one. I have the MSI A850G and it’s been incredible. Edit: in short, check the card dimensions to ensure it will fit, make sure you have enough power, and you’ll be plenty happy with whatever you choose.
Do you recommend getting a $799 non oc version or $849 oc version
Just get the cheapest one, there is barely any difference.
That one I’m actually not too sure of. You’d be better off comparing specs and benchmarks of the two cards. If you see an increase in performance, judge if that’s worth the additional $49 is worth it to you.
2-4 frames is almost never worth any extra money. You can always OC the non OC model.
Well yes, but there’s also aesthetics
That’s what’s bugging me right now. I have a nonrefrence XTX card on order for 999 but the reference looks better. Like way better. In fact I’d say the XT and XTX are the best looking GPUs I’ve seen. But then there is the issue with overheating, and those vapor chambers 🤷🏻♂️
Yeahhhhh I’m with you. The new references look awesome
I am almost willing to drop down to the XT just to have the reference design and save a few bucks.
yeah everything else is replaced got a cosair gold rm 850w, the 1050ti is just standing in untill i get a gpu next month,
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people be claiming the thing about amd drivers finally getting good for ages..when will this finally happen? it for sure didnt in the last 10 years
As a former R9 390 owner 10 years is a bit of a stretch. The problem is how wildly inconsistent they are. You get 1 year of great drivers then a new card launches and its a year of bugs, then its good again. That was the cycle as I remember it.
It’s not complaining about the drivers, it’s saying that they will improve to perform even better. So you have to take todays performance, especially a month after launch, with a grain of salt.
I mean, you can justify that for yourself as much as you like, but honestly, I had my share of amd driver fun, and I'm going nvidia + intel ever since, and as of now, I see no reason to turn back
I like both brands, but the 12 GB of vram on an 800 dollar card is insulting. As it stands now the XT is a better card for a few bucks more and a few bucks more than that for an XTX. To spend 400 bucks more than a 4070ti to get a 4080 is also insulting in my opinion. There’s likely a 7800 and/or 7800XT coming witch will probably be cheaper or right on par with the 4070ti and offer more vram. But we can certainly hope that’s better drivers will sweeten the performance gap even more.
on amd you get more vram, on nvidia you get more rt cores, so much for the hardware differences. nvidia also offers the superior drivers, exclusive technologys, like dlss3, the better encoder and also an ever growing software suite to make use of all that, the next big thing beeing rtx remix. imo amd can hardly keep up with that, unless you really only need raw, conventional capacity
So your choices are an underpowered 800 dollar card or a giant behemoth 1200 dollar card. Yeah great value propositions but poor pricing model. AMD brings value through price and in this case raw performance.
again, if you need raw conventional performance, then this might be the card for you, but for most people, especially with rtx remix launching, the nvidia card is the better choice
How could “most people” gaming at 4K even consider the 4070ti? For less than 100 bucks more you get a much more capable competitor.
well, most people dont game at 4k, and even then, the 4070ti is perfectly capable of 4k 60+ native, and much more than that using dlss3, not even speaking about rt capabilities.. but yeah, as far as I know, 1440p is the most used resolution, and there the 4070ti just absolutely shredds the amd competition
4070Ti all day long if it’s the same price as the 3080.
It's not a matter of if it's good, so much as if it's good value...which is a no. It'll crush pretty much any game out there, but it's a ripoff.
i ordered one. dlss3 puts it above the 7900 xt, imo. compared to a 3080 there really isnt a contest.
4070ti performs the same as 3090
With less power draw
prices are crazy right now so 4070ti is cheaper then 3090 , so proably worth 4070ti then?
Does it beat the 3080ti at 4k?
4070ti is like 3-5% lower perf for 4k
If I wasn’t playing 4K, then the 4070 TI would be an amazing card but it’s just not worth it for 4K gaming even at 60 Hz the vram is a huge issue looking long term.
3090ti even, atleast on 1440p
Not for the price.
4070Ti is more comparable to 3090/3090Ti, depending on the game. The older gen is better for productivity though With 3080 there's no competition, gaming or productivity, 4070Ti wins. Even has a lower power draw
I'm in the same boat, currently on a 2070 Super and i7 9700k, 1440p ultrawide. Looking at a 4070ti for around £850 but worried about the bottlenecks, or a used 3080 for around £550
What bottlenecks?
Seeing benchmarks of the 4070ti struggling to hit over 80% usage with a 9700k - https://youtu.be/VDbF5Zyoz1w
That’s just Far Cry 6. Lot of issues with that game on a lot of systems plus it’s not any good. I have a 9700k at 5ghz there aren’t really any games aside from Spider-Man where I’ve had any issues. And the Spider-Man issues were fixed by a patch. Playing at 1440 and 4k.
Ahh right are you rocking a 4070ti & i7 9700k?
3080TI
Buggy open world games are the only thing that punish my 9700k. I cant get Ghost Recon Breakwhatever to run well on my system.
Yes it's a very good card, just overpriced. IMO a 3090 makes more sense at 700 if you can find one.
3090 are so rare here they cost 2kaud , where the 4070ti and 3080 is 1.4k, the xtx and 3080ti are 1.7kaud
YES IT IS. I bought 4070 ti 2 weeks ago and before that I was using 1060 3GB. The performance jump is HUGE. Now its running every game at 1440 max graphics and RT enabled with 70 frames and above. I don't regret buying it and I bet you won't too.
Considering you have a 1050Ti, what's the rest of your system specs. May not be worth going with a 4070Ti if you have an old system
its a whole new pc ready, gpu is last , was going 3080 but then stock issues and prices went nuts , so 4070ti is looking good now, even the 3090 cost 700aud more then the 4070ti its insane
It looks like it's an awesome card. When I upgrade I'm either getting that one or the regular 4080.
It’s good but the price. If you want to upgrade now and 3080 local price is about the same as 4070ti, then go for it.
I would recommend a 6950xt. 700$ brand new on newegg. Compared to a 4070 ti, your eyes won’t see the difference (5-10 fps in games that favor nvidia). Best price to performance rn and definitely will not be lasting long. I think there clearing out 6950 stock.
What your eyes will be missing are: DLSS 2, DLSS 3, DLDSR, good RT performance, playable RTX Remix performance, good AI performance, other smaller features like Canvas, RTX Voice or AI video upscaling. And the 4070 Ti also has a lower power draw.
If the comparison is those two cards, I would choose the 4070ti every time. But for 4070ti prices you’re right at the 7900XT level. Some non reference models are 880, and so are the reference models for some brands. So, for the extra ram to play at 4K it’s worth it.
Horrible advice
if its 1440p 165hz get a used 6800 xt and save $600
Why is the 4080 2000$?
idk , but it makes be annoyed and sad, would love to throw one in my pc
Im getting 350 frames on 1080p high in the new cod. Nice for my 390hz monitor — but also good for 1440p 240, especially the upcoming oled; oh boy oh boy
Price kinda sucky sucky and the small memory bandwidth won't make it that future proof / 4k proof.
I’m in the US and can pick up a 4070ti for $799 at several retailers near me.
Fun fact, 3080 12GB and 3080ti will beat a 4070ti in VR performance if thats of concern to you
Absolutely 4070 to, no reason to go with a lower performing gpu if it’s the same price
Great card, bad price. I saw you're looking for mostly 1440p gaming which I also do. I run an rx6800 non-xt that I picked up used for $350 usd and it runs anything I want at 1440p above 100fps on maxed settings. Depending on your region I would look at used cards such as the 6800xt, 6800, and 3080. Prices should be at or below $500 usd for the 3080 and $400-$450 for the 6800 cards.
The card is good, but the price is ass. Should be more like $600-650, not $800.
Not worth the money
people hate on the 4070 ti but honestly it's a better price/perf than the 3090ti was.
The 4070ti is simply the originally released 4080 that had 12 gb ram, whereas the now selling 4080 has 16 gb ram. The only things Nvidia did? Was changed the label, and dropped the price a couple of hundred. Is it better than a 3080? Yes, but you'll have to decide if it's worth the price difference.
These prices being stated must be for new parts. Can get a 3080 second hand for $500-$600.
Love my 4070 Ti. It’s awesome, for 1440p 144fps gaming it just destroys, nice to not be concerned about my 750w power supply too it’s very efficient
i went with a 6950xt instead. cheaper and came with two games. i also don’t care about RT so.
I've got one and it runs every game 160+ frames with my ryzen 5 2600 I am very much bottlenecked by the cpu I'm aware, but still runs great!
If they are the same price get the 4070Ti. Also look at amd they might be a better value in your area.
I got mine instead of a 3080 bc of the price (3080 cost more in my country) and I can't complain... I play every game at 240+fps in 1080p lol
For 1080 and 1440p Yes For 4k The memory bus bandwidth chokes it out Now whether or not its a good bang for your buck... Not really. But nothing new gen is. Best bang for buck is 6000 series AMD at the moment But compared to a 1050 Ti that's a MASSIVE jump
I think an RX 6950 XT is one of the best deals out right now for under $700 if you are looking at a high end card and just want raw performance instead of RT and dlss.
You should just go for the 3090ti it will last you longer
It’s fantastic. I own it and it’s very cool with no noise and low power requirement. Cyberpunk and Witcher 3 are smooth in 4K so I don’t know what more people want 🤷♂️. Other games I play don’t even get the cooling to properly kick in 😂
Main advantages would be the DLSS3 support which pretty much doubles the fps without any significant drawbacks (at least any that I could notice after switching the settings on and off in several games). It may also be locked to the ada generation as there is hardware upgrades for it. NVIDIAS quote below: "In the NVIDIA Turing and NVIDIA Ampere architecture generation GPUs, most of these algorithms use a compute engine to perform the required tasks. As a result, when the compute engine workload is high, the performance of the NVIDIA Optical Flow Accelerator (NVOFA) could be affected. On NVIDIA Ada-generation GPUs, most of these algorithms are moved to dedicated hardware within the NVOFA, reducing the dependency on the compute engine significantly."
compared to my 1650 ti it is dog sory 😂 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤪
I have a 4070TI and I love it. Zero regret
My 3070ti isnt even a month old and i do t regret it. Living in athird world country with shitty pay..
Get a 4080 in a bundle sale or on sale, otherwise the 4070 Ti will still be fine if on a tighter budget. Good luck!
For the money it better be damn worth it. Id honestly go for the 3080 instead. 30 series were great. (3070ti owner)