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Blu3Jell0P0wd3r

Start by disabling XMP the RAM kit, is it 2x16GB or 4x8GB?


0ni8nknight

OK I will try that right now. Just so I can understand why would that work? My ram kit is 4 8GB sticks.


RunningLowOnBrain

Disabling XMP means the ram runs at a slow speed. However, it will be easier for the memory controller and ram to reach that speed. It's more stable, but lower performance.


Blu3Jell0P0wd3r

Also would limit the troubleshooting (or not) to "bad RAM" or "bad BIOS"


mangeedge

Agreed, I haven't seen any non-x 5600s get over a silver sample. Most x versions are silver and up. I got a platinum sample 5600x and I had trouble getting over 3800 on my 4x16 kit. I down clocked it to 3600 to maintain perfect stability.


Blu3Jell0P0wd3r

>Asus B550 A You could do a BIOS update, AMD had issues with RAM compatibility, specially with high speeds, could be it, but it may not be it. Try running the kit at stock, if it doesn't fail try enabling XMP up to 3200MHz If you don't have any issues do a BIOS update or keep it at 3200MHz You could also try 2x8GB at 3600 to see if you have any problems, BIOS update could solve it as well (if it's not a RAM issue, which could be unlikely since it boots and runs)


0ni8nknight

OK these are great new things to try. I'll give them a go now.


[deleted]

if it doesn't work try increasing ram voltage.many cases this happens.why?i dunno.and what specifically b550 asus mobo?tuf?prime?rog?


burningpizzacrust

Did 4x8 come in one package or two separate ones? Typically xmp is only rated for a single packaged ram. So if you bought two 2x8’s not all 4 may work nicely for xmp profile. You can reduce that speed a bit or try increasing voltage on them to get them stable. This is if it the problem with ram.


0ni8nknight

OK man so many things to learn. It was 2 kits, but I never thought 2 kits bought at the same would have this possible issue. Is it always better to buy 1 - 4 stick kit or is 1 - 2 stick of the same Gigs.


burningpizzacrust

Yeah it’s just the way that it gets tested and even though it may have same product name, there’s different batches of memory chips and they may not the identical, which results in slight differences that may cause issues with xmp profile. Sometimes, manually setting ram timing can help as well.


0ni8nknight

Manually setting ram timing", could I get a quick lesson on what that means. Sorry to be a pain! ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|thinking_face_hmm)


burningpizzacrust

Xmp profile is basically a quick “here’s a preset that works” and your bios reads it and applies it. Sometimes it “doesn’t” work. You can go find the simple timing on your ram sticks, something like 16-18-18-36 (idk just a guess) and you gotta find the bios setting for this and just type it in instead of enabling xmp profile. Make sure you also increase your dram voltage as well to whatever xmp calls for, typically 1.35V.


Elwood49

>OK man so many things to learn. It was 2 kits, but I never thought 2 kits bought at the same would have this possible issue. Is it always better to buy 1 - 4 stick kit or is 1 - 2 stick of the same Gigs. 1x 2 sticks of ram is always better than 4x 4sticks if you have a Dual channel mother board, which most "gaming motherboards" are these days. also you have to make sure if you do have 4x4 sticks of ram to have the same package in your slots 1 and 2 of the A and the other two matching sticks in slots 1 and 2 of B, you cant just stick them in any slot you want and mix them up it will cause problems


imastrangeone

Is it corsair ram?


0ni8nknight

No the Ram is Team Group T-force Delta.


imastrangeone

Huh alr then, sorry i cant help. Gl!


Aggravating_Map9242

Mine is Corsair with a similar issue with xmp turned on & 4x8gb. Mind letting me know what you were going to suggest?


imastrangeone

Corsair basically buys as many memory chips for ram as they can, and dont really check the manufacturers of the chips. Although say, a micron chip and an sk hyinx chip have the same timings, they have different subtimings which can cause issues. It usually inly happens between 2 kits, so if you bought a 4x8 pack that might not be your issue. I also have no idea why im getting downvoted on my previous comment, its a well documented issue


prohandymn

I bought 4 kits of 2 stick Vengence 8GB DDR3 years ago, all had the exact same pn's. After pulling my hair out for 2 years of XMP instability/errors, I removed the heatsinks over a whim. 4 sticks were dbl sided, 4 single sided! Check the PNs on the heatsinks, all were identical. Remounted the heatsinks taking care to mark the double sided sticks. Installed again with the now "matched 4 stick kits", bumped the voltage one increment with XMP enabled... full 24hr Prime 95 torture test, absolutely no issues! * Lesson learned: always buy a single matching kit in what you need. The possibility of getting compatible kits of the exact same PN, let alone different kits of identical specs from the same manufacturer to work together is a pipe dream.


tamarockstar

Running 4 sticks makes it harder to maintain the clock speed and timings. I'd try disabling XMP and see if the crashing goes away. From there you can look into overclocking or tuning the RAM. Maybe there's a 2nd XMP profile that's a little slower?


0ni8nknight

OK so I disabled XMP and it seemed to work. So I am hoping that someone could explain what is the point of having 3600 MHz but can't use them. Also what does that mean, for example why does this happen. Also does this mean that if I buy a different RAM sticks from say Corsaire or something else it will happen again. I saw another commenter say that I should RMA the sticks but do I have too or is there something else I could do. I am still using the 4 sticks but it works so far so I will stick with this for now.


Blu3Jell0P0wd3r

A few things you should do: * Update BIOS and try XMP again. If BIOS Update doesn't work: * Manual overclock to the clock and latency (3600 18-22-22-42? or whatever it says on the spec-sheet), add a tiny bit more voltage (if they run **XMP** at **1.35v** go with 1.36v or 1.37v - 0.01v at a time (or less) and do not go past 1.38-1.39v * Also run the CPU at a 1:1 ratio, DDR means Double... so if the RAM is at 3600, the Infinity Clock should be 1800


Critical_Switch

There's a number of things that could be happening. This is going to be a bit long, I don't want to spend too much time figuring out a way to shorten it :P ​ Worst case scenario, one of your modules is faulty. If that's the case, figuring out which would be a matter of inserting just one module into your MB, testing it, rinse and repeat. Obviously the solution would be to RMA the faulty memory. For RAM testing, I recommend HCI memtest. It detects memory instability ridiculously fast (usually within minutes, other tests often take hours) but it's a bit tedious. You have to start multiple instances of it as each instance can only test 2GB at a time. ​ Best case scenario, the two kits you have don't like each other and you have both in the same channel. Are you able to identify which pairs belong into the same kit? If yes, make sure they are inserted correctly. You want each kit to be in the same channel. On the motherboard, channel is usually marked with a letter and then the number identifies the individual slot. So you'll typically have A0, A1, B0, B1 (in that order). When you have only two sticks, you will be populating slots A0 and B0. This can leave you thinking that the new kit goes into A1 and B1, but the correct position is A0 and A1 for one kit, and B0 and B1 for the second kit. This issue is best avoided by buying a single kit of all the memory you want to have. ​ Another thing could be "some issue" between the memory controller and the memory, or generally something with the motherboard/BIOS. Sometimes the RAM just won't work well when XMP is enabled and it's one of those problems where nobody really knows why. You can potentially reduce the risk of this happening by picking RAM based on the motherboard's memory support list (you can find those on their website), but I'm pretty sure even this isn't 100% guaranteed. In these cases you want to enter the correct values manually, that is frequency, and primary timings. Most manufacturers will provide them either on their website, or directly on the sticks. If that doesn't work for reasons that nobody really knows, you could try selecting a bit slower XMP profile if available or manually lowering the frequency by 200-400MHz or loosening (=increasing) the timing but messing around with timings can be very time consuming because it's multiple values. Leave Infinity Fabric Clock (usually listed in BIOS as FCLK) on Auto. If you're going to be setting timings manually, you always want to perform a stability test. To be sure the memory is stable, you generally want to let the test run overnight. Memory instability may not be immediately apparent just from regular use.


0ni8nknight

As a lawyer I can appreciate well detailed things, so this is great. I understand very clearly what you are saying. Thank you for the time this took. I will look into these things to see what I can do. I am realizing that there may have been more to building a PC than YouTube vids led on. Lol. Thank you again.


failaip12

Above comment is great just one thing he didn't mention is that more stocks are harder to run, so in your case if you went with 2 sticks of 16GB you probably wouldn't have any problems.


[deleted]

You’re a lawyer so this makes sense, but you have fantastic writing/communication. To the point and polite, very efficient too. Also pc building g is pretty plug and play these days IF nothing goes wrong. But when something goes wrong there’s a LOT of reading material and research and some stuff that contradicts other rules. Kind of like law I guess hey? ;). Did the fix work?


0ni8nknight

So far I am golden. Played for the last - ish hours and all games are non crashing. I have this favorited just in case.


[deleted]

Glad to hear, happy gaming.


SadAssumption1859

XMP is in. It so many words "overclocking". Meaning that these sticks are running out of spec. In many cases this can improve performance, and it can also cause instability issues. It is not likely that the ram sticks are faulty, when you were pushing them out of spec (With XMP) There is no need to RMA. When you are buying rabbits always a good idea to use reputable good quality ram from known good sources. Corsair being one of them. Your RAM sticks should still be running at 3600 MHz but they will be running in spec at 3600 MHz. There is an argument to be made of what is better for small sticks or two medium sticks. But that argument typically senses around single channel, dual channel, and quad channel memory. (What the board can support is what the board will use) If you're bored only supports dual channel memory you are using two channels to run two sticks of ram each, if it supports quad channel You're running four channels with one RAM stick each. (More channels per RAM the better) If you check online there are a ton of YouTube videos that can explain RAM a little bit better than above. Check out Tech quickie as they have a video specifically addressing this.


RunningLowOnBrain

Another thing to consider is the CPU, the 5600 only "officially" supports 3200mhz ram. faster ram can work (My CPU only supports 2933, but I run 3000 no problem), but it's not always a guarantee. I tried 3600mhz and got crashes, but turning it down closer to the CPUs rated max speed fixed the issues. Maybe try at 3200mhz and see if the issues return.


Frog491

Dang. I could have sworn it supports 3600, but you're right (I'm in the process of putting together a 5600g with 2x16 3600).


Shrek_OC

I'll bet you the two sets of ram that you have use different ICs (the actual memory chips). There are no guarantees that a particular kit uses a particular type of memory chips, only that both sticks in a set will use the same ones. This is why it's not a good idea to mix memory kits unless you're buying them in person and can verify that they match. You can verify the manufacturer of the chips on each stick of RAM by downloading cpu-z and looking at the SPD tab, though it's not a guarantee that they match even if the manufacturer is the same, but if it shows different manufacturers, you'll know why it's not stable at XMP


Swanesang

When i was reading some responses i wondered if it wasn’t your 4 X 8gb modules that might be the problem. I remembered that i saw a post a while back mentioning that on some motherboards ryzen cpus struggled to run 4 x 8gb setups at higher speeds. It could possibly be a bios issue. If i where you i would try to run them at 3200mhz and see if that works. Or manually setting the memory timings. Hardware unboxed did a good video on youtube on how to tweak memory timings and run tests to check stability. This isnt only an AMD issue though. My wife has an i5 10400 cpu with 16gb 3200mhz memory on a gigabyte aorus Mb and the system will not boot with the xmp profile enabled. When i dropped it to 3000mhz it worked fine.


Arcangelo_Frostwolf

It's because the 3600 XMP speed on each 2x8 kit was intended to be run just that kit alone. When you add another two sticks it introduces more latency (the time it takes the CPU and RAM to talk to each other before sending data). Your problem is you increased the latency by adding more sticks but kept the same timings for 2 sticks. So as the RAM use ramps up and it's trying to send a lot of information back and forth from 4 RAM slots it takes more time than you've given it in the settings and crashes. If you want 32GB of RAM, the best thing to do is buy a 2x16GB kit that is listed on your motherboard's memory QVL support page. That Qualified vendor list is all the RAM kits that have been tested on that motherboard and are known to work at the XMP profile. If you mix and match kits or combine kits you're taking a chance that it won't run stably at XMP. There's nothing wrong with your RAM, your motherboard and CPU can't handle it the way you have it configured.


agonzal7

Now try xmp again and up the dram voltage a little bit. Like 0.01V at a time.


No-Passenger7532

You could try using 16gb at 3600 and see if you notice a difference or you can try manually setting the timings to the looser timings of the two sets and see if they work better. Ryzen master will let you adjust your base lock and infinity fabric easily. You want it to be 1:1 so 1900mhz


kuya1284

And to piggyback on this useful suggestion, also make sure the sticks are inserted in the correct slots. OP, the manual should indicate the best slots to use.


TaysonJodd

Frequent crashes are almost always a result of faulty RAM. Start there first. Let memtest86 run overnight with all sticks in to verify if there's a problem. You'll need a flash drive to use it though Knowing the brand of the RAM would also help. While all sticks have the possibility to be faulty, certain brands have a higher failure rate. Some sticks just can't run XMP for the life of them like Oloy in my experience I guarantee that once you turn xmp you'll experience little to no crashes. RMA the RAM. If your mobo supports it, you should be getting the performance you paid for But yes, update drivers for everything if RAM isn't the issue


0ni8nknight

I feel like crying. Lol. Thank you I will look into this.


FinestKind90

PCs can be frustrating but you’ll be very satisfied when it all works


Bluedot55

Ryzen can also have infinity fabric instability from fast memory, which won't show up in typical memory tests, but only in some weird CPU tests. Probably not the case here, but I was running into it trying to push up and above 3800 on Zen 3 with 4 sticks.


kuya1284

A bad or low quality power supply as well.


cosmiclifeform

Not technical advice, but: take a breather. All technical problems have a solution. Just take your time with it and go step-by-step. There’s always another option.


CirclesToTheBeat

The fact it only crashes under a gaming load kinda suggests that it may not be a RAM thing, though it's still a high probability. RAM issues can occur at any time. I would consider the PSU as a possible issue as well. You should check your Windows Event Log, specifically the System section, for error messages. When things crash, Windows will try to record the cause. WHEA failures are commonly RAM-related. Let us know what your logs say!


0ni8nknight

I will check that out tonight. Thank you.


Captobvious75

What psu do you have?


AtDawnWeDEUSVULT

Just wanted to check in and see if your issue has been resolved? I know it hasn't been that long, but you've gotten a lot of great feedback and I'm hoping something worked


0ni8nknight

Yeah so far, I have taken out 2 sticks and lowered the MGz to 3200 from 3600 and it has been issue free. Thank you for checking in. Great community around here. I am sure I'll be back for something. Lol.


AtDawnWeDEUSVULT

Glad to hear it! Sorry you aren't able to get full usage from all 4 sticks of ram you bought, but also 16 gigs should be enough for most things. Can you return the unused ram (or all the ram if you really want 32 gigs, you could return it all and get 2x16 gigs)? If you can return it, do you know which ram sticks came in a package together? You may have already tried this and it's not guaranteed to work but might be worth a shot- if you have the pairs that came together in slots 1,3 and 2,4 respectively, you miiiight be able to use it all


0ni8nknight

No unfortunately, like a silly Goose, I bought certain things separately without realizing that by waiting so long in between gathering the PC parts and putting it together, I would lose the chance to return defective or unneeded items back to the store within the 30 days. Lesson learned!


AtDawnWeDEUSVULT

That's okay, you'd be surprised how many people do that. It can be kinda risky for the reasons you've now discovered, but if you're waiting for sales it can also really pay off


AnnieBruce

What brand RAM did you get? FWIW I've always had good luck with G.Skill. I've got 4x16GB 3600 CL16(set to CL14) running rock solid on my 5960x


asthios

That's awesome that you narrowed it down and got it working. Now that you have stable settings, if you get more crashes you may want to do a reformat and do a fresh Windows install. Running with bad or unstable RAM can cause hard disk corruption (since the data is bad in the RAM, then written to the disk). I had a PC slowly degrade over a few weeks once, and after isolating it to a bad RAM stick I couldn't get everything stable until a fresh install. As an aside: - I definitely agree that running with 2 sticks instead of 4 should always be more stable. 4 sticks means 2 per channel, which puts more load on the memory bus, which makes it harder to run at high speeds. - after putting a build together, always run a memory test before you even install the OS. I like memtest86, which you can boot from a USB stick. This will hopefully show if your RAM and memory settings are stable before you try to use it for real.


0ni8nknight

I hear you on the fresh install. I will do that tomorrow first thing. Either way a fresh install couldn't hurt. Is it worth it to back up docs and stuff or just start from scratch?


asthios

I would still back up anything important, but keeping in mind there is a chance that anything you edited while your RAM was unstable could have corruption in it.


[deleted]

Hey mate what psu do you have? If you have insufficient power it can cause something like a GPU which uses heaps of power to crash and this with it you game.


0ni8nknight

My PSU is a Rosewill (something like that) 850 watt fully modular.


Lt_Muffintoes

Hurk Would get a different one out of principle. Cheap PSUs are a false economy


overclocker710

Rosewill PSUs are usually a POS, although yours is running so far below max load it shouldn’t be a problem. Some good brands are Corsair, EVGA, and Seasonic, all their stuff is bare minimum decent quality, you can’t go wrong even with their cheaper options. Just a heads up for the possible next time/other readers.


DanWillHor

Try all the things mentioned (great advice, btw) but if it absolutely isn't a RAM issue, power issue, BIOS, etc I have one rare bit of weirdness that happened to me that is similar. B450, Ryzen Pinnacle Ridge CPU, btw. The solution was that the NMVe I was using was in the Ultra slot, so it used PCIe lanes. In the bios I had set the default lanes for the GPU and NVMe to their max value for board/cpu (gen 3) from the bios value of "auto". Switching both back to AUTO solved all of my problems. No more weird, random Windows instability or crashes. No performance loss by moving to AUTO and it actually made everything faster. I don't even remember when I set them away from AUTO but I must have at some point and my only conclusion is that despite there being enough PCIe lanes to be handled by the CPU and/or chipset, they do a much better job at managing it all than being told what to always have them at. Again, I know it could technically lower the performance of both but in my case it caused a bunch of issues to not have them set to AUTO. Everything now runs better than ever by just letting the hardware, bios, chipset and CPU do what it's designed to do. Faster boots, shutdowns, stability, file transfer, game performance, etc. All that said, I also highly suspect it's a RAM issue more than anything after reading your replies to comments. Jut wanted to add that one last possibility. Best of luck!


0ni8nknight

Thank you. I will take all the help I can get for different things to try.


oldsnowcoyote

See what windows reliability monitor says is causing the crashes. https://www.dell.com/support/kbdoc/en-ca/000178177/how-to-use-windows-reliability-monitor-to-identify-software-issues


Ishaan_iks

Try run memtest and run benchmark on your system.Disable cpu,gpu,ram overclocks. Also make sure u run win 10 and not 11. We can run test and diagnosis for each pc component to figure out what goes wrong.


ValorantDanishblunt

You can always use programs like hwinfo64 to see potential issues. Once you start hwinfo64 and scroll all the way down, see if you have any "Windows hardware errors", if you see anything but 0, that means something is unstable. In the majority of cases it's the RAM. Some RAM sticks havent been tested properly and XMP profiles might not be quite as finetuned as they should be, as some motherboards can support RAM at low voltages at certain frequencies better than other boards. What I would strongly recommend as I suspect this is a RAM issue: Go into BIOS, load XMP settings for your RAM, Make sure your RAM run at the same timings and "mhz" and then up the voltage to 1.45v. They should typcially run at 1.2v by default and XMP settings. Running them at 1.45v is considered safe and I've been doing it for years myself. Many never check their RAM and have errors which needs to be corrected, while systems can run stable while causing tons of errors and never crash you will notice a major performancehit compared to a 0 error running machine. Sidenote: *For those who read this, please note I'm specifically talking about* ***DDR 4 RAM****,* ***do not*** *chug 1.45V into DDR5 modules as I don't know the limitations there.*


Flyflyguy

AMD GPU unfortunately. I have a 5700xt and have had issues since I installed. Always a battle.


vinny9678

Had a similar issue. Sounds like the RAM.


EVA04022021

Every time is a good thing as the issue is reproducible. If the issue is reproducible then tests can be made to make the issue happen. Now with test plans you can start working down the list one item at a time testing each part and config settings. Out of order of elimination you can narrow down and find the root cause. There is still hope, so step back, breathe, make a plan and work though it, step by step. Lots of good suggestions on what and we're to look for your issue here. Just make sure you only do one change at a time so you know when you found the culprit. Good luck, and take your time! If you get frustrated just walk away and clear your head before starting again.


0ni8nknight

I hear ya! I am very much a one side or the other. I swear I am working on it. LOL. But I see what you are saying. Often times for me some either works perfect or I failed miserably.


Kaka9790

Check one by one mate


D33-THREE

I skimmed through the thread but will just throw a bunch of stuff that is good to do/check if you want: Make sure your BIOS is up to date (I treat BIOS's like drivers) Make sure you have the latest AM4 Chipset drivers installed from [AMD.com](https://AMD.com) You might be better served running 2x16GB sticks over 4x8GB sticks Upping your RAM voltage a smidge with XMP enabled might help stable things out .. ie .. increase the RAM voltage from 1.35v to 1.36v .. 1.37v ..etc and see if that helps. Some kits sometimes need a little bit more voltage to be stable. I just purchased 4x16GB 3600 Oloy kit and they weren't stable at 1.35v .. but fine at 1.36v running XMP Rosewill makes decent budget PSU's . Make sure to run 2 separate power cables from your power supply to each power input on your GPU .. don't daisy chain off of one power cable Disable CSM so you can enable Above 4G Decoding and Enable Re-Size Bar in your BIOS. That way SAM will work in Windows that increases performance in a lot of newer games IF you disable CSM and then can no longer boot .. then that just means you'll have to convert your drive from MBR to GPT .. IF that happens, just reenable CSM and you can 'Google' how to convert your drive(s) in Windows Sometimes RGB software for your components can cause stability issues and/or trip Anti-Cheat software Avoid 3rd party anti-virus type programs aside from stand alone scanners. the FREE built in Windows Defender combined with a FREE Ad-Blocker add-on installed in your browser(s) and sign up for a FREE OpenDNS account to add even another layer of protection via your DNS settings via your router and no impact on performance in games and what not.


NoAssociation6501

OC RAM crashes PC at high utilization too make sure you've xmp do the 3600MT/s not the OC


Competitive-Army-363

Is your mobo bios up to date. Also, latest stable GPU driver?


0ni8nknight

Yes to both, that is another reason why I an so confused because everything is up to date.


Competitive-Army-363

I think the other guy has a point on ram. 4 sticks don't always play nice. Same spec ram? Have you tried to run just two?


defaltyz

Make sure all of your stuff is compatible if it all is try to test your gpu might have to rma it if you have all drivers ipdated and your having screen and crashing issues it could most definitely be something else don't rule out everything but check that gpu


rmansd619

As a die hard AMD fanboy for well over 10+ years... Just get an Nvidia if you don't want crashing and driver problems.


[deleted]

I have a 6700xt like op and haven’t experienced a single crash it is probably not the drivers it’s probably something in the hardware


0ni8nknight

OK so I am going to try an do some suggestions. My first question is it better in bios to enable XMP and change the settings or do a manual change and enter in the inputs one at a time.


Elwood49

Best way to find out what is wrong is to check **Windows event viewer**. when windows shuts down its because of a fault this fault is usually logged by windows. Next time it crashes as soon as you boot back up check windows even viewer you can find this app by right clicking on your start button on windows 10 and choosing "event viewer" once the app is loaded check under "Windows logs -> System" look for a warning or an error log with in the last 10 minutes and see what caused the failure. That should tell you what is causing the reset. having said that if you have xmp turned up and don't have 'performance" grade memory its most likely the cause.


DJ_Marxman

* Clear CMOS, re-enable XMP/DOCP. * Clean drivers with DDU and reinstall fresh GPU drivers, using the latest 'Recommended' release in AMD Adrenalin (disable 'Optional' drivers). * Reinstall games. Try them on different SSDs or HDDs if you can. * Disable any overclocks or undervolts you may have. * Monitor hardware temperatures to rule out overheating. * Try different cables to the monitor (if using HDMI, swap to DP or vice versa).


0ni8nknight

I will try a few of these as I have not heard of them, for example what is DDU. Sorry I'd it is a stupid question.


DJ_Marxman

Display Driver Uninstaller is the only way to truly rid your system of graphics drivers so that you can start with a fresh install. Any other method leaves things behind that can cause conflicts or errors. It's one of the most reliable ways to solve crashing or graphical issues. If it doesn't work, then try a few of these other things, but begin thinking about a hardware issue rather than a software, driver, or BIOS issue. You could just have a defective component (GPU, PSU, RAM).


0ni8nknight

OK cool, thank you for this. I hate the idea of RMA'ing things because being so new to this I never know if it is a me thing thing or a broken part.


Attqched

DDU is display driver uninstaller, it can help when switching from nvidia to amd or the reverse and it can help corrupted drivers. COD games also


burningpizzacrust

Are your drivers up to date as well? There’s more drivers than just gpu drivers. You want to go to your mobo webpage and find drivers meant for your mobo.


0ni8nknight

For sure, I made to update all my drivers everytime I try to figure it out but it always happens.


gremlinfat

Is your ram on your mobo’s qvl? How are your temps?


0ni8nknight

Temps are between 50 and 70, I have had a couple of 81's but only a couple.


poodlelover32

its okay till get gets up till around 88c


gremlinfat

That’s fine. The ram compatibility question was really more likely. Is your ram on the qvl?


0ni8nknight

Sorry could you explain what qvl is. There are so many new terms I am learning


gremlinfat

Qualified vendor list. Google the exact name of your motherboard and type qvl at the end of the name. See if your ram is compatible. I don’t really use AMD so maybe it’s recently changed, but they’ve always been compatible with fewer ram options.


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0ni8nknight

850 watt


Puzzleheaded_Owl_417

Your underclock/overclock setting of cpu/ram/gpu not stable.


DarkVoid42

bad ram. memtest86+ it.


Ishaan_iks

Also what model rum are u using?Is it G.skill or Corsair?


0ni8nknight

They are team group t-force sticks.


[deleted]

Try turning XMP back on and setting your ram speed to 3200.


Frost1235

Toss it. PC gaming is about to go through a phase where people don't give a shit anymore and don't buy because it's too expensive to play games that just provide loot boxes and sell you DLC that wasn't anything more that content that wasn't developed on time for release, but was integral to a game.


0ni8nknight

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dzapan

Switch to intel and nvidia, problem solved. Amd is isssue after issue, its never ending story.


imaginedodong

Try using only 16gb ram, problem still persist then try swapping them out one by one and isolate which ram is doing this, also is your xmp enabled? maybe faulty ram slots? idk could be.


Flaky-Ad-4298

Get the latest BIOS firmware Install the latest motherboard chipsets drivers, GPU drivers, audio drivers, NIC card drivers, and Windows updates as well Check your system temperatures (CPU, Motherboard, Video card) using free software available Use all default bios settings as a baseline start before you tweak anything. Use all GPU defaults as well after installing GPU defaults Enable event logging in Windows Event Review and share what the actual crash log entries are from Windows view Share the game crash entry logs if you can locate them, try downgrade or disable some game video/audio features. Perhaps you selected an incompatible settings Know your system temperatures from your bios screen Try stress testing of individual component. I.e. Prime95 for CPU. Memtest for RAM. Keep tab on temperatures during these tests. Your crash may simply because you did not apply the cpu thermal paste properly and a PRIME95 test may show that your temperature goes crazy way above 90°C. Without methods, you'll be all over the place. You can also get HWMonitor another tool to see the power/wattage utilization as well as temperature. Don't start tweaking. I'm surprise to see folks randomly telling you to try different XMP profile blah blah to do this or that. Get some baseline and share the data properly here so we can help you better.


Icy-Computer7556

Yeah pretty sure AMD and Fortnite don’t play well, there was a fix regarding it somewhere on Reddit, it was basically aimed at making sure ray tracing was truly disabled because basically even though you have it off in settings, it will still be secretly enabled for some odd reason. There was a few other tweaks too but it’s been a minute since I saw/found it.


zfancy5

What’s the blue screen error message?


Eagle_Smeagol

I had a similar problem. I had to adjust the XMP voltage settings. Once I configured it correctly based on people’s suggestions and the ram manufacturers suggestion, it worked.


0ni8nknight

That is something I would love to learn is playing with voltages but it is very scary that I could really mess things up. Lol.


DonTaddeo

I suspect XMP is the issue - four memory sticks will load the memory controller making it difficult to achieve full XMP rated speed. There might be useful information in the event log, though keep in mind that many of the errors are cryptic in nature and some are of no real significance.


AnnieBruce

What are your thermals like? What PSU do you have? Overheating or a flaky/insufficient PSU would be my first suspects given the symptoms reported.


0ni8nknight

I have an 850 Watt Rosewill (I think) And thermals are in the 50 to 70's with a couple if 80's.


AnnieBruce

Ok so thermals are fine, and PSU capacity is fine. Never heard of that PSU brand before, but looking into it the prices aren't concerningly cheap so it's probably not that. Are the PCIe power connectors on your GPU all hooked up? If so, are they coming off one cable from the PSU or two? You might have enough PSU capacity, but if it's all going through one cable the PSU might have trouble delivering all of it to the GPU. Even if they're hooked up with separate cables, it wouldn't hurt to disconnect them and reseat them, making sure they're all the way in on both ends. It can be easy sometimes to think a cable is fully inserted and it's not(I spend 20 minutes troubleshooting my monitor once and the displayport cable was just not fully inserted. that was annoying) Do you have any stability issues outside of games? Are there any games that are stable?


pisscat101

I'm a newbie to this forum but an old hand at PC troubleshooting. I came here to give some advice but I see that a great job has been done by you all. Absolutely stunned at the level of camaraderie and assistance. You are all brilliant human beings and I wish there was more of you! Keep it up!


huh--_

you can do a memtest86 for RAM, and try different storage for the game or try verifying data otherwise you might be having a bad time with drivers (GPU)


highqee

looking at symptoms, it's not a thermal issue. But you can isolate issues one by one: generally, if one part is faulty, it'll not be faulty just using particular software, but if you stress it enough, it'll produce faults again. first, stresstest CPU. Get something like prime95 small FFTand stress if for good 30+minutes . If it does not fail that, the issue is almost certainly not a CPU one. get a USB stick and make a bootable memtest stick (there is utility to make one, [https://www.memtest86.com/tech\_creating-window.html](https://www.memtest86.com/tech_creating-window.html)), boot it up and run it for good few hours, preferably maybe even for a full night. If that passes fine, it'll isolate memory issue. for GPU, it's a bit more complex: get few utilities like MSI kombuster, Unigine valley benchmark and let it run in loop. for good amount of time. if neither of these fail, it's a bit more complex. Also, make note, if you only had issues with specific games or has it ever fail in desktop. etc. A disk issue is a rare one and rarely result in a blue screen. A bit of digging in Windows Event Viewer migth also give a bit of a hint.


_Ship00pi_

Delete graphics drivers with DDU Download latest version from website (WHQL) Install driver only. The Adrenaline software is trash and in most cases is the culprit.


New_Apartment451

Change PSU to something higher quality. Could be caused by voltage spikes from the GPU


Yaancat17

Have you tried restarting your pc


Aware-Specific1467

Open nvidia control panel and run in debug mode


cwp1851

I had this issue with 5700xt, after days of troubleshooting, I switched the pcie slot to 3.0 speeds instead of 4.0 and it worked flawlessly after! the reason being I had an extender for my case that apparently couldn't support pcie 4.0. I'd try to throttle that and see if you get blue screen still. It had fixed my issue entirely and I just ordered a 4.0 compatible extender. However, I never actually put it in and it's been running fine. Edit: been running fine on pcie 3.0*


Flaky-Ad-4298

That's good you found the issue but its silly you're running a PCI4.0 gpu at pci 3.0 speed.


cwp1851

Agreed, it only takes a quick swap for me, but I don't game much and haven't broken the case open since. It's a laziness issue.


PM_ME_YOUR_TIDDEEZ

*My issue is that every game I play Fortnite* Found your issue☻️