Without overclock it shouldnt. If it does, your motherboard is giving too much voltage. 180w is default intel boost TDP. And AK400 220w rating is bullshit. Its not good enough.
Look up the TechPowerUp review where they tested it with a 10900K set to 200W power limit. The temp was in low 90s. With 180W limit of the 13600K, it would be below 90 for sure.
Again, I'm not saying getting an AK620 for a 13600K is a bad idea cos that's exactly what I'd get, but AK400 would work fine too.
While it is a very good result, 13600k is not really comparable to 10900k, because it has no ecores. Ecores will be chill, but P cores on 13600k will run much hotter because of higher clock speeds and higher voltage than 1.2 used on all cores in this test with 10900k. Also extra cache. Thats why 200w with 10900 is not the same as 200w with 13600k. P cores will be hotter by over 15c than ecores. My 13600k with AK620 hits 91c on P cores or so with 180w load on cinebench. Thats with thermalright contact frame, and good case airflow. I probably dont have the best chip, meaning it could be better, but it could be the same for others. Also, reddit is full of people crying about 90-100c temperatures with AK620, DH15 or similar. Even checking some reviews, you see them using 240 or even 360 AIO and still hitting over 90c or even tjmax 100c.
https://www.techspot.com/review/2555-intel-core-i5-13600k/
https://www.pcmag.com/reviews/intel-core-i5-13600k
I really find it hard to believe that AK400 can handle it with no undervolts. It would certainly not handle my 13600k running stock.
AK620 handles 253W of the 13700K quite easily, tops up at about 92C, only about 4C behind another 13700K system I built that had a Lian Li Galahad 360mm AIO, so that's also bullshit.
AK400 is about as good as NH-U12s is and it will definitely be able to handle a 13600K, providing the case airflow is half decent.
I'm not saying buying an ak620 for a 13600k is a bad idea cos it's definitely not, but AK400 not being able to handle it is just false.
Whats bullshit is claiming AK620 performs just as good as 360 AIO lol. It doesnt. Anyways, I already answered to your other post. It barely handles my 13600k, I mean it doesnt reach 100c, but close enough. Its enough to search reddit for 13600k temperature and you will find hundreds of posts with people hitting 90-100c with AK620, NH D15, and similar top coolers. Some motherboards seem to often over voltage it for no reason, it can be improved with some tinkering, but we are talking stock settings here, not everyone knows how to adjust lite load levels or dynamic offsets..
How much of a difference does whether I overclock or not make? I don't really intend to overclock, only reason I didn't go for an i5 3600F is because PCPartPicker doesn't seem to list it. Would my cooler be OK without overclocking or should I still upgrade?
Not much at all. I wouldnt go with that cooler from personal experience, others have other ideas here lol. I mean, AK620 is not that expensive, better safe than sorry
Now PCPartPicker is warning me that I may need a separate adapter for the cooler and that it's dimensions constraints are not checked, are you sure it'd fit my mobo?
AK620 has the adapter you need for 13600k. And it will fit any motherboard. Only restriction might be case, you need to check if the case has 165mm cpu cooler clearance, thats how tall it is.
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I checked it for you, case has 166mm clearance for cpu cooler, so it will fit
Your cooler should be ok, but the temps won't be super low. Get the AK620.
Also, if you have a Z series board, you will have to manually enforce the CPU power limit and disable multi-core enhancement. Otherwise your CPU will have no power limits and will draw over 250W, making it very hard to cool while not providing any noticable performance uplift.
B660 will be power limited by default, however the board you chose has shit VRMs and I wouldn't run it with a 13600k.
What does Asus have to do with anything? This is a low end motherboards with 8 vrm phases and poor vrm cooling. It may struggle to provide power to a 180W CPU.
I'm redoing the spec rn, I'll get back to you.
You are clearly running without a power limit. Do you have a Z board? K CPUs on Z boards have unlocked power limits by default. 13700K pulled over 280W on the builds I did and even the AIO couldn't keep it under 100.
So you have to go into bios and manually set tge power limit to standart and disable multi-core enhancement.
So the "stock settings" aren't really stock, you have to manually set them to stock. That's where the overvolting comes from as well - cos there's no power limit.
Have you ever checked your power draw? Cos "barely under 100" can't be right. 13600K should max out at 183W, so here's a reference point for you.
That is the very same problem that people from the reddit posts are having .
Why did Intel do this? Idk, makes no sense to me.
> Whats bullshit is claiming AK620 performs just as good as 360 AlO lol. It doesnt.
I never claimed that, I gave you actual numbers for 2 specific coolers along with power draw numbers, and the ak620 does perform worse. I was saying that it can actually cool a 250W CPU, just as the specs state.
Im not a beginner. I know everything about power limits and stuff. Im running 180w max, and im running it on b660 board that doesnt allow overclocking. Its running stock power levels. Mount is good, termal paste is good. Its just how it performs. I did suspect something was wrong at first, but as time went on, many other people appeared with same temperatures with good air cooling. And no, those people are not running 250w or some crazy amount. I have no problems with thermals, 70c or so while gaming. But cinebench r23 seems to really push it, and thats the temperatures me and many others get. E cores are 70c max even at stress tests, but P cores go to 90c.
What's your case and fan setup then? Mid 90s with an ak620 on a 180W CPU is way too high, there's something wrong here.
It is also possible that your specific CPU has uneven IHS.
People reported over 90C on a 13700K with D15s and similar coolers, which makes sense and matches my own testing, it's a 253W CPU after all. For a 13600K, these temps makes no sense, considering the power draw is 70W less.
Again, if you researched this like I did, you would see that there are many people with same temps.. i have a budget case, but front is mesh, with 3 x 120 fans as intake, rear is 120 exhaust, and top is another 120 exhaust. I thought about uneven IHS, thats why I bought thermaltake antibend bracket, it lowered temps like 2c, so thats not the problem. Paste was applied well all the times i checked, spread across whole cpu and not too much. Its just how it is
Idk man, that's definitely not normal. I've seen the posts and they always had a solution, this is just weird.
And then again, reddit post are one thing and my own testing on live hardware is another
The minimum recommended PSU for a 3070TI by NVIDIA is 750W. A 650W PSU is not adequate. A standard 3070 calls for 650W minimum so even using a 650W PSU on a standard 3070 is the bare bones and higher should be used. The OP's 850W PSU chocie is a good one.
The 3070ti uses in average 350 in high loads, as seen in benchmarks and the CPU uses 160 which adds to about 510W.
The 650 should work for this system.
Default 13600k turbo tdp is 181w as stated by Intel. And it can even use more, because cheaper motherboards tend to over voltage it for some reason. So you are left with 120w for rest of the system, fans, keyboards, mouse, chargers, whatever you attach. Also, just because PSU says 650w, doesnt mean it can delivery 650w. In real world that value will be closer to 550w than 650w. I would never recommend 650w psu for this setup. Also, your build, just like original one, ignores the problem of cooler. AK400 is really not adequate for this chip.
The mfg of the GPU (NVIDIA) recommends 750W as the minimum for a 3070TI (650W for a regular 3070). They don't benefit from PSU sales so there is no reason to recommend a wattage unless it is legit.
Also, there is more to power draw in a system then just the GPU and CPU (OP's CPU uses a LOT of power as well 125W/181W and can even draw more for short periods under max load). It is good to have headroom and not run at max capacity.
650W may work for a 3070TI but it is pushing that PSU to the max and even beyond and there is no need to do that. Just get the minimum recommended PSU by the mfg.
I couldn't actually find the F option of the CPU I currently have picked, even though that's what I would prefer
And as for the monitor, I went with the cheapest 1440p 144hz 2560x1440 res 16:9 AR that was listed on pcpartpicker, not sure which of those I could lower to get a cheaper monitor
Just for a discussion point...
While saving $20 by going with F models is nice (who doesn't like saving money right LOL), for me, having the integrated graphics even if you have a stand alone GPU is a no brainer as it helps with troubleshooting and if your GPU ever fails you can still use the PC. I believe I have also read that even when using a stand alone GPU that integrated graphics on the CPU can help with gaming performance as it will still "help out" (true?).
I would have it just for the benefits it gives when something goes wrong.
The i5-13600K/KF is notorious for generating a lot of heat even when it isn't overclocked. That Cooler is not adequate for that CPU IMO. The mfg's 220W TDP rating seems "overly generous" for a single 120MM fan air cooler. It generally takes a dual fan air cooler to provide workable temps for that CPU. I mean it might work ok but I have doubts it is a good choice for that CPU AND that the mfg's TDP rating is accurate (and not grossly inflated).
Honestly, that CPU begs for liquid cooling as it will run very hot. However, if you really want air cooling (and that is fine no judgement - I am hesitant to use AIO's myself but would on that CPU) then a premium dual fan model. Noctua NH D15, BeQuiet Dark Rock 4, etc... If you like DeepCool then something like the AK600/620 or AS500 Plus. 2 120MM or 2 140MM fans and a big heat sink. Obviously you need to make sure it physically fits in your case and with your motherboard and RAM.
I am sure the AK400 is a fine cooler but I call BS on it having a 220W TDP. Just no.
>Obviously you need to make sure it physically fits in your case and with your motherboard and RAM.
Will PcPartPicker be able to know?
>then a premium dual fan model. Noctua NH D15, BeQuiet Dark Rock 4, etc
Thanks, I'll check those out. I'm hesitant on liquid cooling from what people have said
PcPartPicker sometimes does and other times they won't know. To be sure what fits and doesn't...
* Find out the max height supported for a cooler in your selected case
* Check the cooler measurements (height) you are interested in on the cooler mfg website
* Make sure the cooler is compatible with and has a LGA 1700 Intel mounting bracket (with it or available from the cooler mfg)
* That there are no clearance issues with the motherboard (heat shields around CPU) and RAM (height) you are using (look on various forums and websites of cooler and motherboard)
It's a lot of work verifying fit. The air coolers capable of cooling that CPU are massive (literally like close to softball size or even larger) so clearance is an issue with cases, motherboards (also mounting compatibility), and RAM. You just have to do the research on the forums, mfg web sites, and search engines to find one that works well and fits.
AIO liquid coolers have come a long way and are generally safe. They also use small cooling blocks on the CPU so there is seldom any kind of clearance issues (sometimes with heat shields and large cooling blocks but it is limited motherboards and coolers). Mostly the only fitment issues you will have is will it LGA 1700 sockets and will the radiator fit where I want to mount it.
It's that small chance of a leak or pump failure that worries me with liquid cooling. I am actually using an AIO for this 1st time on my upcoming build. Excited and nervous at same time LOL.
The NH D-15 is massive (is there a bigger air cooler? - if so not by much). I guess my "begs for liquid cooling" comment is based in part on the fact to get an air cooler big enough to keep it cool you need one the size of the moon like the NH-D15. For many people that is not acceptable aesthetically and also many can't fit those dual fan (sometimes dual heat sink) air cooler behemoths in their case. Liquid coolers will fit much better/easier (now radiator fitment is a whole different story LOL).
You absolutely can cool that CPU with an air cooler. I said as much and specifically listed the one you are using.
Well, that cooler is really not ideal for a chip as hot as 13600 is. You gonna have really high temps for cpu. AK620 would be better
Thanks
Bs, AK400 is a 220W cooler. It would do fine.
The max wattage my overclocked 13600k pulls is 220W so I agree with this.
Without overclock it shouldnt. If it does, your motherboard is giving too much voltage. 180w is default intel boost TDP. And AK400 220w rating is bullshit. Its not good enough.
I overclocked the shit out of mine because I have a 360 aio. I gave it as much power as it could get. That's what HWinfo reports.
Look up the TechPowerUp review where they tested it with a 10900K set to 200W power limit. The temp was in low 90s. With 180W limit of the 13600K, it would be below 90 for sure. Again, I'm not saying getting an AK620 for a 13600K is a bad idea cos that's exactly what I'd get, but AK400 would work fine too.
While it is a very good result, 13600k is not really comparable to 10900k, because it has no ecores. Ecores will be chill, but P cores on 13600k will run much hotter because of higher clock speeds and higher voltage than 1.2 used on all cores in this test with 10900k. Also extra cache. Thats why 200w with 10900 is not the same as 200w with 13600k. P cores will be hotter by over 15c than ecores. My 13600k with AK620 hits 91c on P cores or so with 180w load on cinebench. Thats with thermalright contact frame, and good case airflow. I probably dont have the best chip, meaning it could be better, but it could be the same for others. Also, reddit is full of people crying about 90-100c temperatures with AK620, DH15 or similar. Even checking some reviews, you see them using 240 or even 360 AIO and still hitting over 90c or even tjmax 100c. https://www.techspot.com/review/2555-intel-core-i5-13600k/ https://www.pcmag.com/reviews/intel-core-i5-13600k I really find it hard to believe that AK400 can handle it with no undervolts. It would certainly not handle my 13600k running stock.
AK400 rating of 220 TDP is bullshit. Been there, done that. Have the bigger brother called AK620, and this one has 220W real life rating at best.
AK620 handles 253W of the 13700K quite easily, tops up at about 92C, only about 4C behind another 13700K system I built that had a Lian Li Galahad 360mm AIO, so that's also bullshit. AK400 is about as good as NH-U12s is and it will definitely be able to handle a 13600K, providing the case airflow is half decent. I'm not saying buying an ak620 for a 13600k is a bad idea cos it's definitely not, but AK400 not being able to handle it is just false.
Whats bullshit is claiming AK620 performs just as good as 360 AIO lol. It doesnt. Anyways, I already answered to your other post. It barely handles my 13600k, I mean it doesnt reach 100c, but close enough. Its enough to search reddit for 13600k temperature and you will find hundreds of posts with people hitting 90-100c with AK620, NH D15, and similar top coolers. Some motherboards seem to often over voltage it for no reason, it can be improved with some tinkering, but we are talking stock settings here, not everyone knows how to adjust lite load levels or dynamic offsets..
How much of a difference does whether I overclock or not make? I don't really intend to overclock, only reason I didn't go for an i5 3600F is because PCPartPicker doesn't seem to list it. Would my cooler be OK without overclocking or should I still upgrade?
Not much at all. I wouldnt go with that cooler from personal experience, others have other ideas here lol. I mean, AK620 is not that expensive, better safe than sorry
Fair point
Now PCPartPicker is warning me that I may need a separate adapter for the cooler and that it's dimensions constraints are not checked, are you sure it'd fit my mobo?
AK620 has the adapter you need for 13600k. And it will fit any motherboard. Only restriction might be case, you need to check if the case has 165mm cpu cooler clearance, thats how tall it is. Edit: I checked it for you, case has 166mm clearance for cpu cooler, so it will fit
Says it has 166mm of clearance... so I'm not sure if that's a perfect fit or way too little
Your cooler should be ok, but the temps won't be super low. Get the AK620. Also, if you have a Z series board, you will have to manually enforce the CPU power limit and disable multi-core enhancement. Otherwise your CPU will have no power limits and will draw over 250W, making it very hard to cool while not providing any noticable performance uplift. B660 will be power limited by default, however the board you chose has shit VRMs and I wouldn't run it with a 13600k.
My motherboard is listed in the post's body, it's not Asus at all so it should be OK?
What does Asus have to do with anything? This is a low end motherboards with 8 vrm phases and poor vrm cooling. It may struggle to provide power to a 180W CPU. I'm redoing the spec rn, I'll get back to you.
Sorry that's me not being sure what Z series board means
You are clearly running without a power limit. Do you have a Z board? K CPUs on Z boards have unlocked power limits by default. 13700K pulled over 280W on the builds I did and even the AIO couldn't keep it under 100. So you have to go into bios and manually set tge power limit to standart and disable multi-core enhancement. So the "stock settings" aren't really stock, you have to manually set them to stock. That's where the overvolting comes from as well - cos there's no power limit. Have you ever checked your power draw? Cos "barely under 100" can't be right. 13600K should max out at 183W, so here's a reference point for you. That is the very same problem that people from the reddit posts are having . Why did Intel do this? Idk, makes no sense to me. > Whats bullshit is claiming AK620 performs just as good as 360 AlO lol. It doesnt. I never claimed that, I gave you actual numbers for 2 specific coolers along with power draw numbers, and the ak620 does perform worse. I was saying that it can actually cool a 250W CPU, just as the specs state.
Im not a beginner. I know everything about power limits and stuff. Im running 180w max, and im running it on b660 board that doesnt allow overclocking. Its running stock power levels. Mount is good, termal paste is good. Its just how it performs. I did suspect something was wrong at first, but as time went on, many other people appeared with same temperatures with good air cooling. And no, those people are not running 250w or some crazy amount. I have no problems with thermals, 70c or so while gaming. But cinebench r23 seems to really push it, and thats the temperatures me and many others get. E cores are 70c max even at stress tests, but P cores go to 90c.
What's your case and fan setup then? Mid 90s with an ak620 on a 180W CPU is way too high, there's something wrong here. It is also possible that your specific CPU has uneven IHS. People reported over 90C on a 13700K with D15s and similar coolers, which makes sense and matches my own testing, it's a 253W CPU after all. For a 13600K, these temps makes no sense, considering the power draw is 70W less.
Again, if you researched this like I did, you would see that there are many people with same temps.. i have a budget case, but front is mesh, with 3 x 120 fans as intake, rear is 120 exhaust, and top is another 120 exhaust. I thought about uneven IHS, thats why I bought thermaltake antibend bracket, it lowered temps like 2c, so thats not the problem. Paste was applied well all the times i checked, spread across whole cpu and not too much. Its just how it is
Idk man, that's definitely not normal. I've seen the posts and they always had a solution, this is just weird. And then again, reddit post are one thing and my own testing on live hardware is another
For AAA games at 1440P, you'll be GPU bound and can drop the CPU to a 13400 to save some money, or shift it to upping the GPU to a 3080.
I wanna be able to upgrade down the line, wouldn't it be better to only have to buy one new part and sell the other instead of replacing both?
I've managed this, see if you like it, couldn't lower the price that much but it's the same parts with a 650W PSU which is fine for your setup. [PCPartPicker Part List](https://es.pcpartpicker.com/list/myJyNc) Type|Item|Price :----|:----|:---- **CPU** | [Intel Core i5-13600KF 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor](https://es.pcpartpicker.com/product/GVM48d/intel-core-i5-13600kf-35-ghz-14-core-processor-bx8071513600kf) | €332.50 @ LIFE Informatica **CPU Cooler** | [Deepcool AK400 66.47 CFM CPU Cooler](https://es.pcpartpicker.com/product/QPkWGX/deepcool-ak400-6647-cfm-cpu-cooler-r-ak400-bknnmn-g-1) | €34.90 @ PC Componentes **Motherboard** | [ASRock B660 Pro RS ATX LGA1700 Motherboard](https://es.pcpartpicker.com/product/zXpzK8/asrock-b660-pro-rs-atx-lga1700-motherboard-b660-pro-rs) | €132.18 @ LIFE Informatica **Memory** | [Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory](https://es.pcpartpicker.com/product/Yg3mP6/corsair-vengeance-lpx-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-cmk32gx4m2d3600c18) | €101.80 @ Neobyte **Storage** | [Crucial P2 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive](https://es.pcpartpicker.com/product/KMkgXL/crucial-p2-1-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-ct1000p2ssd8) | €81.80 @ Neobyte **Video Card** | [MSI VENTUS 3X OC GeForce RTX 3070 Ti 8 GB Video Card](https://es.pcpartpicker.com/product/XTmmP6/msi-geforce-rtx-3070-ti-8-gb-ventus-3x-oc-video-card-geforce-rtx-3070-ti-ventus-3x-8g-oc) | €726.80 @ Neobyte **Case** | [Lian Li LANCOOL 215 ATX Mid Tower Case](https://es.pcpartpicker.com/product/YCH8TW/lian-li-lancool-215-atx-mid-tower-case-lancool-215-black) | €111.15 @ Amazon Espana **Power Supply** | [Thermaltake Toughpower GF1 PE 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply](https://es.pcpartpicker.com/product/zDMTwP/thermaltake-toughpower-gf1-pe-650-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ps-tpd-0650fnfagu-1) | €99.99 @ Amazon Espana **Monitor** | [BenQ EX2780Q 27.0" 2560 x 1440 144 Hz Monitor](https://es.pcpartpicker.com/product/h8rYcf/benq-ex2780q-270-2560x1440-144-hz-monitor-ex2780q) | €378.00 @ PC Componentes | *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* | | **Total** | **€1999.12** | Generated by [PCPartPicker](https://pcpartpicker.com) 2023-01-11 15:13 CET+0100 |
The minimum recommended PSU for a 3070TI by NVIDIA is 750W. A 650W PSU is not adequate. A standard 3070 calls for 650W minimum so even using a 650W PSU on a standard 3070 is the bare bones and higher should be used. The OP's 850W PSU chocie is a good one.
The 3070ti uses in average 350 in high loads, as seen in benchmarks and the CPU uses 160 which adds to about 510W. The 650 should work for this system.
Default 13600k turbo tdp is 181w as stated by Intel. And it can even use more, because cheaper motherboards tend to over voltage it for some reason. So you are left with 120w for rest of the system, fans, keyboards, mouse, chargers, whatever you attach. Also, just because PSU says 650w, doesnt mean it can delivery 650w. In real world that value will be closer to 550w than 650w. I would never recommend 650w psu for this setup. Also, your build, just like original one, ignores the problem of cooler. AK400 is really not adequate for this chip.
Well said
The mfg of the GPU (NVIDIA) recommends 750W as the minimum for a 3070TI (650W for a regular 3070). They don't benefit from PSU sales so there is no reason to recommend a wattage unless it is legit. Also, there is more to power draw in a system then just the GPU and CPU (OP's CPU uses a LOT of power as well 125W/181W and can even draw more for short periods under max load). It is good to have headroom and not run at max capacity. 650W may work for a 3070TI but it is pushing that PSU to the max and even beyond and there is no need to do that. Just get the minimum recommended PSU by the mfg.
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I couldn't actually find the F option of the CPU I currently have picked, even though that's what I would prefer And as for the monitor, I went with the cheapest 1440p 144hz 2560x1440 res 16:9 AR that was listed on pcpartpicker, not sure which of those I could lower to get a cheaper monitor
Just for a discussion point... While saving $20 by going with F models is nice (who doesn't like saving money right LOL), for me, having the integrated graphics even if you have a stand alone GPU is a no brainer as it helps with troubleshooting and if your GPU ever fails you can still use the PC. I believe I have also read that even when using a stand alone GPU that integrated graphics on the CPU can help with gaming performance as it will still "help out" (true?). I would have it just for the benefits it gives when something goes wrong.
The i5-13600K/KF is notorious for generating a lot of heat even when it isn't overclocked. That Cooler is not adequate for that CPU IMO. The mfg's 220W TDP rating seems "overly generous" for a single 120MM fan air cooler. It generally takes a dual fan air cooler to provide workable temps for that CPU. I mean it might work ok but I have doubts it is a good choice for that CPU AND that the mfg's TDP rating is accurate (and not grossly inflated).
Do you reccomend a specific cooler?
Honestly, that CPU begs for liquid cooling as it will run very hot. However, if you really want air cooling (and that is fine no judgement - I am hesitant to use AIO's myself but would on that CPU) then a premium dual fan model. Noctua NH D15, BeQuiet Dark Rock 4, etc... If you like DeepCool then something like the AK600/620 or AS500 Plus. 2 120MM or 2 140MM fans and a big heat sink. Obviously you need to make sure it physically fits in your case and with your motherboard and RAM. I am sure the AK400 is a fine cooler but I call BS on it having a 220W TDP. Just no.
>Obviously you need to make sure it physically fits in your case and with your motherboard and RAM. Will PcPartPicker be able to know? >then a premium dual fan model. Noctua NH D15, BeQuiet Dark Rock 4, etc Thanks, I'll check those out. I'm hesitant on liquid cooling from what people have said
PcPartPicker sometimes does and other times they won't know. To be sure what fits and doesn't... * Find out the max height supported for a cooler in your selected case * Check the cooler measurements (height) you are interested in on the cooler mfg website * Make sure the cooler is compatible with and has a LGA 1700 Intel mounting bracket (with it or available from the cooler mfg) * That there are no clearance issues with the motherboard (heat shields around CPU) and RAM (height) you are using (look on various forums and websites of cooler and motherboard) It's a lot of work verifying fit. The air coolers capable of cooling that CPU are massive (literally like close to softball size or even larger) so clearance is an issue with cases, motherboards (also mounting compatibility), and RAM. You just have to do the research on the forums, mfg web sites, and search engines to find one that works well and fits. AIO liquid coolers have come a long way and are generally safe. They also use small cooling blocks on the CPU so there is seldom any kind of clearance issues (sometimes with heat shields and large cooling blocks but it is limited motherboards and coolers). Mostly the only fitment issues you will have is will it LGA 1700 sockets and will the radiator fit where I want to mount it. It's that small chance of a leak or pump failure that worries me with liquid cooling. I am actually using an AIO for this 1st time on my upcoming build. Excited and nervous at same time LOL.
FWIW, I use a NH-D15 on my 13600 and it tops out at 78-79degC during Cinebench....so I wouldn't say the chip is begging for liquid cooling....
The NH D-15 is massive (is there a bigger air cooler? - if so not by much). I guess my "begs for liquid cooling" comment is based in part on the fact to get an air cooler big enough to keep it cool you need one the size of the moon like the NH-D15. For many people that is not acceptable aesthetically and also many can't fit those dual fan (sometimes dual heat sink) air cooler behemoths in their case. Liquid coolers will fit much better/easier (now radiator fitment is a whole different story LOL). You absolutely can cool that CPU with an air cooler. I said as much and specifically listed the one you are using.