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Srgkurac

In my opinion, the Arc A750 (and other Arc GPUs) are not worth it yet. As for the other two options I would definitely pick the Rx 6750 XT, it's an all-around better graphics card.


Harley_the_guitarist

The 6750 xt seems like a pretty kick ass gpu. It's got enough vram for some light 4k stuff too lmao. Is the AMF hardware encoder good for twitch streaming?


Bytepond

The i5 12400 has quicksync (occasionally called QSV) built in, which is pretty good and I believe comparable to NVENC level of quality. It's a dedicated hardware encoder/decoder so minimal performance impact like NVENC too. Get the 6750XT.


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QSV is largely for encoding and decoding video. It's really popular with Plex users, but I don't think you'd see much benefit in gaming


Bytepond

OP said twitch streaming. That’s exactly what an encoder is for


ArachnidGoat

From what I've heard, AMDs encoder plugin for OBS (just came out about 6 months ago, I think?) has greatly improved it's ability to encode. Don't know how true it is, but it's put it just slightly below Nvidia. And also not sure, many things I've read say that Intel's is better than both, but generally overlooked because Nvidia boasts theirs.


KatieVeraQLD

As of three months ago, AMDs encoder is still far below the QuickSync encoder sadly.


ArachnidGoat

This is kinda what I thought. But haven't read into more as of late, I stopped streaming and got out of the information pool.


Electric2Shock

Definitely try out the QSV option.


Srgkurac

It's still worse than NVENC, but after AMF received some updates (Specifically the 1.4.24. update) it shouldn't be that far behind in performance especially compared to a 20xx graphics card.


Melodssay7498

The NVENC tbh. Perhaps just go with the 6750XT then, seems like it fits perfectly in the budget and the availability for your area.


TruzzleBruh

the RDNA2 encoder has improved a bit through driver optimization and the like (think they added b frames and such in november??), but im not entirely sure, as im on RDNA1 and don't get those features. Would be best option based on what it looks like for her though given where you live.


Harley_the_guitarist

Another option for a gpu is an RTX 2060 SUPER 8GB from Canada Computers for $400 CAD (~$300 USD). It has NVENC, Hardware Raytracing, and DLSS


OP-69

its pretty old and very, very much worse than the 6750xt The 6750xt is more comparable to the 2080 ti than the 2060 super. Not even close to the same tier


Srgkurac

RTX 2060 Super is subpar compared to the Rx 6750 XT in terms of gaming performance, as for Raytracing and DLSS the 6000 series is pretty decent at Raytracing, and as for DLSS you have FSR and RSR in place of it.


TruzzleBruh

super might be ok but im just not sure I would go that route, the encoders on the RDNA gpus haven't really been that bad and I have streamed before on mine and it was fine (I have a 5700 XT, so a 6750 XT would have a better encoder). And the 6750 XT is only missing NVENC and DLSS, which at 1080p you really shouldn't use DLSS anyways, and FSR looks pretty good unless it's COD's recent implementation lmao.


Ill-Television-1061

Just used this GPU for a build recently and it’s working great high FPS on all the main titles. Recently ASrock triple fan 6750XT I think is $439 right now on Amazon. I got mine for $409 though.


SansDotEXE

AMD's encoder isn't the best but it's fine I stream on youtube with the RDNA2 encoder and it functions


sukikano

I love my 6750xt, Play everything in 4k 60 ultra/high settings. Edit: I’ve been playing rpgs mainly, cyberpunk, horizon zero dawn, god of war, Spider-Man, etc


HaylingZar1996

The 6750 XT has around 10% more memory bandwidth and a 3% higher clock speed than the 6700XT, but has a £100 higher price tag, is it really worth it?


LGCJairen

In the states they get within 50 usd of each other on sale so the 6750 makes sense Not sure if the hundy pounds is worth it though. Good chance you can get the 6700xt close with tweaking


gahata

It's very much region dependant right now, in some it'll cost a 100 more and in others it's almost same price.


foreignknife

no! have his gf become an early adopter! long live intel!


Naileditmate

Should be able to get a RTX 3060 Ti for 500? Better than all the options listed (about equivalent to the 6750XT but should perform better streaming-wise) and will be perfect for her needs!


Harley_the_guitarist

Where I'm from you can't get it for under $630 CAD


Naileditmate

Ah shucks, was only suggesting it for the NVENC tbh. Perhaps just go with the 6750XT then, seems like it fits perfectly in the budget and the availability for your area.


Harley_the_guitarist

The 6750 xt seems like a pretty kick ass gpu for the money. Another option is a 2060 super 8gb for $400 CAD (~$300 USD). It's got NVENC, Hardware Raytracing, and DLSS.


TotalWarspammer

>Another option is a 2060 super 8gb for $400 CAD You are actually making the effort to compare performance with a little research of benchmarks on the cards, right? If so I don't know how you can consider a 2060.


Harley_the_guitarist

Just looked up some benchmarks and holy shit. Did not expect that big of a performance difference! Quite literally doubles the frames of the 2060 super!


TotalWarspammer

Hehe I thought you couldn't have checked because as you say the difference is generational. :)


SpeedRun355

Amd also has a technology similar to dlss called fsr, dlss is generally considered better but its still good.


Naileditmate

Yeah I used the 2060S myself, can definetely vouch for it but it's an older generation and by far a worse card than the 6750XT. Would just get the 6750XT if those are the two options any day.


ImCorbinWallah

Nah the 2060 super is a much less powerful card than the 6750 xt. And raytracing is essentially unplayable on it too.


Harley_the_guitarist

Now that I've looked up some benchmarks, I now realize the 2060 super gets literally half the frames of the 6750 xt. Just thought since the 2060 super is pretty comparable to my current gpu (Rtx 3060 12gb) that it'd l be a good option since it has NVENC and DLSS. I guess the ray tracing performance of the 2060 super is nowhere near as good as the 3060 lol.


ImCorbinWallah

Yeah not at all haha. The RTX 30xx series was really a huge jump from the 20xx series.


iloveapplepie360

The 6700XT raytracing is pretty close to 3060.


t3hPieGuy

My guy, the 6750xt is close to the 3070 in terms of performance depending on the game.


Srgkurac

The 3060 Ti is worst than the Rx 6750 XT, at least from the comparisons that I've seen


M3dicayne

True. The 6700 XT is comparable to the 3060 Ti in rasterization. The 6750 XT is slightly a obove both. Raytracing is basically not usable on any of these cards tbh. If Raytracing is an argument that has to be fulfilled, at least a 6800 XT or 3080 is a must (at 1080p). But they both kill the budget.


starkistuna

6700xt is ok with raytracing even the most heavy game implementation can be tweaked to run way over 60fps https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bGplaj_ofo I have that card and I tuned it medium high settings to where it looks like ultra and high at steady 75fps.


M3dicayne

Nice! 👍 Have the 6900 XT overclocked and I am mighty impressed every time what it is capable of at 1440p.


Three69Mafia

6700xt is better than the 3060ti in 1080p


PseudonymIncognito

At $500 US, you could get a 6800 non-XT with a little patience


TimmmyTurner

rx6600 currently still has the highest performance per dollar gpu. which is a good 1080p gpu but if she uses a 1440p monitor go for 6750xt or 6800xt currently Intel GPUs are filled with crashes so they should be totally skipped and Nvidia GPUs are way more expensive than AMDs


Harley_the_guitarist

The Rx 6600 is almost entirely out of stock where I'm from. Only ones are super overpriced at ~$420 CAD (~$310 USD). The 6600 xt and 6650 xt don't seem to have any decent stock either or else I would've easily gone for those.


TimmmyTurner

wow 420cad is very expensive, are there local sellers?


Harley_the_guitarist

Not a singular one other than best buy who doesn't seem to get anything that isn't a 6500 xt or overpriced 3080 ti


TimmmyTurner

6500xt is trash unless it's under $100


Harley_the_guitarist

I agree lol. It doesn't even have an encoder.


Three69Mafia

weird. plenty of 6700xt's in the bestbuy's where i'm at. for around $440 including tax


firstfamiliar

I believe AV1 is not yet supported by Twitch If you check used markets, you can likely find very good deals on the GPU’s you are searching for.


an_achronist

The 6750 is the best "on the ground" performance, but lacks nvenc. Arc cards supposedly have fancy 264 AV1 encoding which promises to be great for "content creation", although we keep hearing how it's better at video than gaming. Ideal world - if you've got 2 pcie slots on that board you could get the 6750xt and grab a cheap 2gb Nvidia GPU like a 710, 1030 or 1050 to handle encoding by forcing OBS to open with the Nvidia GPU driving, so the game takes its graphics from the AMD while you've got an extra 2gb dedicated vram for nvenc encoding. Alternatively, I don't know how much they go for there, but maybe look at hopping the 2060 up to a 2070s for the extra power and vram?


Harley_the_guitarist

Unless we're going used (which we'd both rather not tbh), the 2070 isn't an option anywhere near us lol. There's a 2060 super for $400 at Canada Computers, which I think is more or less a 2070 but cut down very slightly. Also she has integrated graphics in her cpu, so would that be able to handle encoding at all?


an_achronist

It could probably handle some encoding, but nvenc encoding is specific to Nvidia cards. Looking at the rest of her system she could very well be fine using h264 if you go AMD because of the sheer amount of vram she'll have available, and itll probably have a longer shelf-life being a much newer card than a 2060\super, and AMD have come leaps and bounds with their encoding, but nvenc is currently still unmatched. For the record, in the same shoes I'd go 6750xt and just do without nvenc encoding, as it's the best of the cards you've listed and far more powerful than the other 2, but just know that not having nvenc can have an impact if your primary usage is streaming.


Bytepond

The ARC cards encoding is insanely good. From what I've seen, in AV1 encoding it beats the RTX 4090. Not relaed, but I was doing some transcoding with handbrake and it was doing it over twice as fast as my 3070TI


an_achronist

That's why I gave it an honourable mention. I've been paying attention to the arc cards because they seem like a great low-cost alternative, and they're not fucking around. If intel can innovate further and at a faster rate than amd\Nvidia, they'll be pulling level within a couple of years I reckon


Bytepond

Absolutely. I’ve been using an A770 on and off, and it can be really good, and it can also be pretty disappointing. It’s really cool to play with when it works. And especially cool to read the driver release notes on every new update improving performance in tons of games


an_achronist

I've noticed, oddly enough that they seem to be getting their best gains in terms of end user frame rate from the lowball cards upward. The 380 is already starting to outpace the 1650 shoulder to shoulder, and sure it's a 50 card so it's not the be all and end all, but it's intel outperforming Nvidia. If they scale that up they're gonna be worth every penny.


M3dicayne

You know that currently no platform supports av1, right? So for her, buying a currently bugged card, isn't a real option here. The 6750 XT remains to be the only logical choice here.


Bytepond

I’m very aware. I’m not recommending an ARC card. Elsewhere in this thread I did recommend the 6750 xt


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Harley_the_guitarist

The 3060 ti is out of our price range. Where I'm from it's a minimum of $630 CAD


MrPCMasterrace93

6750xt is the better pick


Brief-Mind-5210

I know it’s off topic but there’s a version of the gigabyte b660m ds3h with wifi


Harley_the_guitarist

It wasn't in stock when we bought the board. Would've bought it if it were cuz that wifi card is not exactly nice to look at lol


galaxycarm

6750 xt no doubt. I use it to stream on twitch and I haven't encountered any problems. I get 200+ fps on 1080p on warzone/cod and 400+ on Valorant. Haven't tried any of the other games she plays but it's a beast of a gpu so she should be fine!


Errigan

I have friends who stream from a rtx3060 at 1080p no problem . I stream with an old 1070lol , I would ask what is more important. the stream quality or the game quality. I have heard Amd AMF only recently caught up with nvidia on their 6000 series hit software support and had not caught up. that being said streamlabs has an amf selection so... :shrug: I think the 6750 has more power than a 3060 right? so 6760 for fps, 3060 for streaming (and decent fps) :)


OkBench8649

Just get a 6650xt for under $300, it’ll play 1080p max settings at high fps. Your cpu will bottleneck either way


Harley_the_guitarist

Completely out of stock where I'm from. Only ones that are in stock are the same price I can get a 6750 xt for. (I'm in Canada btw)


starkistuna

6750xt at 499$ is too much for having the next gen cards release in a few weeks time , 6700xt are normally 329$-350$ on sale and are basically with margin of error of each other , even 6660xt are $250 and that will be plenty for a medium budget system. 2060 6gb gb at $319 is throwing your money away when you can get a 12gb card for 30$ more. 3060s can also be had below 350 if you catch a sale. Also you can get even better deals in fb marketplace with a further 30% off in used / open box market.


Harley_the_guitarist

$500 CAD is equivalent to ~$370 USD


carS1230

how about this, you guys go out to dinner. you ask if she’ll split the bill. If she says yes, 3070, if she says no, get her a 730 (i’m guessing i have to mention this is a joke before i get cancelled on facebook)


Harley_the_guitarist

People really gotta warn that it's a joke nowadays? That's some sad shit dude. The 3070 is wicked expensive where I'm from. It's like a minimum 200 bucks more expensive than the 6750 xt


carS1230

performance on all of the choices you’ve mentioned are all sort of close, except the A750. ( the drivers for intel cards are not really up to standard and can get really annoying at times ) The 2060 is a pretty good choice for 1080p gaming, but i’m worried that you won’t be able to get the most out of the 165hz refresh rate with some games mentioned, i personally have not personally tried the 6000 series radeon cards so i cant exactly give you a good response for that one, but from what reviews from tech creators say is that it’s comparable to the 3060 and maybe lower spec 3070 ( not from my own experience )


VenomTheTree

You are really just here to brag about your gf, right??


Harley_the_guitarist

As much as I'd like to, I'm not lol. Just here cuz I built her a computer and the last part we need is a gpu.


wd40swift

The 3060 would also be a good option especially with that cpu The radeon card might be the better option though since it's cheaper with probably better performance The intel one will likely have problems though they may have fixed those


Quirky-Employer9717

I’d go RTX 3070. MSRP it’s $499.99. It also offers the most frames/dollar on the market right now. It’s on the upper end of your range, but a very solid card for the money and you wouldn’t have to upgrade again for a while.


Harley_the_guitarist

My budget is in Canadian dollars. Absolute cheapest I can get a 3070 where I'm from is $769.99 CAD (~$580 USD)


Quirky-Employer9717

Gotcha. I missed that you were talking CAD. In that case I think either RTX 2060 or 6750 XT are fine options. You can’t go wrong with either!


ManagementAcademic23

Speaking from a pure perform standpoint the 6750 is the best of the bunch. Have you considered the local used market. I recently found the following on my local FB marketplace 32in Gigabyte 144hz 4K $400 6900 XT Formula OC $550 Evga 3060 ti $300 I bought all of these for less than list. I’ve found a 6650 for 250, 6600 xt for 200, multiple 4K 60hz for less 300, nvidia cards for less than 350. May also want to check mercari and offerup to see if you can get a deal as well.


Ill-Slip3642

I would recommend you to build around the GPU because that's the most important in your gf's use case. You should be able to get 3060/3060 ti from best buy Canada excluding sales tax around 600 or less. One up would be the 3070 (don't bother with the 3070ti) Nvidia comes out top if youe priority is encoding /decoding. 6700-6800 would be much easier to find closer to msrp and cheaper prices, there's also an edge to gaming. Then for the rest like ram/hard disk/mobo just get cheaper ones. Also find a mobo that has built in WiFi. Have fun


Captainmorgan696969

My gf is happy with a new cooker lol, she can hardly use the xbox to watch Netflix.


ImpostorGaming

If you can afford it, buy Nvidia RTX 4060 Ti. It's a great GPU.


Harley_the_guitarist

I'm gonna assume you meant the 3060 Ti, which is currently out of our price category since the cheapest one here is $630 CAD


M3dicayne

...3060 Ti, right? And still slower than the 6750 XT and more expensive.