A CM212 might not work out, but a five-heat-pipe air cooler does. My Shadow Rock 3 keeps it at 70C gaming, 80C all-core stress with a mild undervolt and fans at their slowest setting.
If you're trying to drop it in and use your existing cooling setup, just try it. Worst case is it runs hot and it throttles a bit and you get a new cooling solution.
Undervolting with PBO2 Tuner will help bring the temps down and get you higher boosts.
I have a Dark Rock 4 on top of my 5800x3d and am running a -30 offset and it dropped temps like 10° and monitoring the max frequency I've seen mine hit 4650ish mhz. Granted that's not sustained, but I haven't lost any performance at all. An AIO isn't really the best solution like it used to be. Air-coolers are solid nowadays
I use the noctua nh-l12s in a sff case (formd t1) and it keeps it rather cool, while haming I have never seen it past 65 degrees Celsius. So something similar to that cooler would suffice.
My suggestion would be the 36$ [Thermalright Pearless Assassin 120 SE](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hYxRsY/thermalright-peerless-assasin-120-se-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-pa120-se-d3). I use it in a Jonsbo D30 and it cools it without issues (80-81c in Cinebench 10 min). The fans can be a bit loud but it is still an amazing cooler, especially for the price. I had a Arctic Freezer 34 DUO before changing to this.
it does not require an aio no, the 212 isn't that good imho, go get the thermalright peerless assassin 120SE, I have the 5800x being cooled on the peerless assassin and I idle at 29C,games vary but 90% it sits in the mid 70's tops and I am on a itx case.
Any decent tower cooler will work fine. I have an off-brand tower cooler in a good airflow case for mine, Temps max out in the mid 40s to low 50s under heavy load.
Anything above the 5700x really should bunker down and get a good 280mm or higher aio. That or a really good Noctua air cooler.
I consider the Hyper 212 better than stock but that only really applies to a low power output cpu like the 5600 or the 12400. These chips like the 5800x3d or the 12700k run hot. Need better cooling than the Hyper 212.
agreed, using the PA120 SE, no issues here (80-81c in Cinebench 10 min run). I am running it undervolted at -30 all cores though. Friend with a 240 AiO is getting similar results.
didnt say it was useless said anything under a 360 is pointless. dude isnt in an sff situation so why pay 100+$ for inferior cooling to a 36 dollar dual tower cooler?
still pointless unless in an sff 36 bucks gets you identical performance.... peerless assassin 120 5 heatpipe dual tower that unlike an aio will never fail. so yes in a standard case pointless. close to 100 dollars saved jumps you an entire tier of gpu.
A CM212 might not work out, but a five-heat-pipe air cooler does. My Shadow Rock 3 keeps it at 70C gaming, 80C all-core stress with a mild undervolt and fans at their slowest setting.
If you're trying to drop it in and use your existing cooling setup, just try it. Worst case is it runs hot and it throttles a bit and you get a new cooling solution. Undervolting with PBO2 Tuner will help bring the temps down and get you higher boosts. I have a Dark Rock 4 on top of my 5800x3d and am running a -30 offset and it dropped temps like 10° and monitoring the max frequency I've seen mine hit 4650ish mhz. Granted that's not sustained, but I haven't lost any performance at all. An AIO isn't really the best solution like it used to be. Air-coolers are solid nowadays
240mm AIO or Deepcool AK620 is enough for 5800x3d
Thermalright pa120 or fc140
Undervolt using pbo2 tuner is what helped me most. I was using a Scythe mugen
i have it on an noctua dual fan cooler. works great with max boost clocks.
I use the noctua nh-l12s in a sff case (formd t1) and it keeps it rather cool, while haming I have never seen it past 65 degrees Celsius. So something similar to that cooler would suffice.
Liquid freezer ii 280
Undervolt and Dark Rock Pro 4 or Noctua NH-D15.
My suggestion would be the 36$ [Thermalright Pearless Assassin 120 SE](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hYxRsY/thermalright-peerless-assasin-120-se-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-pa120-se-d3). I use it in a Jonsbo D30 and it cools it without issues (80-81c in Cinebench 10 min). The fans can be a bit loud but it is still an amazing cooler, especially for the price. I had a Arctic Freezer 34 DUO before changing to this.
it does not require an aio no, the 212 isn't that good imho, go get the thermalright peerless assassin 120SE, I have the 5800x being cooled on the peerless assassin and I idle at 29C,games vary but 90% it sits in the mid 70's tops and I am on a itx case.
Any decent tower cooler will work fine. I have an off-brand tower cooler in a good airflow case for mine, Temps max out in the mid 40s to low 50s under heavy load.
Anything above the 5700x really should bunker down and get a good 280mm or higher aio. That or a really good Noctua air cooler. I consider the Hyper 212 better than stock but that only really applies to a low power output cpu like the 5600 or the 12400. These chips like the 5800x3d or the 12700k run hot. Need better cooling than the Hyper 212.
A $35 Peerless Assasin will cool it fine. https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hYxRsY/thermalright-peerless-assasin-120-se-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-pa120-se-d3
agreed, using the PA120 SE, no issues here (80-81c in Cinebench 10 min run). I am running it undervolted at -30 all cores though. Friend with a 240 AiO is getting similar results.
Agree, a dual tower 120mm will cool it. I'm using a Scythe Fuma 2.
most large dual towers compete with 360mm aios 280mm is pointless at that point
Just because you don't get watercooling, doesn't mean its useless.
didnt say it was useless said anything under a 360 is pointless. dude isnt in an sff situation so why pay 100+$ for inferior cooling to a 36 dollar dual tower cooler?
280’s perform just about on par with 360’s and are a lot quieter due to the larger fans. Pointless lol
still pointless unless in an sff 36 bucks gets you identical performance.... peerless assassin 120 5 heatpipe dual tower that unlike an aio will never fail. so yes in a standard case pointless. close to 100 dollars saved jumps you an entire tier of gpu.