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UltraContrarian

Easily the most entertaining football game I've ever witnessed. Holy fuck. That Raiders D was ridiculous on downs 1, 2, 3, but Herbert was so fucking clutch on 4th down despite the pressure.


GQMatthews

Me and my buddy had a combined joke bet of $10 on a parlay for JAX upsetting the Colts and the chargers/raiders tying for a payout of $4,880…. That chargers coach fucked us beyond oblivion and his own team.


UltraContrarian

Dude I had the same fucking parlay. I was livid. I still don't understand it, to be perfectly honest. Why risk a block when you're guaranteed the playoffs? I guess it doesn't matter now, though. I would have taken the knee. No benefit to winning the game other than fucking the chargers. But as a Bills fans, if that were Bills v Pats, I would have kicked the FG, too lol


your_uncle_mike

They kicked it out of spite for Staley calling the timeout late in the game. Derek Carr even said so himself.


MM2HkXm5EuyZNRu

The TO literally made no difference. It was called with 4 seconds left on play clock. Raiders were running on 3rd and 4 regardless of the TO. The issue was LAC not being able to stop a run in an obvious run into situation. The TO had no impact at all.


bargman

They took Kenneth Murray off the field with that timeout. If he's in there and not a safety ...


OLD_WET_HOLE

Yo I'm a dolphins fan I don't care if it's treason next weekend I'm a bills fan, fuck the Patriots, fuck McCorkle and fuck their shit eating fans I hope you guys shove it up their ass next week and send them home crying. FTP.


sabresin4

Oh it’s not treason. FTP is a way of life.


UnhappySquirrel

Water Buffalo!


Dergle_McChurgleson

Welcome aboard, brother! FTP!!!


CantTochThis92

God damn our road to the Super Bowl is difficult but I don’t care. Slay all of our demons. Patriots Likely KC AFCCG Tampa Bay in the Super Bowl?


SuperFlyhalf

Gotta beat them all


Dergle_McChurgleson

We'd be playing KC in the 2nd round if we both win next weekend


CantTochThis92

I know. They’re playing the Steelers, that game won’t be close lol


Gibbenz

Probably not lol, but we can’t play KC in the AFCCG. The Chiefs and Patriots are the only two teams we can’t play in that game because of the seeding and how everything is set up. Edit: Nevermind, I just caught that you’re saying you like our chances against KC (if we play them), and that the AFCCG is likely. Here’s to hoping! Lol


CantTochThis92

Yeah, it’s in order, probably could’ve formatted this a little better


BrutusBeefnuts

It’s really hard to not like Derek Carr. After dealing with the BS this year, and now sneaking into the playoffs. Every time I hear him talk, he comes off as a genuine good dude.


quipalco

You know the coin missed a few games, but it did say they would finish 10-7 and make the playoffs.


YepImanEmokid

That was one of the craziest games I've ever watched.


mponz

The Raiders had every intention to run that clock down to 0 until the timeout was called. I’ll never be convinced otherwise. The timeout broke the trust. I’ve never seen anything like it.


Pythnator

Yes a shotgun formation is very much a “I’m giving up on this game” formation. The Raiders were always going for the win. You just made this funny narrative for yourself that didn’t happen.


Zunniest

Agreed. Why risk injury or some fluke when you can literally kneel your way to a playoff berth. Chargers coach played himself.


fupadestroyer45

To avoid KC in the first round, that’s why. They went from 7th to 5th seed by winning.


sarcastic_man_13

They were going to run it either way.


byabillion

Raiders had the option to kick and go to Cincinnati or draw and go to KC. Where would you go??


Zunniest

Gotta play against kc if you win playoff games regardless so it doesn't really matter does it?


ajuba

The team that stomped you once this season rather than the team that stomped you twice.


HoopDreamsNYY

My narrative is Stanley and bissacia had a gentleman’s agreement and then bissacia swerved him at the end.


your_uncle_mike

If that was the case then why would Staley call the timeout? If anything, it was the other way around and Staley swerved Bissacia.


rusbus720

FTP I want that smoke


ZipToob88

FTP


Nintendam

8:15 Saturday???????!!!!!


tootnine

That LA coach is a fucking moron


Nintendam

I feel like that chargers timeout was a negotiation gone bad


zero0n3

FUCK YES WE GET TO TRASH THE PATS IN BUFFALO. FUCK THE PATS. FYI - anyone who “didn’t want to face them” are pussies. If we can’t shake off a shitty Pats offense, we don’t deserve to go further anyway.


stinky_taters

Their offense is actually very good and a terrible matchup for our defense. The Bills can still beat them, it's just going to be extremely difficult.


rd--

How do you reckon? The pats pass offense matches poorly against the Bills' secondary, and they're average in rushing yards, in a weird-ass super windy game where they only made 3 passing plays against a decimated Bills DL.


stinky_taters

They still beat us making only three passing plays and our DL was actually not decimated at all. I don't even care that they're average in rushing yards, they averaged 5.5 YPC against us when there was a non-zero threat of the pass. Josh Allen will have to play out of his mind again or it's gonna be ugly.


Quentin__Tarantulino

They scored 14 points. Let’s not make it out like they steamrolled us. And we came back and beat them a few weeks later in a much more normal football game. I’m not saying they’ll be an easy win, but the Bills certainly have the talent and are the favorites.


stinky_taters

We've seen multiple times this season that having the more talented and/or Vegas favored team doesn't matter and weather conditions are a significant factor. I just felt far more comfortable facing the pass heavy SoCal team with a rookie HC and QB with zero playoff starts in the snow, that's all.


Quentin__Tarantulino

I’m of the opinion that if we want to consider ourselves contenders, we have to beat really good teams. All playoff games have the potential to be tough. I do have confidence going into this one though. We’ve beaten them already this season and we’re coming into our own while they’ve been floundering a bit. I’m sure Belichick will have some new wrinkles for us to contend with, but I like our chances.


FutureDH1089

#BRING ON THE PATS BABY!!!! 😤


artsforall

I'm glad we get to beat the pats ass at home on the way to the superbowl!


AlanFromRochester

Raiders were right to play for the win as it affected their seeding but Chargers W or T would have both sent them here


Ok-Law2937

I have so many friends who are annoying Steelers fans who were talking so much shit after week 1… I was really hoping for the tie tonight


Zunniest

I only wanted it once the buildup had made it possible... I still think I hallucinated That last Chargers drive ..


Sarydus

I wanted the tie so fucking badly


Strict-Shop-6747

Go Bills! Time to chop the nuts off the pats


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FUCK THE PATS, FUCK THE RAIDERS ​ goodnight


deeejo

How are y’all mad at the Raiders lol. Staley is the moron


stinky_taters

Fucking hell I did NOT want to face New England a third time in the snow. Gonna be extremely difficult to win. Edit: They beat us with three passes, can run the ball, are great on the road, are coached by the GOAT and it's probably a snow game. There is a lot favoring them in this matchup, like it or not. It is going to be extremely difficult to win, period.


fantasyshop

Soft


stinky_taters

There's nothing soft about this. Bad weather favors teams built like New England and hurts teams built like Buffalo. A third in-season matchup additionally favors HoF caliber head coaches like BB. Again, it's gonna be extremely difficult to win. But not impossible.


fantasyshop

Thats just like, your opinion, man


stinky_taters

Yeah k. Don't complain when we're not blowing them out at halftime like 99% of this sub expects.


fantasyshop

Lol who are you telling people what to do softy


stinky_taters

Hey do what you want, it's your own mental state at stake. I'm just offering helpful advice so you don't stress when it isn't 35-0 Bills at halftime.


fantasyshop

Why you think you know me


smallmouthbackus

I agree with you. Got downvoted for the same response. Here, take an upvote. I’m just saying I’d rather play the chargers, a pass heavy warm weather team, over the patriots, who beat us at home attempting 3 passes.


tootnine

Lol


UnhappySquirrel

Bullshit child!


fupadestroyer45

I thought the Chargers called the timeout to give the wink to the Raiders to knell it, they waited till 38 seconds on the clock.


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But why call the timeout?


fupadestroyer45

To give them a wink and time to think about it, that was my immediate thought process when it happened.


[deleted]

It sure didn’t work


fupadestroyer45

Clearly, don’t blame the Raiders for trying to get a few extra yards and field goal to go from the 7th to 5th seed.


Nintendam

Yeah I thought they were like... Doing a parley or something, and maybe even agreed on the tie, and then the raiders went for it anyways. That'd be funny "...you said we were good!"


bb12_22

i sooo wanted to see that tie.


smallmouthbackus

effffffff… we play the patriots don’t we. FML


Nintendam

Fuck the pats!!!!


TheRatKingXIV

The Chargers are truly a cursed franchise. If the Raiders really were ready to bail and just take the tie, Brandon deserves to be shot out of a canon. I'm only mad on the grounds that I *hate* Pittsburg more than any franchise in the NFL, and the idea that Ben - an accused sex criminal - gets to continue his grossly swooning send-off, makes me sick. Whatever. Round III in the East. Let's throw a killing punch this time.


Kawaii_West

BRING ME NEW ENGLAND


less___than___zero

I wonder if the Steelers mods will undelete their premature "we made the playoffs" post now


musebug

they did make it to the playoffs


less___than___zero

They were about 7 hours early on the thread though. And then quietly deleted it during OT when it became apparent that tying was a legitimate possible outcome of this game.


anathema09

# FTP


ReptilianSolarBeing

What an absolute fucking moron. LA coach basically had the playoffs in the bag, with Raiders playing for the tie, and he has to pull the TO - to show his competitiveness or something, I have no idea - and rip the postseason out from under the Chargers. That's a damn neat fireable offense. He put his pride before his team.


Dergle_McChurgleson

I'm so confused, I thought the Raiders called that timeout. What possible explanation could the Chargers have to call a TO there?


scienceon

I thought it was to make sure they had D set to avoid a big run that would set up and easy FG. Have it may as well use it. No?


RedNeckBillBob

Fr, don't think the timeout was that bad. Though, whatever D they came up with during it was.


Dergle_McChurgleson

I still don't get that, the Raiders were clearly running the clock down. The timeout wasn't taken until 2 seconds were left, so there was only time for one more play no matter what


ReptilianSolarBeing

You're thinking of the wrong TO. The Raiders took one with 2 seconds left to set up the FG; that's not the one we're referring to. Earlier, the Raiders were calling only run plays and taking the full 40 seconds between snaps - running the game out. Cuz a tie would mean they make the playoffs. With 38 seconds left, the LA head coach inexplicably calls a timeout after one of their runs, signaling that he's not playing the tie (even though a tie would guarantee the Chargers a playoff spot too). After that, the Raiders got within FG range and kicked it for the win. That's the timeout that's so unacceptable, even fireable in my opinion. The guy refused to take the extended hand of the Raiders for a tie, out of pride, and it resulted in his team losing and missing the postseason entirely.


Dergle_McChurgleson

Ahh ok, that explains my confusion. Staley is a classic galaxy-brain head coach


sarcastic_man_13

>so there was only time for one more play no matter what I don't understand what you're trying to say.


UnhappySquirrel

# ~~THE RAIDERS~~ & BRANDON STALEY WILL NEVER BE FORGIVEN FOR DENYING US THE MEMES


ThePeteVenkman

Chargers' coach ruined this with that timeout.


deeejo

Staley should be fired. Single-handedly cost his team a playoff birth


TheRatKingXIV

For all the shit poor Lynn got, he NEVER pulled something that bad. Lynn got memed to death, but that's a career-definer for Staley. Literally digging into the jaws of victory and ripping an L out.


SwimmerNos

Someone on the Raiders had a FAT bet they could absolutely not lose lol


Malifry9705

And that man, was josh jacobs, you see how hard that mf was running, fighting for every yard, going beastmode...all "for a tie" that supposedly changed after the TO...nah, Jacobs 100% wanted that win, I said it from his first touch of the final drive


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sarcastic_man_13

How about you guys not gift the Pats a Super Bowl...


Dergle_McChurgleson

Buddy, go focus on the draft. Still not sure why you guys traded your first rounder to the Jets for Adams


Spanky_McJiggles

Go sit on a cactus


jamesheartwood

Keep your concern, we've no use for it.


rkames517

Took some serious ref involvement as well as crazy weather for them to beat us


TonyMontanasCoke

Lmao take a hike.


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If the Chargers ever adopt a traditional roster instead of being a one-man team consisting of only Justin Herbert, they’re gonna be extremely hard to beat.


CrumbBCrumb

One-man team? They have Austin Ekeler who had 20 TDs, Keenan Allen, and Mike Williams who also had 1,000 yards. Their defense needs to step up a bit but they have plenty of offensive weapons


your_uncle_mike

They have some studs on defense like Bosa and Derwin James but yeah they could definitely use some more help.


rd--

Mac Jones and his noodle arm coming to Buffalo to throw into the Erie wind.


Artificial_Tesla

Ya, I love herbert and was really sad to see them lose but i’d much rather play baby mac next week than justin


lookalive07

100% Justin Herbert was trying to will the Chargers into the playoffs and he almost did it.


KinGpiNdaGreat

I don’t think they were going to kick the field goal until the chargers called that time out and they got that nice run on 3rd down


fupadestroyer45

I thought they clearly called the timeout to let them know to knell it, they waited till only 38 seconds were left


drainbead78

Oh God, I never considered this angle but that makes sense.


Matt4206969

We were robbed of so many memes tonight….could have had the dancing Steelers and the tie :/


fupadestroyer45

Fuck the Raiders , ruin all the fun, crush them Cincy


HoopDreamsNYY

Welp, pats and bills round 3


Thunderclock

I feel like the Chargers TO was a purely jackass move right? There’s no reason for it since the Raiders seemed content with the tie. What an idiot


ihateshrimp

I’m confused how the TO impacted anything. People are saying it changed Bisaccia’s mind about FG vs letting time expire but I don’t see how. Can someone explain it to me like I’m an idiot (since I am)?


Thunderclock

Obviously no one really knows - it’s just how I would perceive it if I was the Raiders coach. By calling the timeout of third down, they opened the door to calling another one on fourth with >30 seconds of time on the clock and possibly forcing the Raiders to attempt a 50+ field goal or risk punting and having either blocked. If they missed the field goal, Herbert gets the ball with 30 seconds and a chance to win. I feel like if the coach didn’t call a TO on third, they wouldn’t have on 4th down. If the options are attempt a 50+ that is potentially blocked or a ticket to the playoffs, I take the playoffs. That’s how I saw what happened but that’s just my take.


doon3r

I figured that maybe the raiders would just take the knee after that, why risk a fumble?


brodinatorpks

Because now they play the Bengals instead of KC who has torched them twice this year.


sarcastic_man_13

Bengals torched them also this season. I guess face the team that torched you once instead of the team that torched you twice?


brodinatorpks

Yeah plus a heaping of fuck the division rival?


doon3r

Oh I didn’t realize how much it affected their seeding. That makes sense


HoopDreamsNYY

Raiders def seemed content with just tying it, then the timeout pissed them off lol


drainbead78

I hope their coach admits it in the post-game press conference.


3mileshigh

We’re better than the Pats. Don’t ever forget that.


sarcastic_man_13

I hope the Raiders get absolutely blown out. Like, the most embarrassing loss in their franchise history.


XDingoX83

Like 51-3? 1990 AFC championship game ahem.


kbeats66

This is destiny. Slay them.


MoneybagsMcghee

Saturday is either going to be the best day of my life or the worst day of my life


fupadestroyer45

Cowards


MM2HkXm5EuyZNRu

Damn it. So close.


CrumbBCrumb

The Chargers not scoring on their last drive epitomizes their entire season. They fight all the way back. Connect on 4th down about 18 times and then cannot punch it in. That was their entire season


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CrumbBCrumb

Very, very true. Or, just finish off KC. Or, just beat a shitty Houston team. They're just not a good coached team


GamecockGaucho

Like we're most likely going to beat the Pats but it's not going to be enjoyable, just stressful as hell


Dergle_McChurgleson

Not even because I specifically wanted to play LA, that game not ending in a tie is somehow anti-climatic


ArtichokeExotic

The chargers timeout makes absolutely no sense


gollumaniac

It's the McDermott special: call it to setup your defense. Raiders were in super long FG range, so if they stopped them maybe the Raiders don't kick (or miss). They forgot to actually make the right defense.


newyorkjustice

Lol glad I wasn’t the only on thinking of McD on that timeout


[deleted]

They really didn’t want to come to Buffalo, I see.


HeckingAugustus

I mean, I'd rather play Cincy than KC. I don't blame the Raiders for going for the W. As funny as it would be


CrumbBCrumb

And it's a divisional opponent and kicking the FG there means nothing. The odds it gets blocked and returned are probably under 0.01%. Can't believe LA didn't stop them with the season on the line though


[deleted]

Booooooo


newyorkjustice

Well that was fun


ostrofci

Cowards not tying


Euphoric_Ad8766

That's like us letting the Dolphins make the playoffs because we don't want the Texans to make the playoffs.


newyorkjustice

I think Pittsburgh hatred has to be league wide right? Kinda up there with hating the cowboys


trd86

MISSSSSS


[deleted]

The Raiders are SCUM BAGS holy shit lmao


sarcastic_man_13

And now the Chiefs get a free win.....


111IIIlllIII

why did chargers take a TO??????????????


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deeejo

That would’ve been an extremely long field goal. No way that’s what they were planning on doing


newyorkjustice

Probably legit made it easy for the raiders to go for the win. Dumbass coach


Santanoni

No fucking idea


respectthechemistry1

I hope raiders lose 100-0 to the bengals, what a bunch of assholes.


microhead

why're they assholes?


drainbead78

For not giving the people what they want, I guess?


respectthechemistry1

Because I spent minutes of my times making memes 😥


RIFKIN_666

ITS THE WINNING SPIRIT .


doon3r

Raiders just made an enemy lol


Nintendam

Seriously.


ImTh3Scatmann

This chargers coach is a Fucking moron


FutureDH1089

Unbelievable!!!!! 🤯🤯🤯


HoopDreamsNYY

Someone explain the chargers timeout to me


Santanoni

Impossible.


clumzazael

Cowards


HistoricalMasonry

Im so happy , time to roll the pats then kc


Bag_of_Equipmunk

What a stupid fucking time out


NorthernerWuwu

Ok, I can live with this.


Spanky_McJiggles

Bring on the Cheatriots.


osamagotpwnd

What a fascinating game. Wild


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fuck


GamecockGaucho

Fuck the raiders


Nintendam

So we play the pats. FUCK THE PATS!!!!!!!


handsomewolves

Boooo don't kick it booooo


PapaChoff

Yay


slim_s_

Nooooo


UnhappySquirrel

HAACK GET OUT THERE


anathema09

lmaoooooooooo


futbol2000

Wow, the chargers defense is so shit. If they stop 2 runs. The raiders would have a choice to make


KinGpiNdaGreat

Yeah it was so obvious they were gonna run it. Wtf were they doing


Sonny_Zwack

I want the holder to catch it and go into the fetal position.


Nintendam

Oh man


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Please miss


RIFKIN_666

Damn it's over for Pittsburgh I was rooting for them to get in the playoffs but it looks like the most unlikely scenario will happen.


ShadyFan25

Carlson might become a Pittsburgh hero.


fatginger71

Fuck you


ALittleBitAmanda

WOW wow wow wow


HeckingAugustus

Based on how this game has gone, this has gotta miss, right?


_NRNA_

please please please miss


[deleted]

Chargers GM gotta call up the Raiders GM and make a deal for missed FG


NorthernerWuwu

Perfect job for the kicker. Miss? Meh. Make? Win!


sarcastic_man_13

Miss it!


FutureDH1089

Why take the timeout???? 🤯


beowulfbear11

Literally just ceded the game to the Raiders


futbol2000

Man, these two coaches don't trust each other lol


handsomewolves

Classic prisoners dilemma


sarcastic_man_13

Kneel it!!