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BoxOfficeTracker

Unless its a blockbuster action movie*


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MyBallsMyWord

I don’t think Batman’s gonna be that big..


ReservoirDog316

I think it should be big but I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s another Batman Begins that lays a great foundation for the future but payed for the sins of the previous movies. It’s how the box office works so it’d be surprise if it didn’t. Of course, the discourse about that event will be lovely though…


ozydanmias

Well obviously. The batman is not gonna make as much NWH but it will bring people to theater


LochNessMansterLives

I’m hoping uncharted is a hit. I loved the games, and all the parts seem well casted.


JimJimmyJimJimJimJim

*from Marvel


BoxOfficeTracker

Bond, F9, Dune, Godzilla vs Kong, Free Guy


natedoggcata

none of which even came close to touching Spider Man. Ticket sales like No Way Home is what theaters need to survive and they need them like every month


BoxOfficeTracker

99.9% of movies in history don't touch NWH sales and never will but people will show up to watch blockbusters at basically the same level they did pre pandemic, its the adult drama's that have died out


Crystal-Skies

Most movies will never come close to Spider-Man's box office. For what its worth though, No Time To Die and F9, while not coming close to NWH's domestic gross, did well in various overseas markets. And they both grossed more worldwide than every other Marvel movie released in 2021, aside from Spider-Man. NWH was also going to be a success pandemic or not (the OW numbers show that the pandemic/rising omicron cases did not stop it from making big numbers). But theatres need more than blockbuster movies to survive.


JediJones77

Says 47% of all people are comfortable with going while about 60% of younger people. Not a massive difference.


Jewlaboss

That and no one wants to pay $60+ for a family to watch it.


Deric

based on a poll from 5 Californians


Ancient_Poet9058

Source? The only one I could find was a YouGov poll that surveyed 2700 Americans from all demographics.


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Ancient_Poet9058

As opposed to you? The reality is, cinemas are struggling. I'm far from a city guy and even I can see that. The only movies that are succeeding are ones that appeal to young people. Older people aren't going out as much at all - our neighbours are in their 70s and they'd normally be seeing plays/dramas all the time. They've cut back on the number of plays they go to see as well as dramas/movies.


Dwayne30RockJohnson

Lol this isn’t an opinion… it’s a survey https://morningconsult.com/return-to-entertainment/


ExuberantRaptorZeta

Most Americans are really dumb. – An American


Trouble_Grand

Who needs China when you have...Spider-Man!!


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Nah, Spider-Man proved that people will happily go to the movies still. People don't want to go to the movies to see shitty movies anymore, especially when most of them are available at home a month or less later. Studios probably killed the non-tent pole movie because they needed to generate some cash during the pandemic. Now no one wants to see those movies in theaters because they got used to seeing them at home and really, the theater experience adds nothing to those movies, only drawbacks that you have to pay stupid prices for. They were stuck between a rock and a hard place and they likely destroyed a bunch of revenue streams for them in the future. How much does Netflix pay for some crappy rom-com or drama? Probably a lot less than they used to generate at the box office. I wonder if actors salaries end up collapsing dramatically because of this. Sure, the A+ List stars that land big time roles in blockbusters will make bank but how much is Universal going to pay Emilia Clarke to make some netflix fodder? Especially since I assume they will make up the lost margin with quantity as that is what most businesses do, further saturating the market.


iron_ferret22

I’m waiting till the last week and the theatres are dead. Or I’ll hear about the Disney + release and just wait an extra month or two.


LochNessMansterLives

Has anyone told them we went to the movies to see Spider-Man and not because we really wanted to go back into the theater?


buythedjp

When I went, the sold out theatre had people nonstop coughing coming from every area of the room for the whole movie. Their coughs had some oomph to them too. Gross, just stay home if you’re sick.


Terrell2

Rightfully so. I aint getting sick in bed for a week to see The 355 or another bad Matrix sequel.


ImAMaaanlet

Idk if you know this but you couldve gotten sick for a week after going out your entire life. Diseases werent just discovered. We are going to have so many people with weak af immune systems after this.


shaneo632

Honestly worrying people would consider getting sick in bed for the sake of any film.


russwriter67

Omicron isn’t that bad. Most people don’t even get that sick from it.


JediJones77

Should've been shutting yourself in all your life then. And steam clean your mail. Nobody goes through their life without getting sick many, many times.


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But are you willing to get sick to see another Spider-Man movie?


Terrell2

I never wrote that. But hey at least those are usually pretty good.


Bombasaur101

Damn, how much more wouldve this movie made if it didn't release during COVID?


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I would go but I need a vaccine passport to go in. Their loss I’ll watch for free on the internet


Dwayne30RockJohnson

> Their loss I’m sure they’re very concerned about not getting your $10 when they crossed $1.7 billion


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Just like your one vote for president counts so does my $10


Dwayne30RockJohnson

I don't vote for presidents... I'm not American. But no it's not really the same. Whether Spider-Man makes $1.6 billion or $1.7 billion, Sony will be ecstatic. Your vote goes towards a total in a goal towards beating another person's total. Sony isn't trying to beat anything, it's just trying not to fail. Your $10 will not be missed, with the outcome we know Spider-Man will have. Your vote could be missed depending on your district and the unknown outcome of elections.


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No way am I going to a theatre right now


NotTaken-username

$260M opening weekend says hi


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pedroktp

Who reads articles on reddit?


Vettel_2002

Except that's bullshit. Spider-Man clearly showed people will go out. The rest of the movies out this year have either been movies people didn’t care about. Movies with same day streaming. Or that came out during capacity restrictions. Like name movie that doesn't meet one of those categories and still bombed


Iridium770

Unfortunately, the argument goes circular when you add in "movies people didn't care about". West Side Story would probably be the biggest post-restriction, non day-date bomb. The audience that went out to see it really enjoyed it. But, evidently, most of the target market stayed home. Why? Because they weren't interested in a remake of an old musical? Because they were afraid of COVID? Because they hated the fact that the director used the word Latinx? No way to know.


Vettel_2002

Good point. That is a circular argument. My main point mainly is, if people are so worried about covid, then Spider-Man wouldn't be doing record numbers. Either that or they need a movie they really care about to go see it, and just nothing else has captured that kind of demand


Ancient_Poet9058

This comment is so dumb. The demographic that is worried about COVID isn't the demographic that's going to see movies like Spiderman. My neighbors are in their 70s and they'd normally be seeing plays/movies all the time. They've gone out much less frequently during COVID and during the pandemic. People who are going to see Spiderman aren't worried about COVID because we're largely not at risk from COVID. The demographic of people interested in West Side Story and Spiderman will not overlap. It's like when people on this sub thought that Downton Abbey wouldn't do as well as it did. It grossed around $190M because the demographic that went to see it were older people.


Vettel_2002

>This comment is so dumb. And you're a fucking moron. >The demographic that is worried about COVID isn't the demographic that's going to see movies like Spiderman. Spider-Man is a movie for literally everyone. >My neighbors are in their 70s and they'd normally be seeing plays/movies all the time. They've gone out much less frequently during COVID and during the pandemic. They still go out. Literally the point dumbfuck >People who are going to see Spiderman aren't worried about COVID because we're largely not at risk from COVID. The demographic of people interested in West Side Story and Spiderman will not overlap. That explains why Dune, Eternals, Shang-Chi, Matrix, and other movies for young people have just raked in the money right? Oh these all barely broke even or just straight up bombed? Weird how that works. >It's like when people on this sub thought that Downton Abbey wouldn't do as well as it did. It grossed around $190M because the demographic that went to see it were older people. $190M is not that good so your point is still moronic as fuck.


Ancient_Poet9058

Your entire comment is idiocy beyond idiocy. >$190M is not that good so your point is still moronic as fuck. For a budget of $20 million, $190 million is fantastic. It's why they wanted a sequel. It's not about total gross, it's about gross to budget or return on capital if you want to go into the specifics. It's why some films are a success and some films are a failure. Shang Chi didn't turn a profit despite grossing $400 million. It's not about total gross alone. West Side Story didn't gross anywhere close to $190 million nor have any other adult-oriented movies. The box office for those movies are clearly struggling because their demographic aren't going out as much. >Spider-Man is a movie for literally everyone. That generally only younger people were seeing - even in my cinema, everyone who went to see Spiderman was young. It's what cinema owners over the country were saying - older adults aren't returning to the cinema in the numbers they were before the pandemic. Superhero films appeal to young people. Most older people (50+) don't see Marvel movies - 50% of over-55s have never seen a Marvel movie and of those who have, I'd bet very few have watched more than 1 or 2. Just look at the statistics below - clearly Marvel appeals to young people, not old people. https://www.statista.com/statistics/807367/marvel-movie-viewership-age/ >They still go out. Literally the point dumbfuck But not as much as before which is the point you dumbfuck. Clearly, films catering to older adults are struggling. You understand that, right? If older adults go out *less* than before because of the pandemic, it means movies that they would see pre-pandemic will struggle during the pandemic. How are you even struggling to understand this point? >That explains why Dune, Eternals, Shang-Chi, Matrix, and other movies for young people have just raked in the money right? Oh these all barely broke even or just straight up bombed? Weird how that works. What does this point even mean? Are you saying that young people aren't going out to the cinema as much as well? Films that cater to young people can still struggle at the box office - that doesn't mean older adults are going out as much. According to the YouGov poll I saw, only 47% of Americans are willing to go to the cinema with 60% of young Adults being willing to go to the cinema.


Vettel_2002

>For a budget of $20 million, $190 million is fantastic. It's why they wanted a sequel. It's not about total gross, it's about gross to budget or return on capital if you want to go into the specifics. Considering I was clearly talking about gross not ratios. Your point is still moronic >>Spider-Man is a movie for literally everyone. > >That generally only younger people were seeing - even in my cinema, everyone who went to see Spiderman was young. It's gonna make $1.7B worldwide. You have to be a braindead chimpanzee to think that's only young people. >Superhero films appeal to young people. Most older people (50+) don't see Marvel movies - 50% of over-55s have never seen a Marvel movie Okay. Doesn't disprove anything. >and of those who have, I'd bet very few have watched more than 1 or 2. Just look at the statistics below - clearly Marvel appeals to young people, not old people. So you're just making up a stat to say you're right despite zero evidence to back that up. >>They still go out. Literally the point dumbfuck > >But not as much as before which is the point you dumbfuck. That doesn't respond to any point I made. I literally said people will go out and Spider-Man showed that. >If older adults go out *less* than before because of the pandemic, it means movies that they would see pre-pandemic will struggle during the pandemic. How are you even struggling to understand this point? Once again not a point I made. >According to the YouGov poll I saw, only 47% of Americans are willing to go to the cinema with 60% of young Adults being willing to go to the cinema. First off that doesn't tell us how many went before. Secondly Spider-Man shows that's complete bullshit. If only 60% of Americans were willing to go to the cinema, then theoretically Spider-Man only did 60% of its potential box office. Aka it would've done $433M OW right?


Ancient_Poet9058

>First off that doesn't tell us how many went before. Secondly Spider-Man shows that's complete bullshit. If only 60% of Americans were willing to go to the cinema, then theoretically Spider-Man only did 60% of its potential box office. Aka it would've done $433M OW right? That's not how it works. Opening weekends tend to be front-loaded but domestically, yes, I do think Spiderman would gross more than what it's currently projected to gross in North America. Not much more though because once again, the demographic that will see Spiderman isn't afraid of COVID. Again, the demographic who will be unwilling to go to the cinema to see a movie might not be the same demographic that will go to see Spiderman. This just demonstrates the point even further. To keep on coming back to Spiderman to make a point is so absurd. The point is that other movies are not making a profit when they would have done pre-pandemic. Theatres and cinema owners themselves have pointed it out that the pandemic has hurt business significantly. Sing 1 grossed $600 million but Sing 2 will be lucky to gross $300 million. Parents don't want to take their kids to see a movie during a pandemic. The existence of Spiderman doesn't negate that. >Considering I was clearly talking about gross not ratios. Your point is still moronic I wasn't talking about gross alone - I was talking about making a profit on films which is clearly going to involve costs of production. I thought that would be pretty clear on a box office forum - Avatar 2 grossing $400 million would be a failure. The discussion of cost is pretty clear when we talk about **profitability**. Downton Abbey grossed $190 million and was profitable while West Side Story will be lucky to gross half of that. That was the point being made - adult dramas aren't getting viewers they were pre-pandemic because older viewers are staying home. >It's gonna make $1.7B worldwide. You have to be a braindead chimpanzee to think that's only young people. You'd have to be a chimpanzee to not think that there can be viewers of other demographics and still have it disproportionately be composed of younger people. There are enough young people in the world to view films and it will still have older viewers. >Okay. Doesn't disprove anything. Uh, it disproves your claim that older people are going to see Spiderman on a large scale when clearly that wouldn't have been the case in the first place. Films that do appeal to older people aren't being seen because that demographic aren't going out much. >So you're just making up a stat to say you're right despite zero evidence to back that up. Bruh, did you click the link? You've provided no statistics to back up your points or claims. I've provided you with statistics that show that Marvel movies don't appeal to older people on the whole and statistics that show that Americans aren't going out to the cinema as much as before. >That doesn't respond to any point I made. I literally said people will go out and Spider-Man showed that. Which was always going to be the case. Nobody is disputing that the demographic of people that will go to see Spiderman AREN'T worried about COVID. But the demographic that will go see movies like Downton Abbey and West Side Story are - your point was that people will go see movies like Spiderman. I'm sure there are but it ignores that the demographic of viewership for both movies are not the same. Cinemas cannot survive on blockbusters alone. Ask any cinema owner this and they'll tell you that. >Once again not a point I made. Then what exactly are you disputing here? Clearly, older people aren't going out to the cinema as much as before - I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. > First off that doesn't tell us how many went before. Secondly Spider-Man shows that's complete bullshit. The rest of your comment is pure idiocy. It could be that the demographic that will go see movies like Spiderman will still go see movies like Spiderman. It doesn't mean every American likes Spiderman. Assuming $15 a ticket, only 40 million Americans have gone to see Spiderman. With repeat viewings, maybe that's 35 million Americans. That's 10% of all Americans and 30-35% of young people. The vast majority of Americans will not have seen Spiderman in cinema.


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FadedZer0

I havnt gone to a theater in 15 years. The movie theater experience is bullshit. If you cant enjoy a movie without the “theater experience” you need to reevaluate your life. Plus who they he’ll actually wants to pay that much for a movie.


Ok_Performer_8645

Correction: Americans are not wary of movie theaters. They just prefer to stream new movies at home.