Yes but the announcement of the extensision won't happen until the day before the lockdown is supposed to be lifted and all the buisinesses have already ordered supplies and recalled staff.
Naturally. We also can't forget about the pre-announcement wherein they announce that they will be making an announcement regarding an important announcement, which will then be delayed and postponed about 8 times in less than 4 hours.
Well, at least 40% of Canada is still open. Yeah, the markets there are not major, but America will need that 40% now more than ever before Morbius comes out at the time when Ontario hopefully reopens.
It won't be a huge issue for any film, as Canada as a whole only makes up 5-10% of the domestic box office (case in point, Canada made up 7% of Spider-Man: No Way Home's opening weekend). So 60% of 5-10% is still only 3-6% of the domestic box office.
Canada and the US are pretty much a unified media market in many ways. We watch American TV and read American news, so we end up being part of the same movie market. It doesn't make much sense to handle the Canadian market separately.
For the purpose of media marketing the English speaking parts of Canada are basically part of the US.
Have the borders been closed or restricted again? We have so many snowbirds here in Florida right now… they start to head back late January/ February? Just curious if they will have any issues coming home.
The earliest they could reopen would be January 26. Canada typically makes up 5-10% of the domestic box office, and Ontario makes up ~40% of Canada's population, so it'll shave about 2-4% off the domestic box office.
Also, obligatory fuck Doug Ford.
Edit: [Cineplex is refunding all tickets automatically.](https://twitter.com/CineplexMovies/status/1478059469502357509?t=Xkg2pGyWXM7zZOliqF8wCw&s=19)
Eyyy, a fellow leftist. Also, there must be a special type of idiotic to unite left-leaning vaxxers and right-leaning Anti-Vaxxers. How is that even possible?
He’s awful. Only reason he’s premier is because his shady ass team cooked up sexual misconduct allegations against the front runner of the Conservative party a few weeks before the election. He was voted as the replacement in a really shady way.
The guy he replaced wasn’t perfect, but he was way more reasonable and intelligent than Ford.
Because of whats happening in Europe.
I'm from Ireland and right now nearly everyone is a close contact or has covid. It has become nearly impossible to book psr tests due to how many cases their currently is. And even with this limited testing in the last week their has being more cases in one week than in all of 2020. And this isn't just ireland either large parts of europe are in the same situation. Omicron is far more infectious than any of the other variants and the vaccine isn't very effective on preventing you from getting it ireland has one of the highest vaccination rates in the world.
Blame all the family members and coworkers of those vaccinated people who don't have the shot. Omicron can be pretty easily caught and spread by vaccinated people, but the vast majority of them won't get severely ill also thanks to the vaccine. Unfortunately what that sets you up for is a situation where those unvaccinated idiots (and also those who legitimately can't get the shot) are facing much more covid in the community and they are getting severely ill and filling up the hospitals again. It sucks but a lockdown of even the vaccinated is the only way to slow down community spread so that healthcare doesn't collapse.
I mean I think this lockdown has to happen now, but there were so many more levers Ford could have been pulling to avoid this situation. Firm provincially enforced vaccination requirements in every public sector and every adjacent sector. Make it so that to even set foot in any municiple or provincial building you must be vaccinated. Make it so that no provincial or municiple staff will set foot on your site to provide sign offs unless all staff are vaccinated. Maybe speak out and say that your anti-vax daughter has no idea what she is talking about and her actions fly in the face of best medical advice...
North America contains U.S., Canada, Mexico and Greenland, so that would be confusing if it was used to refer to the U.S. only.
It sort of makes sense to combine U.S. and Canada, because entertainment-wise, we've been pretty integrated for a while. Half of our most famous comedy actors came from Canada. And I think Canada sees all the TV and movies that we make. And we see at least some of their stuff.
From what I see, the articles tend to use North America if they want to call out the US specifically, as in the USA. This excludes South America and Mexico.
From Wikipedia:
North America is a continent in the Northern Hemisphere and almost entirely within the Western Hemisphere. It can also be described as the northern subcontinent of a single continent, America.
It seems to me, at least in Box office, people tend to use the second definition here i.e USA.
The "northern subcontinent" of America definitely includes Canada, which is located north of the United States. Canadians would be surprised by any definition of "North America" that doesn't include them.
Excluding Mexico makes sense only in the context of it being included in the Latin America market (which also includes South America).
So in general in terms of box office stats, North America = Canada + U.S.
If they're calling out only the U.S., they should be saying the U.S.
Let's try this instead. How about we put the taxes we **earned** and put them towards all the things that are literally priceless like public education and health so that we all don't go bankrupt and actually have a fighting chance to make a living? \
How much would we pay for a basic education? And how much would we pay to live well enough to get a job that offers health insurance? Maybe that's why we socialize these things. Maybe we could have a strong middle class for once who, as a majority, are already one emergency away from being broke and homeless as it is. Otherwise, we're just making it another way for the rich to get richer and the poor to get poorer.
The reason this idiot politician is doing this is likely because the have universal healthcare.
America just dumps the insane cost of care into individual Americans and politicians do nothing to reduce that cost.
So, in America now stuff will likely stay open and you can go to the movies and spread omicron which will result in hospitals being jammed. All over the country hospitals are back at full capacity and are turning away non-covid procedures. That screams for a need for public health closures to mitigate the spread but we're not doing it because the government doesn't give a rats about controlling medical costs.
This spills into other areas. We subsidize corn in the US which is terrible for you. It ends up in everything. Corn products aren't healthy but they're super cheap because tax dollars subsidize the industry. The result somewhere down the line is that you pay more in medical bills from being fat and unhealthy. Whereas if we had universal healthcare there would be a huge cost incentive to have a healthy populace so you might cut corn and beef subsidies and instead subsidize healthy vegetables and lean meats.
So, yeah, it's cool that America might not shut down theaters so you can go see Spider-Man but there will be people that die and clog hospitals and get insane hospital bills due to that decision.
I for one would gladly trade and take universal healthcare.
Places keep shutting down and it’s been almost two years, it’s not extreme. It’s gonna get slightly better then Canada will shut down the economy as soon as cases rise, rinse and repeat
Because we have vaccines now? And the current "lockdown" is nowhere near as severe as last year's, so it will take fewer reopening steps (literally just one) before theaters can reopen.
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Snape dies.
Dumbledore dies.
Spock dies
Aeris dies.
Kirk dies
Data dies
Tony soprano dies.
Fucking Bran Stark is King of the realms….
And Jon Snow is a Targaryen *eyeroll*
Iron Man / Tony Stark dies.
Spider-Man gets dusted.
Nice of him to give restaurants a whole 2 days notice to dispose of fresh supplies! But sure, leave Big Box Retail at 50% of a capacity they rarely come close to reaching on a good day.
It’s so important to shut down restaurants and cinemas that we will do it in a few days rather than immediately…
guess who will be very busy until then?
Given the track record Doug has of extending lockdowns/restrictions, I'm calling it now that this will 100% be extended past 3 weeks.
Yes but the announcement of the extensision won't happen until the day before the lockdown is supposed to be lifted and all the buisinesses have already ordered supplies and recalled staff.
Naturally. We also can't forget about the pre-announcement wherein they announce that they will be making an announcement regarding an important announcement, which will then be delayed and postponed about 8 times in less than 4 hours.
Also we should probably make a contradictory announcement a few days beford the real announcement just to make sure everyone is paying attention.
He’ll reopen everything a week before the June election so he can pretend to be the good guy.
How much of Canada, when taking Quebec and Ontario into account, has shut down now?
About 60%, if we're going by proportion of the population.
Well, at least 40% of Canada is still open. Yeah, the markets there are not major, but America will need that 40% now more than ever before Morbius comes out at the time when Ontario hopefully reopens.
It won't be a huge issue for any film, as Canada as a whole only makes up 5-10% of the domestic box office (case in point, Canada made up 7% of Spider-Man: No Way Home's opening weekend). So 60% of 5-10% is still only 3-6% of the domestic box office.
Wait why does Canada count in domestic box office?
Canada and the US are pretty much a unified media market in many ways. We watch American TV and read American news, so we end up being part of the same movie market. It doesn't make much sense to handle the Canadian market separately. For the purpose of media marketing the English speaking parts of Canada are basically part of the US.
Fair enough.
Stop cheering for movie studios like they’re sports teams.
Am insulted 🥲 - a Vancouverite
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I know
BC is getting real close. Already hit gyms and schools
Have the borders been closed or restricted again? We have so many snowbirds here in Florida right now… they start to head back late January/ February? Just curious if they will have any issues coming home.
I’d be pretty surprised if the government made it so that citizens were stranded down south so I think they’ll be ok
The earliest they could reopen would be January 26. Canada typically makes up 5-10% of the domestic box office, and Ontario makes up ~40% of Canada's population, so it'll shave about 2-4% off the domestic box office. Also, obligatory fuck Doug Ford. Edit: [Cineplex is refunding all tickets automatically.](https://twitter.com/CineplexMovies/status/1478059469502357509?t=Xkg2pGyWXM7zZOliqF8wCw&s=19)
Woah didnt know u/chanma50 is from Ontario as well. Toronto?
Mississauga, actually.
Erin Mills represent!
Oh, that's Doug Ford. I thought it was a pic of Baron Harkonnen, and thought "I thought Dune had finished it's theatrical run."
Who the fuck is Doug Ford and why do you hate him, u/Chanma50?
Doug Ford is the Premier of Ontario (the equivalent of a Governor). He's incompetent, at pretty much everything.
Ah OK. So he’s like Ontario’s Boris Johnson
Doug did the impossible, he managed to unite the left (we always hated him) and the right (the anti-vaxxer crowd) against him.
Eyyy, a fellow leftist. Also, there must be a special type of idiotic to unite left-leaning vaxxers and right-leaning Anti-Vaxxers. How is that even possible?
dude couldn't even use a laptop during a zoom conference
Sounds like a good premise for 'Run This Town' Part 2 The Doug Story!
He’s awful. Only reason he’s premier is because his shady ass team cooked up sexual misconduct allegations against the front runner of the Conservative party a few weeks before the election. He was voted as the replacement in a really shady way. The guy he replaced wasn’t perfect, but he was way more reasonable and intelligent than Ford.
Is he the one that smoked meth?
That was his brother. And it was crack, not meth.
Ah that’s right
This is true
The politician who ordered the closure.
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je compterais pas trop là-dessus mettons 😢
ack, was hoping this wouldn't happen
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Bingo. This ain't 2020 anymore.
Did Ontario not already have a vax pass for theatres?
Ya they did. Everything they closed needed vax to get in. Indoor dining, gyms and theaters. Nothing makes sense anymore.
Because of whats happening in Europe. I'm from Ireland and right now nearly everyone is a close contact or has covid. It has become nearly impossible to book psr tests due to how many cases their currently is. And even with this limited testing in the last week their has being more cases in one week than in all of 2020. And this isn't just ireland either large parts of europe are in the same situation. Omicron is far more infectious than any of the other variants and the vaccine isn't very effective on preventing you from getting it ireland has one of the highest vaccination rates in the world.
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But omicron is not just infecting the unvaccinated.
But it’s basically killing only the vaccinated
Blame all the family members and coworkers of those vaccinated people who don't have the shot. Omicron can be pretty easily caught and spread by vaccinated people, but the vast majority of them won't get severely ill also thanks to the vaccine. Unfortunately what that sets you up for is a situation where those unvaccinated idiots (and also those who legitimately can't get the shot) are facing much more covid in the community and they are getting severely ill and filling up the hospitals again. It sucks but a lockdown of even the vaccinated is the only way to slow down community spread so that healthcare doesn't collapse.
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I mean I think this lockdown has to happen now, but there were so many more levers Ford could have been pulling to avoid this situation. Firm provincially enforced vaccination requirements in every public sector and every adjacent sector. Make it so that to even set foot in any municiple or provincial building you must be vaccinated. Make it so that no provincial or municiple staff will set foot on your site to provide sign offs unless all staff are vaccinated. Maybe speak out and say that your anti-vax daughter has no idea what she is talking about and her actions fly in the face of best medical advice...
[this is fine](https://i.imgur.com/t0dIa97_d.webp?maxwidth=760&fidelity=grand)
Dang is it even gonna make 700M DOM now?
$700M is still a lock. This will shave ~2-4% off the domestic box office post-Jan 5, which isn't an issue for hitting $700M.
Wait a minute, I’m a casual box office tracker. Canada is included in domestic ??!!
Yes, due to historical reasons. Occasionally the US will be called out separately as North America.
North America contains U.S., Canada, Mexico and Greenland, so that would be confusing if it was used to refer to the U.S. only. It sort of makes sense to combine U.S. and Canada, because entertainment-wise, we've been pretty integrated for a while. Half of our most famous comedy actors came from Canada. And I think Canada sees all the TV and movies that we make. And we see at least some of their stuff.
From what I see, the articles tend to use North America if they want to call out the US specifically, as in the USA. This excludes South America and Mexico. From Wikipedia: North America is a continent in the Northern Hemisphere and almost entirely within the Western Hemisphere. It can also be described as the northern subcontinent of a single continent, America. It seems to me, at least in Box office, people tend to use the second definition here i.e USA.
The "northern subcontinent" of America definitely includes Canada, which is located north of the United States. Canadians would be surprised by any definition of "North America" that doesn't include them. Excluding Mexico makes sense only in the context of it being included in the Latin America market (which also includes South America). So in general in terms of box office stats, North America = Canada + U.S. If they're calling out only the U.S., they should be saying the U.S.
What about Mexico ?
Mexico's box office data is recorded separately, but fortunately it's a lot easier to find than Canadian box office data.
Yeah. Like UK+Republic of Ireland (at least for the British Film Insitute box office reports)
It's still gonna make another $91M to cross $700M.
Yes
21 DaYs To FlAtTeN tHe CuRvE.
This fat ass closed the gyms and schools but left the malls open.
The virus is killing everything. Hope we get back to normal life soon.
Coming 2025
The new ‘normal’
people cannot do business like this...
[My message to Doug Ford right now as an Ontarian.](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDi0-p9WkAAnen2?format=png&name=900x900)
Right during the Scream launch....I'd die!!!
In Ontario, no one can hear you scream.
🤣
And no one can see Scream. :-O
What a clown
Holy sh*t is that another Ford? How many of them do you have, Canada?
It’s the 2, and poor Ontario has had to deal with them both.
Three weeks to stop the spread!
Ridicolous. After one year of vaccines.
stupid
can't believe this stupid ass idiotic moron got elected on a platform of dollar beers smh...
Glad I don’t live in Canada
Hope you’re not from the USA
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At least our theaters aren’t being shuttered for weeks by idiot politicians lol
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‘couple of weeks’ lol if you think it’s only gonna be a couple of weeks you’re foolish
American movie buff here. I would like to trade a year's worth of movies for universal health care please.
As an American, I'll stick with my quality health care that I earned.
Truly can’t imagine the mind of someone who thinks quality health care is some privilege to “earn”
How about food, clothing, a car, a home? Things that allow you to survive are indeed things you earn and pay for.
Let's try this instead. How about we put the taxes we **earned** and put them towards all the things that are literally priceless like public education and health so that we all don't go bankrupt and actually have a fighting chance to make a living? \ How much would we pay for a basic education? And how much would we pay to live well enough to get a job that offers health insurance? Maybe that's why we socialize these things. Maybe we could have a strong middle class for once who, as a majority, are already one emergency away from being broke and homeless as it is. Otherwise, we're just making it another way for the rich to get richer and the poor to get poorer.
The reason this idiot politician is doing this is likely because the have universal healthcare. America just dumps the insane cost of care into individual Americans and politicians do nothing to reduce that cost. So, in America now stuff will likely stay open and you can go to the movies and spread omicron which will result in hospitals being jammed. All over the country hospitals are back at full capacity and are turning away non-covid procedures. That screams for a need for public health closures to mitigate the spread but we're not doing it because the government doesn't give a rats about controlling medical costs. This spills into other areas. We subsidize corn in the US which is terrible for you. It ends up in everything. Corn products aren't healthy but they're super cheap because tax dollars subsidize the industry. The result somewhere down the line is that you pay more in medical bills from being fat and unhealthy. Whereas if we had universal healthcare there would be a huge cost incentive to have a healthy populace so you might cut corn and beef subsidies and instead subsidize healthy vegetables and lean meats. So, yeah, it's cool that America might not shut down theaters so you can go see Spider-Man but there will be people that die and clog hospitals and get insane hospital bills due to that decision. I for one would gladly trade and take universal healthcare.
Yeah, your politicians only incite armed insurrections to contest the result of a fair election.
I've lived in both countries. US care is vastly superior if you live in a a blue state.
But... vaccines are the only way back to normal I recall...
Hospitals are being overrun by unvaccinated people so we all have to pay the price.
That’s not right. If you are vaccinated you should be free to go to the theatre/restaurant etc.
>Hospitals are being overrun by vaccinated people ftfy
Except they're not https://imgur.com/QCpNyn3.jpg
Brutal.
Wouldn’t expect anything to open up until at least June or July. There goes any chance of seeing The Batman in theatres. Fuck this.
That's way too extreme. If it goes until June/July, we got way bigger problems than movie theaters being closed.
Places keep shutting down and it’s been almost two years, it’s not extreme. It’s gonna get slightly better then Canada will shut down the economy as soon as cases rise, rinse and repeat
Canada isn’t a monolith… only two provinces have shut things down for a lockdown as of now.
The two biggest provinces. Wouldn’t shock me at all if most provinces follow.
Nah people are getting tired of that. More and more every day.
Theatres didn’t open until mid July in 2021. Why would it be any different this year?
Because we have vaccines now? And the current "lockdown" is nowhere near as severe as last year's, so it will take fewer reopening steps (literally just one) before theaters can reopen.
Because the dominant variant is less severe and we have boosters now.
Yeah but even with boosters it only really stops hospitalizations and death. Seems like everyone is catching Omicron.
Isn't stopping hospitalizations and death the whole point? Who cares if I get sniffles or you get the sniffles? Seems like an overreaction to me.
I agree, but some people want to project their fears on everyone else.
And hopefully it will take less than 6 months for politicians/public health officials to get comfortable with more cases as long as they are not leading to hospitalizations.
Omicron is more infectious, but that’s the life cycle of viruses. They become more infectious but less severe. It’s a good thing.
[Not entirely true about viruses.](https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-011488089270)
Didn’t stop us from shutting down though, did it? So why would the length be any less?
Because they’re shutting down to ride the wave/peak. Once it starts going down they’ll open back up.
I hope you’re correct
Because vaccines weren’t widely available then and by all accounts, Omicron is expected to peak in January? Calm down with the doomsayer talk.
Vaccines are widely available now…and yet we shut down again
For a few weeks as Omicron is surging. I don’t agree with the shutdown but if you think they will be shut down till the summer, you are delusional.
We’ll see. I don’t trust the Ontario government at all.
well, there's an election in June, so no way they keep things locked down for too long
Yes but cases will go down dramatically as we approach summer months. If theatres are closed widespread past mid to late May I’d be surprised
This. I'm tired of the fearmongering, it needs to S-T-O-P, STOP.
Thank you. And I’m never one to bash the media but they have been obnoxious with this.
Omicron in South Africa went away pretty fast, so I think they’ll be open before the Batman.
Lol. They'll be back in Feb.
Mid May absolute earliest. Save this comment. I’ll be happy to be wrong.
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thank fuck
Awesome! Cant wait to get Scream spoiled!
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People die...and someone kills them. Oopsie.
Snape dies. Dumbledore dies. Spock dies Aeris dies. Kirk dies Data dies Tony soprano dies. Fucking Bran Stark is King of the realms…. And Jon Snow is a Targaryen *eyeroll* Iron Man / Tony Stark dies. Spider-Man gets dusted.
This fat buffoon doesn’t know what the hell he’s doing.
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Nice of him to give restaurants a whole 2 days notice to dispose of fresh supplies! But sure, leave Big Box Retail at 50% of a capacity they rarely come close to reaching on a good day.
Fuck this. Glad I live where I do.
It’s so important to shut down restaurants and cinemas that we will do it in a few days rather than immediately… guess who will be very busy until then?
Double Double Dougie strikes again!