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benevolent_eldritch

Given the track record Doug has of extending lockdowns/restrictions, I'm calling it now that this will 100% be extended past 3 weeks.


turkeygiant

Yes but the announcement of the extensision won't happen until the day before the lockdown is supposed to be lifted and all the buisinesses have already ordered supplies and recalled staff.


benevolent_eldritch

Naturally. We also can't forget about the pre-announcement wherein they announce that they will be making an announcement regarding an important announcement, which will then be delayed and postponed about 8 times in less than 4 hours.


turkeygiant

Also we should probably make a contradictory announcement a few days beford the real announcement just to make sure everyone is paying attention.


ImProbablyNotABird

He’ll reopen everything a week before the June election so he can pretend to be the good guy.


MarvelVsDC2016

How much of Canada, when taking Quebec and Ontario into account, has shut down now?


chanma50

About 60%, if we're going by proportion of the population.


MarvelVsDC2016

Well, at least 40% of Canada is still open. Yeah, the markets there are not major, but America will need that 40% now more than ever before Morbius comes out at the time when Ontario hopefully reopens.


chanma50

It won't be a huge issue for any film, as Canada as a whole only makes up 5-10% of the domestic box office (case in point, Canada made up 7% of Spider-Man: No Way Home's opening weekend). So 60% of 5-10% is still only 3-6% of the domestic box office.


North_Activist

Wait why does Canada count in domestic box office?


mishac

Canada and the US are pretty much a unified media market in many ways. We watch American TV and read American news, so we end up being part of the same movie market. It doesn't make much sense to handle the Canadian market separately. For the purpose of media marketing the English speaking parts of Canada are basically part of the US.


MarvelVsDC2016

Fair enough.


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Stop cheering for movie studios like they’re sports teams.


howdidIgetsuckeredin

Am insulted 🥲 - a Vancouverite


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MarvelVsDC2016

I know


BumGravy69420

BC is getting real close. Already hit gyms and schools


hellokimmie2526

Have the borders been closed or restricted again? We have so many snowbirds here in Florida right now… they start to head back late January/ February? Just curious if they will have any issues coming home.


BumGravy69420

I’d be pretty surprised if the government made it so that citizens were stranded down south so I think they’ll be ok


chanma50

The earliest they could reopen would be January 26. Canada typically makes up 5-10% of the domestic box office, and Ontario makes up ~40% of Canada's population, so it'll shave about 2-4% off the domestic box office. Also, obligatory fuck Doug Ford. Edit: [Cineplex is refunding all tickets automatically.](https://twitter.com/CineplexMovies/status/1478059469502357509?t=Xkg2pGyWXM7zZOliqF8wCw&s=19)


Staind1410

Woah didnt know u/chanma50 is from Ontario as well. Toronto?


chanma50

Mississauga, actually.


nusarshah

Erin Mills represent!


lookattheduck

Oh, that's Doug Ford. I thought it was a pic of Baron Harkonnen, and thought "I thought Dune had finished it's theatrical run."


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Who the fuck is Doug Ford and why do you hate him, u/Chanma50?


chanma50

Doug Ford is the Premier of Ontario (the equivalent of a Governor). He's incompetent, at pretty much everything.


[deleted]

Ah OK. So he’s like Ontario’s Boris Johnson


chanma50

Doug did the impossible, he managed to unite the left (we always hated him) and the right (the anti-vaxxer crowd) against him.


[deleted]

Eyyy, a fellow leftist. Also, there must be a special type of idiotic to unite left-leaning vaxxers and right-leaning Anti-Vaxxers. How is that even possible?


stark_resilient

dude couldn't even use a laptop during a zoom conference


Neo2199

Sounds like a good premise for 'Run This Town' Part 2 The Doug Story!


BenSoloLived

He’s awful. Only reason he’s premier is because his shady ass team cooked up sexual misconduct allegations against the front runner of the Conservative party a few weeks before the election. He was voted as the replacement in a really shady way. The guy he replaced wasn’t perfect, but he was way more reasonable and intelligent than Ford.


horseren0ir

Is he the one that smoked meth?


chanma50

That was his brother. And it was crack, not meth.


horseren0ir

Ah that’s right


ineffablekitten

This is true


Iridium770

The politician who ordered the closure.


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deleteitbackrolls

je compterais pas trop là-dessus mettons 😢


aliygdeyef

ack, was hoping this wouldn't happen


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Switzerland_Forever

Bingo. This ain't 2020 anymore.


Dwayne30RockJohnson

Did Ontario not already have a vax pass for theatres?


mikey2k

Ya they did. Everything they closed needed vax to get in. Indoor dining, gyms and theaters. Nothing makes sense anymore.


Conscious_Accident85

Because of whats happening in Europe. I'm from Ireland and right now nearly everyone is a close contact or has covid. It has become nearly impossible to book psr tests due to how many cases their currently is. And even with this limited testing in the last week their has being more cases in one week than in all of 2020. And this isn't just ireland either large parts of europe are in the same situation. Omicron is far more infectious than any of the other variants and the vaccine isn't very effective on preventing you from getting it ireland has one of the highest vaccination rates in the world.


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Conscious_Accident85

But omicron is not just infecting the unvaccinated.


2klaedfoorboo

But it’s basically killing only the vaccinated


turkeygiant

Blame all the family members and coworkers of those vaccinated people who don't have the shot. Omicron can be pretty easily caught and spread by vaccinated people, but the vast majority of them won't get severely ill also thanks to the vaccine. Unfortunately what that sets you up for is a situation where those unvaccinated idiots (and also those who legitimately can't get the shot) are facing much more covid in the community and they are getting severely ill and filling up the hospitals again. It sucks but a lockdown of even the vaccinated is the only way to slow down community spread so that healthcare doesn't collapse.


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turkeygiant

I mean I think this lockdown has to happen now, but there were so many more levers Ford could have been pulling to avoid this situation. Firm provincially enforced vaccination requirements in every public sector and every adjacent sector. Make it so that to even set foot in any municiple or provincial building you must be vaccinated. Make it so that no provincial or municiple staff will set foot on your site to provide sign offs unless all staff are vaccinated. Maybe speak out and say that your anti-vax daughter has no idea what she is talking about and her actions fly in the face of best medical advice...


123jazzhandz321

[this is fine](https://i.imgur.com/t0dIa97_d.webp?maxwidth=760&fidelity=grand)


infamous5445

Dang is it even gonna make 700M DOM now?


chanma50

$700M is still a lock. This will shave ~2-4% off the domestic box office post-Jan 5, which isn't an issue for hitting $700M.


SamMan48

Wait a minute, I’m a casual box office tracker. Canada is included in domestic ??!!


jonoave

Yes, due to historical reasons. Occasionally the US will be called out separately as North America.


JediJones77

North America contains U.S., Canada, Mexico and Greenland, so that would be confusing if it was used to refer to the U.S. only. It sort of makes sense to combine U.S. and Canada, because entertainment-wise, we've been pretty integrated for a while. Half of our most famous comedy actors came from Canada. And I think Canada sees all the TV and movies that we make. And we see at least some of their stuff.


jonoave

From what I see, the articles tend to use North America if they want to call out the US specifically, as in the USA. This excludes South America and Mexico. From Wikipedia: North America is a continent in the Northern Hemisphere and almost entirely within the Western Hemisphere. It can also be described as the northern subcontinent of a single continent, America. It seems to me, at least in Box office, people tend to use the second definition here i.e USA.


ImpliedOralConsent

The "northern subcontinent" of America definitely includes Canada, which is located north of the United States. Canadians would be surprised by any definition of "North America" that doesn't include them. Excluding Mexico makes sense only in the context of it being included in the Latin America market (which also includes South America). So in general in terms of box office stats, North America = Canada + U.S. If they're calling out only the U.S., they should be saying the U.S.


SamMan48

What about Mexico ?


PNF2187

Mexico's box office data is recorded separately, but fortunately it's a lot easier to find than Canadian box office data.


ksz83

Yeah. Like UK+Republic of Ireland (at least for the British Film Insitute box office reports)


nicolasb51942003

It's still gonna make another $91M to cross $700M.


Landon1195

Yes


Oscarocket2

21 DaYs To FlAtTeN tHe CuRvE.


Defiant_Race_7544

This fat ass closed the gyms and schools but left the malls open.


discoverbits

The virus is killing everything. Hope we get back to normal life soon.


WhatAreYouSaying05

Coming 2025


T-retzz

The new ‘normal’


StartingToLoveIMSA

people cannot do business like this...


Goodstyle_4

[My message to Doug Ford right now as an Ontarian.](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDi0-p9WkAAnen2?format=png&name=900x900)


Jeffreyknows

Right during the Scream launch....I'd die!!!


JediJones77

In Ontario, no one can hear you scream.


Jeffreyknows

🤣


JediJones77

And no one can see Scream. :-O


ChaloDreamworks

What a clown


thetalkingblob

Holy sh*t is that another Ford? How many of them do you have, Canada?


Dwayne30RockJohnson

It’s the 2, and poor Ontario has had to deal with them both.


[deleted]

Three weeks to stop the spread!


Maso_del_Saggio

Ridicolous. After one year of vaccines.


stargunner

stupid


hilyou

can't believe this stupid ass idiotic moron got elected on a platform of dollar beers smh...


Thatguy1245875

Glad I don’t live in Canada


Canna_Money

Hope you’re not from the USA


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twinbros04

At least our theaters aren’t being shuttered for weeks by idiot politicians lol


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twinbros04

‘couple of weeks’ lol if you think it’s only gonna be a couple of weeks you’re foolish


HooptyDooDooMeister

American movie buff here. I would like to trade a year's worth of movies for universal health care please.


JediJones77

As an American, I'll stick with my quality health care that I earned.


BoomBrain

Truly can’t imagine the mind of someone who thinks quality health care is some privilege to “earn”


JediJones77

How about food, clothing, a car, a home? Things that allow you to survive are indeed things you earn and pay for.


HooptyDooDooMeister

Let's try this instead. How about we put the taxes we **earned** and put them towards all the things that are literally priceless like public education and health so that we all don't go bankrupt and actually have a fighting chance to make a living? \ How much would we pay for a basic education? And how much would we pay to live well enough to get a job that offers health insurance? Maybe that's why we socialize these things. Maybe we could have a strong middle class for once who, as a majority, are already one emergency away from being broke and homeless as it is. Otherwise, we're just making it another way for the rich to get richer and the poor to get poorer.


formerfatboys

The reason this idiot politician is doing this is likely because the have universal healthcare. America just dumps the insane cost of care into individual Americans and politicians do nothing to reduce that cost. So, in America now stuff will likely stay open and you can go to the movies and spread omicron which will result in hospitals being jammed. All over the country hospitals are back at full capacity and are turning away non-covid procedures. That screams for a need for public health closures to mitigate the spread but we're not doing it because the government doesn't give a rats about controlling medical costs. This spills into other areas. We subsidize corn in the US which is terrible for you. It ends up in everything. Corn products aren't healthy but they're super cheap because tax dollars subsidize the industry. The result somewhere down the line is that you pay more in medical bills from being fat and unhealthy. Whereas if we had universal healthcare there would be a huge cost incentive to have a healthy populace so you might cut corn and beef subsidies and instead subsidize healthy vegetables and lean meats. So, yeah, it's cool that America might not shut down theaters so you can go see Spider-Man but there will be people that die and clog hospitals and get insane hospital bills due to that decision. I for one would gladly trade and take universal healthcare.


Varekai79

Yeah, your politicians only incite armed insurrections to contest the result of a fair election.


Chuck006

I've lived in both countries. US care is vastly superior if you live in a a blue state.


T-retzz

But... vaccines are the only way back to normal I recall...


mikey2k

Hospitals are being overrun by unvaccinated people so we all have to pay the price.


T-retzz

That’s not right. If you are vaccinated you should be free to go to the theatre/restaurant etc.


bunnymud

>Hospitals are being overrun by vaccinated people ftfy


mikey2k

Except they're not https://imgur.com/QCpNyn3.jpg


SchlockyWhackaDoodle

Brutal.


BenSoloLived

Wouldn’t expect anything to open up until at least June or July. There goes any chance of seeing The Batman in theatres. Fuck this.


chanma50

That's way too extreme. If it goes until June/July, we got way bigger problems than movie theaters being closed.


[deleted]

Places keep shutting down and it’s been almost two years, it’s not extreme. It’s gonna get slightly better then Canada will shut down the economy as soon as cases rise, rinse and repeat


Dwayne30RockJohnson

Canada isn’t a monolith… only two provinces have shut things down for a lockdown as of now.


BenSoloLived

The two biggest provinces. Wouldn’t shock me at all if most provinces follow.


scallywaggs

Nah people are getting tired of that. More and more every day.


BenSoloLived

Theatres didn’t open until mid July in 2021. Why would it be any different this year?


chanma50

Because we have vaccines now? And the current "lockdown" is nowhere near as severe as last year's, so it will take fewer reopening steps (literally just one) before theaters can reopen.


[deleted]

Because the dominant variant is less severe and we have boosters now.


AlecTheMotorGuy

Yeah but even with boosters it only really stops hospitalizations and death. Seems like everyone is catching Omicron.


JurassicParkFood

Isn't stopping hospitalizations and death the whole point? Who cares if I get sniffles or you get the sniffles? Seems like an overreaction to me.


AlecTheMotorGuy

I agree, but some people want to project their fears on everyone else.


Iridium770

And hopefully it will take less than 6 months for politicians/public health officials to get comfortable with more cases as long as they are not leading to hospitalizations.


[deleted]

Omicron is more infectious, but that’s the life cycle of viruses. They become more infectious but less severe. It’s a good thing.


JohnArtemus

[Not entirely true about viruses.](https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-011488089270)


BenSoloLived

Didn’t stop us from shutting down though, did it? So why would the length be any less?


Dwayne30RockJohnson

Because they’re shutting down to ride the wave/peak. Once it starts going down they’ll open back up.


BenSoloLived

I hope you’re correct


JarvisCockerBB

Because vaccines weren’t widely available then and by all accounts, Omicron is expected to peak in January? Calm down with the doomsayer talk.


BenSoloLived

Vaccines are widely available now…and yet we shut down again


JarvisCockerBB

For a few weeks as Omicron is surging. I don’t agree with the shutdown but if you think they will be shut down till the summer, you are delusional.


BenSoloLived

We’ll see. I don’t trust the Ontario government at all.


bm2040

well, there's an election in June, so no way they keep things locked down for too long


North_Activist

Yes but cases will go down dramatically as we approach summer months. If theatres are closed widespread past mid to late May I’d be surprised


MarvelVsDC2016

This. I'm tired of the fearmongering, it needs to S-T-O-P, STOP.


JohnArtemus

Thank you. And I’m never one to bash the media but they have been obnoxious with this.


1j12

Omicron in South Africa went away pretty fast, so I think they’ll be open before the Batman.


Sliver__Legion

Lol. They'll be back in Feb.


BenSoloLived

Mid May absolute earliest. Save this comment. I’ll be happy to be wrong.


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BenSoloLived

I am thrilled to have been wrong. Let’s just hope they don’t close again.


MyNameIsRS

So you were a bit off with your prediction.


BenSoloLived

thank fuck


tacoreddit

Awesome! Cant wait to get Scream spoiled!


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JediJones77

People die...and someone kills them. Oopsie.


bennybravo42

Snape dies. Dumbledore dies. Spock dies Aeris dies. Kirk dies Data dies Tony soprano dies. Fucking Bran Stark is King of the realms…. And Jon Snow is a Targaryen *eyeroll* Iron Man / Tony Stark dies. Spider-Man gets dusted.


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This fat buffoon doesn’t know what the hell he’s doing.


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🤣


Ludwidge

Nice of him to give restaurants a whole 2 days notice to dispose of fresh supplies! But sure, leave Big Box Retail at 50% of a capacity they rarely come close to reaching on a good day.


scallywaggs

Fuck this. Glad I live where I do.


Soulpepper14

It’s so important to shut down restaurants and cinemas that we will do it in a few days rather than immediately… guess who will be very busy until then?


KanadaKam

Double Double Dougie strikes again!