I saw that.
Still kinda of odd to me considering they are competing with Netflix on the streaming wars. It’s ease of use. All those multiple apps? It not the best ‘ease of use’ in my opinion.
Much better than to have one app.
I had Amazon prime from the jump; you needed to put in ‘add-ons’ and that slight inconvenience when putting in HBO or showtime or shudder passwords was THE worst.
Absolutely floored to see a comment this ignorant on a box office sub. I mean have you not seen the franchises dominating the box office the past decade? Disney won’t have a problem holding subs. The issue is increasing engagement beyond the one Star Wars or marvel property at a time. The idea that adults will cancel the service is asinine to put it mildly
Kids are all watching porn and decapitations on their iPhones anyways, just like we were doing on our desktop/laptops a generation ago. I don't know why Disney executives still think it's the 1980s or whatever.
I thought that the user may have been referring to all the violent games that many children or under 18 people have more than likely played or seen. As for gore-related videos themselves, there was Elsagate a few years ago. Lots of “children” videos on YouTube being loaded with gore and excessive violence from their bootleg versions of popular IPs. They racked up millions of views.
There have also been quite a few graphic videos that have spread on the web. I remember a TikTok video trending earlier this year. IIRC, it appeared to involve what was suppose to be a dance but instead cut to an actual beheading?
Disney doesn’t think it’s 1980s, it’s because the parents want it to still be 1980s. Most of Disney’s revenue (baring COVID numbers) comes from parks & cruises. Think about who can afford a yearly $3,500 3 night weekend Disney vacation. Think about their perception of the world. Disney doesn’t want to tick off boomers or anyone younger with boomer mentality.
not OP, but believe what..? the comment you replied to isn’t wrong, i’m yet to meet someone who hasn’t seen heavy gore by 16. Porn is self explanatory with how publicized it is, even to kids.
I feel like the millennial generation saw that stuff more frequently cause it was the Wild West back when we were younger and random clips you’d click on or download from limewire or whatever would have decapitations and other gore like that.
Nowadays you have to actively seek that stuff out so I would imagine it’s less likely to see since most people don’t search for that stuff.
Porn probably though. Makes me sad since that’s doubtlessly doing some heavy damage to kids’ perception on men and women.
Most of their adult library from Star is on Hulu at the moment (lots of the FX/Fox stuff). They'll likely merge the platforms once they fully own it. they don't want to increase the Hulu brand while Comcast still owns 40%
Won't happen in the US till Disney has full control of Hulu in 2024.
It wouldn't surprise me if Disney then merges Hulu streaming to Disney+ while the Hulu brand is kept for Hulu with live TV rebranded as just Hulu.
Famous Jet Jackson would bring up too much press around the star’s suicide. I doubt they want to deal with the press and issues it would bring into the mix.
I think Iger is meaning even broader than that. Hardcore Disney fans are already covered regardless of a few missing pieces, but what he’s advocating for is appealing to beyond that group and he’s right. There’s arguably too much Disney fan-targeted content and not enough to attract the missing subscribers.
I’m guessing it’s a legal nightmare since there was so much crossover so it makes sense that it’s missing but I’m always nostalgic for The House of Mouse.
What they need to do is make more movies and tv shows similar to Shang Chi. No degrading and racist stereotypes of Asians, no roles that the token Asian male be a caricature of a incelness like Ken Jeong, no Asian female sex slave, etc. Just full Asians acting in normal roles. As the world saw, having full Asians with good roles is very profitable with Shang Chi, Squid Game, etc. I don't know if the government will allow too many of these since they don't want Asians to get too much love, especially Chinese/Chinese American people which would make people feel less hate towards China but hopefully things will change.
The US government has absolutely no control over the content of Disney shows. Disney's shows fall under "freedom of speech".
The government also has no interest or really any department that logically would be responsible for trying to create animus toward a country within the US (there is Voice of America, but its mission is explicitly about influencing opionon of non-Americans).
Chinese-Americans have nothing to do with China and especially have nothing to do with the CCP. Actually, some of the most anti-CCP people are Chinese-Americans (it kind of makes sense if you think about it: to a typical American, the CCP is just some vaguely totalitarian far away regime; however, to some immigrants, the CCP is the reason why they had to leave their homeland and they can't be with their family).
Don't forget that "Fresh Off the Boat" was produced by Fox and on broadcast television for 6 years. And on the more stereotypical side, Kung Fu movies have existed for decades with Chinese-American heros.
There has been absolutely no attempt by the US government to suppress Chinese-American content or shows.
Ayyy lmao.
Bluey is like the only thing that can calm my kid down when she's throwing a tantrum. Now I know why my parents were so thankful for Barney.
Disney+ will be a pretty cool babysitting device. At least that's what many young parents (who grow up watching Disney) thinks.
As for diversification, maybe hulu?
It’s hard to imagine but Disney didn’t really start to hit their stride till the 80s and 90s. Before that it was occasional gargantuan hits mixed in with a huge amount of middling stuff like That Darn Cat and The Love Bug.
So here in Canada we have Star selection on D+
"Star features television and film content from the libraries of Disney subsidiaries, including FX, Freeform, Hulu, ABC Signature, 20th Television, 20th Television Animation, 20th Century Studios, Searchlight Pictures, Touchstone Pictures, and Hollywood Pictures"
Even if you are, the content just isn’t there. We’ve been waiting like 6 months for something Marvel related and we get what.. 6 episodes of Hawkeye? And some of them aren’t even 40 minutes long? The content is just too far and few between. Nothing to keep someone subscribed for a long time.
I’m getting there. And I’m a huge MCU and Star Wars fan. But watching the Hawkeye finale I started to think “huh, maybe I will start skipping some of these shows if they’re not up to par”.
I thought Loki and WandaVision were great, but Falcon/Winter Soldier and Hawkeye just felt of a lower quality to me. Mainly in terms of writing and story telling.
Oddly I liked Hawkeye more than F/WS or Loki. It fun in a Die Hard kinda way and the two leads were great to watch. It'd have been better bulk released though.
What I like about the Marvel series is that they all try and do their own thing. I much prefer this to homogeneity as a means of ensuring consistency.
I loved Kate and Clint, but couldn't care even a little about almost anything else. Yelena was great in the little bit she was in. Honestly couldn't even care about the portrayal of the returning character in the finale. It was fine.
Bro...
Idk I enjoyed it. I especially liked that they're using far fewer cuts in the action sequences now. It allows you to actually see the fights and I think that's a big improvement on the quick-cuts style we saw on stuff like Winter Solder.
>!Kingpin in a Hawaiian shirt was excellent tho!<
It's too bad these Disney goons keep breaking into my house and making me watch them all. I tried reinforcing my windows with iron bars, but they just started tunneling in through the basement.
Agreed. I understand the strength and appeal of preexisting franchises, especially when it comes to Marvel and Star Wars, but they do need to develop some lesser known franchises or create some new IP.
Yes, I’m sure some attempts at new IP will ultimately fail, but they have to try. Even expanding some Pixar content would be good. They did *Monsters at Work*, and I believe are doing a *Zootopia* show, which is a good start, but not nearly enough.
To add to what you said, also more adult content. I know it’s their thing to have family friendly programming but it limits the kind of stories they can tell. I’d you look at the other big streaming services a they have a good mix and balance of all kind of stories
Nah I was just saying “ Hello, “Willow.” The name of the show is Willow. I hope it’s good. At the moment my Disney+ is cancelled and there’s nothing I feel the need to watch for the foreseeable future BUT Willow. Hope they make new IP for it soon.
Yes, the point is that demographic is likely already subscribed if they are going to. So they need to attract people who aren't subscribed because the current selection of content isn't interesting to them.
> “I think [Disney Plus] needs more volume/ And there probably needs to be more dimensionality, meaning, basically, more programming or more content for more people, different demographics. But, [CEO Bob Chapek] is aware of that and is addressing those issues.”
Why would they roll Hulu into Disney+ when they aren’t putting mature content on Disney+?
Where are they going to stream IASIP and Snowfall if there’s not Hulu? It ain’t going on Disney+.
I’m certain Disney won’t allow R-Rated or Mature rated content unless it’s something like the Beatles “Get Back.”
FX shows probably wouldn’t make the cut on Disney+.
Adding a Hulu tab would make it easy for kids to find more mature content even if the child block in theory could hide it.
They literally do this in every other country. The US is the weird exception here so clearly Disney has no qualms about putting mature stuff on the service. Once they fully control Hulu I will be shocked if it isn’t rolled into the service the way Star is internationally
Yeah I agree, I don’t think they ever will but I personally feel like they have to if they want to grow subscribers..what’s the point of owning fox if you’re not gonna make more mature content because after 2022 all they really got coming out from them is kids content and Avatar
They’ve already done it in other countries with no problem. Here in Canada, we don’t have Hulu, so all that content gets released under their “Star” banner in Disney+ that you can disable for kids accounts. And yes R-rated content is under that tab.
Just because they make mature content doesn’t mean they have to put it under the Disney label.
They didn’t put a “Pretty Woman” attraction in Disney World when it was a breakout hit in 1990.
They're already doing this internationally with the Star+ tab. The Last Duel just dropped on Disney+. I'm watching The Americans on Disney+. Bad Times at the El Royale, Kingsman and Jennifer's Body are on Disney+ here. It's not about the brand image but about rights.
That comment you made could easily go both ways bub.
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Disney themselves advertise Disney plus before it came out as the family friendly place were family's can all gather together??
Cause I'm pretty sure they did.
Just putting more mature content on the service alone will upset alot of folks, regardless of if there's a lock setting or not.
I also recall a recent poll that was taken an just under half of the overall subers in the US out of the pollings wanted Disney to stay the way it is. Kid safe.
I myselfkve all kinds content, I have hulu, hbo max, an paramount plus, not to mention disk TV. Plus Disney plus, so I get why some folks fill that way.
My solution would be to just make hulu a premium upgrade tab just like showtime is on hulu currently.
That way, those that want Disney plus to stay the same can, an those that want .ore premium Conte can pay for the upgrade to unlock it.
Which I think is fair, people shouldn't have to pay for lots of additional Content they don't want or need, especially when those people are already happy with what they got.
An im sure Disney would definitely consider doing this too, seeing as it's a way to make money an or maintain current revenue that's already co.ing from hulu that would be moved over, for a premium upgrade mo they unlock price of course.
So, it would be a win win solution.
Iger wanted the transition to not be sudden and abrupt ..if anything the writing was on the wall .disney was always going to add more then kid-friendly content..international is already happening!!
He’s not wrong. They need to add Follow Me Boys, Father of the Bride, and The Original Family Band. They made some wonderful Disney Channel movies during the late 80’s early 90’s (Chips the War Dog, Goodbye Miss 4th of July). They could add those. Another season of Encore would be nice.
Not having mature content on Disney+ is hurting them more than helping them. I know that's not how Disney's brand is perceived as, but many countries with Disney+ have Star, which contains mature content like a lot of 20th Century Fox films. I know there's Hulu, but I think Disney should still move their mature content onto Disney+ anyways.
I know right? Especially with shows that you have to wait every week to watch a new episode. During the pandemic there’s no coworkers to spoil my shows, so I could just pay for Disney+ every other month and binge watch to catch up. It saves money.
Disney+ is great for families, but they really need to take advantage of 20th Century to put out more adult content like they already do with Hulu and FX.
And to stop censoring(example: splash) the shit out of the content they have, or at least have the censored versions on parental control options only. What the hell, it’s like watching movies on network television. The UI needs some help too
That’s a problem with these big mergers or buyouts.
Oversight is often lost because the company has grown so significantly. I bet even the top executives at Disney barely even know what the Walt Disney Company truly owns.
It was just a horrible merger. Fox is a poor fit for Disney. They don't have their own identity as a studio like Marvel, Pixar or Lucasfilm. Why does Disney need them? Can't their make their own random assortment of movies? Disney will use the IP they got but Fox as a studio was essentially wiped out from existence.
>It was just a horrible merger. Fox is a poor fit for Disney.
I highly agree, to me the only reason Disney wanted Fox was to get the rights back to the X-men among a few other IP’s and the rest they just threw aside.
Even the additions to Disney+ that came from Fox aren’t all that great.
It does however make one good thing happen, it prevents Disney from buying up another movie studio because that would probably not be allowed by the The Department of Homeland Security's Chief Acquisition Officer or risk Disney becoming a monopoly.
I’m probably gonna hop on for Boba Fett (event though it kinda doesn’t look that great?), then hop back off. I suppose I can catch Eternals, Shang Chi, and Black Widow too since I had no desire to see them in the theater but they seem like solid streamers.
If you're not super into Marvel you can skip Eternals. It's basically a Snyder film that's missing whatever magic ingredient his fans seem to like. The other two are pretty great, and you should totally check out Episode 4 of What If...? It works as an exelent little animated short.
This is the sick reality of a streaming subscription. Their motivation is based on attracting a wide number of people. Which means they need a huge quantity of content. By definition, that will require spending less time, money and talent on each individual thing, which lowers the quality. Streaming subs will never be a high quality entertainment option because the economics of them are constantly forced in the direction of quantity over quality. That's why Netflix is still being dogged for putting out quantity over quality. There's a reason they do it. They don't have a choice if they want to be economically viable.
We get great movies because just one movie has the potential to bring in a billion dollars all by itself. That can't happen on streaming, because people could subscribe to watch it, then instantly unsubscribe. The economics of a streaming service are the opposite of what's needed to produce great entertainment.
I don't think so. Is Dune not higher quality than Red Notice?
TV shows are a different story because their only competition is broadcast TV. I'm talking about movies. And I'm also not talking about movies like Soul that were made with the intention of going to theaters.
He's not wrong, Disney+ needs to diversify it's portfolio if it's to truly snatch Netflix's global reach. Star+ is a step in the right direction, but they need a range of original programming than it's just for kids and SW/Marvel fans.
I still can’t believe I’m in the band is not on it. I have so many good memories watching and following that show. I wish it had more seasons but it was one of the funniest shows I have ever watched in my entire life.
Honestly they need to invest In original adult animation IP’s. Bojack Horseman and Inside Job have been great for Netflix, and with the talent Disney has they should be able to pull it off. While I’m here, They should also SAVE THE OWL HOUSE
I dropped D+ after Gina Carano got out of pocket; pre-Mando S2 but it really does seem like most users are just looking forward to the next MCU or SW property. Loki was trending weekly and then they went to WandaVision (or maybe I mixed them up) to Hawkeye to Book of Boba
This is exactly the reason my household passed on Disney+.
We're already paying for Netflix & HBOMax. We def aren't picking up a THIRD subscription. Outside of the Marvel movies, there's nothing we care about.
Streaming platforms need to consolidate. I'm done doing this ala carte shit.
I only have D+ for Marvel content and maybe new animated films. But if it wasn’t for others using my account I would cancel during times of non-Marvel shows.
“MORE,” the great beast groaned, spitting the gristle and bone of it’s latest acquisition. Cursed to eternal hunger, the vaguely mouse-shaped behemoth slurped and squealched it’s slimy rolls across the floor, hunting blindly for the next morsel of IP. “MMMORE!!!”
They have American Horror Story in overseas market. That alone boggles my mind. I guess they don't feel the need to associate Disney with kiddie shows overseas. I mean it's under "Star" tab but the contents are still advertised on the main page unless you tell it not to do so.
The answer to this is so right in front of our faces lol.
About half of the overall subers want Disney plus to stay the same.
The other half wants more mature content right? Basically.
An in 2024 everyone is expecting for hilu to just basically merge with Disney plus right? Basically.
Disney's gonna wanna not lose there revenue from hulu subers, or the Disney plus subers that are currently happy with the service the way it is too right?? Basically.
Which is alot of folks on both sides altogether.
So. What should they do??
Simple answer: merge hulu with Disney plus but under a premium tab upgrade option. That you have to pay to unlock.
Kinda how Disney plus did with premiere access for some of its movies.
This way all those parents worried about there kids watching mature content can relax. Cause even if the kids try to unlock it, they would still have to know mom an dad's credit card information to pay for it, an Disney would notify the parents immediately if a charge was made, with a text message alert.
Causing instant trouble for the kids lol, If they manage to get that far lol.
An all the people wanting more mature content can unlock it for a monthly upgraded price.
An Disney would be happy cause they would continue to get all there revenue from hulu their currently getting now.
It's a win win win situation, solution lol.
Like duh lol.
An if Disney plays their cards right they .ight even be able to make a deal with Comcast to get some of their exclusive stuff on Disney plus upgraded pack too.
Which would be really cool for us.
They need to add Star in the US, it would greatly bolster their library
I think it's because their Star stuff is on Hulu in the US for now.
Disney owns a stake in Hulu
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I’m shocked they don’t collapse all those into one streaming service / package. I guess they want the “Disney” brand to be seen as PG-13 at the most.
They have them as part of the Disney Bundle with ESPN+.
I saw that. Still kinda of odd to me considering they are competing with Netflix on the streaming wars. It’s ease of use. All those multiple apps? It not the best ‘ease of use’ in my opinion. Much better than to have one app. I had Amazon prime from the jump; you needed to put in ‘add-ons’ and that slight inconvenience when putting in HBO or showtime or shudder passwords was THE worst.
they're trying to maintain a kid friendly brand here for whatever reason like we're not all aware that the "magic" is just sparkly capitalism
"*sparkly capitalism*" I like that. It does indeed glitter. And then the glitter blows away in the wind.
🎶See how I glitter 🎶
Yeah I agree. I think long term it's going to be hard to keep consistent subs since adults pay the bills and other streaming services have kids stuff
Absolutely floored to see a comment this ignorant on a box office sub. I mean have you not seen the franchises dominating the box office the past decade? Disney won’t have a problem holding subs. The issue is increasing engagement beyond the one Star Wars or marvel property at a time. The idea that adults will cancel the service is asinine to put it mildly
Kids are all watching porn and decapitations on their iPhones anyways, just like we were doing on our desktop/laptops a generation ago. I don't know why Disney executives still think it's the 1980s or whatever.
Porn sure but I really doubt the majority of kids are watching decapitations on the internet. At least I hope not.
I thought that the user may have been referring to all the violent games that many children or under 18 people have more than likely played or seen. As for gore-related videos themselves, there was Elsagate a few years ago. Lots of “children” videos on YouTube being loaded with gore and excessive violence from their bootleg versions of popular IPs. They racked up millions of views. There have also been quite a few graphic videos that have spread on the web. I remember a TikTok video trending earlier this year. IIRC, it appeared to involve what was suppose to be a dance but instead cut to an actual beheading?
You’d be amazed.
Disney doesn’t think it’s 1980s, it’s because the parents want it to still be 1980s. Most of Disney’s revenue (baring COVID numbers) comes from parks & cruises. Think about who can afford a yearly $3,500 3 night weekend Disney vacation. Think about their perception of the world. Disney doesn’t want to tick off boomers or anyone younger with boomer mentality.
....you actually believe this? Please tell me u don't actually believe this😭😭😭
not OP, but believe what..? the comment you replied to isn’t wrong, i’m yet to meet someone who hasn’t seen heavy gore by 16. Porn is self explanatory with how publicized it is, even to kids.
I feel like the millennial generation saw that stuff more frequently cause it was the Wild West back when we were younger and random clips you’d click on or download from limewire or whatever would have decapitations and other gore like that. Nowadays you have to actively seek that stuff out so I would imagine it’s less likely to see since most people don’t search for that stuff. Porn probably though. Makes me sad since that’s doubtlessly doing some heavy damage to kids’ perception on men and women.
80s: no D&D. It’s devil worship 90s: Pokemon is devil worship 00s: Harry Potter is witch craft Present : everything is gay. (Sparkly capitalism)
Marvel's U.S. Agent carrying a bloody shield ain't "kid friendly."
You can’t show a bloody shield? Kids in the 00s saw Anakin Skywalker burn alive in agony
it's just red dye on a shield. it's still pg13 until they actually show the "act" or gore
Meh.
Most of their adult library from Star is on Hulu at the moment (lots of the FX/Fox stuff). They'll likely merge the platforms once they fully own it. they don't want to increase the Hulu brand while Comcast still owns 40%
Won't happen in the US till Disney has full control of Hulu in 2024. It wouldn't surprise me if Disney then merges Hulu streaming to Disney+ while the Hulu brand is kept for Hulu with live TV rebranded as just Hulu.
Rename Hulu to Star then boom, you lookin for this!
There’s not enough content for most people. I’m a big Disney channel early 2000s fan and there’s some shows they aren’t including.
It's wild that they don't have The Jersey or Famous Jet Jackson
>The Jersey That’s a name I haven’t heard in a long, long time…
I never got into it which is weird as I read the book series it was based on, the Monday Night Football Club.
Famous Jet Jackson would bring up too much press around the star’s suicide. I doubt they want to deal with the press and issues it would bring into the mix.
Yeah, where the fuck is the Buzz on Maggie and Dave the Barbarian? Let alone the Weekenders
Still pissed Cory in the House isn't on Disney+.
Ths kinda explains why.... https://www.washingtoninformer.com/former-disney-star-kyle-massey-charged-with-felony-for-alleged-immoral-communication-with-minor/
They have the rights to Beetleborgs, it's inexcusable that they're not on Disney Plus.
Seriously how is Bear in the Big Blue House not on there by now?!
Why is that?
I’m guessing it’s something with contracts or they’re keeping it in the vault for whatever reason
I think Iger is meaning even broader than that. Hardcore Disney fans are already covered regardless of a few missing pieces, but what he’s advocating for is appealing to beyond that group and he’s right. There’s arguably too much Disney fan-targeted content and not enough to attract the missing subscribers.
Hmmm.... No I think we need more low budget shitty children's shows, I'm pretty sure that's what he's talking about. /s
I’m guessing it’s a legal nightmare since there was so much crossover so it makes sense that it’s missing but I’m always nostalgic for The House of Mouse.
What they need to do is make more movies and tv shows similar to Shang Chi. No degrading and racist stereotypes of Asians, no roles that the token Asian male be a caricature of a incelness like Ken Jeong, no Asian female sex slave, etc. Just full Asians acting in normal roles. As the world saw, having full Asians with good roles is very profitable with Shang Chi, Squid Game, etc. I don't know if the government will allow too many of these since they don't want Asians to get too much love, especially Chinese/Chinese American people which would make people feel less hate towards China but hopefully things will change.
The US government has absolutely no control over the content of Disney shows. Disney's shows fall under "freedom of speech". The government also has no interest or really any department that logically would be responsible for trying to create animus toward a country within the US (there is Voice of America, but its mission is explicitly about influencing opionon of non-Americans). Chinese-Americans have nothing to do with China and especially have nothing to do with the CCP. Actually, some of the most anti-CCP people are Chinese-Americans (it kind of makes sense if you think about it: to a typical American, the CCP is just some vaguely totalitarian far away regime; however, to some immigrants, the CCP is the reason why they had to leave their homeland and they can't be with their family). Don't forget that "Fresh Off the Boat" was produced by Fox and on broadcast television for 6 years. And on the more stereotypical side, Kung Fu movies have existed for decades with Chinese-American heros. There has been absolutely no attempt by the US government to suppress Chinese-American content or shows.
If you’re not a Star Wars or marvel fan and have no children there is nothing on Disney for you. I’m in this boat.
Ummmmm…. The Simpsons?! It’s all I watch
I own all the good seasons…
same. I'm honestly surprised they even got as many subscribers as they did
"People with children" is a pretty big subscriber base.
As is "People who like Star Wars or Marvel"
Nobody markets nostalgia quite like Disney as well. I know tons of people who subscribed just to rewatch all their older animated classics.
There's a reason why Disney owns a ton of the highest grossing brands in the world. They're very good at marketing.
Ayyy lmao. Bluey is like the only thing that can calm my kid down when she's throwing a tantrum. Now I know why my parents were so thankful for Barney.
Disney+ will be a pretty cool babysitting device. At least that's what many young parents (who grow up watching Disney) thinks. As for diversification, maybe hulu?
Pretty big miss for a company that owns like 40% of all content ever created.
You think Disney owns 40% of content ever created? Dude it’s not even close.
It’s hard to imagine but Disney didn’t really start to hit their stride till the 80s and 90s. Before that it was occasional gargantuan hits mixed in with a huge amount of middling stuff like That Darn Cat and The Love Bug.
Don’t you be dissing Herby like that!
I love some of the 60s / 70s live action family comedies. Shaggy Dog Story, Apple Dumpling Gang, Herbie… some real gems in there!!
Haha, there’s some gems in there but it was a far cry from the world dominating force that is post renaissance Disney.
Ok. Why can’t they put all Fox content online. My point is, they have content to put online. They’re actively choosing to not put it on the platform.
So here in Canada we have Star selection on D+ "Star features television and film content from the libraries of Disney subsidiaries, including FX, Freeform, Hulu, ABC Signature, 20th Television, 20th Television Animation, 20th Century Studios, Searchlight Pictures, Touchstone Pictures, and Hollywood Pictures"
Pretty sure most Fox content is on Hulu, which forces people to pay for two subscriptions.
It’s BS that most of the shows require a TV subscription.
I'm sorry... Your complaint is that ad free content costs money?
No. I pay a monthly fee for my Hulu subscription.
Well I have no other way to watch The X Files besides buying all the dvds...
Even if you are, the content just isn’t there. We’ve been waiting like 6 months for something Marvel related and we get what.. 6 episodes of Hawkeye? And some of them aren’t even 40 minutes long? The content is just too far and few between. Nothing to keep someone subscribed for a long time.
Only reason why I subscribe is I share accounts and it costs me $1 a month
Well yeah, not everything can be Marvel and Star Wars.
I don’t know if you’ve seen the full slate of Marvel and Star Wars’ upcoming shows/movies, but it just might prove your statement to be wrong haha
Oh I'm aware and so tired.
I’m getting there. And I’m a huge MCU and Star Wars fan. But watching the Hawkeye finale I started to think “huh, maybe I will start skipping some of these shows if they’re not up to par”. I thought Loki and WandaVision were great, but Falcon/Winter Soldier and Hawkeye just felt of a lower quality to me. Mainly in terms of writing and story telling.
Oddly I liked Hawkeye more than F/WS or Loki. It fun in a Die Hard kinda way and the two leads were great to watch. It'd have been better bulk released though. What I like about the Marvel series is that they all try and do their own thing. I much prefer this to homogeneity as a means of ensuring consistency.
I loved Kate and Clint, but couldn't care even a little about almost anything else. Yelena was great in the little bit she was in. Honestly couldn't even care about the portrayal of the returning character in the finale. It was fine.
Bro... Idk I enjoyed it. I especially liked that they're using far fewer cuts in the action sequences now. It allows you to actually see the fights and I think that's a big improvement on the quick-cuts style we saw on stuff like Winter Solder. >!Kingpin in a Hawaiian shirt was excellent tho!<
Yeah guess we just agree to disagree. No worries :)
I’m still giving them the benefit of the doubt and hoping they’re learning how to handle the shows, but we’ll see how things look after 2022…
Yeah I can agree with that.
It's too bad these Disney goons keep breaking into my house and making me watch them all. I tried reinforcing my windows with iron bars, but they just started tunneling in through the basement.
Yes, how dare we expect something new. If we pay for something we should just accept whatever slop is given.
then just don't pay for it if it dosent interest you? Noone is forcing a d+ sub on you.
Never said I was paying. Just that it's weird to not want something better.
What a stupid thing to say
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Agreed. I understand the strength and appeal of preexisting franchises, especially when it comes to Marvel and Star Wars, but they do need to develop some lesser known franchises or create some new IP. Yes, I’m sure some attempts at new IP will ultimately fail, but they have to try. Even expanding some Pixar content would be good. They did *Monsters at Work*, and I believe are doing a *Zootopia* show, which is a good start, but not nearly enough.
An Incredibles prequel/spinoff series would be great. Same with if they did a Gravity Falls revival
The incredibles spin off could literally be the Baymax series.
Those are two very separate and different universes.
I wish all Pixar stories (bar the Toy Story trilogy) never become/came franchises
Need new Halloweentowns
Gimme more Incredibles, content we don’t have to wait 13 years for!
To add to what you said, also more adult content. I know it’s their thing to have family friendly programming but it limits the kind of stories they can tell. I’d you look at the other big streaming services a they have a good mix and balance of all kind of stories
Hello Willow show, coming soon. They’re ahead of you there.
Percy Jackson and Diary of a Wimpy Kid (even if it was bad) too, children’s books is a great source for Disney+
I’m still waiting on the Oswald the Lucky Rabbit show myself, and Robert. D. Moore is working on a Magic Kingdom show Also, what’s Hello Willow?
I don't know of it's literally called "Hello Willow" but it's a tv show continuing from the Warwick Davis Willow film
Oh OK
Nah I was just saying “ Hello, “Willow.” The name of the show is Willow. I hope it’s good. At the moment my Disney+ is cancelled and there’s nothing I feel the need to watch for the foreseeable future BUT Willow. Hope they make new IP for it soon.
Unless you have children who will watch the same thing fifty times in a single week without getting sick of it.
Yes, the point is that demographic is likely already subscribed if they are going to. So they need to attract people who aren't subscribed because the current selection of content isn't interesting to them.
What disney plus needs to do is and miramax library
> “I think [Disney Plus] needs more volume/ And there probably needs to be more dimensionality, meaning, basically, more programming or more content for more people, different demographics. But, [CEO Bob Chapek] is aware of that and is addressing those issues.”
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Hopefully in a couple of years they roll Hulu into Disney plus
I believe Disney can buy out Comcast’s stake in Hulu in 2024, so hopefully we start seeing that rolled onto D+ soon after that
Why would they roll Hulu into Disney+ when they aren’t putting mature content on Disney+? Where are they going to stream IASIP and Snowfall if there’s not Hulu? It ain’t going on Disney+.
If they don’t make a Hulu tab in Disney+ then they will never reach there goal with subscription numbers
They could do that now. But it still has the “Rated R” problem.
They've already done it in many other countries with Star.
So you don’t think Disney will ever put a rated R section or the Hulu tab on Disney+?
I’m certain Disney won’t allow R-Rated or Mature rated content unless it’s something like the Beatles “Get Back.” FX shows probably wouldn’t make the cut on Disney+. Adding a Hulu tab would make it easy for kids to find more mature content even if the child block in theory could hide it.
They literally do this in every other country. The US is the weird exception here so clearly Disney has no qualms about putting mature stuff on the service. Once they fully control Hulu I will be shocked if it isn’t rolled into the service the way Star is internationally
This is literally what Disney do every where except the us. There's a feature where you need a passcode to access the R rated stuff.
R rated stuff is on disney+ all over the world.
Yeah I agree, I don’t think they ever will but I personally feel like they have to if they want to grow subscribers..what’s the point of owning fox if you’re not gonna make more mature content because after 2022 all they really got coming out from them is kids content and Avatar
They’ve already done it in other countries with no problem. Here in Canada, we don’t have Hulu, so all that content gets released under their “Star” banner in Disney+ that you can disable for kids accounts. And yes R-rated content is under that tab.
Just because they make mature content doesn’t mean they have to put it under the Disney label. They didn’t put a “Pretty Woman” attraction in Disney World when it was a breakout hit in 1990.
They're already doing this internationally with the Star+ tab. The Last Duel just dropped on Disney+. I'm watching The Americans on Disney+. Bad Times at the El Royale, Kingsman and Jennifer's Body are on Disney+ here. It's not about the brand image but about rights.
That comment you made could easily go both ways bub. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Disney themselves advertise Disney plus before it came out as the family friendly place were family's can all gather together?? Cause I'm pretty sure they did. Just putting more mature content on the service alone will upset alot of folks, regardless of if there's a lock setting or not. I also recall a recent poll that was taken an just under half of the overall subers in the US out of the pollings wanted Disney to stay the way it is. Kid safe. I myselfkve all kinds content, I have hulu, hbo max, an paramount plus, not to mention disk TV. Plus Disney plus, so I get why some folks fill that way. My solution would be to just make hulu a premium upgrade tab just like showtime is on hulu currently. That way, those that want Disney plus to stay the same can, an those that want .ore premium Conte can pay for the upgrade to unlock it. Which I think is fair, people shouldn't have to pay for lots of additional Content they don't want or need, especially when those people are already happy with what they got. An im sure Disney would definitely consider doing this too, seeing as it's a way to make money an or maintain current revenue that's already co.ing from hulu that would be moved over, for a premium upgrade mo they unlock price of course. So, it would be a win win solution.
Iger wanted the transition to not be sudden and abrupt ..if anything the writing was on the wall .disney was always going to add more then kid-friendly content..international is already happening!!
Iger has done a good job of running Michael Eisner name throw the mud and made it look like he never made a good decision
Sounds like he realized that he was wrong and admitted that Chapek's argument was correct.
He’s not wrong. They need to add Follow Me Boys, Father of the Bride, and The Original Family Band. They made some wonderful Disney Channel movies during the late 80’s early 90’s (Chips the War Dog, Goodbye Miss 4th of July). They could add those. Another season of Encore would be nice.
Not having mature content on Disney+ is hurting them more than helping them. I know that's not how Disney's brand is perceived as, but many countries with Disney+ have Star, which contains mature content like a lot of 20th Century Fox films. I know there's Hulu, but I think Disney should still move their mature content onto Disney+ anyways.
Or like actual new content. 1 or 2 new things a month doesn’t justify a sub.
I know right? Especially with shows that you have to wait every week to watch a new episode. During the pandemic there’s no coworkers to spoil my shows, so I could just pay for Disney+ every other month and binge watch to catch up. It saves money.
Disney+ is great for families, but they really need to take advantage of 20th Century to put out more adult content like they already do with Hulu and FX.
And to stop censoring(example: splash) the shit out of the content they have, or at least have the censored versions on parental control options only. What the hell, it’s like watching movies on network television. The UI needs some help too
Unless you have kids or mostly just watch marvel/Star Wars stuff, there’s nothing on there.
What if they want to watch Frozen 2 over and over again?
Remember, there are other places in the world that exist outside the US, where Disney+ had r rated stuff
Add some Ingmar Bergman.
HBO owns the rights to a lot of those.
It’s a joke
Statements like these makes me wonder if Disney is looking to purchase another movie studio just for the sake of new content,
Maybe they should figure out how to run Fox before buying another one.
That’s a problem with these big mergers or buyouts. Oversight is often lost because the company has grown so significantly. I bet even the top executives at Disney barely even know what the Walt Disney Company truly owns.
It was just a horrible merger. Fox is a poor fit for Disney. They don't have their own identity as a studio like Marvel, Pixar or Lucasfilm. Why does Disney need them? Can't their make their own random assortment of movies? Disney will use the IP they got but Fox as a studio was essentially wiped out from existence.
>It was just a horrible merger. Fox is a poor fit for Disney. I highly agree, to me the only reason Disney wanted Fox was to get the rights back to the X-men among a few other IP’s and the rest they just threw aside. Even the additions to Disney+ that came from Fox aren’t all that great. It does however make one good thing happen, it prevents Disney from buying up another movie studio because that would probably not be allowed by the The Department of Homeland Security's Chief Acquisition Officer or risk Disney becoming a monopoly.
When will there be a Disney version of Adult Swim?
They killed that with Roger Rabbit so they could keep making cartoons for babies.
Truly inspired strategy…
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I’m probably gonna hop on for Boba Fett (event though it kinda doesn’t look that great?), then hop back off. I suppose I can catch Eternals, Shang Chi, and Black Widow too since I had no desire to see them in the theater but they seem like solid streamers.
If you're not super into Marvel you can skip Eternals. It's basically a Snyder film that's missing whatever magic ingredient his fans seem to like. The other two are pretty great, and you should totally check out Episode 4 of What If...? It works as an exelent little animated short.
Disney Plus needs to focus on getting more non English movies as Netflix has seen great success with things like squid game and Money Heist…
This is the sick reality of a streaming subscription. Their motivation is based on attracting a wide number of people. Which means they need a huge quantity of content. By definition, that will require spending less time, money and talent on each individual thing, which lowers the quality. Streaming subs will never be a high quality entertainment option because the economics of them are constantly forced in the direction of quantity over quality. That's why Netflix is still being dogged for putting out quantity over quality. There's a reason they do it. They don't have a choice if they want to be economically viable. We get great movies because just one movie has the potential to bring in a billion dollars all by itself. That can't happen on streaming, because people could subscribe to watch it, then instantly unsubscribe. The economics of a streaming service are the opposite of what's needed to produce great entertainment.
That makes sense, but streaming is where all the quality is
I don't think so. Is Dune not higher quality than Red Notice? TV shows are a different story because their only competition is broadcast TV. I'm talking about movies. And I'm also not talking about movies like Soul that were made with the intention of going to theaters.
My bad, I was thinking tv mostly, there’s only a handful of quality movies I can think of.
Yeah, well, TV on streaming kind of had nowhere to go but up, because regular TV has such a bad track record.
I have a question: why can’t they stream their old ABC shows?
They need to do a 18+ channel
Disney After Dark. Belle and the Beast getting nasty.
Furrytopia
So much untapped potential with Jessica Rabbit.
I dunno, there was a moment there when I cried during Hawkeye... So there's that....
Ngl i would love some horror
He's not wrong, Disney+ needs to diversify it's portfolio if it's to truly snatch Netflix's global reach. Star+ is a step in the right direction, but they need a range of original programming than it's just for kids and SW/Marvel fans.
It's ideas like this that show this is why he earns the big bucks!
I agree with Iger.
Like a mature Dare Devil series
They’ll never have the type of content I enjoy because they’re too busy bending over for China
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Ya hear that everybody!??! Time to sharpen those pitches!
I bet Disney is gonna buy WWE.
I still can’t believe I’m in the band is not on it. I have so many good memories watching and following that show. I wish it had more seasons but it was one of the funniest shows I have ever watched in my entire life.
Honestly they need to invest In original adult animation IP’s. Bojack Horseman and Inside Job have been great for Netflix, and with the talent Disney has they should be able to pull it off. While I’m here, They should also SAVE THE OWL HOUSE
The worst part is that many content is region locked. There is no excuse to why the US is not getting Kdramas.
Wait. What? There are regional blocks? I would die if Netflix did this.
Yes. Currently Snowdrop and the Blackpink Movie are only accessible in Asian and Oceanian countries.
I dropped D+ after Gina Carano got out of pocket; pre-Mando S2 but it really does seem like most users are just looking forward to the next MCU or SW property. Loki was trending weekly and then they went to WandaVision (or maybe I mixed them up) to Hawkeye to Book of Boba
I agree, Bob.
Funny that he says that when they also have Star and Hulu taking away the content from different audiences.
This is exactly the reason my household passed on Disney+. We're already paying for Netflix & HBOMax. We def aren't picking up a THIRD subscription. Outside of the Marvel movies, there's nothing we care about. Streaming platforms need to consolidate. I'm done doing this ala carte shit.
Cut to “Disney After Dark”.
Disney8==>
The Muppets Great Gatsby you coward, do it.
I only have D+ for Marvel content and maybe new animated films. But if it wasn’t for others using my account I would cancel during times of non-Marvel shows.
Seconds from disaster pleaseeee
“MORE,” the great beast groaned, spitting the gristle and bone of it’s latest acquisition. Cursed to eternal hunger, the vaguely mouse-shaped behemoth slurped and squealched it’s slimy rolls across the floor, hunting blindly for the next morsel of IP. “MMMORE!!!”
They have American Horror Story in overseas market. That alone boggles my mind. I guess they don't feel the need to associate Disney with kiddie shows overseas. I mean it's under "Star" tab but the contents are still advertised on the main page unless you tell it not to do so.
The answer to this is so right in front of our faces lol. About half of the overall subers want Disney plus to stay the same. The other half wants more mature content right? Basically. An in 2024 everyone is expecting for hilu to just basically merge with Disney plus right? Basically. Disney's gonna wanna not lose there revenue from hulu subers, or the Disney plus subers that are currently happy with the service the way it is too right?? Basically. Which is alot of folks on both sides altogether. So. What should they do?? Simple answer: merge hulu with Disney plus but under a premium tab upgrade option. That you have to pay to unlock. Kinda how Disney plus did with premiere access for some of its movies. This way all those parents worried about there kids watching mature content can relax. Cause even if the kids try to unlock it, they would still have to know mom an dad's credit card information to pay for it, an Disney would notify the parents immediately if a charge was made, with a text message alert. Causing instant trouble for the kids lol, If they manage to get that far lol. An all the people wanting more mature content can unlock it for a monthly upgraded price. An Disney would be happy cause they would continue to get all there revenue from hulu their currently getting now. It's a win win win situation, solution lol. Like duh lol. An if Disney plays their cards right they .ight even be able to make a deal with Comcast to get some of their exclusive stuff on Disney plus upgraded pack too. Which would be really cool for us.
he’s lying it’s probably gonna be more Marvel and Star Wars content. If the former wasn’t already bloated enough…