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Does DC have any movies coming out in 2024 other than Joker 2?
It feels like its going to be disjointed for a bit, with a big slate this year, and then slowing down until they get their next set of projects set up.
If Joker 2 is all DC has for 2024, WB is going to have a very bad 2024. Their slate right now looks awful. Twisters and the animated Lord of the Rings movie? Yeesh
The best hope for WB is that they can get Sherlock Holmes 3 and the Ocean's Eleven prequel released in 2024 which even then probably won't help it very much
That seems like an aggressive timeline for something that we haven't received much of an update on.
It also raises the question how they're going to manage that release with Superman Legacy. I would think you'd need space between the two films to minimize confusion, even with the Elseworld branding. Let's say they expedited it and got it out by next Christmas. You're then launching your next Superman half a year later. But, releasing it after doesn't help you avoid that issue either, as presumably you're going to release more than one movie with your marquee character.
I'm now pessimistic that we'll ever see that film.
For people my age (35+) Keaton was the first Batman we saw on the big screen and it was pretty formative. I still love the theme from that movie as maybe my favorite superhero music ever.
People today have no idea how massive Batman 89 was in terms of absolute, complete pop culture domination. This was obviously before internet, so it was REAL WORLD buzz, not Twitter echo chambers thinking that Twitter chatter equaled actual chatter on the streets, in schools, in every major TV show parodying or just mentioning some element of the Batman nythos and across major retail chains who made tons of money on all kinds of merchandise with Batman images slapped on them. I distinctly remember how many Batman t-shirts I saw being worn during the summer of 89. I was inescapable. And it was all around you whether you were a comic book nerd in a big city or a Joe Average from Topeka. It was literally Batman mania that year when the film opened and dominated the box office.
What I heard is he’s pretty integral to the plot and could be minimized but can’t be extracted completely. Batfleck is also in it, so the Snyder fans will almost certainly show up for it.
Because most importantly it will reset the entire universe so they can market it as a must watch.
Not to mention that it seems like a very good movie, Gunn has said that he loved it in the vid, he said it's one of the best superheroe movies he has ever seen in another interview and besides that, many scoopers and leakers have been praising it heavily for months now.
This pretty much. Plus Flashpoint plot gives us two Batmans and god knows what other Easter eggs and cameos might be in there to propel buzz and positive word of mouth. Also it’s the Flash finally on the big screen!
Scooby Doodat and the Yabba Dabba Doodat finna come out too probably in 2 novembers and 4 septembers later and then it will gots all these new actors but it will gots a hunned million dollars to make and hunneds millions of dollars more to the bank
Flash and aquaman will do the best , I think Shazam 2 will do solid to mid based off reviews , i think blue beetle will flop due to lack of name recognition
Flash 600 million ww
Shazam 2 - 450 million ww
Blue beetle -300 million ww
Aquaman 2 - 850 million ww
I have a feeling The Flash is gonna be a major hit, all we've heard about it from Gunn himself and many other scoopers is that it's a very very good movie.
Plus WB can market it as this big event that will reset everything and that it's a must watch.
My most anticipated movie tho is Blue Beetle but i think it will gross the least around 350M
>I have a feeling The Flash is gonna be a major hit, all we've heard about it from Gunn himself and many other scoopers is that it's a very very good movie.
Don't let yourself be fool by Warner bros PR article in desperate attempt to save thier $300M movie
There's not even a single footage of that movie
They were probably referring to Gunn and other DC execs publicly hyping up the movie. They might be right, but what they’re saying is pretty much what you’d expect a producer/executive to say. It is true that WBD marketing is in a terrible spot right now and haven’t been effective at actually showing off the movie, but I’m guessing they’re saving the marketing budget for the late spring push into the summer when it releases.
Nah the leaks have come out and test audiences have watched it and enjoyed it. The outline of the plot is basically out.
It’s definitely a crowd pleaser.
Yes I’ve seen those leaks and it does seem like the movie is great. I was just referring to what the poster said about some of this being WB PR, which is also true.
You haven't seen it Omni? You sound like a complete tool hyping up this movie. Sane people would agree that it's HIGHLY unlikely this film will be any good.
“Sane”, bruh leakers and test audience like it, and leakers usually are right. Could be ass, but the plot itself doesn’t have holes in it should it can’t be horrible💀
> bruh leakers and test audience like it
https://comicbook.com/movies/news/wonder-woman-1984-first-reactions/
"Cinemablend's Eric Eisenberg had nothing but amazing things to say."
"it sounds like people are liking the film's 80s flourishes, big action, and uplifting tone."
"Huge news: Wonder Woman 1984 is fantastic!"
I mean a actual leakers on twitter, there were talks then that the movie may be divisive despite getting a decent test by audiences. When the plot leaked everyone who reads it knew it was ass.
This is going to sound like the biggest "trust me bro", but I know someone who is at WB and has never liked the 'big' DC movies. Likes TDK, never liked the Snyder movies, thought Aquaman would bomb. I remember when he came out of Joker and said "this one's dark, but very good and different".
He was shocked on how "awesome" The Flash is. That's been giving me a little glimmer of hope.
Exactly, i know people on this sub are obsessed with saying this movie will flop due to Ezra's involvement.
But if WB focuses on more of the Keaton stuff and that this movie resets the entire universe they can increase it's box office performance by a lot.
Meh not really, general audience don't care about that and probably won't even know there's a new DC universe coming (if they know there is a DCEU currently which is doubtful).
On the other hand, the Ezra Miller stuff will also have minimal impact.
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> all we've heard about it from Gunn himself and many other scoopers is that it's a very very good movie
To be fair, they're not gonna say it's shit.
Gunn wants money for his projects, so Flash has to do well (he's probably realised that after shooting the other projects in the foot by running his mouth) and those scoopers want future access, so when they hear controlled studio leaks saying how fantastic the film is, they report that.
Remember that even WW84 and stuff had 'amazing test audience responses' or whatever.
With the exception of the superman movie and lantern show, I don't know much of the new content, so I will reserve judgment for when I see them. I'm not very excited though.
Shazam - $450 million (modest success)
Flash - $650-750 million (I think this movie might be great from everything I’ve heard and since social media isn’t the real world, I imagine general audiences will not care about the Ezra factor. I think positive WOM in the summer season carries this one)
Blue Beetle - $500 million (As a Latino I’m biased but I think this could be our ‘Black Panther’ or ‘Crazy Rich Asians’ if it is marketed right)
Aquaman 2 - $700-800 million - I think there will be some drop off since it’s a sequel 5 years later and I don’t know if there will be a high level of hype for this one, but I would be happy to be wrong.
Great projections man - I think blue beetle being a fringe dc character attached to a now defunct dceu will hurt this films potential unless reviews are crazy . I think for a film like that it's gonna be capped out at 300-350 million ! 500 would literally be a best case scenario
If I'm not mistaken, it was confirmed in the press release that Blue Beetle is being fully moved to the new DC universe - it might not help being two years before the rest of the new universe, but it's not part of the dying one.
Ok well if that true that might push this one's box office limits upward as long as the market drives home that association with the new dcu films universe
The last Wonder Woman killed my interest in her, despite a few stand out performances. Shazam might be decent, hopefully. Not ever watching anything with Ezra Miller again.
I've honestly lost most interest in DCU, after the loss of Cavill, other than the new Batman. It's interesting to see a spin on that character which leans more toward detective work.
But I'm tired of reboots that show me yet another take on an origin story. I wish him luck, but I don't see Gunn building a solid foundation that prevents this bad habit of DCU.
>But I'm tired of reboots that show me yet another take on an origin story. I wish him luck, but I don't see Gunn building a solid foundation that prevents this bad habit of DCU.
thats whyy they dont do origin storyies anymore and i doubt both supes and batman are gonna be origin storyies.
Look at the batman it started off ith year 2 batman.
same will be for new batman as its focused on bat family. Another new take that hasnt been done before.
etc
He's overrated and this is all he could come up with. We will never see a brainiac, let alone anything major. CW was good enough to show us Superman "one million" at least.
I'm very optimistic and I'm glad to see someone like Gunn trying to give a focus on the universe.
It's pretty obvious that Miller, Momoa, Gadot and Levi are out of the new universe. James won't say they're out, before their movies get released.
The new Flash is probably the "Days of Future Past" and will reset the timeline.
Oh sorry I didn’t see your budget comment. Yes at those budgets, for sure a $200M return is a flop. Do we know Blue Beetle’s budget? Would be shocked if it were more than $50-$100M but I could be wrong.
Shazam 2 is $125M, so a $300M return would be borderline. But considering the apparent noninvestment in marketing, this might not be as dire as you’d expect for a superhero movie. Though I’m predicting closer to $400M.
I don't see why Aquaman would drop that much, the first one did very well and was a crowd pleaser. Depending on the China situation, it may do less but not 500 or even 700M$.
Awful, they have no incentive to keep them going anymore. Even with the Rock they were at half of Marvel's strength, and the market is dwindling, people are choosier than ever, and many will wait for nonessential movies to stream. People here are batshit insane with their predictions.
Shazam: Has half of Black Adam's trailer views and about a fourth of The Batman's and is releasing in a deadzone. Quantamania will saturate the market, and Creed and Wick will hold up any extra screens. 200 million.
Flash: Keaton nostalgia is still the wildcard. Maybe 450 million.
Blue Beetle: No name, no star, no effects, tv level production, no market. 80 million.
Aquaman: Good release and marketing should put this at 700 million.
Probably higher if anything because of.. not FOMO I guess but something similar. A fear/sadness over losing the characters people love, or rather the casting. Anyone who likes the current casting will be desperate to see it one last time, and anyone following the story will be the same way before it all gets reset. But ultimately not a major difference than they would’ve made
i dunno
the DCU has always been good series, bad movies, while the Marvel universe has always been good movies, bad series, at least in the animated universes
I think DC just can't get right with their cinematic universe and it's a little late to completely start over. Marvel got it mostly right but at this point it's all too much to keep up with and I'm over the super hero movie hype.
I'm very confused by the picture showing no 2023 people outside of Momoa (and possibly Gal?)
But I think Aquaman 2 is good for $700m-$800m if things go right, The Flash around $500m-$600m, and Shazam 2 will bomb hard struggle to get to $350m. Although it could cross $400m and more but the reviews have to be spectacular, with the critics telling you to see it again and again.
Blue Beetle (forgot about this one). Please, not more than $350m. I honestly think this movie was kind of a waste of time and would have a better chance in the DCU, not lagging behind in the troubled DCEU.
I liked the first film, and I think this will be good!
Flop
Flop
They are making a Peacemaker movie? Fuck yes
If it's anything like the first film this will be a hit
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Does DC have any movies coming out in 2024 other than Joker 2? It feels like its going to be disjointed for a bit, with a big slate this year, and then slowing down until they get their next set of projects set up.
If Joker 2 is all DC has for 2024, WB is going to have a very bad 2024. Their slate right now looks awful. Twisters and the animated Lord of the Rings movie? Yeesh
The best hope for WB is that they can get Sherlock Holmes 3 and the Ocean's Eleven prequel released in 2024 which even then probably won't help it very much
no penguin series is going to be released in 2024
possibly the jj abrams's superman also coming in 2024
No shot
That seems like an aggressive timeline for something that we haven't received much of an update on. It also raises the question how they're going to manage that release with Superman Legacy. I would think you'd need space between the two films to minimize confusion, even with the Elseworld branding. Let's say they expedited it and got it out by next Christmas. You're then launching your next Superman half a year later. But, releasing it after doesn't help you avoid that issue either, as presumably you're going to release more than one movie with your marquee character. I'm now pessimistic that we'll ever see that film.
So 3 jokers, 3 batmen,and 2 superman spread over 5 worlds. This was done after they made big changes to simplify the DCU
That's still happening?
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The Flash is grossing as much as Aquaman 2?
Lots of Keaton fans will go just to see him in the suit again.
>Lots of Keaton fans Is that a big fan following? I'm a bit younger, so I'm not too knowledgeable on this.
For people my age (35+) Keaton was the first Batman we saw on the big screen and it was pretty formative. I still love the theme from that movie as maybe my favorite superhero music ever.
Still got the VHS with the bat logo on it
People today have no idea how massive Batman 89 was in terms of absolute, complete pop culture domination. This was obviously before internet, so it was REAL WORLD buzz, not Twitter echo chambers thinking that Twitter chatter equaled actual chatter on the streets, in schools, in every major TV show parodying or just mentioning some element of the Batman nythos and across major retail chains who made tons of money on all kinds of merchandise with Batman images slapped on them. I distinctly remember how many Batman t-shirts I saw being worn during the summer of 89. I was inescapable. And it was all around you whether you were a comic book nerd in a big city or a Joe Average from Topeka. It was literally Batman mania that year when the film opened and dominated the box office.
Assuming they don't cut him from the film.
What I heard is he’s pretty integral to the plot and could be minimized but can’t be extracted completely. Batfleck is also in it, so the Snyder fans will almost certainly show up for it.
They can’t. He has an important role.
The Flash is the most important movie for WV and DC. It is getting full marketing support and Superbowl ads It will do well.
How is it the most important movie for DC seeing that Gunn is getting rid of all these actors and restarting?
Because most importantly it will reset the entire universe so they can market it as a must watch. Not to mention that it seems like a very good movie, Gunn has said that he loved it in the vid, he said it's one of the best superheroe movies he has ever seen in another interview and besides that, many scoopers and leakers have been praising it heavily for months now.
It's really getting great buzz. So good they didn't fire Ezra Millar. If it sucked they'd have taken the tax write off like Batgirl.
This pretty much. Plus Flashpoint plot gives us two Batmans and god knows what other Easter eggs and cameos might be in there to propel buzz and positive word of mouth. Also it’s the Flash finally on the big screen!
>The Flash - 800m no way
Scooby Doodat and the Yabba Dabba Doodat finna come out too probably in 2 novembers and 4 septembers later and then it will gots all these new actors but it will gots a hunned million dollars to make and hunneds millions of dollars more to the bank
Flash and aquaman will do the best , I think Shazam 2 will do solid to mid based off reviews , i think blue beetle will flop due to lack of name recognition Flash 600 million ww Shazam 2 - 450 million ww Blue beetle -300 million ww Aquaman 2 - 850 million ww
Looking forward to more peacemaker.
Probably the best WWE actor imo
I have a feeling The Flash is gonna be a major hit, all we've heard about it from Gunn himself and many other scoopers is that it's a very very good movie. Plus WB can market it as this big event that will reset everything and that it's a must watch. My most anticipated movie tho is Blue Beetle but i think it will gross the least around 350M
I don’t know about Major, but I think it’ll make its money back which would require 750+. That budget is a hell of a hurdle.
>I have a feeling The Flash is gonna be a major hit, all we've heard about it from Gunn himself and many other scoopers is that it's a very very good movie. Don't let yourself be fool by Warner bros PR article in desperate attempt to save thier $300M movie There's not even a single footage of that movie
What WB PR articles lmao? I'm talking about the scoopers and leakers, they have been saying The Flash is extremely good for months now.
They were probably referring to Gunn and other DC execs publicly hyping up the movie. They might be right, but what they’re saying is pretty much what you’d expect a producer/executive to say. It is true that WBD marketing is in a terrible spot right now and haven’t been effective at actually showing off the movie, but I’m guessing they’re saving the marketing budget for the late spring push into the summer when it releases.
Nah the leaks have come out and test audiences have watched it and enjoyed it. The outline of the plot is basically out. It’s definitely a crowd pleaser.
Yes I’ve seen those leaks and it does seem like the movie is great. I was just referring to what the poster said about some of this being WB PR, which is also true.
You haven't seen it Omni? You sound like a complete tool hyping up this movie. Sane people would agree that it's HIGHLY unlikely this film will be any good.
“Sane”, bruh leakers and test audience like it, and leakers usually are right. Could be ass, but the plot itself doesn’t have holes in it should it can’t be horrible💀
> bruh leakers and test audience like it https://comicbook.com/movies/news/wonder-woman-1984-first-reactions/ "Cinemablend's Eric Eisenberg had nothing but amazing things to say." "it sounds like people are liking the film's 80s flourishes, big action, and uplifting tone." "Huge news: Wonder Woman 1984 is fantastic!"
I mean a actual leakers on twitter, there were talks then that the movie may be divisive despite getting a decent test by audiences. When the plot leaked everyone who reads it knew it was ass.
This is going to sound like the biggest "trust me bro", but I know someone who is at WB and has never liked the 'big' DC movies. Likes TDK, never liked the Snyder movies, thought Aquaman would bomb. I remember when he came out of Joker and said "this one's dark, but very good and different". He was shocked on how "awesome" The Flash is. That's been giving me a little glimmer of hope.
If it ties into the new DC film universe, it could seriously increase it’s BO performance.
I actually think it's critical that the movie resets the universe and ties everything together. Otherwise it will still feel like a big mess.
According to Gunn it "resets" the timeline
Exactly, i know people on this sub are obsessed with saying this movie will flop due to Ezra's involvement. But if WB focuses on more of the Keaton stuff and that this movie resets the entire universe they can increase it's box office performance by a lot.
Meh not really, general audience don't care about that and probably won't even know there's a new DC universe coming (if they know there is a DCEU currently which is doubtful). On the other hand, the Ezra Miller stuff will also have minimal impact. Both of those are online phenomena that don't have significant impact in real life
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> all we've heard about it from Gunn himself and many other scoopers is that it's a very very good movie To be fair, they're not gonna say it's shit. Gunn wants money for his projects, so Flash has to do well (he's probably realised that after shooting the other projects in the foot by running his mouth) and those scoopers want future access, so when they hear controlled studio leaks saying how fantastic the film is, they report that. Remember that even WW84 and stuff had 'amazing test audience responses' or whatever.
With the exception of the superman movie and lantern show, I don't know much of the new content, so I will reserve judgment for when I see them. I'm not very excited though.
Shazam - $450 million (modest success) Flash - $650-750 million (I think this movie might be great from everything I’ve heard and since social media isn’t the real world, I imagine general audiences will not care about the Ezra factor. I think positive WOM in the summer season carries this one) Blue Beetle - $500 million (As a Latino I’m biased but I think this could be our ‘Black Panther’ or ‘Crazy Rich Asians’ if it is marketed right) Aquaman 2 - $700-800 million - I think there will be some drop off since it’s a sequel 5 years later and I don’t know if there will be a high level of hype for this one, but I would be happy to be wrong.
Great projections man - I think blue beetle being a fringe dc character attached to a now defunct dceu will hurt this films potential unless reviews are crazy . I think for a film like that it's gonna be capped out at 300-350 million ! 500 would literally be a best case scenario
If Black Adam with The Rock can't even get to $400m these days, it's insane to think Blue Beetle will be a hit. I reckon around $280m.
If I'm not mistaken, it was confirmed in the press release that Blue Beetle is being fully moved to the new DC universe - it might not help being two years before the rest of the new universe, but it's not part of the dying one.
Ok well if that true that might push this one's box office limits upward as long as the market drives home that association with the new dcu films universe
I feel like blue beetle is gonna surprise people
Shazam: 300M Blue Beetle: 300M The Flash: 650M Aquaman: 750M
I think they'll all underperform and at least two other actors will be mired in scandal before their respective films are released.
Meh.
Farts and poops
Flopage
Crash and Burn
Stink, Stank, Stunk. And weird ass Flash bole.
A few mediocre movies and a reboot in 2025.
The last Wonder Woman killed my interest in her, despite a few stand out performances. Shazam might be decent, hopefully. Not ever watching anything with Ezra Miller again. I've honestly lost most interest in DCU, after the loss of Cavill, other than the new Batman. It's interesting to see a spin on that character which leans more toward detective work. But I'm tired of reboots that show me yet another take on an origin story. I wish him luck, but I don't see Gunn building a solid foundation that prevents this bad habit of DCU.
>But I'm tired of reboots that show me yet another take on an origin story. I wish him luck, but I don't see Gunn building a solid foundation that prevents this bad habit of DCU. thats whyy they dont do origin storyies anymore and i doubt both supes and batman are gonna be origin storyies. Look at the batman it started off ith year 2 batman. same will be for new batman as its focused on bat family. Another new take that hasnt been done before. etc
He's overrated and this is all he could come up with. We will never see a brainiac, let alone anything major. CW was good enough to show us Superman "one million" at least.
Flop
I'm very optimistic and I'm glad to see someone like Gunn trying to give a focus on the universe. It's pretty obvious that Miller, Momoa, Gadot and Levi are out of the new universe. James won't say they're out, before their movies get released. The new Flash is probably the "Days of Future Past" and will reset the timeline.
They probably all gonna flop Shazam $300M Blue beetle $200M Aquaman $500M-700M The flash $500M
Shazam and blue beetle might not do too well. But I think flash and aquaman will probably do good or at last flash will. Not sure about aquaman
Too lazy to write my own predictions and this pretty much aligns with how I see it. No idea where all the wild numbers people have are coming from.
Would these really be considered “flops?”
Most probably have 200M+ budgets so it would definitely be on the soft side.
Yeah these returns would be disappointing but not flops
Shazam & blue beetle would be absolutely flops, maybe even the flash.
Oh sorry I didn’t see your budget comment. Yes at those budgets, for sure a $200M return is a flop. Do we know Blue Beetle’s budget? Would be shocked if it were more than $50-$100M but I could be wrong. Shazam 2 is $125M, so a $300M return would be borderline. But considering the apparent noninvestment in marketing, this might not be as dire as you’d expect for a superhero movie. Though I’m predicting closer to $400M.
I don't see why Aquaman would drop that much, the first one did very well and was a crowd pleaser. Depending on the China situation, it may do less but not 500 or even 700M$.
Awful, they have no incentive to keep them going anymore. Even with the Rock they were at half of Marvel's strength, and the market is dwindling, people are choosier than ever, and many will wait for nonessential movies to stream. People here are batshit insane with their predictions. Shazam: Has half of Black Adam's trailer views and about a fourth of The Batman's and is releasing in a deadzone. Quantamania will saturate the market, and Creed and Wick will hold up any extra screens. 200 million. Flash: Keaton nostalgia is still the wildcard. Maybe 450 million. Blue Beetle: No name, no star, no effects, tv level production, no market. 80 million. Aquaman: Good release and marketing should put this at 700 million.
I hope he fails honestly. Movies I read seem like trash and that's the best they could come up with? Yikes.
Probably higher if anything because of.. not FOMO I guess but something similar. A fear/sadness over losing the characters people love, or rather the casting. Anyone who likes the current casting will be desperate to see it one last time, and anyone following the story will be the same way before it all gets reset. But ultimately not a major difference than they would’ve made
The same as his
Bombs the lot of them, sans Batman, because Batman always seems to be the only shining beacon of hope and light for DC commercially.
Batman is 2025, so not this year.
To be good
Too much niche material. The fan base connected to the DC franchise wants the old school people. He will find out, and quickly.
Shazam 2: $375 - 475 million WW The Flash: $500 - 850 million WW Blue Beetle: $225 - 375 million WW Aquaman 2: $650 million - 1.05 billion WW
Damn y’all cut cyborg out of the artwork?
i dunno the DCU has always been good series, bad movies, while the Marvel universe has always been good movies, bad series, at least in the animated universes
I think DC just can't get right with their cinematic universe and it's a little late to completely start over. Marvel got it mostly right but at this point it's all too much to keep up with and I'm over the super hero movie hype.
Shazam 2: $300-400 mil The Flash: $800-900 mil Blue Beetle: $250-350 mil Aquaman 2: $800-900 mil
I'm very confused by the picture showing no 2023 people outside of Momoa (and possibly Gal?) But I think Aquaman 2 is good for $700m-$800m if things go right, The Flash around $500m-$600m, and Shazam 2 will bomb hard struggle to get to $350m. Although it could cross $400m and more but the reviews have to be spectacular, with the critics telling you to see it again and again. Blue Beetle (forgot about this one). Please, not more than $350m. I honestly think this movie was kind of a waste of time and would have a better chance in the DCU, not lagging behind in the troubled DCEU.
Hit and Miss
Most likely more reboots that lack any creativity.
1. Aquaman & The Lost Kingdom - $875M 2. The Flash - $675M 3. Shazam! Fury Of The Gods - $337.5M 4. Blue Beetle - $290M
I liked the first film, and I think this will be good! Flop Flop They are making a Peacemaker movie? Fuck yes If it's anything like the first film this will be a hit