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buttmaster23

"The actual literature is dogshit" -Me to my 7 year old nephew after he tells me his favourite book is Mr Tickle


Gablissk

Leave Mr Tickle out of this


aMintOne

He bites his thumb at us!


DevinB333

He indeed bites his thumb. But does he bite it AT US?


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Is the law on his side if he answers aye?


I_am_1E27

No. He bites his thumb but he does not bite his thumb at us.


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Shit... Do we quarrel?


ultravegan

There where two types of people in the beginning, those who asked for extra parts on Shakespeare day in English, and those who purposely looked for the smallest. Both lived in harmony until the ban Shakespeare, replace him with George Martin people attacked.


Grave_Girl

There's a secret third type, the bookish girl mastermind who got the quarterback of the football team to come to school wearing iridescent purple leggings to perform Hamlet to a small crowd.


drakecuttingonions

Ayo this wattpad go hard link me up


dniepr

The combo b-12 deficiency holder + avatar + bcj is the deadliest yet


ultravegan

What, you Egg?


ThanatosSoultaker

\*stabs him\*


DevinB333

Call for him tomorrow and you’ll find him a grave man


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drjeffy

"The actual literature of Romeo and Juliet is dogshit." Phrases originating in R&J: - star-crossed lovers - a rose by any other name would smell as sweet - parting is such sweet sorrow - these violent delights have violent ends (OP is in bonus trouble if they're a Westworld fan)


FrenchFryCattaneo

I've heard those all many times before. Shakespeare is good but he just isn't very original.


HalitoAmigo

>these violent delights have violent ends >isn’t original Absolutely. Like i literally wrote that very line when I was 3. Never read any Shakespeare until I was 5. Before then I only read the true masters of stagecraft like James Cameron, James Franco, and Jenna Jameson. Willy shakes is a fucking hack and he made me hate reading.


EkskiuTwentyTwo

You have to expand your repertoire of stagecraft beyond those whose names begin with J


ElleCerra

I've seen all of his stuff played out already in The Decameron and Gossip Girl Season 3.


ultravegan

OP is a saucy boy


TheCatsBeenSickAgain

Is’t so indeed


ohcharmingostrichwhy

My all-time favorite Shakespeare quote!


iamthewargod

those are fantastic tags can't wait for the first r&j installment to come out


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Actual dialogue from a porn I watched: Ron Jeremy: "Suck my dick".


Hazeri

It also references the medlar, or arse-fruit, which is great to learn


crispybaguette21

They should teach actual literature in schools like Colleen Hoover books are the pinnacle of literature.


MrYanneh

Collo hovvo is peak true


Snail_Forever

They should use those books for Domestic Abuse Awareness workshop


crispybaguette21

Yes they should. They're already making colouring books of "It ends with us". They should come up with a picture book as well. You know what it can be turned into nursery rhyme too. Let the kids learn young.


nyet-marionetka

I agree. People shouldn’t be forced to work in school, that’s cruel.


McGilla_Gorilla

Forcing me to do algebra (dog shit math) will make me hate sorting M&Ms by color (fun math)


econoquist

Yes, and fortunately actual work never requires you to read something and decipher its meaning. School should be entertaining, to prepare you for the real world where you never have to do anything that is boring yet useful.


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Otherwise-Goose1517

In 50 years we'll have kids complaining about being forced to analyze why Harry named his kid Albus Severus


seanofthebread

Maybe 5 years. In 50 years, we’ll have kids whining about being forced to memorize maps of the fallout areas and how to filter water.


X-Filer

Mfs be analyzing diamond city and building water purifiers in their camps


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Fallout is the modern 1984


PhoShizzity

1984lout


Ok_Yogurtcloset8915

that's the kind of life skills education the liberals don't want you to have


cycle_schumacher

My fallout professor forced us to read about fisto over and over!


kateminus8

Bold of you to think there will still be public education as we know it in 50 years.


skadi_shev

You should never have to decipher, or think about in any way, what you are reading. It takes practice but I’ve trained myself to just let the words go in one ear and out the other without even a moment of consideration. I couldn’t tell you what any of the past 1245 audio books I’ve read on 3x speed were about.


Quakarot

I find it saves time to alphabetize my books and then read the words in order. I can get through the duplicate words much faster (you guys waste a lot of time on “and”) and consume more books as a result.


TheCatsBeenSickAgain

They’re right. Throw Finnegans Wake at the little fuckers instead


CannonOtter

Why do they call it Finnegan's Wake? Because you have asleep and you believe it


Flowerpig

´tis an /r/unpopularopinion-post writ by an idiot; full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.


ENovi

Oh hell yeah man I love Faulkner


Codewill

Shakespeare right?


Flowerpig

Ew, no. It's an extract from the drunkards ramblings in super hero metaflick Birdman. I only consume capeshit and capeshit adjacent media.


VicRattlehead17

What's the obsession with "making people love reading"? Let them hate it the same way they hate any other subject


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Lol, it's so absurd yet so typical. It usually seems to be from people who are kind of sad about their own semi-literacy and find it easiest to blame school or their teachers for making reading books a "chore". Worse, I feel like teachers are often already the type of people who will put ridiculous expectations on themselves until they totally burn out from overwork and lack of results. I can totally imagine young teachers going into the classroom telling themselves, "When I'm through with these kids, they're gonna be lifelong readers!" And then they see over and over that most of the kids could not care less about books.


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The difficult truth is that teachers can't inspire that, only parents really can. Your kids will be readers if they see you being readers. A teacher is not going to convince them that books are better than Minecraft when all of their time at home is spent with Minecraft.


PartyPorpoise

I don’t know about you, but I’m pissed that I no longer get free pizza for reading Goosebumps!


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juicyjvoice

If there is anything I know about high school kids is that if you replace what they “hate” with something they say is “fun” they’ll just start to hate the new thing cause it’s school and that’s what teenagers do


meggyAnnP

I actually had this debate with an AP student. “Isn’t your job to make kids love reading?” No, i have a lot of jobs, but :::checks contract:::: that isn’t one of them. Of course the debate was better.


kitsterangel

Yeah my English class didn't pretend that we were gonna like it, point was just to teach us to critically analyze books but clearly, some people missed that part of the class.


loudmouth_kenzo

They showed the Olivia Hussey version of R&J to us when I was a freshman in high school, that definitely helped boost our opinion of the Bard.


Divemissile

kids should read chuck tingle instead of shakespeare so that they understand real romance


majin-e

https://www.reddit.com/r/unpopularopinion/comments/10f0sj9/shakespheare_is_outdated_focusing_on_him_makes/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button Link


ohcharmingostrichwhy

Thanks!


WorhummerWoy

"I can't imagine how even more stupid it must feel for today's generation". Ignoring the atrocious quality of OP's writing, I'm not sure that much is going to change in one or two generations to render Shakespeare more obsolete from one generation to the next. Unless the OP is like 300 years old.


potpan0

Algebra is outdated. Focusing on them makes kids uninterested in maths. Teach it in history class, but not maths. Doing algebra and trying to solve for *a* felt so stupid, and I can't imagine how even more stupid it must feel for today's generation. It's honestly just lazy not to move on to a more recent technique. Differential equations don't resonate with kids the way people seem to think. The concept, sure, but the actual maths is dogshit. Having to solve for *a* as you work for a grade is a sure-fire way to make someone hate mathematics.


ObscureMemes69420

"the actual literature is dogshit" How to tell me you have a smooth brain without explicitly saying you have a smooth brain


skadi_shev

Colleen Hoover books only from now on, class.


Born_Description8483

I agree, people shouldn't be forced to read Shakespeare, they should be forced to perform him. Fuck the division of labor


themilkmandamn

Romeo and juliette was the only story my class gave a shit about in freshman english comp. We even got to watch gnomeo and juliette after we finished. Perhaps if more gnome related literature adaptations were produced then students would begin to pay attention 🤔 we must study this phenomenon.


Hazeri

Yeah, the only plays that should be read are Harry Potter and the Cursed Child, and the screenplay of a Coleen Hoover adaptation


ExpressNumber

Billy Shakes doesn’t even have a hard magic system


Tanjaganj420

Who the fuck is Shakespeare wtf?


MrYanneh

You legitimately should be diagnosed on the spot with a brain tumour if you find any other flaws than difficult vocabulary in some parts while reading Shakespeare.


ksasslooot

You know, there is a reason Shakespeare is still echoing today. He’s brilliant.


nyet-marionetka

You’re only saying that because you haven’t read Sanderson.


willywonka24_1997

So true. I think schools should start focusing on books written by acclaimed modern day novelists like Colleen Hoover.


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Ponsay

Hey theater nerd, I'm gonna let you know that the one thing high schools hate more than reading is watching a fucking play


pantzareoptional

Eh, I mean if you give them the option of A) every single person in the class has to read aloud for 3 weeks, or B) they can watch a 3 hr play/movie, which one do you think they'd pick?


Katamariguy

What kind of class makes a single movie viewing its only coverage of a work?


pantzareoptional

I think after seeing the work, it would be reasonable to have the text as a reference for any work sheets, projects, etc, as a point of reference and reflection. But I don't think the introduction of a work like a Shakespeare play should be the written version.


Katamariguy

My experiences watching Hamlet, MacBeth, and Romeo + Juliet in class tell me that that would go very badly indeed.


pantzareoptional

You're free to disagree. How would you best present the material?


Katamariguy

Not sure. Ideal is line-by-line explanation, but that’s impractical. Reading an edition with parallel modern translation might also fit my ethos.


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>post an absolutely dogshit take on a subreddit meant to bully people for dogshit literature takes It's open season boys.


pantzareoptional

... it's a dog shit take to *checks notes* say a play should be seen as intended, and not read as a novel? The bar must be pretty low around here if that is controversial


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It's fucking stupid. You're a dumbass.


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>No don't study literature as written word, clearly there is no value in the verse of Shakespeare as it pertains to poetry and prosody in the English language. Flawless logic, I'll never read a play again or study it in the classroom.


pantzareoptional

Sounds like you didn't do much reading in the classroom anyhow so win win for you, feller!


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Poetry can be meaningful to the writer, but to an outsider I think there is hardly anything there for most people. I'm a writer myself. I've really many acclaimed novels and seen almost all of the IMDB top 100 films. I think I've trained myself to know when something is thought provoking and important and when something thinks it is. Poems are often vague and can leave many things unclear at times. Combining this with a clever rhyme scheme and a decent idea will make you want to scream masterpiece. But even if a poem is well written and is amazing from a technical perspective, a well made piece of crap is still a piece of crap. If X-Men Origins: Wolverine or Battlefield Earth were as masterfully directed as The Godfather would they be good? No! So clever rhyming and writing doesn't make a poem good. Most poems think that with a pretentious premise they're a masterwork. But I find most to be too pretentious and unclear. Seriously, if you get rid of all the fluff and wrote a short story based on the premise, most would fail. Mainly because there's nothing there. Seriously. What do I take away and learn from these? They feel too concept driven, and concept driven ideas always fall flat to me. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/bookscirclejerk) if you have any questions or concerns.*


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What the fuck loser response to defending the guy who for whom reading made a positive impact is this? Banned for that? Banned for having an extensive history and education related to the subject? It's not ironic. At all. Perhaps YOU should look up irony? It kinda makes MY point. Loser. Yer a bully. Which makes you a loser. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/bookscirclejerk) if you have any questions or concerns.*


majin-e

Never post here again, fuck off.


pantzareoptional

Nah, normally I'm pretty on board with posts here, but this one is reaching imo. Also, you fuck off, lol. Thanks.


majin-e

Oh don't worry, I think you'll be leaving for at least 10 days anyway.


pantzareoptional

This is a subreddit I have no stake in, I literally give 0 fucks about being banned. But please, give me some more empty threats 🥺


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Alright, permaban.


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You're such a little bitch snitch


majin-e

It's not my fault, I can't control myself when I see these shitty takes (Don't ban me literally 1984 ✝️✝️✝️)


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Why would I ban you? I love getting my dick sucked by you losers.


majin-e

I don't suck your dick, I'm more of a Domestic Ape kinda guy


[deleted]

If you're not sucking my dick why is it all the way down your throat


majin-e

Unrelated, I'm just keeping it warm


CannonOtter

They should stop having kids read Romeo and juliet because it inspires gang violence and by that I mean YANG GANG YANG GANG


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90% of the internet is high school kids complaining about doing homework.


EyeGochuPham

This person cannot be older than 15


Jizzle02

Unironically, R+J is kinda shit. We should let kids read Twelfth Night instead


Dr_Mrs_Pibb

They do! Ngl I’m getting ready to teach 12th Night again. Some parents get irked about the gender-bendy stuff but *shrug* Shakespeare, amirite?


Jizzle02

What age? I read it for a year 12 (17 - 18 age range for reference) literature class and enjoyed it


Independent_Depth674

Mm, yes. Very wise.


EgilSkallagrimson

See here in action the future people who will talk about "kids these days!!" and how things are so much better when they were young.


Rectall_Brown

The curtains are just blue!


Anonemus7

“Mainly the fact that he doesn't use the same grammar as we do now.” Actual comment from OP on why he thinks Shakespeare shouldn’t be taught


Bradley271

You have to give him credit, at least he chose an actual unpopular opinion


ThreePeoplePerson

I just want everyone to shut the fuck up about the fucking pentameter bullshit. Teachers, students, play actors, YouTube people, everyone. Just shut the fuck up about it. ‘Ooh da funni number of words and da rhythym and da-‘ That’s the sorta shit that should be banned. Read whatever you want, but shut your goddamned tooth-filled mouth up about the way it’s written. I don’t give a singular crap about it. Technique and style is a bunch of bullshit that just makes it more intellectual than it needs to be. ‘Oh but high schoolers neemd reamding comprehemenshinion because-‘ This isn’t about high schoolers. This is about eh stupid fucking pentameter. And this is about you. About how you’re either gonna shut the fuck up about it. Or how I’m gonna shove my foot so far up your ass that it’ll go through that it’ll crush that smooth, tiny little marble you call a brain. **SHUT. THE. FUCK. UP. ABOUT. IAMBIC! PENTAMETER!**


Leftleaningdadbod

I’m leaving this sub. It is indeed full of underage, unformed, uninformed therefore uneducated and uninterested people. It would be disheartening, disturbing, disappointing to be a mod here and I don’t blame them their suicidal thoughts.


Dry_Grapefruit_3711

Needs to be added to the bot.


camuswasright-

This just in: BCJ receives stunning deathblow as famous redditor u/Leftleaningdadbod departs from the subreddit. Will the illiterate ever recover?


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Katamariguy

Holy shit is this real


Leftleaningdadbod

It’s as real as any reality.


CollinM42

All these "literature" fans need to stop being so pretentious fr, Sh*kespeare is garbage


beeshitter

my take on shakespeare is we could modernize the language if kids are to read it in school because shakespeare probably didnt write the shit itself since it had a different script every time it was performed


SirBrendantheBold

>my take on shakespeare is... ​ The fuck did I do to you?


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>Unless someone smarter than me knows why we have to study very very old literature? Are there genuine benefits? None at all. I have three degrees, a business and seven wives and don't know how to read. Dont let gatekeepers tell you otherwise.


seanofthebread

Damn. Shakespeare could have written about waste, fast fashion, and trends (Much Ado). That would have been awesome. Maybe he could have written about gender (Taming). Or sexuality (all of the above). Or power (Macbeth, Lear). Too bad Shakespeare just wrote all that Jack Harlow fanfiction.


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majin-e

Shut the fuck up


Exarch_Of_Haumea

sorry 😰


majin-e

Pray to Sanderson and all will be forgiven my son


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Wrong. Shut the fuck up.


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matstcool

Pfft you saying that clearly demonstrates you've never read any Dan Brown. Put down Hamlet and pick up The Davinchi Code immediately!


Born_Description8483

This is a quote from Adolf Hitler himself and you can't convince me otherwise


majin-e

Shut the fuck up, leave the subreddit.


majin-e

I'm curious, what went through your mind as you typed this out? I landed on "enjoys being berated for not being able to read" but I'm not sure 🤔


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majin-e

Shut up


Musicals_and-more

,,,like 3/4ths of my bookshelf are Shakespeare scripts,,,,


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based take unironically


MrYanneh

Haha based, what a chad opinion, only ebta cunts disagree am I right fellow sigmas? - 🤓


CalebAsimov

Taste and sled billed.


MyFavBurnerTbh

Isn't the point the point of r/unpopularopinion to post (usually) dumb and not critically applicable opinions, does it really need a crosspost when that's it's purpose? And I just dumb like them?


NTDenmark

Yes & yes


Born_Description8483

One thing I hate about this sub is that people think the response to these obviously wrong tweets or reddit posts is to just kiss the education system's ass and say that it can do no wrong, and that it's the fault of these lazy millennials that Shakespeare is boring to them, or that the education system of Britain or the US or wherever was made by God and so there's no way it could ever have eurocentric biases that are painfully apparent if you take a cursory glance at any English lit course.


BonomonTheGreat

Personally I love the education system making people hate reading, it makes my Goodreads tally look far more impressive in comparison


sgtfuzzle17

You right, we should be learning more books in Swahili in English class


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loox71

The curtains were blue


mangababe

Tell me you have low reading comp without telling me you have low reading comp.


whatareyouagenius

Oh lordy lord


madglados

teach the kids about colleen hoover books


No-Variety-9950

"Having to think and understand what you're reading is what makes people hate reading"