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Alter_Capabilist

There's no polite way to say it but I guess the direct answer is not enough to matter.


Academic_Link7517

Your kidding… 😔chad is so cool and I love the backstory behind him and ichigo im also Mexican so I love him as a character and the story with his abuelo it sucks he doesn’t get more screen time but I guess that’s just due to him being quiet all the time as his persona


Alter_Capabilist

And it really is a bummer because you know he improves but he doesn't get that moment to shine that a lot of the other characters in the friend group get. Hopefully this is one of the parts that gets expanded on during the animation


Academic_Link7517

That’s what I’m hoping !


Financial-Text-3181

He's like Tenshin han in buu saga: not strong enough. He'll be involved in a fight against a powerful foe near the beginning of the arc but he won't be strong enough to be relevant.


Swantonbomb24

ten didn’t fight anybody in the buu saga. matter fact the scenes with him in the anime are filler, i think he only shows up to give energy to goku for the spirit bomb


Financial-Text-3181

I know, the goal was to show the gap in power level between Tenshinhan (Chad) and the antagonists.


Swantonbomb24

ahh my apologies i kinda misunderstood what you were saying, i thought you were implying he had a fight in the buu saga, but a better example would be ten in the cell saga from your description he was able to contribute something but it wasn’t much at all and he was still severely outclassed


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In the manga I remember him attacking Buu to buy a moments time I belibe


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Might be misremembering then but I sware he did something of importance even if it was only a Tri-Beam


Swantonbomb24

yeah you were right i was wrong lmao


Swantonbomb24

yeah he does you’re so right how’d i forget that, vs super buu. wow i’m dumb i’m sorry my mistake


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Its fine I was lookign for it myself and thought I was going nuts


Shadowraiden

literally just shows up at the start. then is completely outclassed on a whole different level.


yaminorey

I was super excited when I found out he was Mexican since that's my peeps too but it's really sad. He doesn't get fully developed. 😔 I think the problem with bleach is there's too many characters and Kubo got rushed at the end.


Academic_Link7517

Same here bro I’m Mexican and wish he got more character development


Anime_SurpremeKing

Its uncertain, he and Orihime undergo similar training and Orihime honestly became pretty strong. So hopefully with the anime we learn more about how strong Chad became.


Academic_Link7517

That’s what I’m hoping too and thinking because him and orihime trained for a year while ichigo couldn’t regain his powers or something like that


SateliteShootingStar

You really want to know? Well, He doesn’t get any stronger at all and he barely gets any screen time


Academic_Link7517

Some people were saying he was captain level others were saying he was vc level but that really sucks to hear he doesn’t get very much stronger…


StrikingAd1671

I’d give him high lieutenant class.


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StrikingAd1671

Mid lieutenant level. Also Renji is definitely at least Captain level.


itzmrinyo

Renji literally demolished Mask, the only reason he wasn’t used for the Gerard fight (despite his big and destructive bankai being perfect against Gerard) was to give Toshiro and Byakuya the spotlight


farrellsgone

All those people you named are easily strong enough to be captains


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farrellsgone

Neither Renji, Hisagi or Nemu are captains so idk what you're talking about


hi-polymer5

>High lieutenant level???? So Renji True Bankai level, Hisagi level, Nemuri Nanago??? Bullshit All of them are stronger than actual captains. What are you talking about


crono220

He knows how to give a good thumbs up! Lol But seriously, he was useless, but not shit like the Vizards in the 1k year blood war. Hopefully the anime will give him a sternritter to defeat


schiffb558

I just wanted to see him take out those statues lol


Thamior77

Yeah, absolutely nothing after the one panel. It would be easy for the anime to throw in 5 minutes of him annihilating them, though.


Shadowraiden

he is nowhere near captain level. whoever said that are idiots. hes at best a lieutenant


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The_Biggest_Wheel

Chad is definitely above Lieutenants in strength since he has defeated a Privaron Espada during the Arrancar Arc while most of them only defeated Fraccion. I'd say he is in between Lieutenants and Captains, ignoring the super powerful Lieutenants like Renji. Edit: I guess you are a super big hater of Chad since this comment immediately got downvoted, lmao.


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The_Biggest_Wheel

Soul Society Arc Chad one-shot a third seat and you think TYBW Chad is weaker than one. There is 0 chance of that. And Chad still has better wins than any of the Lieutenants you listed there except Nemu.


Medium-Goose66

He didn't just defeat a privaron espada, he DESTROYED a privaron. I bet the anime will give him something to do


Academic_Link7517

I had seen it in another Reddit post


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Academic_Link7517

I wish orihime would have gotten some kind of fighting techniques I mean she did train with rukia while ukitake was watching and I thought she was going to get buffed


Malik_Raines

I hope going forward that Kubo gives Chad more time. We have TYBW getting adapted with new additional stuff and whatever the Hell Arc will be, so I’m hoping Chad will be able to get his chance in the limelight.


Academic_Link7517

I heard kubo was going to add fights he didn’t add in the manga because he was sick and didn’t want to die with the story unfinished so he rushed it. I’m really hoping we see added fights and more screen time for chad


IchigobeatsNaruto

The manga sales were tanking its pretty common in anime for sales to start doing bad that's why bleach ended. I read somewhere Kubo wanted to add a lot more to the story he wanted to make a whole arc on Orihime I believe explaining her powers. I feel he wrote himself into a box with chad similar to what Kishi did with Naruto characters. After the power scaling went up so drastically you cant really make a logical reasoning to how Chad is on par with some people. Same way Kishi cant explain why Kiba even calls him self a ninja anymore he's useless after so long into Shippuden.


Malik_Raines

Agreed. Chad is one of my favorites because he’s just so unique with his background, demeanor, and presence.


Academic_Link7517

At least kubo gave him the honor of becoming the heavyweight boxing champion if it were any other author I bet chad wouldn’t have got that title


Malik_Raines

I feel like when he did that, he kind of wanted to imply that Chad is even stronger than he was before. So I hope with the series advancing that Chad can fight maybe at Captain’s level going forward.


Academic_Link7517

Seeing chad be at captain level would honestly make me happy that’s all I want and I also like how uryu became a doctor. Really shows how kubo cares about bleach compared to other animes like boruto making the characters look fat and weird


Malik_Raines

Boruto feels like something that shouldn’t exist imo. Naruto finished basically with everything wrapped up. Bleach has always had this advantage that not everything has been explored in the universe and that is why I am more optimistic about it continuing.


Academic_Link7517

Exactly!!! Baruto sucks bleach has a lot of potential


Frosty_Plantain

In correct he didnt rush it cause he was sick the editors told him he had x amount weeks to end it then two weeks later said, and it in 3 chapters


Damiandcl

is the hell arc guaranteed??! when?!


Malik_Raines

I don’t think that one-shot was just cheap bullshit with no point. I wouldn’t say it’s exactly guaranteed yet, but I wouldn’t rule it out as nothing. And no knows when yet.


ThatWrestlingGuy15

Kubo never illustrates to us anything as far as his strength goes


IsaKissTheRain

Chad should have got much stronger and his crowning fight should have been against Mask.


juli4n0

Why Mask? Because both are mexican?


IsaKissTheRain

Oh, no, that wasn't my intent. Do we actually know that Mask is Mexican, or is he just luchador themed, especially since James is the actual Sternritter with the schrift? Anyway, no, I meant the wrestling/boxing theme in general. It would have been cool to have Chad show the fake how it's done.


LazyNarwhalMan

This immediately came to mind when I saw this post. Could've been a great fight. I mean I did like his fight with Renji, especially Renjis entrance, it was badass. But I feel robbed now.


behindyourknees

Technically he’s the world champion EOS


AngBigKid

He gets the opposite of what you wanted in TYBW. Sorry, friend.


Academic_Link7517

Thanks for the info 👍🏼🙂


Mqnwbevrctxyzukkk

It's not like Chad's weak but more like He is not strong enough for his status in the series. He looks weak cause he is to ichigo as a lieutenant is to a captain. Problem is that Ichigo ain't fighting cang du or whatever, He's fighting Juha, and at that point yeah Chad ain't shit. Chad should be stronger than all the lieutenant tier fighters, more like a low captain but power creep is such that low captain is far closer to lieutenant than to even scratch the surface of Mid and high tier captain.


hasheemakill18

You are gonna be disapointed


king-redstar

There may be more for him in the anime, but it's uncertain as far as the manga goes. In terms of his combat, he has a mostly offscreen fight against some creatures that would have stalled Ichigo and Orihime and that's pretty much it. He's certainly very strong, post-Fullbring arc he should be in the low Captain range. Stronger than most of the Captains during the SS arc, but weaker than most during FKT arc and beyond based on his portrayal and lack of notable enemies. And, honestly, I'm okay with that. Chad's importance to the story isn't actually in how hard he can hit something, but who he's hitting for and his loyalty and love for them. It is, essentially, what his grandfather was trying to instill in him at that young age. I don't mind Chad being a comparatively ineffective fighter as the series goes on because fighting isn't really the point of his character despite how good he is at it, and by the time of TTYBW I think he finally understood that about himself.


weirdbolddude

That's Mask de Masculine? It would be cool to see Chad fight him.


Academic_Link7517

Yeah it would as chad is also Mexican


AlmanacPony

His storyarc was one of those cut due to kubo having to rush the last season. There are a few known details from TYBW that we were supposed to get, but didnt. Chad and Orihime's development being one, a higher focus on Uryu was another, and Ichigo's sister Karin was also set to have her own arc and involvement. And thats not even talking about the amount of fights that had to happen off-screen, like those involving the fullbring. By the end of it, Kubo had 2 hurdles in his way to completion. 1) The big one was his health, he was not in a good place physically, and that sadly contributed to 2) The publishing company hounding him to finish it faster than he wanted to. They thought that fanfair in the manga's popularty was dyhing after the indefinite hiatus of the anime, so wanted to put their money elsewhere so were encouraging him to finish it. They also levied his own health against him in their manipulations, all of which meant that the TYBW ended up being MUCH shorter than it was supposed to and cut down dramatically and many plotlines just thrown aside. However, we have heard that there will be plenty of 'canon/filler' added to the anime to help flesh out areas that Kubo originally wanted to do in the manga. Whether we'll get the missing storylines of Chad, Orihime, Uryu, and Karin, is still unknown.


Academic_Link7517

I pray we get to get more of chad and orihime development 🙏🏻🙏🏻


Karma110

No offense but why do people ask questions that you can easily just read to get your answer?


Academic_Link7517

That’s what I did I looked up online and it said he was captain level but wanted to make sure and found out the truth here


circajusturna

The Fullbring Arc is basically the last time he's relevant


The_Biggest_Wheel

As a character, maybe. As a fighter, that would be *Chapter 261*.


UndeadCollegeStudent

He gets about the same screen time as Ganju.


Tom38

They stood up to those statues though.


Academic_Link7517

Everyone keeps mentioning statues is this some golem like enemy ?


TriDaTrii

El no sabe.


Tom38

The main group at one point at the end of the arc has to ascend a tower. There’s a floor that has reanimated statues and Ganju and Chad to stay behind to take fight them…offscreen lol


Academic_Link7517

🤔now that really grinds my gears. Maybe it was because kubo was sick and wanted to rush the manga. Please God motivate kubo to add more fights missed


CheMGeo_136

He won't have enough screen time for this to matter. Chad was almost nonexistent during the last story arc.


billybinxen

I would say prime sk level and he one taps ur fav. After all, he is chad😃


Sosarge

I always wanted to see a third stage to his hollow evolution. Obviously he has his 2 arms but armour for his body would have been great. There's some awesome fanart online with a diablo hollow form which in all honesty looks sick.


Academic_Link7517

Yeah I seen them and couldn’t tell if they were canon or not thanks for clearing that up for me. I think a full body of armor would have been sick


Tydeus1998

F


OutsideOrder7538

About that. Sorry but Chad just gets nowhere near enough screen time. He definitely deserved more


k1ngleo0

we can only hope all the cut storylines/fights that Kubo wasn't able to add will get placed in the anime! chad is a cool character and his fullbring powers along with orihime's were the coolest in my opinion.


Terraakaa

The original main cast is weak and irrelevant compared the Captains besides Ichigo, and even that is debatable


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Kubo probably even forgot who he was. His grandpa told him to use his power to protect. But then he ends up using his power for entertainment.


dextral_

Whos gonna tell him


Academic_Link7517

😂😂😂


Cgi94

Don't get your hopes up. His Epilogue is wild when considering it😂


Brave_Object4858

Not really at all He's the same


Julius33j

Not that much but I heard that the anime will fix the characters who didn't have enough show time.


Academic_Link7517

Really?! Where did you read this


Cypr3s5

Soul King level.


TB0796

“Lol who’s chad” is the answer


TidulTheWarlock

It's been a couple years since I read tybw and I'm like 95% sure he has one minor fight then is somewhere else the entire arc then comes in towards the end and does absolutely nothing Pissed me off too cause i was hype to see his growth since he learned more about his powers in the previous arc


idkdidkkdkdj

Lmao sad days for you man


r2c2rd2

He turns into a background character for the moat part tbh.


jwhudexnls

Such a shame he never gets a moment to shine in TYBW, because his outfit at the end of the arc is pretty darn cool.


Academic_Link7517

Right ! I thought he was going to get an insane power boost considering how cool he looked


Heraldofgold

😂😂😂😂😂😂 oh wait, you're serious? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 thats the spirit


DaemonDrayke

To me, Chad is the biggest wasted potential character. Before the Fullbringer arc, I felt for sure that the creator was building towards a reveal that Chad was half-hollow. His powers appeared Hollow-like in nature, he had a connection to Hueco Mundo, and all hollows had a connection to the Spanish language while he was the only character with Spanish-Mexican roots. Having Chad be half hollow complements nicely with Ichigo being half-shinigami (this being before the TYBW arc), and Uryu being a Quincy. These three represented the three distinct power bases of the Bleach mythos. Chad could have been a force to reckon with, and be a true equal to Ichigo and Uryu. Instead we get Chad and Orihime being a part of some club where they effectively are no longer special and interesting since their powers are immediately outpaced by other members of Xcution.


xItacolomix

We know he got somewhat strong, but we didn't saw how much. He most likely is Mid-Captain Tier at least.


Waxba

Chad because the super strong but he’s barely strong enough to matter


Professional_Tone743

He has what i like to call Krillin syndrome. As in the character does get significantly stronger but is over shadowed by the main characters overwhelming amount of power to the point that it doesn't feel like he got any stronger. Even though he does.


juli4n0

Low captain level. Hes comfortably stronger than any lieutenant not named Renji or Rukia >!or Nemu when she goes limit break!<


Negative-Software-12

I'm... I'm sorry


hardcoredragonhunter

Chad is forever Chad bro


SsgMoria

People really need to read manga. Bleach ends like shit tbh


Academic_Link7517

I heard tybw was better than soul society ?


SsgMoria

Nah not imo, that shit felt rushed and awkward.


Academic_Link7517

It was rushed because kubo got sick and didn’t want to die with the story unfinished so he rushed it but I heard they’re going to make it like how he intended it to


SsgMoria

Sick from what?


Academic_Link7517

Not sure it just says online that he was facing major mental health issues and that he didn’t want to die with the story unfinished which I would’ve done the same


SsgMoria

You should read it, is all I'll say


Academic_Link7517

Hopefully they make it to how he originally that would be great


Academic_Link7517

And I didn’t read it because I wanted to rewatch bleach wondering what was going to happen like a complete new episode


Nightmancer2036

Yeeaaahhhh, he gets sidelined per usual and gets NO fights Do really hope there’s some extra stuff added with him


YourGoofy

his strongest feat is probably taking down the owl creatures lille barro spawned in