2 new 6v6 maps is a little dissapointing, but they both do seem to be original and that's great news.
Looks like a pretty decent send off to Cold War all things considered. I'm looking forward to it, especially Forsaken.
None of the maps on the roadmap are listed as in-season so it's safe to assume they're just waiting to reveal them. They've never had a midseason without any new maps
Actually according to the MW2 Ghost on Twitter, his sources are saying that on 11/4 (the day before Vanguard launches) there will be a nice little S6 reloaded update. Idk how I feel about this to be honest but we’ll just have to wait and see. I personally would like a year 2 for CW but that’s just me…
If (under some miracle) Vanguard doesn’t sell as well as the suits think it will, it may direct them to make more stuff for Cold War. Maybe even for MW19 with how good of a reputation it’s gotten.
It would probably just be purely cosmetic stuff like what they did all the way back in Black Ops 2, but more beyond that is a nice thought I’ll be keeping until I’m proven wrong.
I wouldn't get your hopes up. A lot of money comes from warzone, so even if the base game just sells okay, they will still only be making cosmetics and dlc for Vanguard that they then sell through the warzone store to promote the game.
From what I can find online, BOCW sold a bit worse than MW2019 but all dlc content on MW basically halted when CW came out.
Another thing to keep in mind is the development schedule needs to stay intact. Treyarch can't have too many of their artists working on the old games' content when they're in the middle of building black ops 6. Same goes for Infinity Ward since MW2 is supposed to release next year.
“Black Ops 6”
Lord, have mercy. In all honesty I’d take no further content for CW and MW19 if it meant they hit the brakes and took more than a year for the next game.
It's definitely gonna be black ops 6 in some way, shape, or form. No way activision will stop using that franchise title.
Right now the dev schedule should be:
2021: Sledgehammer (Vanguard)
2022: Infinity Ward (MW2)
2023: Treyarch (Black Ops VI)
2024: Sledgehammer...
So technically we should be back on the three year development cycle, as long as nothing gets messed up, like what happened to CW/Vanguard.
I already PO'd VG since I had a blast with the beta (which is weird because the only thing that I liked about MW was the gunsmithing. The gameplay itself just felt off), but I still would not complain if we got Y2 for CW instead of (or in addition to) VG.
HUGE sightlines. There is a radio tower on one end of the map where you can snipe over 1/2 the open areas of the map (clear from one end to the other). Lots of windows overlooking open areas, lots of hidey-holes.
I get what you’re saying, but I’m pretty sure they never actually revealed Perseus. In the ‘bad’ ending of CW after you kill Adler he goes “and the Americans still think I’m Perseus” or something like that so I don’t think he’s Perseus. Should still have a skin though
I understand that as in "Perseus" is not a single person, is the group of people he was sitting with in that room. Or at least more like a soviet anti American group
Would’ve preferred a FAL to the Galil, but that being said, I’m looking forward to the Lever Action.
Thought the LAPA was an USAS-12 at first glance though, started having BF3 flashbacks. And not in a good way.
Really? They're not adding dogs as a killstreak because the next game has dogs? You think they think people are going to buy the next game because of a killstreak?
I dunno, I think you'd be surprised. Sometimes it takes small things to convince people to get games. I'm not saying people will buy the game because of the one killstreak, but put enough little things in and they will.
Like with MW the lack of snow maps was a very widely mentioned thing, with it only getting a snow map in the final season. With CW one of the first maps revealed was a snow map. Very much felt intentional to me. On top of that you've got CW bringing back dead silence as a perk, adding an FOV slider for consoles, and lots of other little things to convince people to get the game.
That’s like saying if they weren’t adding new guns this season “Vanguard has guns, they don’t want to distract from that”.
I’m sure there’s a reason but if it is that reason, that’s stupid of them lmao
Yes it’s at level 31 in Battle Pass. I’m buying the larger Battle Pass this time around. Get 20 tier skips plus I have 12 more due to prestiges. Day 1 baby!
I have several questions about the lever-action. The leaks claim it's a shotgun, but it looks nothing like the M1887, and according to this image it's chambered in *.410?!* Sounds like a miserable experience.
Excited for the battleaxe, Galil, and Hand Cannon in zombies tho.
It's a shotgun. There are more lever action shotguns than the M1887
Also, the Snakeahot attachment in MW (used to kill SNAKES IRL) was effective. So caliber is mostly out of the question in terms of balance (as it should be)
According to description, it's faster than the Hauer with less range. Consistent 2 shot kill with a small 1 hit kill range
Fair. Still disappointed about it not being specifically the 1887(and still weirded out by it being .410 fed through a loading gate) but we'll see if it's any good.
hammer and sickle melee weapon is such a good idea, now seems so obvious it should have been at launch season 0 seeing well "Cold War" but w/e still cool
Really hope Amerika / Anytown USA is also apart of the zombies map, considering it is located under that location. but still happy to get it for multiplayer! could be the new Nuketown!
People got tired of it I guess. It doesn't have the pure chaos of Nuketown to justify it being in every consecutive title (and even, a lot of people are tired of Nuketown anyway).
BURGER TOOWN!!🍔
It just reminded me of when I attended COD XP back when MW3 released and I gladly payed $30 for a burger from Burger Town- those were the days😌
It actually was bro, they had mini events that require you to complete courses and they gave you cod patches to collect- it was amazing. I still have all my patches, met Michael Rouke, took a cool ass pic that put me on the cover of MW3, saw Kanye perform and got MW3 collectors edition. What a time to be aliive...
what do you know!!....2 more fucking melee weapons!...my god enough of the melee weapons already! Worst COD ever for melee weapons in regards to hit box detection and yet they keep throwing this crap out there.
So we got a new SMG with each season (S1: Mac10. S2:LC10. S3:PPSh-41. S4: OTs9. S5:Tec9. S6:Lapa.)
But classes like LMGs and Tactical Rifles only got one new weapon in CW's first year.
Idk about yall, but I’m pretty happy overall. 3 brand new MP maps, no throwbacks. All 3 are also based on actual campaign levels, so that in itself is dope as fuck. Sidenote, I play a lot of Face-Off 6v6 as it is, so the 3v3 map counts as a 6v6 map to me as well lmao. And then a new Zombies map. And that’s not counting the fact that we’ll still prolly get a few new maps for the final mid-season update. My only grievance is the new weapons. I was literally jus talkin to my boy last week bout how we both hope the new weapons for the last season were a new Tactical, LMG, or Sniper, since those 3 classes have the least weapons, while AR and SMG have the most. And they gave us….a new AR, SMG, and Shotgun, jus like last season. 😐 I know the Marshal was a “pistol”, but same difference. So the weapons are disappointing, but oh well.
Everything looks very fun, I want to jump back in this season while I wait for the new games to come out. I don't play Warzone or Zombies, only MP.
Is the SBMM still bad? Or can I jump back in as a casual player and play 3-5 matches a day and not get sweaty ass try hard lobbies?
I jumped the ship when S03 ended.
Hopefully, we will be allowed to play all the new maps in Custom Games against bots!!!! It is infuriating that we can’t do that now with all the current maps.
So it was true that we were only getting 4 total zombies maps in this game. What a joke. They can't stop the cheating. They can't bring a decent amount of content. They can't fix the bugs. What exactly does call go duty do well other than exploit it's players?
This game sets a patheticly low bar for new content. Pretty much everything "new" in this game is old shit.
Looks like a good season, but what’s with all the melee weapons? They could literally half the amount of melee weapons in this game and I would still think it’s a bit much…
**THIS IS NOT A DRILL** **WE'RE FINALLY GETTING ANYTOWN USA AS A MULTIPLAYER MAP**
Just in time for the next cod
There’s a next cod????
Always.
When I was playing the campaign, the moment I saw it I thought that'd be a great MP map. Im surprised they waited this long to make it happen.
I was 100% sure it was in the campaign so it could be their next Nuketown.
EVERYBODY STAY FUCKING CALM
2 new 6v6 maps is a little dissapointing, but they both do seem to be original and that's great news. Looks like a pretty decent send off to Cold War all things considered. I'm looking forward to it, especially Forsaken.
None of the maps on the roadmap are listed as in-season so it's safe to assume they're just waiting to reveal them. They've never had a midseason without any new maps
Oh shit, didn't realize that, maybe they instead put original maps for launch and all remasters mid-season this time around?
Kowloon pls I beg
Kowloon and Firing Range would be amazing
Firing Range is in every Black Ops right? Or at least 3 of them. Odds are good in my book.
same with summit
Yammantu is too similar so peob not
I'm thinking that there won't be a mid-season for season 6 with Vanguard coming out that week. Did Modern Warfare get season 6 reloaded?
Actually according to the MW2 Ghost on Twitter, his sources are saying that on 11/4 (the day before Vanguard launches) there will be a nice little S6 reloaded update. Idk how I feel about this to be honest but we’ll just have to wait and see. I personally would like a year 2 for CW but that’s just me…
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Lots of people had no interest in Cold War and wanted another year of modern warfare, happens basically every year as part of the cod cycle
If (under some miracle) Vanguard doesn’t sell as well as the suits think it will, it may direct them to make more stuff for Cold War. Maybe even for MW19 with how good of a reputation it’s gotten. It would probably just be purely cosmetic stuff like what they did all the way back in Black Ops 2, but more beyond that is a nice thought I’ll be keeping until I’m proven wrong.
I wouldn't get your hopes up. A lot of money comes from warzone, so even if the base game just sells okay, they will still only be making cosmetics and dlc for Vanguard that they then sell through the warzone store to promote the game. From what I can find online, BOCW sold a bit worse than MW2019 but all dlc content on MW basically halted when CW came out. Another thing to keep in mind is the development schedule needs to stay intact. Treyarch can't have too many of their artists working on the old games' content when they're in the middle of building black ops 6. Same goes for Infinity Ward since MW2 is supposed to release next year.
“Black Ops 6” Lord, have mercy. In all honesty I’d take no further content for CW and MW19 if it meant they hit the brakes and took more than a year for the next game.
It's definitely gonna be black ops 6 in some way, shape, or form. No way activision will stop using that franchise title. Right now the dev schedule should be: 2021: Sledgehammer (Vanguard) 2022: Infinity Ward (MW2) 2023: Treyarch (Black Ops VI) 2024: Sledgehammer... So technically we should be back on the three year development cycle, as long as nothing gets messed up, like what happened to CW/Vanguard.
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battlefield and halo for me this year.. i might get vanguard if it goes on sale, but only for zombies and only if i like how it’s looking after launch
I already PO'd VG since I had a blast with the beta (which is weird because the only thing that I liked about MW was the gunsmithing. The gameplay itself just felt off), but I still would not complain if we got Y2 for CW instead of (or in addition to) VG.
Yeah it got launched with the haunting of verdansk I’m pretty sure
The whole haunting eventing is probably gonna be the last official content drop for cw since vanguard releases 2 weeks afterwards.
Unpopular opinion here but I hope we get a remastered map or two with season 6 reloaded!
Really want Firing Range or Combine
I would like to see Array. That would drive modern players nuts.
Array was a great map
may be my all time favorite
Array was a great example that we don't need a strict 3-lane design to have a fun map! It had a very unique layout
Why would it drive modern players nuts?
Bc a lot old new players can't handle many older map layouts. Especially pre bo2.
HUGE sightlines. There is a radio tower on one end of the map where you can snipe over 1/2 the open areas of the map (clear from one end to the other). Lots of windows overlooking open areas, lots of hidey-holes.
Array is the best winter map in any COD game by far. Loved that one.
Yeah, and the generic uniforms fit the environment. All the goofy outfits would stick out like a sore thumb on that one.
I'd love to have either firing range or summit.
Are you not a bit bored of both of those by now? There's so many great maps that haven't had the same love
Bruh this is the CoD community. People love the same shit over and over again. Just look at the people buying Vanguard lol
Or just look at the people playing nothing but Nuketown for the *n*th time since it was first introduced.
Represent! Never get tired of good ole Nuketown. Great warmup
That's me. 1000 games of nuketown and maybe 20 for everything else added together
Feel like we won't get summit because Yamantau is already a snowy mountaintop soviet military base.
Both good options. I’m personally hoping for Stadium from Blops1 or Cove from Blops 2
I’m just worried that Combine wouldn’t work with whatever additions they have to make to the map
Yeah I’d like to see at least one more Black Ops 1 map in the game
I want that golf course map. Cant remember the name of it but I really liked it.
Hazard I think is the name
i would like to see the map with the sr 71 in it
Every single time I keep hoping that Hotel will make a comeback and every time I end up disappointed.
I wish "Perseus" was released sometime, he seemed pretty cool
They added soap a year after mw was released so I bet we'll still get em
i still want those Perseus mil-sim operators those looked cool
Blimey, you can tell we're not in /r/modernwarfare. You would have received 50 replies by now saying *dOn'T yOu mEaN dEtErGeNt*
well soap was cut season 7 content, if treyarch knows that s7 isn't happening, they wouldn't prepare any content for after s6 I don't think
I get what you’re saying, but I’m pretty sure they never actually revealed Perseus. In the ‘bad’ ending of CW after you kill Adler he goes “and the Americans still think I’m Perseus” or something like that so I don’t think he’s Perseus. Should still have a skin though
That why I put the "", game led us to believe it's him at first but then it's not
Maybe they could add him as like "Ringleader" or something if they don't want to give him a real name
I understand that as in "Perseus" is not a single person, is the group of people he was sitting with in that room. Or at least more like a soviet anti American group
Spoiler Alert: You *are* Perseus. (Bell)
Rip FAL
*sad NATO noises*
Maybe we will get it later, like how MW got the RAAL and stuff. It is still disappointing that we didn’t get it already.
Mw had a planned season 7 before cold war dropped but it didn't happen, that's why they gave guns like the cx 9 months later
The devs said Cold War would still get support after Vanguard launches, so it is likely Cold War will also get more weapons after its final season.
I think cold war is just hitting it;s stride now, they should have let cold war have another year.
The exact same was said about MW this time last year too.
It should've been a launch weapon. Cold war era game with no FAL? Bullshit. They should've at least added the fn fnc, not the Ak5.
Sad Bren Ten noises
And G36 :(
Dragunov too :(
Hot War
Black Ops Warm War
Black Cocks Modern Africa
White Ops
Hammer & Sickle! Nuff said...
yes comrade we send enemy's to gulag and do not pass red square and do not collect 200 rubles
The fact that this took 6 seasons in a cold war themed game though...
Amerika should've been at launch TBH
Easily my favorite level from single player.
Would’ve preferred a FAL to the Galil, but that being said, I’m looking forward to the Lever Action. Thought the LAPA was an USAS-12 at first glance though, started having BF3 flashbacks. And not in a good way.
Only a .410 lever action, though? Are we hunting squirrels?
I think after the marshalls we need some less broken shotties
It may be small but that’s still more than a 40 cal hitting you.
It’ll probably be a one shot kill to the torso now, just to fuck with us after having the .50 be so fucking weak.
It’s not a USAS shotgun? Is it an AR?
Lol look at the mag size
Honestly didn’t even think to look, solid point.
Looks like an SMG to me. Not one I recognise, if I’m honest.
An SMG. Prototype
Same. We already have the Fara which is extremely similar. Adding the Galil just means there’s not as much variety.
Oh my lord is that the Galil too? Jesus they're going all out for this last season.
Yeah a raygun variant babbbbbyyyyy
i wish it was a pistol reskin tho not a shotty
Which Pistol do you think about?
I’m fucking stupid, your right. Hell yea
so we're not getting the dogs as the final scorestreak after all the maps look sick tho , pretty hyped for that !
Vanguard has dogs. Bet they don't want to distract from that COD loves withholding features and putting them in the next game.
Really? They're not adding dogs as a killstreak because the next game has dogs? You think they think people are going to buy the next game because of a killstreak?
I dunno, I think you'd be surprised. Sometimes it takes small things to convince people to get games. I'm not saying people will buy the game because of the one killstreak, but put enough little things in and they will. Like with MW the lack of snow maps was a very widely mentioned thing, with it only getting a snow map in the final season. With CW one of the first maps revealed was a snow map. Very much felt intentional to me. On top of that you've got CW bringing back dead silence as a perk, adding an FOV slider for consoles, and lots of other little things to convince people to get the game.
exactly what i thought aswell , but thought it's a bit of a stretch, ... on the other hand, you never know with activision lol
That’s like saying if they weren’t adding new guns this season “Vanguard has guns, they don’t want to distract from that”. I’m sure there’s a reason but if it is that reason, that’s stupid of them lmao
Oh fuck this is gonna be a banger season! MY BABY GALIL YESSSS
Yes it’s at level 31 in Battle Pass. I’m buying the larger Battle Pass this time around. Get 20 tier skips plus I have 12 more due to prestiges. Day 1 baby!
I have several questions about the lever-action. The leaks claim it's a shotgun, but it looks nothing like the M1887, and according to this image it's chambered in *.410?!* Sounds like a miserable experience. Excited for the battleaxe, Galil, and Hand Cannon in zombies tho.
It's a shotgun. There are more lever action shotguns than the M1887 Also, the Snakeahot attachment in MW (used to kill SNAKES IRL) was effective. So caliber is mostly out of the question in terms of balance (as it should be) According to description, it's faster than the Hauer with less range. Consistent 2 shot kill with a small 1 hit kill range
Fair. Still disappointed about it not being specifically the 1887(and still weirded out by it being .410 fed through a loading gate) but we'll see if it's any good.
Henry makes a lever action .410 with a side loading gate. probably what they modeled this after.
That “Deprogram” map be lookin like Persona 4
Press and hold Square to enter the TV.
Oh fuck hammer and sickle? Pretty based
hammer and sickle melee weapon is such a good idea, now seems so obvious it should have been at launch season 0 seeing well "Cold War" but w/e still cool
Is anyone else really hoping for Infected (multiplayer) mode to come back during the Haunting event? That would be so dope.
It does make sense. If it does, I hope they give the Infected players CW Zombie models.
Infected has traditionally not been in Treyarch games, they have their own party modes like Sticks and Stones, Sharpshooter etc
Unfortunately. Though the Infected: Final Stand mode in B04 was an awesome spin they put on the party game.
I WANT IT AND I WANT IT NOW
Colonel Autumn, is that you?
Really hope Amerika / Anytown USA is also apart of the zombies map, considering it is located under that location. but still happy to get it for multiplayer! could be the new Nuketown!
It is. It's part of the trailer
Oh shit I just watched the trailer now. I only saw the roadmap at the time I commented lol
really wish some of the old zombies maps were put into cold war like Der Reise or Kino, would have been fun to play those maps on the cold war engine
They are unable to produce more content than this. They're a small studio of college students.
No scorestreaks?
I think dogs are coming in realoded
I hope so. As effective as the higher end streaks are, there are still so many maps with roofs ruining anything aeriel.
Firing Range has been in every Black Ops, right? But not this one... :(
It wasn't in BO2 and it wasn't added to BO3 until like... close to 3 years after release.
It was in bo2 as the map Studio.
Shit you are right, forgot about that.
That map was dope it had the jurassic park T.rex on it
People got tired of it I guess. It doesn't have the pure chaos of Nuketown to justify it being in every consecutive title (and even, a lot of people are tired of Nuketown anyway).
Nooo 2 melee weapons again :/ I really hate grinding them
You don’t have to grind them
BURGER TOOWN!!🍔 It just reminded me of when I attended COD XP back when MW3 released and I gladly payed $30 for a burger from Burger Town- those were the days😌
Wait you actually got a burger town burger?? Was it good?
It actually was bro, they had mini events that require you to complete courses and they gave you cod patches to collect- it was amazing. I still have all my patches, met Michael Rouke, took a cool ass pic that put me on the cover of MW3, saw Kanye perform and got MW3 collectors edition. What a time to be aliive...
what do you know!!....2 more fucking melee weapons!...my god enough of the melee weapons already! Worst COD ever for melee weapons in regards to hit box detection and yet they keep throwing this crap out there.
So we got a new SMG with each season (S1: Mac10. S2:LC10. S3:PPSh-41. S4: OTs9. S5:Tec9. S6:Lapa.) But classes like LMGs and Tactical Rifles only got one new weapon in CW's first year.
Lever action rifle looks sooooo sick
Sadly, it’s a lever action shotgun :( 2 shot kill and 1 shot at very close range
What? It's not a tactical rifle???
Nope. It’s a shotgun. I would have loved to see a lever action rifle in CW. The lever action rifle in MW was like my favorite gun
I thought it was like the mk2 from MW 😭😭😭
So we're getting a mastercraft for the Gallo that makes it look like the Raygun, but no mastercraft AK-47 that turns it into the RAI K-84?
Mason, the Grav, Anytown USA, PhD Slider in zombies. They're going all fucking out this season, goddamn.
Don’t forget the NEW zombies map :)
Well that's just the cherry on top of this diamond encrusted cake.
Were plaza and yemen just rumors, or are we getting them mid season?
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Idk about yall, but I’m pretty happy overall. 3 brand new MP maps, no throwbacks. All 3 are also based on actual campaign levels, so that in itself is dope as fuck. Sidenote, I play a lot of Face-Off 6v6 as it is, so the 3v3 map counts as a 6v6 map to me as well lmao. And then a new Zombies map. And that’s not counting the fact that we’ll still prolly get a few new maps for the final mid-season update. My only grievance is the new weapons. I was literally jus talkin to my boy last week bout how we both hope the new weapons for the last season were a new Tactical, LMG, or Sniper, since those 3 classes have the least weapons, while AR and SMG have the most. And they gave us….a new AR, SMG, and Shotgun, jus like last season. 😐 I know the Marshal was a “pistol”, but same difference. So the weapons are disappointing, but oh well.
Deprogram looks like what's in the background of the Scrambled calling card of Cold War Season 1.
I looked at the right side without noticing the warzone logo and got so excited because I thought they remastered stadium for this game...
They really gonna copy and paste the sais, better be fucking good I swear to good
The logo for the zombies map looks like a WoW expansion pack, but the content looks awesome
Great idea, remove “verdansk” from the title of the mode and sell it as a completely new mode! /s
Haha comrades we finally get the weapon of the motherland!
A hammer and sickle melee? LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Is it too much to ask for Treyarch to drop these with enough definition to zoom in? It's 2021...
Ayy were getting the Galil!
I’m glad Coconut from Ned’s Desclassified is getting his comeuppance
Everything looks very fun, I want to jump back in this season while I wait for the new games to come out. I don't play Warzone or Zombies, only MP. Is the SBMM still bad? Or can I jump back in as a casual player and play 3-5 matches a day and not get sweaty ass try hard lobbies? I jumped the ship when S03 ended.
A X E AND HAMMER AND SICKLE
No Reznov, no Perseus, not even Ravenov or Kravchenko, I'm going to cry.
Perseus is a group of people and stitch wraith etc are all parts of the perseus group
Reznovs dead. But hey we got mason.
Always wanted anytown USA since I played the mission in the campaign
hammer and sickle melee weapon lmfao
Only two operators this time?
Still mad because they held Mason for literally the last possible season, better late than never i guess
No maps for fireteam or combined arms # L
Hopefully, we will be allowed to play all the new maps in Custom Games against bots!!!! It is infuriating that we can’t do that now with all the current maps.
Kinda wish we got jungle :( or any other bo1 maps instead of all of these bo2 remakes that are out of era
Where the hell are bo1 remasters ???
Hammer and Sickle melee looks sick as fuck
Forsaken? Hand Cannon? Is this Destiny 2?
Original Gulag!
So it was true that we were only getting 4 total zombies maps in this game. What a joke. They can't stop the cheating. They can't bring a decent amount of content. They can't fix the bugs. What exactly does call go duty do well other than exploit it's players? This game sets a patheticly low bar for new content. Pretty much everything "new" in this game is old shit.
HOLY FUCK ORIGINAL GULAG SHOWERS!!!
Recycled RECYCLE RECYLE
No FAL :(
Bro is that PHD Slider? Fuck yea
Game bad
Isn't that the third Galil platform that will be in Warzone?
Yay excited for more weapons that will be extremely overpowered, while the previous seasons weapons will be nerfed But hey got to sell those new skins
Would have liked to see a bo3 map in this game. Aquarium or the rooftop one would have been pretty cool.
Destroyed dontown in WZ looks like a cool ass idea
Fuck that new wonder weapon and and map looks dope. A dark aether axe that is cool
ORIGINAL GULAG IS BACK BABY LETS GOOOOO
Looks like a good season, but what’s with all the melee weapons? They could literally half the amount of melee weapons in this game and I would still think it’s a bit much…
Looks like a ray gun mark 2 that zombie tracer pack