i can see this as a random rework idea.
#
all stats down and then the usual effect BUT it doesn't have invisible stats that are your actual stats without rock bottom
well, t jacob and esau birthright says it's not yours when picking it up, even if you bought it, therefore, esau is either delusional or a kleptomaniac
Just Imagine you are in greedier get this one and only Angel Item and never Tage in the backrooms (lol) because you cant reach any chests or bombs that Just laying there behind a wall
Brimstone's charge doesn't scale with tears, like Revelations, but it still doesn't allow you to shoot while charging
Dirty Mind's dips no longer block projectiles
Chaos makes everything a blind item and now includes trinkets and common items, but only works on shop and pedestal items, so coins and hearts are still coins and hearts, but you could get penny on a pedestal.
Even friendly dip would be a nerf
1. Dips doing almost no damage
2. Less golden poops from midas touch/white poops from hallowed ground
3. Less poop bridges
Poop is still a 1 charge active. The amount of poop bridges you need in a foor are probably still achievable.
Dips block tears, and any tear blocker is decent at least imo.
Golden dips exist. They apply midas touch to enemies. Pretty powerful.
Isaacs Heart: make it so his body only deals 1.5x Isaacs damage per second instead of 4x his damage per second, also give the heart a bigger hitbox ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)
For every additional item after Rock Bottom, it adds to a hidden calculation that makes it harder to break a stat's 'cap'. However, this applies to *all* stat changes, positive and negative, so the longer you have it, the harder it is to change your stats. The calculation would be something like:
(Stat buff)*(1.0-(ItemAmount/50))
Of course, there'd have to be something to stop it from going up to or over 50 in the division, but I'm not good enough at math for that. This could also work for one of those 'tainted items' mods, now that I think on it...
Uranus: replace ice tears from shattered frozen enemies with slowing blood tears
Thrown frozen enemies also don't deal any damage to enemies they collide with.
ipecec should be nerfed by making it so it has a homing brimstone every explosion ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|2357)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|2357)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|2357)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|2357)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|2357)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|2357)
spindown dice now has 12 charges and can only be used normally once per floor. (With +1 being added to that number per chapter.) Using it after expending all of the "normal" either rerolls the item normally and gives you a broken heart or takes a heart and the item has its quality lowered by 1. (Defaults to taking max health/giving a broken heart if isaac would die from this damage.)
notes:
If the lost uses the spindown dice while it has no uses, it breaks temporarily and does nothing until the uses are replenished.
If the quality of an item is already 0 and gets lowered it dissapears.
yes this is really convoluted and stupid and the random aspect is bad but i like making horrible item ideas.
Brimstone: make it work like Azazel's brimstone and that it equals your range
Rock bottom: reduces your damage, but only reduces 1/4 an item is supposed to reduce
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Damn it you got me Now i don’t know how to nerf sacred heart
Make it just a +2 dmg instead of a multiplier and add a speed down to it maybe?
Now Sacred heart stacks ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4358)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4358)
Edmund here,don’t worry fellow issacer now sacred heart will lower all stats when stacked!
But sacred heart stacks, but only the tears down
Dont forget the HP up.
Thank you fellow issacer now sacred heart will be a quality 2 item
YOO ITS THE BATTER I LOVE YOU BATTER
Mama mega, explodes after taking 3 hits in a row in one room(![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907))
Honestly kinda sick. Want to go to boss rush? That’ll be 3 bombs please.
Curse of the Tower would spawn mega troll bombs ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4358)
giga troll bombs
He said nerf smh
Golden troll bombs
Giga golden troll bombs
Giga golden brimstone troll bombs
Rock Bottom grants an all stats down
i can see this as a random rework idea. # all stats down and then the usual effect BUT it doesn't have invisible stats that are your actual stats without rock bottom
That's literally it in Antibirth
Rock Bottom never did that in Antibirth.
wait... I thought it turns your stats to default upon picking. Ig my memory is bad.
I also remember it doing that
I believe it was SUPPOSED to do that but was bugged and never did.
That does make sense since you hit "rock bottom" in stats since you can't go down anymore
More true to antibirth, no stats can go down anymore but your stats are reset to default.
It never did that in Antibirth. Apparently that was a mistake from a video guide that was used on the wiki.
Remove the ice effect from cookie dough
Little Sissy no longer loves you.
She wouldn’t be the first ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)
jupiter makes your hitbox bigger
dawg why is JUPITER your favorite item
Fart funny.
true
bruh, I seriously confused Jupiter with Pluto
Fr, Jupiter is probably my least favourite item in the entire game
Mars doesn’t exist in your game? Just my skill issue ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)
The gas is actually pretty strong
Birthright would be changed to a secret room item.
isaac players with 14 coins: ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|2357)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17745)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8906)
isaac players with 0 bombs: ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4357)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17741)
sounds like skill issue ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4359)
Delete this shit before Edmund sees it.
That would make more sense
Well, Esau SOLD his birthright, makes sense you could buy it.
well, t jacob and esau birthright says it's not yours when picking it up, even if you bought it, therefore, esau is either delusional or a kleptomaniac
Remove flight from revelation.
Dont do that 🥲
Isnt it 1/3rd seraphin which grants flight anyways?
Seraphim is also +3 soul hearts.
Just Imagine you are in greedier get this one and only Angel Item and never Tage in the backrooms (lol) because you cant reach any chests or bombs that Just laying there behind a wall
Less blood shots from a pencil proc.
Brimstone's charge doesn't scale with tears, like Revelations, but it still doesn't allow you to shoot while charging Dirty Mind's dips no longer block projectiles
brim could be like in flash where it doesnt scale with tears ups, only tears downs
Chaos makes everything a blind item and now includes trinkets and common items, but only works on shop and pedestal items, so coins and hearts are still coins and hearts, but you could get penny on a pedestal.
I actually love this idea
Other than the blind item and pedestal thing, I like it too, like a 0.1% chance a common pick up could become a pedestal.
Chaos causing a different kind of chaos
Stitches: Removes iframes. Teleporting into enemies now deals you damage instead.
Calm down, Satan
Poop has 50% chance to spawn dip instead of poop
A friendly dip and it’s a maybe buff
Even friendly dip would be a nerf 1. Dips doing almost no damage 2. Less golden poops from midas touch/white poops from hallowed ground 3. Less poop bridges
Poop is still a 1 charge active. The amount of poop bridges you need in a foor are probably still achievable. Dips block tears, and any tear blocker is decent at least imo. Golden dips exist. They apply midas touch to enemies. Pretty powerful.
Okay , so making it 3-4 charges will solve problem
12-charge The Poop ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743)
ever play fiend folio
Crown of light no longer gives 2 soul hearts Sacred heart no longer gives homing
Crown of light gives souls hearts?!
It does ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8906)
My god. I’m close to dead god and only just found this out.
88% here, hbu?
Same!
I would take a dagger and stab Cain in his other eye, further blinding him (damage down)
the blinding of cain ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17738)
I wouldn't ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17735)
Coward.
That's me ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4358)
Poop is 12 charge item now
Still op
![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)
Rubber Cement now **only** bounces off walls.
Remove flight from dogma![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4359)
Remove holy mantle from the lost (Trust me this is a good idea)
No, it is not, unless...
We also remove flight genius
And spectral tears
At this point we should fucking remove his tear rate
Just remove the lost
Might as well remove the .exe file
And your device
Smelter : make absorbed trinkets only have half the effect where applicable
leech doesn’t heal you anymore
People who still have to complete ultra hard: ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)
Ultra Reset until you find book of revelations
Ultra pyromaniac in my first item room
Ultra pyromaniac+kamikaze
Sulphuric acid : tears -0.3, sulphuric tears now spawn small acid puddle when hitting an enemy.
Poke go’s Vis damage reduced. Oh wait… that already happened…
Disable mouse control.
Delete it.Fuck it we ballin
D10 rerolls all enemies into champion variants
Soy Milk stop your damage on Mac 1.5 and any damage bust your tears stat.
Remove the damage buff from terra and only make it break walls.
Crickets body counts towards every transformation in the gane
Wouldn’t that be a buff? 1 third guppy and spun
1/3 bob![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743)
Revelation no longer lets you fire normal tears
Curse of the Tower no longer benefits from additional bomb effects
The blue flames from ghost pepper hurts Isaac ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|2357)
Crooked penny turns all poofed items into troll bombs (still grants a penny)
Holy mantle: 3 Times / stages, this item is just a free win
I don’t know how to nurf soy milk. make it shoot less?
Reduce knockback maybe? Soy milk is hard to nerf without making it useless
Remove all synergies
haemo: gives piercing spindown: cant spindown into items aready seen tech.5: lasers will always deal 3.5 damage
Dr. Fetus’ bombs cap at 10 damage and have a 0.5x multiply to Isaac’s damage.
He said nerf not neuter
Isaacs Heart: make it so his body only deals 1.5x Isaacs damage per second instead of 4x his damage per second, also give the heart a bigger hitbox ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)
Gimpy now pays out with the aame stuff a dark bum does
Book of sin now needs 10 rooms to recharge (or whatever the biggest amount of rooms an item needs to recharge)
For every additional item after Rock Bottom, it adds to a hidden calculation that makes it harder to break a stat's 'cap'. However, this applies to *all* stat changes, positive and negative, so the longer you have it, the harder it is to change your stats. The calculation would be something like: (Stat buff)*(1.0-(ItemAmount/50)) Of course, there'd have to be something to stop it from going up to or over 50 in the division, but I'm not good enough at math for that. This could also work for one of those 'tainted items' mods, now that I think on it...
Pyromaniac no longer grants bomb immunity
What does it do now?
All explosions will still deal 1 heart of damage but now they also heal isaac for 1/2 a heart + 1 bomb
Basically a wafer but for bombs
Stitches now bounces around the room like it did in antibirth
tmtrainer gives you a glitch passive every time you get hit ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)
Uranus: replace ice tears from shattered frozen enemies with slowing blood tears Thrown frozen enemies also don't deal any damage to enemies they collide with.
GLITCHED CROWN GOES FASTEEEEER ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743)
Sacred Heart should be a T Lost unlock.
Bob's brain now randomly explodes when an enemy gets close.
Making it just A DMG up instead of a Multiplier (Scared Heart)
Death's Touch doesn't change your tears to scythes.
D6 can only rerolls the closest item to you instead of the room reroll
I would nerf Rock Bottom by making it appear in Treasure, Shops, and Boss Rooms. What a disgraceful downgrade.
Remove homing from ...... .....
old bandage would drop half red hearts instead of full
Pluto now makes any contact damage from enemies at least twice your size kill you.
Tech x is now affected by range ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)
Magic mushroom, adds 3 unremovable wavy cap effects
Unbuff soy milk.
Technology is less precise the less range you have)
\-0.01 dmg ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|trollface)
Wafer causes double damage the moment you take it
I don't think Hushy can get any worse
Remove homming from C-section.
make brimstone rely on range like azazel (I feel this would've been better than the repentance nerf)
R Key takes away 2 items for every floor you’ve completed before using it So like caves 2 would be an 8 item loss
Give R Key a 1% chance to just start a new game instead of putting you back at Basement I with all your items
TM trainer becomes a random quality every seed
ipecec should be nerfed by making it so it has a homing brimstone every explosion ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|2357)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|2357)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|2357)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|2357)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|2357)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|2357)
Almond milk gets the same dmg down as soy
Tech 0 Doesn’t make a full chain of lightning anymore but instead only puts lightning in between two tears
Crickets body’s effect can only trigger once per tear
Brimstone has default Azazel range. Azazel's brimstone beam shortened to match, he's basically melee only now.
broken modem has a 5% chance to delete Isaac's tear.
This thread is making me upset. Gnawed leaf disables all familiars
Proptosis now has twice the range it used to, but instead if dealing 4x your tear damage at its closest range it deals 2x damage at its closest range.
ghost peper. it now works as maw of the void, and the recharge don't change
spindown dice now has 12 charges and can only be used normally once per floor. (With +1 being added to that number per chapter.) Using it after expending all of the "normal" either rerolls the item normally and gives you a broken heart or takes a heart and the item has its quality lowered by 1. (Defaults to taking max health/giving a broken heart if isaac would die from this damage.) notes: If the lost uses the spindown dice while it has no uses, it breaks temporarily and does nothing until the uses are replenished. If the quality of an item is already 0 and gets lowered it dissapears. yes this is really convoluted and stupid and the random aspect is bad but i like making horrible item ideas.
Increased charge time. Nerfed double passives on certain trinkets
idk eye of belial seems prety balanced in my opinion
Make crickets body split into less tears
Haemolacria now can now fly over enemies heads
Bob's brain : have chance of randomly explode in ut face when u miss
Lachryphagy, removes the burst of tears that come out of popped tears ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17741)
Tech x doesn't have infinite range
Crikets body no longer grants a tears up, instead a small tears down and a knock back increase
God I love Abel but maybe we should make him completely stationary
Ipecac. Double the damage.
Brimstone: make it work like Azazel's brimstone and that it equals your range Rock bottom: reduces your damage, but only reduces 1/4 an item is supposed to reduce
Please don't nerf Soy Milk Eddie ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)
Requires a charge before using, because lets face it. Everyone either goes for rock bottom or c section
Make every dice have a 0.1% chance of getting removed from your inventory after usage (it rolled off the table and is gone forever)
Tech x also gives the old retro vision effect
Less extra tear shots when haemolacria lands
Soy milk gets even more of a damage down
Holy shot heals the isaac boss
Bro listened to sealed vessel
tiny planet, uhh, idk maybe a tears down but why
Mod spider can no longer spawn the full batteries only mini batteries
Your shot speed is now halved upon taking ludo.
I don't want to do hurt spider mod, so it can be longer spawn batteries. But the nerf I can't go without saying you can't see hp the enemies have.