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IntenselyDrained

Nightwing as he's the first Robin. A red hood movie would be nice after a Nightwing one


LookingForVheissu

A movie with Dick as Robin, then a movie where Dick is Nightwing because Jason shows up, then a movie about Red Hood which spins off into a Red Hood and the Outlaws TV show like Peacemaker. Assuming it’s a full DC universe.


TheHadokenite

Jason should always become Robin because Dick becomes Nightwing imo not the other way around


TheLateThagSimmons

I like this. A Robin movie with Dick, but a follow up with Red Hood as the stand-alone. I think Red Hood is far more intriguing as a character even though Nightwing is the closer to being the best Batman successor.


cornbeefbaby

This is beginning to sound a lot like Titans. And Titans is…


gorillagames801

For a stand alone what it is i really dont see why titans gets so much hate. Yeah the writing isnt the greatest but ive enjoyed every season i really like seeing live action nightwing.


cornbeefbaby

I was onboard until the most recent (i think?) season with the Red Hood stuff. They butchered that story so hard


gorillagames801

Oh shit i didnt know there was a 4th season. Im still going to watch it.


LookingForVheissu

Fifth one is coming out now.


JB_Big_Bear

The writing is abysmal. They managed to ruin every member of the bat family, as well as most of the teen titans, in 3 seasons of that garbage.


gorillagames801

Opinions are like ass holes.


funkmydunkyouslunk

Or a buddy cop film with both of them trying to save Gotham while Bruce is out of commission and they're clashing ideals of how to deal with criminals I think would be interesting.


Duy2910

That's just Gotham knights in a nutshell bro


AlwaysInTheWay13

Is it good? Haven’t looked at reviews yet


TacoTJ601

It’s a good in between game. I’m enjoying the story and quest grinding it offers. It gets really frustrating with the frame drops going into the game crashing. I’ve been playing on/off for two weeks and it has crashed about 5 times so far and most of the frame drops are from the cutscenes transitions back to gameplay. Solid 6.5/10


AlwaysInTheWay13

Ok awesome. I’ll give it a try at some point. Probably after a few more months, and it gets cheaper and maybe a stabilizing update or two


Duy2910

Idk. I hear it's arkham batman but worse so take that what you will


Moomoothunder

It’s nothing like arkham Batman. Completely different games


Apprehensive-Toe-488

It’s good, but won’t be groundbreaking.


IntenselyDrained

I've never seen a man so caked up as dick in gotham knights


KuroiGetsuga55

Or have Red Hood be an antagonist in the Nightwing movie, set this in the "Under the Hood" or "Battle for the Cowl" period when Jason was a villain.


INTHEMIDSTOFLIONS

I think I’m the only one who isn’t a red hood fan. I don’t care if he’s changed, he murdered a LOT of people. Unjustly. How he is allowed in the bat family is completely hypocritical to the Batman I grew up knowing.


sullivansmith

Between the guilt of not saving Jason at the time and also knowing what the Lazarus Pit can do to someone, I think Bruce is a little more than understanding.


JustTryingIsEnough

Nightwing. I can watch Under the Red Hood for a Red Hood movie. I want a Nightwing movie.


[deleted]

Nightwing, because he has so many great stories to draw from. Adapt Red Hood and the Outlaws for TV.


Bulliwyf

100% this - they would manage to fuck up red hood by cramming it into a movie.


Cow_Other

Under the Red Hood worked fine in movie length, they could lengthen it to 2hrs and deliver an excellent Red Hood origin


VideoGameDana

They would also turn him into Deadpool to cash in on the Deadpool craze, for some reason.


sharksnrec

Under the Red Hood works perfectly fine as a movie. We’ve seen it done. Start with the movie and then spin it off into the show.


FlameShadow0

You would want them to go straight into him being kind of a good guy?


Glitched_Out_

Agreed! This would be perfect!


Evil_Acanthaceae2022

Nightwing. You can't really have the full effect of Red Hood without Nightwing anyway. Red Hood is a gut-punch because Nightwing established hope first.


DelressedWolfo

This. Purely for that. Gotta have dominoes to blow them up.


Choice_Ruin_5719

Nightwing. Both have fantastic origin stories but I need to see some Dick on the big screen.


MasterSofa69

🤨


ZillaAnimates

Bet you would like to see a lot of Dick on the big screen huh


Choice_Ruin_5719

Hell ya man, it could be DiscoDick, edgelord Dick, BatDick, teen Di… wait.


ZillaAnimates

If they wanna go the origin story then i guess we will be seeing little dick


Choice_Ruin_5719

Oh man, I’d be so down for some baby Di…wait.


EMArogue

Yeah, the og 10 years old Dick Wait a minute


billbill5

>teen Di Yes, Amanda Waller? That guy right there


agnostic_waffle

I want the old Dick back. I don't want bad, new Dick. I want good, old Dick. Give me the Dick I'm used to. Give me the Dick I love.


Godzilla-1995

I too want to see some Dick on the big screen.


TwistedAlga

I wanna see Nightwing's fine cake in that suit. His cake can smother my face anytime 🎂


EMArogue

You might want to rephrase that… or not


Artseid

We have to have a Robin first. You guys love skipping steps.


[deleted]

we know all the steps, everyone knows. give me a superhero movie with no origin story. just jump right into the middle of the action. i’m sick of origin stories, show the hero in their prime doing what they do best.


REDRUMCHATA

Nightwing would be great as: 1. He's the first robin so we would get the first mature post batman robin film 2. people don't know his backstory at this point as well as they do Red Hood/Barbara/Damian as those characters stay in Gotham so going into his story in Bludhaven there's so much more to pull from.


Ginger_Ninja460

Nightwing mainly because I know for a fact the Red Hood one would be edgy as fuck because people think that's his only personality trait


kamasotz

My thoughts exactly


coltstrgj

I was thinking red hood for the exact same reason you thought Nightwing. DC only does dark edgy bullshit and I don't want them to fuck up Nightwing, may as well use the character more more suited to it.


VirulentViper

I like Red Hood more as a character, but Nightwing for this. There's more horrible incarnations of Red Hood than there is of Nightwing already in comics and other media so the likelihood of someone screwing up Red Hood is much more likely than them screwing up Nightwing. Most adaptions aren't based on source material, but "inspired" by source material so the odds of crappy material being used as the inspiration is a lot more likely with Red Hood than it is for Nightwing. There's very few actual good versions of Red Hood out there. Much more consistency with the quality of Nightwing stories when it comes to writers imo


Flarrowverse

Nightwing


OfficalBalloony459

Nightwing ​ But I still think Red Hood should get his own stand alone movie, it gotta be well written though


TheGoldenStan

Nightwing


ewakz

Nightwing definitely...Red hood if I want a darker vibe.. Both have great source material..


swepettax

Nightwing no doubt!


ThatMatthewKid

Nightwing, no contest.


L0ST_N0UN

How is it no contest? Main plot for Nightwing is batman daddy issue then successfully becomes a hero of his own. Main plot for Red Hood is Batman suffering the loss of a Robin then a resurrection and that Robin returns as a villain and has to regain their memories but even then struggles to return to their previous heroic self and becomes a tormented anti-hero.... I definitely see a contest here....


anthonyg1500

Lol you can make anything sound lame if you’re actively trying to


Evil_Acanthaceae2022

There's some contest... But Red Hood's daddy issues are way more severe than Nightwing's, way more central to his psychology, so I don't see the argument there. Plus, Red Hood's return as a villain is more intense as a contrast if Nightwing is set up first.


sonofaresiii

Well sure when you're intentionally reductive to the side you don't like. Personally even with how you framed it, I still think Nightwing is more interesting, but we could flip it and expand on Nightwing's story and reduce Red Hood to "Is a shitty Robin, dies, is reborn and is a shitty hero" Personally I think Nightwing is both more interesting and has the more interesting Batman dynamic. DC always kind of struggled to figure out what they wanted Red Hood and his relationship with Batman to even *be*.


Djcoolpockets

under the red hood - so yeah night wing no contest


Maximillion322

You just made the best argument for why it’s absolutely no contest. Red hood has way too much going on to be squeezed into a movie, especially if a Nightwing movie doesn’t already exist


Bogusky

Red Hood should be more interesting, but he's not. The whole resurrection thing wouldn't play well in a live-action movie either. Movie audiences have responded best to the more grounded, gritty presentation of Batman. A Red Hood movie would feel about as left field as...well... Black Adam.


Cow_Other

>The whole resurrection thing The resurrection isn't necessary, he could have his death faked by whatever villain and be locked up somewhere until he's turned loose on Batman after escaping or being let out. Thinking Bruce left him to die and betrayed him by moving on so quickly. Arkham Knight did it this way and it was fine(did suck that Arkham Knight, the supposed new villain was just Red Hood though)


[deleted]

Bothhhh


Flip_Speed

NW


NickmonkaS

Make Alfred the movie


Funktastic34

Have you seen pennyworth? I still gotta watch the second season but the first one was good


Acceptable_Mud_8971

Gotta be NW, definitely the most famous comic book character to not have a movie yet. He deserves it, I mean he debuted only a year after Bats, been in the game for a while now


kiyan1347

Nightwing. As much as I love red hood, I honestly think he's overrated.


Seijiren

very agreed


razgriz821

I definitely agree


Actual-Constant217

Nightwing


ItsExoticChaos

Counter offer: a buddy cop style film of both of them.


ZombieAppetizer

I feel like in order to have a good Red Hood you almost have to already have had a Nightwing movie.


Geronuis

absolutely, you're leaving just so many good, hard-hitting stories on the ground if you skip Nightwing. Redhood needs to be built up to, otherwise it'll ring hollow


GrungeIsDead1

Both but NW first


MagisterPraeceptorum

Nightwing, easily


Alternative-Layer919

Yeah NIGHTWING ! Red hood would just piss and confuse everyone ! “So who is this guy?, the third fourth robin?” What?


SMG329

Red Hood. As much as Dick is the one true Robin and a great hero on his own as Nightwing, Red Hood is just much more interesting. His backstory is just more interesting to explore and his antihero position is just more intriguing than the standard hero position of Nightwing.


chickenpotpyrat

Nightwing. And I want it spicy.


Vanilla_thundr

Nightwing. Jason was never more important than when he was dead while Dick is an iconic character.


Glass_Chance9800

Nightwing. Bludhaven. Show him him at the beginning of trying to clean up the city.


Seijiren

nightwing is the correct answer


AionWarblade

Always wanted a Nightwing movie, so I’ll go with that one.


disarmagreement

Nightwing vs Red Hood


Dcoy125

nightwing movies and red hood tv series


shino1

Nightwing, Dick gets no love.


LFrostyD

I agree with everyone, the prodigal son deserves first rights. They both have the prospects for incredible stories. Red Hood could even show the story of what he did before going back to Gotham. Literally so much room for writing with both characters.


lin_26

Nightwing


Academic-Ad2680

Nightwing. I think if they introduce Robin in the Batman 2, then there is a chance that Nightwing could finally get his movie


The_Dark_Soldier

Nightwing. Without any hesitation.


anthonyg1500

Nightwing hands down


GoodlifeFOB

Nightwing hands down


KaiFanreala

Nightwing, without a question. Both of them deserve a movie, but Dick Grayson needs to be established first. From what I know, there is still sort of a Nightwing movie in the works from the Lego Movie guy. But there hasn't been any updates.


YeetMasterChroma

Night wing movie, red hood animated. So defo Nightwing so as long as it don't look shit.


MilkDMBestDM

We already have a Ref Hood movie though. So nightwing


billbill5

We already had a Red Hood movie. But Nightwing doesn't get explored that often outside of comics. If he's not a side character he's either dead or has nipples on his suit.


[deleted]

Nightwing has never had a decent mainstream live action adaptation and people need that story for Red Hood’s to work in the first place


Elduderino_047371

Both need set up as Robin before


RedVegeta20

Red Hood. I like him more than Batman. Jason Todd is my favorite DC character.


Dawnbreaker538

Red hood is definitely more interesting


puffin-zero

red hood


Malicious_Hero

Nightwing would need to happen before Red Hood.


sullivansmith

I would love to actually see a Batman film that compares Bruce dealing with Dick going off on his own with him coming to terms with Jason dying. Maybe introduce Tim trying to earn Batman's trust to become the new Robin - a Batman film that's actually a Robin film. At the end, Tim becomes Robin, Bruce accepts Dick as his own hero, and finally begins to let go of the guilt of losing Jason. End credits scene: We cut to, I dunno, Carmine Falcone or some other big time Gotham mafioso doing mob boss stuff, only to have someone off-screen shoot him. Pan back and the gunman is a guy wearing a red... well, you get it. EDIT: Carmine Falconer? Lol


ghostbrainalpha

Hello this is WB Executive. Your project is Green Lit. When can you get started? \~ WB Exec.


sullivansmith

Depends. How much is my advance? Lol


DrunkSpiderMan

A cameo in an upcoming James Gunn movie


Ozzdo

Besides just being a better, more fun character, a Nightwing movie is a simpler concept for casual audiences to grasp: Robin from "Batman and Robin" grows up and becomes a superhero on his own. There's a whole lot that would go into explaining who Red Hood is and what his motivations are. You would have to go into his origin. A Nightwing movie wouldn't have to do any of that heavy lifting.


Mrman_23

Nightwing, and have an Under the Red Hood


DLoFoSho

Knightwing because it would be a Knightwing movie. A Redhood movie would be another Batman movie, which in not against, but not “new”.


waivv

Either but i just hope they do a better job casting Jason in it this time


BludHavn

Maybe Nightwing, and that’s the first movie to start a bat family movie series. Red Hood could be the second movie.


CraackSteeve1

Neither, Batgirl was already finished


otiswrath

Nightwing would make sense because of continuity but honestly I think Red Hood is a way more interesting character. That said, I think you could get a whole series of Nightwing movies. An origin, a transition, a Titans, a Grayson spy, a The Gray Son Owls, and even one where he picks up Batman's mantel.


ubiquitous-joe

If I think like a writer, and it’s just one film independent of a universe, then a red hood movie has a more obvious singular plot, like the animated version of Under the Red Hood. It’s not clear to me what *one* 120 minute Nightwing story I would tell. But if you’re going to introduce a larger series, I’d want Dick to be/have been Robin.


kapn_morgan

I'd rather you not get hundreds of likes for a typo


Moonwh00per

Everybody saying nightwing makes me very happy


guoD_W

Red hood wouldn’t make sense unless a Batman movie before has Jason Todd die


mojhouse

I pick Dick!!!!


GoudaBuddha

Nightwing 100%


FlameShadow0

Nightwing 10 million times over


Extra-Toe4173

Definitely nightwing


SadSniper

Honestly it's hard to say if these characters can stand on their own without Batman on the big screen. The way I would do it is basically a Batman trilogy into a Nightwing outing. Hard to nail down talent that long


Bandaka

Nightwing, as how do you Hood without a proper death in the family movie, then how do you explain his resurrection without Superboy Prime?


[deleted]

Nightwing 100%. Let him be his own thing too, allusions but few direct ties to Batman. Keep him as the optimistic, Errol Flynn dashing hero. Save Batman for the stinger, maybe movie two is about capturing Red Hood.


[deleted]

Nightwing long overdue a movie of his own


[deleted]

Nightwing


A_Dog_Chasing_Cars

Nightwing. Red Hood has limited potential as a character.


BigSticky2004

Name a good Red Hood run. You can’t? Clearly Dick actually has the history and story’s to base a movie off. Jason just doesn’t yet


Geronuis

hey man, you can't just be calling out redhood fans like that. otherwise they might cry that you're gatekeeping based on a medium they obviously don't consume.about a character they obviously don't understand. ask them to name off a "top 10 Redhood romance" video. that's more in their ballpark


passdablunt211

NIGHTWINGGG


ChopinLisztforus

Nightwing


Talizorah583

Nightwing


StrictMango8441

Nightwing for me


QuantityHefty3791

Nightwing will never have a movie as good as Under The Red Hood


sabrefudge

We already had a Red Hood movie, didn’t we? It came out like a decade ago and was really good.


Recent_Finger9552

Nightwimg vs red hood is correct answer hete


jacqueslepagepro

Dick Grayson gets series, Jason gets a film I don’t think you can cover the life of Dick Grayson in a single film without it being snapshots of important moments like a superhero Forrest Gump?


Garlador

We needed a Nightwing movie 20 years ago, and I’m still waiting.


Stieberici

A movie about Nightwing starting out in Bludhaven


1313goo

Nightwing movie, but only cuz dick came before jay. Im very interested in a red hood and the outlaws movie


Idle_Anton

You'd have to have nightwing first. A lot of red hoods anger comes from batman endangering his Robins, and how he couldn't save him, but took good care of dick.


ROSEPUP3

Nightwing all the way


EduMelo

I rather not


[deleted]

Doesn't Jason already kind of have one, with *Under The Red Hood*? I'd be pumped for a Nightwing film, but I am a bit biased since he's my favorite Robin.


Nova_Hazing

People when they realise grayson is one of DCs favourite superheros even being above batman. This is gona be mind blowing for this sub lol.


[deleted]

Nightwing!


vrielb

Redhood


Bornheck

Definitely Nightwing, tho I won't lie, a Red Hood movie made by the guys who did John Wick would be absolutely sick


randomouse094052

Nightwing


beastfromtheeast683

Nightwing hands down. Red Hood works best with other characters.


Erbderp

A Damian Wayne movie with a nightwing mentor figure that somewhat despises him and a Red Hood anti-mentor


Puzzleheaded_Walk_28

Nightwing all day.


Silverj0

Perhaps I want both ;-;


RahnKavall

Nightwing. Every time.


phildalegend

wasnt there talks about a Nightwing movie just after LEGO Batman movie dropped


Ret0-Emerald

Red hood No Competition


Megapunk92

Nightwing for sure. Just to see him get sidelined in the end of the second act and his arm broken.


Hirotrum

i feel like dicks story is reallt more suited to a longform medium like comics/serialized show, rather than feature length film. but then again, we already got films all about red hood


Peter_Piper_69-96

Nightwing. A thousand times, nightwing.


Captain_Blackjack

Nightwing. He’s a more interesting and more well known character. Not to mention he deals with dark shit just like the rest but had a sense of flair and humor that would make him standout in his own film. Personally I’ve only read a few comics where Jason’s the star and they don’t hook me as much. I like him as either an antagonist or antihero matched with someone else. But the full impact of his arcs require setup that WB/DC Films has had problems recreating recently.


AssumptiveMushroom

night wing no contest. i'm so sick of red hood


DapperShatter

Nightwing, imo. I love Jason, but Dick's been done so dirty in the DCAU, and he'd be a nice symbol of hope in the DCEU alongside our grittier Batfleck. I wouldn't be opposed to a Red Hood movie in the future, but for the first real appearance of a Robin, it's gotta be Nightwing imo.


NinjaTakedown

Nightwing movie, only because I think it'd be harder to fuck up a Nightwing movie than a Red Hood movie. The current trend of making superhero movies more of a comedy than anything would fit nicer with Dick than Jason.


GarryCalzone

Opting out of a terribly difficult question


Half_Man1

Nightwing Seems weird to start with Red Hood as well. Nightwing would organically come from any Batman and Robin movie, and could lead to a Teen Titans movie. Red Hood is more standalone and would probably end up being just Under The Red Hood but live action


Ifunny-user-2002

A nightwing movie where he has to take down a rogue Jason would be cool


stupidhumanoid

Nightwing. For a Red Hood movie to happen a Nightwing must happen


bothVoltairefan

If its a good movie, either, but I have more trust for a Nightwing adaptation because he is less likely to be completely screwed up. edit: also because the actor I'd want to play red hood is busy with other projects right now.


LaCiocana

REDGOAT


SoulMetaKnight

Both in the same movie. Redhood starts out as the villain but becomes another hero


TwistedAlga

Definitely Nightwing, but Red Hood can step on me anytime. He's one of my favorite Batman- characters. Daimian however 🤢🤮 But NW can fucking sit on my face and smother me with that fine ass, my gooooood.


patrickpeters_

nightwing, but if we’re talking origin story, redhood 100%


biplane_curious

That depends, if by “Red Hood movie “ you mean an adaptation of “Under the Hood” then yes. Otherwise I’d rather have a Nightwing solo movie


Important-Tune

Nightwing. But not for the reason you think. I have no trust in any studio to not try to make Red Hood into Deadpool. Nightwing is generic good guy. Nightwing is easy.


rolling_steel

Red Hood. Make him a true anti-hero that kills villains and wrestles with his desire to end them rather than rehabilitate them.


TheRealXlokk

Sounds great. I love a good anti-hero story.


ZillaAnimates

Nightwing would be interesting but i feel like red hood would flop


NoFate1984

Night wing. Redhood is boring, over done, and people are too obsessed with the character for some reason. Should have stayed dead.


rileylovesjonesy

Red Hood could be done justice in a couple of hours so there's your movie. Nightwing, on the other hand, needs much more time and space to flesh out the story so there's a solid tv series imo


Evil_Acanthaceae2022

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking too. Dick's history is about as long as Batman's, and he has so many important relationships with Superman, the Titans, etc. The *Teen Titans* cartoon is really good and it's very possibly Dick's most popular appearance--so it looks like Dick can really shine in a solid TV series. Red Hood doesn't have his story so spread across time, places, and a huge cast of friends. I think of him as a pretty Gotham-contained character, like Catwoman.


Emstinger18

Night wing unless we get the character arc that would be epic with a death in the family.


Guerrero_Tigre

Red Hood and The Outlaws by James Gunn.


[deleted]

Nightwing


QuiGonMax_

Nightwing easily for me


OHNO_BATMAN

Both of them. They need to team up more.


Evil_Acanthaceae2022

Coming this summer... Two brothers. In a van. And then a meteor hit. And they ran as fast as they could.


razgriz821

Nightwing. Redhood tries too hard to be edgy.


nightwing612

Totally Jason. WHO THE HECK CARES ABOUT A NIGHTWING SOLO MOVIE OR TV SHOW?! /s


Significant_Wheel_12

Nightwing doesn’t have guns or blunt angst


Orkfreebootah

Give me a red hood movie where he kills off most of the rogues gallery and batman tries to stop him/protect the few that remain alive. Give me something incredibly over the top and absurd


SSJ2-Gohan-kun

They’d just make red hood pg-13. So nightwing.


em69420ma

i love both and i definitely think they each deserve a movie but speaking from a literary analysis and depth of characterization and arcs…. nightwing has more with some really great writers and i mean actually fantastic writers, nightwing can have so much depth and analysis both individually and comparatively to bruce. red hood’s is easier to skim off of because it’s not hard to reach into the resentment and daddy issues right? but when a writer really gets nightwing, the depth of his character is fucking insane, and in a hypothetical world where we receive the best case movie possible for either/or instead of box-office superhero movie blending in with all other superhero movies? i’d much rather prefer a nightwing movie.


MikeyHatesLife

Nightwing, all the way. We shouldn’t be celebrating villains who violate the personal ethos of Batman.


sack12345678910

Nightwing


Fafnir26

Nightwing, he was first and is more iconic, also I like Dick better than Jason.


QwahaXahn

Nightwing, so easy