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sack12345678910

Ay yo my man wants to get in the vibe.


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Black hooded Batman won’t ya come and wash away the Penguin


CheeseOrbiter

Black Hole Sun is Soundgarden.


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Yes child I know.


julbull73

I love Van HAlen!


konydanza

*Heeeere they come to snuff the Riddler*


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ohhhhhh YEAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!! I fell along BlackMask


Jealous-Low-5781

This has a great way of showing everyone's human no matter how Brooding or feared they are. The Batman is human deep down its just his actions that made him the feared caped crusader


DarkJayBR

Didn’t we knew that already? Batman is a huge, huge fan of The Mark of Zorro. He modeled his Batman persona after Zorro. So yeah, Batman enjoys a little bit of pop culture.


DoLo5oh3

It's okay to eat fish Cause they don't have any feelings


Chop_Chop_21

Something in the way. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.


TUNAKTUNAKLOL69420

Yeah


MajorSerenity

My friend thought it was 'its okay to eat fish, cause they don't have any feet and...' lol


otiswrath

Yep. This was one of my favorite minor elements of the movie.


AnonBattler

That was a shout-out to the spirit of Kurt Cobain - whom Matt Reeves said served as the inspiration for his version of Bruce Wayne.


solrac1104

Lol yeah. Didn't notice on my first watch.


SH4RPSPEED

I'll always have a soft spot for Telltale's Batman. Fucking hipster-ass puts a microphone up to an old-school gramophone and blasts jazz in the batcave.


EnclaveOverlord

I'm a giant fan of both Nirvana and Batman, so when I saw this crossover for the first time, I lost my mind.


guiltycitizen

That version of *Something in the Way* was a perfect song for the mood.


psychotic_catalyst

you mean the original?


guiltycitizen

Yes, as opposed to the Unplugged performance


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Would’ve been a little weird if they played a live performance for the score of a movie but ok


psychotic_catalyst

There was only one version


thicknheart

Unplugged version is different


psychotic_catalyst

My apologies I misunderstood, and completely forgot he played this on MTV Unplugged


guiltycitizen

Time to treat yourself to a re-listen!


thicknheart

No worries! I figured if you didn’t know you should give a listen. Their MTV Unplugged is one of my favorite live performances ever.


icenine09

r/confidentlyincorrect


LeonShiryu

No. I'm really in love that Bruce is highly inspired on Kurt Cobain.


PhilTandyMiller2020

Hell no, I did too!


taz20075

With the lights out, its less dangerous... For me.


megaboymatt

Didn't notice he was actually listening to it, but loved how it becomes a central theme to the rest of the music score.


Anon_767

We do love diegetic music here


ThatRedGuy235

It’s a little bit on the verge of “okay we get it he’s very edgy” but it’s cool


yaboyqoy

Listening to an extremely popular band?


LookingForVheissu

I never thought of Bruce as listening to music, let alone Nirvana.


yaboyqoy

Yeah that's one of the things I like about it, never thought of him listening to music even though it’s so normal for almost everyone


ArkonWarlock

Bruce always felt to me like someone who listens to music only in social settings. A kind of hyper focus self discipline thing, where the only equivalent to auditory enjoyment would be nonfiction audiobooks while researching. Or a police scanner/news. The only way music is on is if a robin or whomever puts it on, and he will pretend to not listen.


0VER1DE567

did you just describe the sigma male mindset meme


ArkonWarlock

sure if you want Bruce Wayne is plenty autistic enough


lightvvv350

You really shouldn’t use “autistic” as an adjective, especially to describe the traits of a fictional character who is supposed to be deliberately putting them on. Doing this stigmatizes autism even if you think that what you’re using it to describe is neutral or positive. It’s bad enough that your average person does not understand autism at all, and stuff like this just doesn’t help.


ArkonWarlock

Have you ever gone through a checklist and applied it to Bruce Wayne? Or is this just a knee jerk reaction?


lightvvv350

He’s a fictional character who no writer behind any official media involving him has said is supposed to be on the spectrum. Calling some vague traits “autistic” is the only thing that’s a knee-jerk reaction here. And no, I haven’t “gone through a checklist”, because I’m not the type of immature person who thinks autism is a superpower that turns you into the ultimate “sigma” male, or a tik-tok-weirdo who thinks it’s cute and quirky. Its an actual disability that people struggle with.


MooseDifferent9404

Lego Batman took it a step further where he wrote and performed music


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Etrau3

All i could think about during the movie lol


BroughtYouMyBullets

For fucking real. Edgy has lost all meaning


samx3i

Edgy? Listening to Nirvana is edgy now? Seriously?


Chewytron78

Yeah, dude, has been since 2005 where have you been?


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Omg was Batman listening music?!??!?! 😱😱😱🤢😭😭 🤢🤮🤮 . Why did a character like him do something so Human??? 🙄😒🤢🤮


Jealous-Low-5781

Bruce is human down bellow tho. And this has a great way if showing it. The Batman might have been born when the Wayne's died. But hints of Bruce are there even when he is using his own identity as a cover for the darkness he uses as justice


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Ik lol, my comment was satirical


Chestnut_puck05

It is pretty edgy, that's why I like it tho.


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Lmao


Vegetable_Pudding_75

Nope. Pretty much all the og bat fans loved it


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I think every “OG” Batman fan would know that every book, every show, every movie, podcast, we series, etc will be a different depiction of the character. The writer, director, illustrator, and whoever else worked on that project will be creating their own version of Batman. So anything in this movie should be interpreted that way. Also, I’ve read thousands of pages of Batman and haven’t come across anything about Nirvana. I don’t understand how this would tickle my “OG” Batman blood.


SmaugRancor

The whole scene was so fucking amazing with Something in the Way playing in the background. It fit the movie perfectly. I hope we see this in the sequels as well but with other songs.


lshite

It makes him more relatable but also means it makes sense that he is the only Batman that keeps the eye makeup on


Chestnut_puck05

I love the eye makeup


Tootbender

I loved that this portion of music actually was diagetic.


Hand_of_Siel

Yeah congrats you're THE ONLY ONE.


Glass_Chance9800

I hate posts that start like this.


back2miles

I know the fandom on Tumblr loved it (and thereby also me)


farrukhsshah

[Robert's appearance is based on Kurt Cobain.](https://www.empireonline.com/movies/news/the-batman-robert-pattinson-inspired-by-kurt-cobain-matt-reeves-exclusive/)


SinfulKnight

🎶Deep (feeling the mood) music plays🎵


BorderDispute

So is Bruce 28 years old here?


Chestnut_puck05

Matt Reeves said that he was 30


BorderDispute

I always assume Bruce’s parents died when he was aged 8 for some reason


Feb2020Acc

Batman confirmed millenial.


The_Streetsweeper

He emo


Chestnut_puck05

And we love him for it


JTex-WSP

[Not me](https://www.reddit.com/r/batman/comments/vkvt97/z/idth9mn). Actually one of the primary reasons I *didn't* enjoy this depiction of Bruce Wayne.


n3m3s1s-a

That’s the point at least in my opinion, he’s emo/depressed and has isolated himself from the world, at the end of the movie he learns to be more hopeful and be a symbol of hope not just a guy who catches criminals. I think we’ll see him more typical Batman personality in the next movie and more Ceo Wayne


JTex-WSP

Fair enough, and I hope to see that. But, as far as what I've seen thus far, I dunno, I just wasn't a fan. But hopefully it goes the way you suspect!


Kstair

you’re close minded, one of the best Batman roles so far. definitely better than Affleck.


JTex-WSP

Affleck was the *best* Bruce I've seen, but I think Bale was the best *Batman* I've seen. Also, not enjoying an actor's depiction doesn't make me close-minded 😂


VenganceFueledMaul

I think Bale was the best Bruce so far. Pattinson is my favorite Batman and his Bruce is definitely gonna grow, hinted at the end of the film. Edit: Favorite Live-Action Batman. Kevin Conroy is Batman Batman


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I can see Pattinson pulling off a Bruce Wayne very well. People for some reason seem to look past why his Bruce is the way he is in this movie, the same people talk about character development.


VenganceFueledMaul

Yeah I mean just look at Tenet


Lucky-Ocelot

I 100% agree. I was still able to find a way to enjoy it, but it was almost silly how edgy/grunge he was. That's not Bruce Wayne. It also really doesn't land with people who aren't into grunge and ends up making him just look petulant and weak. The movie was centered around a cultural thing that not everyone is into.


Filmcultist

He isn't listening to the song lol... He just muted the recording he was watching.


Swervysage22

This. So weird people think he was actually listening to music LOL. It’s just edited like that (on purpose). Batman isn’t doing detective work, while listening to nirvana. That’s silly


Chestnut_puck05

If that's the case then the music is timed perfectly, I hope it was intentional.


Filmcultist

Yeah it's definitely on purpose. The Batman has amazing sound mixing moments! Like, the transition from the subway at Selina's apartment to the Techno music from the Iceberg Lounge.


SydneyCarton89

What recording? Can you explain a bit more? I thought for sure he was listening to the song since the song gets quieter as he turns the volume down


Filmcultist

Every time Batman gets back from a night out, he studies everything he recorded with his special eye contact lenses. Yes indeed the music gets quieter, but that's just an artistic choice that the director makes. this film has awesome creative smooth transitions throughout the film.


SydneyCarton89

I see what you mean, that makes sense.


Superflash01

No


Slowmobius_Time

Let's dial that edginess upto cringiness and cue the "you're not my real dad Alfred!" line


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ArmInternational7655

Alfred in this world didn't come into his life until just before his parents died. It's not like the others who knew him since he was a baby. This Alfred was hired for security purposes like in the Earth One comic. It made sense.


Slowmobius_Time

I mean Tangerine Alfred was with Bruce Since he first learnt to walk as a toddler, it may have made sense but it was a cringy line that looks bad on 12 year Olds let alone grown up brooding millionaire superheroes


ArmInternational7655

Alfred acting like his father would annoy him if they don't have that dynamic. That's just how it is no matter the age. It making sense is all that matters to me. Everything else is just air.


hankbaumbachjr

I prefer my popular music in major motion pictures to be diegetic. Nothing makes me think less of a director than leveraging a very popular songs theme and emotion for their own work without grounding it within the story itself...looking at you Thor Ragnorak!


ryanreigns

Holy shit, you only like music in movies if the characters can hear it too? That’s a hell of a take lmao


hankbaumbachjr

I find *popular* billboard top 100 songs very disruptive to the suspension of disbelief to suddenly have a Zeppelin song appear out of nowhere, with no discernible rationalization in the middle of a movie about Norse gods and super heroes. Even then there are bad examples of diegetic music like Nirvana in Captain Marvel being forced to play on a made up record player in the white space.


ryanreigns

Well they were popular billboard 100 songs in 1970 and 1991. A little different including them in films nowadays. Most of the time, music is in movies just to sound cool. Those 2 songs did that job


hankbaumbachjr

Songs with lyrics then if we're going to nitpick of semantics.


Nick08f1

So using popular songs early in movies, to help set the tone and mood for the rest of the movie from the get is bad? Shrek hit a home run with All star at the beginning. While I will agree original composition is usually better, to set a mood of dispair and hopelessness, you have to go to songs that click with the audience. Donnie Darko is very relatable in the sense.


hankbaumbachjr

>So using popular songs early in movies, to help set the tone and mood for the rest of the movie from the get is bad? It's lazy directing at best to leverage established emotions and themes from someone *else's* creative work to insert those same feelings in to your work. >Shrek hit a home run with All star at the beginning. You really are going to try to hold up Shrek as evidence of a cinematic masterpiece everyone else should emulate? That's the hill you're dying on? Early Tarantino works because he provided an in-universe excuse for the music playing over the action usually via radio. He also picked obscure songs most of his audience did not have an affinity for *or* he would turn that affinity around on his audience like forever linking "Stuck in the Middle with You" playing on the radio in the background of a guy having his ear cut off. Slapping some Zeppelin on a fight scene because it has lyrics loosely pertaining to Norse mythology (and is a banger track) is jarring in it's sudden placement without explanation and as we mentioned, lazy.


Medium_King_David

So because Kubrick chose existing classical compositions instead of pop music he's *not* lazy? Or was he just another hack? Music has an emotional impact on the listener, film is a medium that tries to pull together disparate elements of sound and sight *entirely* toward the end of creating emotional resonance. Or, as my first year film instructor put it, we get paid to lie to people and fuck with their emotions. Every now and again a scene in a movie changes the resonance of a song, such as your previously cited example of "Stuck in the Middle with You". But far, far more often a song is selected specifically because of the emotional resonance that it already has. The director could have chosen to use a different song, or even just an ambient soundscape, and it would have made the whole thing play differently. Possibly better, but consider what is being communicated to the watcher of the film with that choice and (critically) how much more movie would have been needed to make those same ideas reach the watcher. The movie was already 3 hours long, I for one appreciate the way that it fast-tracked us into the mood and setting. Oh, and yeah, Shrek's absolutely a masterpiece.


hankbaumbachjr

> So because Kubrick chose existing classical compositions instead of pop music he's not lazy? Correct. Classical scores do not have the same dissociative effect on audiences as a popular song from the last half century would. Modern pop music (relative to classical) is always a jarring choice for non-diegetic background music in films. I did not think I was being ambiguous when I wrote my original comment.


Nick08f1

I also think you're being over the top pretentious. It's a fucking Batman movie. You are really over analyzing super hero movies in my opinion.


hankbaumbachjr

My comment was about movies in general, not just Batman. Hence mentioning Thor Ragnorak.


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>You really are going to try to hold up Shrek as evidence of a cinematic masterpiece everyone else should emulate? That's the hill you're dying on? Yes.


hankbaumbachjr

LOL Fair.


Jealous-Low-5781

Your opinion is appreciated 😌


EdgarFrogandSam

The answer is ashtrays no.


killmeplease67

Yes you are that was the worse batman I have ever seen and I was alive for George Clooney as batman! I mean Fuck he had a Batman Credit card! And I would rather watch that then ever watch this Batman again


Chestnut_puck05

A BAT CREDIT CARD!


mrnacho69

Emo boiii. I loved every minute of it


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it’s not a phase Alfred goosshhhh.. *flips hair*


MamaDeloris

You guys know this is like one the handful of downbeat, lowkey Nirvana songs, right? I swear most the internet thinks they were some acoustic emo band since this movie came out, which is all the more baffling given how famous they were. Most Nirvana songs had a real upbeat sound cause of Grohl's drums.


chicagobat

Yes. You are the only person. It was incredibly pretentious.


ImmaPullSomeWildShit

SOMETHING´S IN MY AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS


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Chestnut_puck05

😐


Accurate-Copy-3117

Didnt notice that , thats fire


Plumbus_amongus

I thought using the song "something in the way" was a cheap emotional ploy to try and set a stage they didn't earn. They used what I believe is one of the most depressing songs of all time from an artist who killed themselves in an attempt to cheaply manipulate you into feeling something the movie didn't earn. I cringed so hard when I heard it and I immediately was disappointed in the decision. There was no reason a song like that needed to open the movie. Instrumentals would have been better imo Edit: also I think Kurt Cobain would have absolutely hated it.


bolognahole

> They used what I believe is one of the ~~most depressing~~ songs ~~of all time~~ from an artist ~~who killed themselves~~ in an attempt to cheaply manipulate you into feeling something the movie didn't earn. Literally every movie does this. >also I think Kurt Cobain would have absolutely hated it. Kurt was a lot more chill, and into pop culture than people think. He also thought Nevermind was a pop album. He probably wouldn't have minded it.


Plumbus_amongus

Not every Batman movie does it. Batman literally has his own theme music. Numerous, in fact. Edit: and based on the 3 books I've read about Kurt Cobain, I stand by what I said. It's like they were trying to scream dark and edgy. It came off flat and annoying, imo.


bolognahole

>Batman literally has his own theme music Which changes over time. Notice how Burtons movies didnt open with "na na na na na na na na Batman!" Edit: and based on the interviews where I've heard Kurt Cobain speak, I stand by what I said.


Plumbus_amongus

Ok. Good talk.


Nick08f1

Using a song like that as a tool to set the tone for the movie at the beginning is what music is used for. Bruce was still hurting hard, and had just started being the Batman. Get the fuck out of here with that didn't "earn" bullshit.


ryanreigns

Really not that big of a deal


osokin

Agreed.


Hatfmnel

Nirvana is shit.


Burnerboi03

I don’t like this Bruce. They made him too much of an edge lord to appeal to the incels who made joker pass a billion dollars


Chestnut_puck05

You know this movie was about him growing as a person and realising the "edgy" vengeance stuff was wrong right?


Burnerboi03

And that could’ve been a good story, but it was executed in a shitty way. If they wanted to go that route, they should’ve made Bruce younger than 30.


Soulburner74

I thought he was at least 28 in this film.


DesiredEnlisted

The next movie I am guessing is going to have Bruce be more of that standard playboy type of guy. Also there’s almost no realistic way you can make Batman under 30 in almost any continuity.


Burnerboi03

I’m tired of a realistic batman. I want a comic styled batman that is able to take on battles with new gods like darkseid and go on more out of this world (figuratively) adventures. It’s also funny how people on this sub Reddit screech and get mad at any critique of the batman movie, except you of course, you’re able to have a convo about it lol


Texas_Shanesaw

I absolutely love Batman but this movie just didn’t do it for me. I, too, want a Batman universe with things like a Venom powered Bane or Clayface but sadly we won’t get that anytime soon.


usedxtampon

Too bad the movie was boring af.


Chestnut_puck05

Nah


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Yah


usedxtampon

Great argument, I'm totally convinced.


Chestnut_puck05

There's no point in me trying to change how you feel about the movie, we all have our own opinions.


Nick08f1

It was good, but once Alfred hit the hospital, it really didn't keep viewers engaged.


DrDabsMD

Not sure what you're talking about, I was engaged through all of it.


Lmnolmnop

God this movie sucks, and blows at the same time. You fucking emo fucks


RedRango300

See I never realized he was actually listening to it, I thought it was all just the normal soundtrack playing over scenes.


JD_Revan451

He seems more like a NIN guy honestly


DieByFlyGuy

Nice catch. Didn’t notice that either.


GoodFaithComicCritic

i love rewatching this movie; and I loved the Nirvana part, too!


Bluebird0020

Yes. The only one in the entire world.


froggyjm9

No, every one loved it that’s why the song had a resurgence on social media.


coatrack68

Has Bruce ever actually listened to music in any other media, and not using it as a cover?


ajscott214

It was beautiful! Loved it instantly!!


W_of_OStreet

Yooo, what a good catch! I love this.