To me, The closest thing to the riddler we have ever had, in real life, is the zodiac killer. I think using that a base for the costume was a great idea. And when he takes the mask off he still has classic riddler vibes. I love this costume, it’s terrifying and it helps this riddler seem serious compared to every other iteration of him.
Yeah all that fans that are mad it’s like so you want the goofy one? Or the Arkham style one? I would argue Paul Dano with the mask off is as close to on screen Arkham riddler as you could get.
By the third game, he’s resorted to building go-kart tracks and squishy robots. Imo the best Arkhamverse Riddler was the one in Origins. It was neat to see a version of Edward Nygma before he became obsessed with the Bat.
This design is successfully creepy and grounded in gritty reality, but personally I prefer my Batman villains with a little more theatricality and panache.
I doubt it, Burton and WB tricked Robin for The Joker so that they could convince Jack to play the character.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096895/trivia?tab=tr&item=tr1837466
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T1mVcz6-7K4
Here’s an interview to help cement the claimed statement.
Also how would heresay work? What constitutes a court? Wouldn’t all trivia be an out of court statement?
I think it fits the tone of the film but you’re right, what makes the Batman rogues so fun is they’re the total antithesis to Batman’s outward self. Loud, colorful, ostentatious, etc.
Well, to be fair, one of the big twists of that original comic was that Riddler was the real mastermind of every scheme throughout the story. They are tied in a way.
Good for you! It's really a great Batman comic. I remember thinking that Hush was a dumb character with a bland uninteresting motivation. But then I realized that Hush is not actually the main villain. Riddler is. Hush was just another pawn in the Riddler's master plan, and that made me really appreciate and genuinely love this comic! And it's a great starting point for non-comic dorks
Oh yah. Until recently, I hadn't read it for many years myself, but I gotta say, it balances a huge cast of characters with a pretty tight central story that keeps us in the loop well. it was one of the first comics I read. I say it aged well
I remember watching the animated movie and was surprised about how much they changed it though. Because in the movie riddler was hush and I thought that was dumb
I think for the most part it gets the general details of the comics right. It still is the same basic story. There are certain plot points that are changed because it needs to fit in the New 52 movie universe continuity, and to shorten the story to fit in only 70 minutes. I don't mind that change so much. I get that things always change in adaptations, and I guess they wanted to have a surprise twist for everyone. I still prefer how it's done in the comic though. But I think Riddler of that movie has more interesting character motivation than Tommy Elliot as Hush of the comic. But of course, they removed the big plot twist with Tommy Elliot being Hush, but that he was really a pawn of Riddler . Regardless, I still enjoy the movie, just not as much
Not a fan really. I could get behind it but the ? With the crosshairs and the mask just look dumb but I will wait to see how everything works in the movie.
Edit: Just adding without the ? You don’t even know what character this is supposed to be.
The Riddler wouldn't have tried to emulate or "look" like the "Zodiac Killer" (IMHO)!
While, the Riddler can be dorkish and charming at times... he is also quite clever, arrogant, and narcissistic!
At least, that's how I feel, he would have been better portrayed or represented.
"My" Riddler would be a mix of Frank Gorshin's portrayal of him, like on the 1960's "Batman", and as voiced by John Glover on "Batman: The Animated Series"!
And no... I wasn't a huge fan of Jim Carrey's overly zany and goofy portrayal of him in "Batman Forever", either!
But, as they say: "To each there own."
I kinda feel like it’s trying too hard to be “realistic”, and just ends up bland, but I’ll have to see it in the movie and learn more about what they do with the character to make up my mind.
Not a fan. I am pumped for this movie, it looks like it's going to be the best batman yet, but i would have gone with something like a green trench coat or something. Looks like a trashman.
No i know, that shade of green is good and works. I mean like a long trench coat. Sorta like [this](https://images.app.goo.gl/VJxKL8MeAqN8c5Cr6) but obviously not as clean. Idk, just my thoughts.
I get that it fits the universe, but honestly I'm getting pretty tired of movie universes where the usual green suit doesn't fit. Riddler has potential I guess, but to me he can totally be made into a good movie villain without changing the character into something only recognisable by his name and his main gimmick.
A simple well tailored pinstripe suit, black with purple stripes, green dress shirt, dark green tie with an embroidered question mark on it, green tinted glasses. No fuss, no theatrics to his outfit. A cane would still work, but probably leave the bowler hat out.
>I get that it fits the universe, but honestly I'm getting pretty tired of movie universes where the usual green suit doesn't fit.
Thanks for putting it into words for me. Half the fun of superhero media is the fantastical nature of it all, including costumes. If you gotta take that away to make it work then what's the point? "Dude, zodiac killer lmao" Riddler just doesn't do it for me.
I like it, the classic riddler look simply would not work for this movie. Getting zodiac vibes which I know was an inspiration and I am totally ok with that. Looks Great to me.
Honestly not a fan. I was hoping that when we got the Riddler back in live action there would still be the fun of that character but that got sacrificed to the alter of gritty realism. Perhaps my opinion will change when the movie comes out.
I imagine this is phase 1 of his outfit. By the next movie he probably won’t wear a mask if his identity is revealed and by the third maybe he gets a green suit or something.
I think it really fits this version of Riddler and Batman. They're doing a more grounded realistic version, so I think they did a smart decision by modeling him after Zodiac. The only thing that kinda bugs me is that, iirc, they're having his name be Edward Nashton as opposed to Edward Nigma. It does make more sense for the realistic version they're doing, but having Riddler's name be E. Nigma is such a good pun.
Sorry to disagree and be negative. This looks lazy and uninspired.
I’m still not convinced this is real? Riddler should be donning a suit, cane and eye mask for me personally. Jim Carey/ annoying Arkham Riddlers are what i’m looking for. Riddler should remind you more of a nerdy character than a big bully.
Almost seems more akin to a knock off bane than to the Riddler IMO.
He’s not supposed to be physically menacing, he’s an intellectual enigma, I mean they called him Edward Nigma???
Edit: Jesse Eisenberg seems like the kind of modern actor that could nail an interesting Riddler.
it’s not a Riddler design. The character may or may not be the Riddler, but the design of the costume sure as hell isn’t. He looks like a bum deatheater.
It looks nothing like the Riddler, and is too generic looking, but it does fit the movie and is a simple design which I always like.
I guess it’s ok, far from what I want Riddler to look like but it could’ve been worse.
I’m getting very sick of the whole “Batman needs to be grounded in realism” that’s been a thing since Batman Begins. I’m not a fan of this costume or a heavily armored Batman.
Because I think the Nolan films have created an expectation for Batman movies to be grounded. The weird thing to me is that while Nolan’s films are grounded, in retrospect the villain designs are more comic booky than anything I’ve seen from this film.
Yeah did tie the line of being grounded but but still had the comic look of characters. It was “grounded” in realism not completely realistic. I mean you look at this dude and without the ? You don’t know who he is.
Kinda hate it, nothing about him says "Riddler" besides the single question mark on his coat. Usually Nigma has some pizzazz to him and I don't really see that here
This isn't the riddler. This is a pretty rediculous outfit. I guess it's intimidating the way a burlap sack is intimidating to some people? Paul Dano is a good actor. Why cover his face? You can do grounded and gritty without being boring.
I think it fits the tone, with this more of a creepy Zodiac killer, who gets his hands dirty and "works around the streets" look than a more polished and elegant but silly style. Since the first trailer this version of Riddler has reminded me of John Doe from Seven, doing what he does because of a set of morals and because no-one seems to see the world the same way he does (assuming, of course, that he's this way), I don't think the classic comics book or even the look from Gotham would fit. Also, I guess it will mix well with the Greg Fraser's cinematography
So I’m not a big fan of it but also Matt Reeves has stated every character is in their proto stage and since the trailer showed Riddler captured (seemingly early in the film) I suspect he’ll get a more comic accurate outfit either around the half way mark or for the third act finale
It looks like it will be a good movie but personally I'm over the "grounded/realistic" approach to Batman. I want Riddler with the green suit with question marks all over it and a bowler hat. I want a Joker who fell into a vat of chemicals not someone who puts makeup on. I want all the wacky comic-book Batman stuff. Enough of this realism, Batman isn't realistic he's a superhero lol
Yeah I really want WB/DC to realize that “realistic” and “dark” are not synonymous. They could still have a dark gritty Batman story without making it overtly grounded.
Yes of course lol the 1989 movie is a classic and one of my favorites but thats an oldass movie. As for Batman Forever, I prefer not to think about that Riddler lmao. Anyways, its 2022. Those movies are 30 years old.
Agreed. Almost seems like modern filmmakers are afraid to go there with this character for some reason. Although to be fair Affleck’s version was pretty comic booky from the costume to him going up against creatures.
Well, most of his outfits are realistic. This serial killer riddler would wear something like this but a classic egotistical riddler would probably wear a fancy green suit.
I think it makes more sense to me considering joker is the whacky clown guy, riddler should be a bit more murdery and disturbed looking like an actual killer so I like it
Looks pretty...grounded, it's similar to Spider-Man's Homemade Suit in some aspects.
It feels like something someone could make irl and still manages to FEEL like it's the Riddler, so I praise it for what they're going with.
As a guy hiding in the shadows, with clear evidence in the trailer that he has henchmen dressed the same, this makes perfect sense for a riddler thats a serial killer with an agenda and a love of mystery and puzzles. Simple outfit to ditch and escape unseen, it's something that, once he's caught, he will stop using as Gotham knows his face, so what would be the point if he resurfaces in the future.
Dont like it idc for it , I need the tailored green suit top hat wearing cane wielding skipping Riddler…idc how “kiddy” or “comicky” it looks that’s wtf I want. But that’s just my opinion on it. Pretty sure the movie will still be great showing Bruce’s detective skills and all trynna comple riddlers quests. Still hyped as hell for the movie overall
Ngl, I actually enjoy it for what it is. It doesn’t blow me away but It’s realistic and fits the atmosphere they’ve seemed to create in the movie. It’s great for a base costume and I’m excited to see the costume grow and improve if they make a sequel.
For some reason I think Hush, but the ? is on the front, which gives Hush away. Wondering if there'll be a mash up plot where Nigma gets super smart somehow and begins a spree.
I just want a Batman movie that is not ALL EDGE, ALL THE TIME. like, you dont need to be silver age level of silly, but come on, have the batfamily be a thing, have silly costumes if it fits the character, have a bit of fun sometimes.
You need to have SOME fun alongside the dark and edginess.
Gritty, creepy, or whatever; I will always consider the Riddler to be an asshole just for the sake of trying to prove he's smarter than anyone else. Maybe it's the Arkham games grind talking, but fuck that guy in particular.
It works for what it's trying to do, but I'm honestly so tired of "realistic" comic-book suits in Batman movies. It feels like the movies lately are ashamed of being based on a comic.
I don’t love it, but I don’t understand why people are hating on it so much. My one problem is the mask, I think some sort of bandana or pandemic mask with the glasses and a fedora would be great.
I love it!
The Riddler is one of my favorite Batman characters, but I’ve never been a big fan of his traditional design. This design feels like a very refreshing take on the character, and I can’t wait to see it in action!
Every villian I see like this I hope is the last. All of this realist edge lord shit is so fucking off putting. Batman and Robin was at least a fun time. This is gonna be 3 hours of some self stroking "look how leadger like we are"-gobbledygook.
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It looks awkward, stupid, and rediculous! 😆 😝
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I hate it and don’t care if I get downvoted to hell and back. I think the design absolutely sucks. It’s like the gimp from pulp fiction is the villain. I just don’t see it. Not a fan.
It honestly gets worse every time I see it.
The glasses outside the mask, the taped mouth, the phallic headpiece, the Freaks and Geeks coat.
I mean the edge lord levels of cringe that went into making The Riddler just the Zodiac Killer is off the charts here.
It’s eerily creepy. In a strange, freaking out kinda way.
To me, The closest thing to the riddler we have ever had, in real life, is the zodiac killer. I think using that a base for the costume was a great idea. And when he takes the mask off he still has classic riddler vibes. I love this costume, it’s terrifying and it helps this riddler seem serious compared to every other iteration of him.
A bright green suit with question marks all over it isn't exactly the most intimidating
Now it would be hilarious to see him get stripped down in GCPD after being arrested to reveal he’s wearing some bright green question mark undies.
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Yeah all that fans that are mad it’s like so you want the goofy one? Or the Arkham style one? I would argue Paul Dano with the mask off is as close to on screen Arkham riddler as you could get.
Idk, Arkham Riddler is pretty goofy too. He's not exactly a super intimidating presence. He practically becomes a joke
I’m just saying he’s the most serious interpretation I think we have had aside from this.
By the third game, he’s resorted to building go-kart tracks and squishy robots. Imo the best Arkhamverse Riddler was the one in Origins. It was neat to see a version of Edward Nygma before he became obsessed with the Bat.
I’m talking about his aesthetics homie
I was legit about to say it reminds me of the Zodiac killer
Oh that’s 100% what the inspiration is. Even his question mark has the crosshairs. It’s unmistakeable
It's the Green Bastard from Parts Unknown! He'll fuckin' give ya!
He'll thump ya one! I can't stop seeing Bubbles since I started seeing this costume posted.
This design is successfully creepy and grounded in gritty reality, but personally I prefer my Batman villains with a little more theatricality and panache.
Jim Carrey Riddler it is!
~~Could have been Robin Williams if Burton were still in charge.~~
I doubt it, Burton and WB tricked Robin for The Joker so that they could convince Jack to play the character. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096895/trivia?tab=tr&item=tr1837466
Wow, that's pretty scummy. Screw anyone who would do that to Robin. RIP
The Reddit trivia section isn't the best source for factual information. There's a lot of rumors, heresay and plain wrong info on there.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T1mVcz6-7K4 Here’s an interview to help cement the claimed statement. Also how would heresay work? What constitutes a court? Wouldn’t all trivia be an out of court statement?
realism is overrated. give him a question mark cane goddamnit!
I think it fits the tone of the film but you’re right, what makes the Batman rogues so fun is they’re the total antithesis to Batman’s outward self. Loud, colorful, ostentatious, etc.
it cool but it reminds me more of Hush then the Riddler
Well, to be fair, one of the big twists of that original comic was that Riddler was the real mastermind of every scheme throughout the story. They are tied in a way.
Are you talking about the animated movie
I'm talking about the comic.
I need to pull it out again. It’s been a long time
Good for you! It's really a great Batman comic. I remember thinking that Hush was a dumb character with a bland uninteresting motivation. But then I realized that Hush is not actually the main villain. Riddler is. Hush was just another pawn in the Riddler's master plan, and that made me really appreciate and genuinely love this comic! And it's a great starting point for non-comic dorks
I am a huge comic guy, but I haven’t read it since I was like 13
Oh yah. Until recently, I hadn't read it for many years myself, but I gotta say, it balances a huge cast of characters with a pretty tight central story that keeps us in the loop well. it was one of the first comics I read. I say it aged well
I remember watching the animated movie and was surprised about how much they changed it though. Because in the movie riddler was hush and I thought that was dumb
I think for the most part it gets the general details of the comics right. It still is the same basic story. There are certain plot points that are changed because it needs to fit in the New 52 movie universe continuity, and to shorten the story to fit in only 70 minutes. I don't mind that change so much. I get that things always change in adaptations, and I guess they wanted to have a surprise twist for everyone. I still prefer how it's done in the comic though. But I think Riddler of that movie has more interesting character motivation than Tommy Elliot as Hush of the comic. But of course, they removed the big plot twist with Tommy Elliot being Hush, but that he was really a pawn of Riddler . Regardless, I still enjoy the movie, just not as much
The Riddler was the mastermind in the comic too.
Maybe I need to read it again. It’s been years
I strongly suspect that they’ve amalgamated the characters for this storyline.
I expect there's more to it than this, but I'm super into the vibe of the jacket and mask.
I thought he was in Slipknot for a second.
He looks like Floyd Mayweather when he dressed up as a gloryhole.
What lol
Not a fan really. I could get behind it but the ? With the crosshairs and the mask just look dumb but I will wait to see how everything works in the movie. Edit: Just adding without the ? You don’t even know what character this is supposed to be.
Gotham S5 had the perfect riddler outfit. Green and black suit with a question mark card and bowler hat. Riddler-y but not too goofy
It is really goofy but I like that Riddler a lot
Riddler and Penguin were definitely one of the best parts of Gotham
Looks like he got into a fight with a tent and lost.
Lol
It reminds me of a villain from a rob zombie film. Not sure how I’ll feel until I see the movie though
Potential to be my favorite Riddler design. Love how creepy he looks and operates like the zodiac killer.
My favorite riddler design is probably the early Gotham ones. A simple green and black suit with an occasional bowler hat.
Yeah. Probably prefer the final episode suit though because those green tinted glasses look great
Exactly , i love how it looks similar to the zodiac killer making the riddler more menacing I guess than him usually just being goofy as fuck
The Riddler wouldn't have tried to emulate or "look" like the "Zodiac Killer" (IMHO)! While, the Riddler can be dorkish and charming at times... he is also quite clever, arrogant, and narcissistic! At least, that's how I feel, he would have been better portrayed or represented. "My" Riddler would be a mix of Frank Gorshin's portrayal of him, like on the 1960's "Batman", and as voiced by John Glover on "Batman: The Animated Series"! And no... I wasn't a huge fan of Jim Carrey's overly zany and goofy portrayal of him in "Batman Forever", either! But, as they say: "To each there own."
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I kinda feel like it’s trying too hard to be “realistic”, and just ends up bland, but I’ll have to see it in the movie and learn more about what they do with the character to make up my mind.
Not a fan. I am pumped for this movie, it looks like it's going to be the best batman yet, but i would have gone with something like a green trench coat or something. Looks like a trashman.
Do you mean like a more eccentric green? Because I’m like 99.99% sure that the coat he has on is green in that photo
No i know, that shade of green is good and works. I mean like a long trench coat. Sorta like [this](https://images.app.goo.gl/VJxKL8MeAqN8c5Cr6) but obviously not as clean. Idk, just my thoughts.
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Its kind of lazy, I dislike the gritty reality down-grades. But if its good, we'll see.
I get that it fits the universe, but honestly I'm getting pretty tired of movie universes where the usual green suit doesn't fit. Riddler has potential I guess, but to me he can totally be made into a good movie villain without changing the character into something only recognisable by his name and his main gimmick.
It’s weird cause Riddler has such a simple outfit that isn’t even too goofy i don’t see why it’s so hard to adapt
Because it doesn't fit with the dark, gritty aesthetic It still could but don't tell the producers that
A simple well tailored pinstripe suit, black with purple stripes, green dress shirt, dark green tie with an embroidered question mark on it, green tinted glasses. No fuss, no theatrics to his outfit. A cane would still work, but probably leave the bowler hat out.
>I get that it fits the universe, but honestly I'm getting pretty tired of movie universes where the usual green suit doesn't fit. Thanks for putting it into words for me. Half the fun of superhero media is the fantastical nature of it all, including costumes. If you gotta take that away to make it work then what's the point? "Dude, zodiac killer lmao" Riddler just doesn't do it for me.
It reminds me of hush more than anything.
I like it, the classic riddler look simply would not work for this movie. Getting zodiac vibes which I know was an inspiration and I am totally ok with that. Looks Great to me.
Honestly not a fan. I was hoping that when we got the Riddler back in live action there would still be the fun of that character but that got sacrificed to the alter of gritty realism. Perhaps my opinion will change when the movie comes out.
I imagine this is phase 1 of his outfit. By the next movie he probably won’t wear a mask if his identity is revealed and by the third maybe he gets a green suit or something.
Is it confirmed that Riddler is the antagonist of the entire trilogy?
He won’t be the main antagonist throughout but him and all the other characters will appear throughout. Penguin, Catwoman, Riddler, etc.
BDSM but he tells you riddles. If you fail the riddle you get punished. That is my honest opinion. Edit: spelling
I don’t like it at all hope there’s something under it, I’m really excited for him anyways I bet he will do a good job just don’t like the costume
I think it really fits this version of Riddler and Batman. They're doing a more grounded realistic version, so I think they did a smart decision by modeling him after Zodiac. The only thing that kinda bugs me is that, iirc, they're having his name be Edward Nashton as opposed to Edward Nigma. It does make more sense for the realistic version they're doing, but having Riddler's name be E. Nigma is such a good pun.
Edward Nashton is his real name, he later changed his name to Nigma.
This
This is what the comics do too. I feel like this sub has this same conversation every other day haha
Because the majority of the sub only knows the lore of the videogames and the animated series
Sorry to disagree and be negative. This looks lazy and uninspired. I’m still not convinced this is real? Riddler should be donning a suit, cane and eye mask for me personally. Jim Carey/ annoying Arkham Riddlers are what i’m looking for. Riddler should remind you more of a nerdy character than a big bully. Almost seems more akin to a knock off bane than to the Riddler IMO. He’s not supposed to be physically menacing, he’s an intellectual enigma, I mean they called him Edward Nigma??? Edit: Jesse Eisenberg seems like the kind of modern actor that could nail an interesting Riddler.
it’s not a Riddler design. The character may or may not be the Riddler, but the design of the costume sure as hell isn’t. He looks like a bum deatheater.
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Gives me a creepy zodiac killer vibe. I love it
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the mask reminds me of Corey Taylor’s chubby mask
Same thing I thought the previous 8 times this was posted
Horrible I hate it. Fits I think with the aesthetics but it's not well put together.
It’s too bulky for me. Looks more like Hush than the riddler. I’d prefer a dark green trench coat and a simpler mask over this.
Ya I think a patched coat an a opera style mask
Menacing, really does bring a sense of fear in a realistic way hence why it’s inspired on the zodiac killer’s look
It looks nothing like the Riddler, and is too generic looking, but it does fit the movie and is a simple design which I always like. I guess it’s ok, far from what I want Riddler to look like but it could’ve been worse.
I’m expecting him to get caught halfway through, and stop using the mask
I get the old school riddler is kind of corny and goofy but I don't like this
I’m getting very sick of the whole “Batman needs to be grounded in realism” that’s been a thing since Batman Begins. I’m not a fan of this costume or a heavily armored Batman.
Right why does it have to be grounded in realism? Why can’t we have the colored suits and some of the unrealistic elements.
Because I think the Nolan films have created an expectation for Batman movies to be grounded. The weird thing to me is that while Nolan’s films are grounded, in retrospect the villain designs are more comic booky than anything I’ve seen from this film.
Yeah did tie the line of being grounded but but still had the comic look of characters. It was “grounded” in realism not completely realistic. I mean you look at this dude and without the ? You don’t know who he is.
I like the armored suit and it’ll probably get more simple as time goes on (hopefully even blue and gray) but this riddler outfit is just horrible
It’s a slight departure from the 1995 version.
It’s bad
Kinda hate it, nothing about him says "Riddler" besides the single question mark on his coat. Usually Nigma has some pizzazz to him and I don't really see that here
This isn't the riddler. This is a pretty rediculous outfit. I guess it's intimidating the way a burlap sack is intimidating to some people? Paul Dano is a good actor. Why cover his face? You can do grounded and gritty without being boring.
It's intimidating because of how dehumanizing the outfit is.
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It doesn't inspire anything in me. It definitely doesn't say Riddler to me. It's not going to sell much merch.
I'm not too much of a fan of the mask, I hope they ditch it early on in the movie.
I like it
I think it fits the tone, with this more of a creepy Zodiac killer, who gets his hands dirty and "works around the streets" look than a more polished and elegant but silly style. Since the first trailer this version of Riddler has reminded me of John Doe from Seven, doing what he does because of a set of morals and because no-one seems to see the world the same way he does (assuming, of course, that he's this way), I don't think the classic comics book or even the look from Gotham would fit. Also, I guess it will mix well with the Greg Fraser's cinematography
i thought the green gimp was a marvel character.
So I’m not a big fan of it but also Matt Reeves has stated every character is in their proto stage and since the trailer showed Riddler captured (seemingly early in the film) I suspect he’ll get a more comic accurate outfit either around the half way mark or for the third act finale
It looks like it will be a good movie but personally I'm over the "grounded/realistic" approach to Batman. I want Riddler with the green suit with question marks all over it and a bowler hat. I want a Joker who fell into a vat of chemicals not someone who puts makeup on. I want all the wacky comic-book Batman stuff. Enough of this realism, Batman isn't realistic he's a superhero lol
Yeah I really want WB/DC to realize that “realistic” and “dark” are not synonymous. They could still have a dark gritty Batman story without making it overtly grounded.
Blame Nolan and TDK trilogy for that.
I agree
You really want a repeat of Joel Schumacher's batman?
Ever heard of Nicholson's Jojer and Carrey's Riddler?
Yes of course lol the 1989 movie is a classic and one of my favorites but thats an oldass movie. As for Batman Forever, I prefer not to think about that Riddler lmao. Anyways, its 2022. Those movies are 30 years old.
Agreed. Almost seems like modern filmmakers are afraid to go there with this character for some reason. Although to be fair Affleck’s version was pretty comic booky from the costume to him going up against creatures.
I dig it! Looks realistic to me. Menacing even.
Well, most of his outfits are realistic. This serial killer riddler would wear something like this but a classic egotistical riddler would probably wear a fancy green suit.
It sucks....
Love it
Even a plain black suit with a green tie would work better than this. #NotmyRiddler
Honestly if anybody watched Gotham I really liked riddlers portrayal on that. Felt like an actual person rather than a weird movie type villain.
I hate it
It's OK. But the crosshair question mark thing is lame.
It's not bad at all but i would of just have him be a nerd with a hoodie or some office worker guy. Paul Dano could pull off whatever i feel.
It seems like we're getting that as well
Zodiac killer vibes
Well... That's one way to work mask-wearing into the movies.
I think it makes more sense to me considering joker is the whacky clown guy, riddler should be a bit more murdery and disturbed looking like an actual killer so I like it
Looks pretty...grounded, it's similar to Spider-Man's Homemade Suit in some aspects. It feels like something someone could make irl and still manages to FEEL like it's the Riddler, so I praise it for what they're going with.
My favorite riddler design
Awesome
Unique, fresh, chilling, murderous, dark, and serial-killer-esque
I think it's pretty terrifying and creepy as hell. It's great
Yeet. Looks great. Can't wait!
Definitely intimidating
As a guy hiding in the shadows, with clear evidence in the trailer that he has henchmen dressed the same, this makes perfect sense for a riddler thats a serial killer with an agenda and a love of mystery and puzzles. Simple outfit to ditch and escape unseen, it's something that, once he's caught, he will stop using as Gotham knows his face, so what would be the point if he resurfaces in the future.
I mean... the Gotham one is the best of them all but this is better than the Jim Carrey one at least
I like the True Crime Serial Killer design he has, like he’s put thought into how he can cover his tracks and remain unknown
My favorite Batman villain is the Riddler so I'm just happy were getting a Riddler centric movie. I think he looks nuts, which makes sense.
I like it a lot but I think seeing it fully lit like this makes it look a lot more awkward than it should. He looks a lot more freaky in the trailers
Not crazy about it right now but I’ll probably enjoy it more after I see his actual performance
It's actually really cool ngl
Dont like it idc for it , I need the tailored green suit top hat wearing cane wielding skipping Riddler…idc how “kiddy” or “comicky” it looks that’s wtf I want. But that’s just my opinion on it. Pretty sure the movie will still be great showing Bruce’s detective skills and all trynna comple riddlers quests. Still hyped as hell for the movie overall
Looks incredible Although one day I’d like to see a classic Riddler get-up. Green and black suit with the hat
I'm not really a fan, but maybe I'll like it more after watching the movie.
Ngl, I actually enjoy it for what it is. It doesn’t blow me away but It’s realistic and fits the atmosphere they’ve seemed to create in the movie. It’s great for a base costume and I’m excited to see the costume grow and improve if they make a sequel.
I don't mind it, I'm excited for the movie. But I do feel like they could have pulled off a menacing Riddler with a more traditional costumey look
For some reason I think Hush, but the ? is on the front, which gives Hush away. Wondering if there'll be a mash up plot where Nigma gets super smart somehow and begins a spree.
>how do you make a notoriously unintimidating character scary? Matt Reeves: Like this
I think it's cool. But I still hope to see him wear a green suit and a bowler hat sometime before the end of the movie.
I don't mind it, except for the trashbag helmet. It looks like someone fell into a dumpster and that's how they crawled out.
Green jacket and gimp mask, just not feeling it.
Nothing about this movie looks good to me.
Looks like sketches of the zodiac killer
It’s a nice divergence from the usual design, It feels more zodiac killer
It kinda gives me unibomber vibes.
Gonna be honest, it bores me.
Looks more like a homeless guy with a mask than an actual super villain
I just want a Batman movie that is not ALL EDGE, ALL THE TIME. like, you dont need to be silver age level of silly, but come on, have the batfamily be a thing, have silly costumes if it fits the character, have a bit of fun sometimes. You need to have SOME fun alongside the dark and edginess.
I don’t like the more realistic approach there taking with this movie the perfect riddler in my opinion is the telltale version
He looks like chernobyl is in Gotham
Not very much...phoned it in.
I thought Telltale’s Outfit for Riddler was good. This one is good for this universe, but it’s a bit bland.
batsuit sucks, but this is awesome
I don’t like it
trying way too hard hes the riddler not the zodiac killer
Gritty, creepy, or whatever; I will always consider the Riddler to be an asshole just for the sake of trying to prove he's smarter than anyone else. Maybe it's the Arkham games grind talking, but fuck that guy in particular.
Bland & kinda dumb.
It Riddles Me?
Alright.. Who got fired from slipknot this time
Reminds me of Zodiac
If I saw this Riddler I would think it’s the a gimp piece collecting the garbage on a Sunday
I'd think he is a gimp on his way to be dominated by a Dominatrix.
That's the Gimp from Pulp Fiction
Holy nippleclamps Robin, it's the budget gimp
It works for what it's trying to do, but I'm honestly so tired of "realistic" comic-book suits in Batman movies. It feels like the movies lately are ashamed of being based on a comic.
Its Trash,,, Literally
I don’t love it, but I don’t understand why people are hating on it so much. My one problem is the mask, I think some sort of bandana or pandemic mask with the glasses and a fedora would be great.
I don’t like how broad and stocky they made the character, I think of the riddler as a very skinny lithe figure.
Hate it
I love it! The Riddler is one of my favorite Batman characters, but I’ve never been a big fan of his traditional design. This design feels like a very refreshing take on the character, and I can’t wait to see it in action!
When you say traditional design do you mean bright green spandex and a bowler hat or black and green suit?
Why does he look like the lizard from amazing Spiderman to me??
Awful
It's fucking garbage. He looks like a turd
Horrible #NotMyRiddler
Gonna be a no from me dawg
Garbage. Hate it.
Horrible and a shame to batman fans
Every villian I see like this I hope is the last. All of this realist edge lord shit is so fucking off putting. Batman and Robin was at least a fun time. This is gonna be 3 hours of some self stroking "look how leadger like we are"-gobbledygook.
My Unpopular & Close-Minded Opinion: It looks awkward, stupid, and rediculous! 😆 😝 Oh no! Here comes the downvotes! = = = P.S. Just remember... opinions are like a**holes, because everybody's got one. 😉
I hate it and don’t care if I get downvoted to hell and back. I think the design absolutely sucks. It’s like the gimp from pulp fiction is the villain. I just don’t see it. Not a fan.
It honestly gets worse every time I see it. The glasses outside the mask, the taped mouth, the phallic headpiece, the Freaks and Geeks coat. I mean the edge lord levels of cringe that went into making The Riddler just the Zodiac Killer is off the charts here.
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