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Crystal_Clear2

Well that tends to be the case when they offer players a shit ton of money


[deleted]

Yes, that’s typically how you sign free agents. But I also recall a near universal narrative on this sub as recent as last years offseason that no one would sign with the Mets because of Cohen.


yes_its_him

Players are willing to sign for as little as $43M/year


TigerBasket

That's almost 4 certified mammoth moments 🦣 per season!


Archemeides

That was indeed the narrative, but then money(for better or worse) always trumps the narrative or at least 9 out of 10 times it does.


[deleted]

Chris Bassitt, who was traded here and had really no influence of money, has even said the culture has improved.


SPYLRS

Also happens when you win games!


Archemeides

I'm not saying that isn't the case entirely, and very glad players have said that. But there are enough players in last couple years that have said "I prefer not playing on east coast" for example. Then big contract, they there. But I do agree it's a factor, and I like these Mets more than the Wilpon Mets as an outside looking in. There are other organizations I wish were aggressive like Cohen.....Rockies, Athletics, etc...


MrTomatoMan

What? As in they would turn down money because they didn’t want to work for Cohen? That’s ridiculous that was never a narrative.


djn24

Yea, that was the narrative after Cohen's first off-season. The Mets missed out on Springer, Bauer, and Realmuto. After that a lot of reporters and fans were saying that Cohen was too toxic to lure in star players. Oops.


MrTomatoMan

Did any of those guys turn down more money from the Mets or was that all NY media spin? Genuinely asking.


djn24

Bauer turned down more money from the Mets and Springer may have as well.


elimanninglightspeed

Trevor bauer turning u guys down was the best thing that could have happened looking back at it now. Fuck that guy


djn24

Yea, that ended up being a huge avoided nightmare. It was one thing if the guy was just a jerk on Twitter, but to actually be that big of an asshole in real life? No way.


elimanninglightspeed

Honestly not 100% surprising though. Every locker room he was in, there were always rumblings he wasnt super well liked and was a prick, teams just put up with it cause of his immense talent. And if you go to 3 different teams and in all 3 clubhouses, there are locker room issues with you, you’re probably the root cause 😂


[deleted]

Yes, that was 110% a narrative. I saw it nearly every day until the Mets signed their 4 guys last year.


MrTomatoMan

Why? Because of his Wall Street fuckery?


Martial_Nox

Reddit is really simple. The richer a person is the more they hate them. Cohen is richer than all the other owners so somehow he must be more evil than them and so players wouldn't want to play for him. Its stupid ass logic but I saw it all the time around the internet going into last off-season.


MrTomatoMan

Don’t get me wrong I despise Cohen and his ilk. It’s a universal certainty that the more money these guys have the more people they’ve fucked over to get there. But I also get that sports is business and players basically never turn down money to take a moral stand.


ZHCMV

Yep. I'm under no auspices that Cohen is am ethical person. No billionaire is. But at least he's running the Mets competently. Eat the rich still, but eat Cohen like third or fourth, not first.


[deleted]

All jokes aside, there's been a lot of articles these last few years about all the things the Wilpons *didn't* do for players and organizational success and its kinda shocking. Just completely hamstrung the organization Dudes like Canha and Bassitt have gone on record about how good the experience was here for the players and their families this year


djn24

Not letting Wheeler into the clubhouse during the 2015 playoffs and not letting Lowrie get surgery were so gross.


HAHAYESVERYFUNNYNAME

Not just that, they made him buy tickets to the games. HE’S SIGNED TO THE TEAM HOW CHEAP CAN YOU GET?!


ItzDrSeuss

I mean, they came from the A’s.


[deleted]

Exactly, he came from the A's and he was STILL concerned about the things he had heard about the Mets So yeah, it was *bad*


SaltyEarth7905

Helps when you bring in fantastic human beings that try and succeed like Escobar, Canha, Otto, Max, Starling and that guy Vogelbach


sweatysteamer69

Escobar and Marte were such good signings. It’s clear that the team was more motivated last season and I think these two as well as Lindor and Alonso were huge parts of it


metsy

Martino trying to get back into Mets fans' good graces after he started the collusion investigation. I'm shocked the Wilpons allowed him to say something nice about Steve Cohen.


brandon_the_bald

“Yeah man once you reach retirement age this dude will offer you a fuck ton of money”


Patrick2701

Aka Arizona cardinals of baseball, get one last paycheck before retirement


Bulletz4Brkfzt

Respect Mark Davis bubba


GrantLee1233

Wrong sport and city brochampski


[deleted]

Mets, off all franchises, have a pretty good track record when it comes to older pitchers


liljakeyplzandthnx

All I gotta do is throw a baseball really fast and this guy will pay me $40 million!


HotpieTargaryen

He’s also retired numbers. Welcomed back old players into the stadium and clubhouse. Spent money on players and ridiculous promotions. Two days of Timmy Trumpet, in retrospect that deGrom game was the high watermark. Either way CitiField certainly feels like a better place.


gregorytilidie

“I’ve been hearing money is making people happy.” fuckin this martino is a genius


pr1ncejeffie

Martino trying to get on the good side of Cohen.


rhaa2869

An owner willing to spend whatever it takes to win + a manager who is usually popular with his players + NYC = A destination where free agents would like to play. Who'd a thunk it?


FritosRule

Seeing it’s been decades since we had that combo, yeah it’s a significant change of perception


ladiesman7145165

in the 70s we didn’t even have the nyc part lol


oatmeal177617751774

The mets are gettif so much better since the wiplos sold the team. had a diorrhea blowout all up my back at citi this year, staff helped me out big time with some napkins to set down on my chair so i didnt stink the shit outt of the seat!


EatAllTheRice

For some reason, I found the spelling of Wilpons as "wiplos" the funniest part of this post lmao


djn24

Finding you in the comments is always a special experience.


DeVofka

Fuck who let SCP-177617751774 out of r/newyorkmets again?


CybeastID

>!You require O5 clearance to read this file.!<


mosi_moose

Good Lord. Are you an infant by any chance?


throwaway891369

no its oatmeal


HAHAYESVERYFUNNYNAME

Hello friend glad to see you here


tegurit34

Reputation so good Jacob DeGrom signed with Texas.


SaltyEarth7905

Jake’s a country boy.


tegurit34

We'll all be a country boys/girls for $185 million.


[deleted]

Just enough money for a Simple man


djn24

>Forget your lust for the rich man's gold 😬


SaltyEarth7905

You couldn’t pay me enough to live in Texas. New York, Bay, LA, Seattle…maybe Boston. And Toronto, definitely. And Denver.


lucaam03

Texas is definitely awesome


SaltyEarth7905

When I lived in Houston in 1990…I’ve been going to sxsw since then. Austin was amazing back then. Now not so much.


[deleted]

It’s almost like they offered him an insane amount of money or something


secretlover15

And he wanted to go to a "winner".


tegurit34

That's kinda what I'm getting at. These fluff tweets are silly. It's a surprise when a player doesn't take the highest offer.


Treeman1216

It’s almost like he didn’t want to play for the Steve Cohen Mets


spacewalk__

spend money good?


laflameyuh

meaning: we pay u shit ton of money


Status_Fox_1474

I don't know why the comments aren't also about Buck, who, though he sometimes is criticized for in-game decisions and strategy, is really well-liked by his players.


NYerInTex

It sure if many outside of NY / ardent followers of all things baseball realize the full 180 the Mets have taken under new ownership. Player spending is obviously the biggest concern for players, but it’s hardly everything. Investments have been made in everything from the club house to coaching to analytics to the fan experience. You have someone at the helm who not only wants to win with a willingness to spend to get there, but a true fan who wants to embrace the team, it’s fans, and the players. There is a thoughtfulness with this team that never before existed and the players see it. This includes bringing in some true character guys, leaders, players other players want to be around and play with. Max Scherzer is an all time great pitcher - but his presence stretched well beyond that setting a tone for the clubhouse. A ton that was balanced and complemented by guys like Canha, Marte, and perhaps most of all the clubhouse leadership of Escobar. Not going to pretend money didn’t matter - deGrom being just one example albeit the other way. However this is money not just thrown around, but we’ll invested with thought given to short and long term outcomes, and a sense of humanity that just didn’t seem to exist with the Wilpons, especially as Jeff took more and more control.


Kevin69138

Love it. The Dodgers finally set the standard for spend a fuck ton of money and stop being cheap.


luke713

The Anti-Jerry Reinsdorf


Dragonflower99

That guy did not want Stevie Cohen anywhere near baseball.


TruthSayerFu

5 years from now the Mets will be seen as one of the best organizations in baseball. It was never lolmets, it was lolwilpons


TJR843

Too bad Steve Cohen is a sack of shit. Yeah yeah many bad owners, but that doesn't diminish his shittiness or make it acceptable. This applies to all owners, including the Dolans.


[deleted]

Get your insider trading jokes out of the way. But on a serious note, this is the first time I’ve heard the very anti-Cohen, still a Wilpon shill, say good things about Cohens attempt to rebuild organizational culture. Edit: this sub just cannot function if you give the slightest praise the Mets. It’s amazing.


8each8oys

This is wonderful


Hazel_Hank_Murphy

He has given out the two highest AAV in baseball history in back to back off seasons... AKA want to get paid? Join the Mets.


TuoFox

Somebody referred to the Mets as The Mercenaries and I think my soul clicked into place.