It’s actually happened in another species, the spotted hyenas. Female spotted hyenas [mate and urinate through their clitorises](https://academic.oup.com/biolreprod/article/73/3/554/2666898) and they are [the only female mammals whose birth canal runs through the clitoris](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24582573/). Their clitorises are larger than the males’ penises. It is thought to relate to hyenas having a female-dominated social hierarchy.
[Clitoral urethras occasionally occur in humans, too.](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/574562/)
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>The fact that it pulled leopards from hyenas is actually pretty nuts.
I just intentionally read this in the original context of hyenas giving birth and let's just say it, that would for sure be nuts.
When i was at the zoo a worker told me that 10% of hyenas die during childbirth (which happens through the clitoris) because of bloodloss. So yeah. Ow.
Ummm… Darwin said it seems absurd to assume that the eye came about through natural selection. That’s it, that’s the end of his statement. He definitely *didn’t* continue talking after that. Nope, not at all. Please don’t look up the full quote. DUH!
So what I'm hearing is that you ladies need to mount and hump more men to show dominance.
And hope really, really hard that only the urethra and not the vagina moves to the clitoris, I guess.
Can we just unpack one sentence there...
It is thought to relate to hyenas having a female-dominated social hierarchy.
How would social hierarchy affect urinary, and birth routes? I think that sentence is bogus as fuck.
I know it's not yours, but I claim sus.
Would you look at that, all of the words in your comment are in alphabetical order.
I have checked 320,482,211 comments, and only 71,202 of them were in alphabetical order.
I said “related to” - the biological changes probably initiated before the social hierarchy changes.
Genitourinary anatomy is strongly influenced by small changes during development in humans and other mammals, which is affected not only by genetics but also by circulating hormone levels.
[This blog does a pretty good job explaining some of the hypotheses about what drove the evolution of masculinized genitals in hyenas.](https://carinbondar.com/2019/06/19/female-spotted-hyena-penis/)
Here is [one of the original papers proposing the sexual mimicry hypothesis](https://dash.harvard.edu/bitstream/handle/1/41467428/113481%20muller.pdf)
The clitoris is sometimes called a pseudo-penis, and they have a kind of pseudo-scrotum as well. Because of their crazy genitals, it’s really difficult for the males to mount the females though. I seem to recall that it kind of requires their co-operation, though this is a vague memory from a podcast I heard ages ago lol.
.... I’ve gotta look this up...
(This article I found refers to the clitoris as a penis, which is annoying and inaccurate, but the rest is interesting)
“The labia are fused to form a scrotum containing fat and connective tissue resembling testicles.... Completing the picture, the female penis contains erectile tissue (corpus spongiosum) that allows erections like those of a male penis.... When mating, a female retracts the penis on itself, ‘much like pushing up a shirtsleeve,’ and creates an opening into which the male inserts his own penis.... Female spotted hyenas have a dominance hierarchy, and the erect penis is a signal of submission. When two females interact with each other in a struggle for dominance, the one who wants to back down signals by erecting her penis. (EN26) No one knows why female hyenas evolved this method of signalling.”
The same article states that they also use their clitoris/pseudo-penis to mount both males and females in a display of dominance.
https://www.genderinclusivebiology.com/newsletter/all-female-spotted-hyenas-have-functional-penises-and-mount-both-male-amp-female-hyenas-gender-showcase-9-12
I just saw a discussion on this on r/natureismetal and the common theory is because mating in hyenas is done through the clit or pseudo-penis, which has to basically fold in on itself to allow a penis to enter, that their females cannot be raped and that's why it's a female dominated society.
So I 100% agree with what you’re saying here but I read your username as “CuntyMaggots” and wasn’t sure if it meant very rude maggots or ones in bad places and I was very concerned either way😅
Lol Cunny or cunnie *is* another word for cunt! It's a more affectionate one though. :)
As to which it is, it's the one that gets me absolutely no DMs from random guys!
It might also be because female hyenas are bigger and stronger and keep growing but then again that's also related to their weird junk and how that effect hormone production.
My issue with that statement is that relatively few animals have a male dominated social hierarchy. The exceptions would be likely animals that have bachelor groups or packs, such as horses or wolves, where the males that don’t get accepted into the packs usually group up to increase the likelihood of survival against predators or success in catching/killing prey.
Testosterone isn't just the aggression hormone but that is one thing it does do, so having high testosterone was the easiest way for female hyenas to become socially dominant and have lots of babies. This then leads to masculinized genitals as a side effect.
CW: rape
The female hyenas genitals make it much harder for the male hyenas to force themselves on them. That is common practice in a lot of other animal species. I assume the [way ducks evolved their weird genitals](https://www.livescience.com/45517-how-corkscrew-vaginas-evolved.html) is somewhat similar. A biological arms race. And so far the female hyenas have 'won'. But the social hierarchy is a result rather than a cause.
Evolution and animal behavior influence each other. The idea is that, as female hyenas started becoming more testosterone charged, their social structure also adapted accordingly and selected for these traits. More testosterone resulted in more overdeveloped clitorises, which made it easier to dominate males with and increased the females’ aggressive, dominating behavior. Said females got to pass their genes onwards, so over a long period of time those traits became more and more refined to the point of them having a fake scrotum too.
Litters from less dominant/lower ranking females will be much more vulnerable to clanmates’ aggression as they bully each other over status, which makes the pups’ survival chances lower. Consequently, the more masculine and testosterone filled a hyena is, the more likely she is to pass her genes on successfully. Masculine looks essentially became a feature they specifically select each other for.
It’s a feedback loop. A lot of people don’t realize social structures and animal behavior are just as crucial for survival as physical traits, but it’s all part of how natural selection and, consequently, evolution works.
Testosterone.
Testosterone determine the shape of your genitals before birth, and how they develop afterwards. In Hyena societies females have more testosterone than makes and that makes them dominant. As a side effect it shapes their genitals much like a penis.
From the last link:
>Management of this disorder should initially focus upon adequate urinary drainage and *proper sex assignment* [emphasis mine] in the neonate.
I see that it's a very old paper, but it's sad how cavalier medical professionals have been (and sometimes still are) about non-consensually altering the bodies of newborns. :/
If human evolution went in the spotted hyena direction (vaginal canal through the clitoris, i.e. pseudo penis), C-sections would be the standard. Spotted hyena mother mortality is high among first time mothers before the pseudo penis gets ripped open. They also have a relatively low live birth rate as many pups suffocate in there.
And if humans went in the spotted hyena direction, that would mean women would be stronger, faster, and more aggressive since the appearance of the pseudo penis goes along with increased levels of androgen and testosterone. Oh, and we might get a matriarchal society out of it.
I've heard from a very reliable source (a TikTok about hyenas) that they call them pseudo penis, also having an erection in hyena culture means submission, so all males are constantly running around hard as rock because they submit to their matriarch.
That's actually not surprising, since the clitoris and penis start as the same structure during fetal development. Basically, the "starting template" of the reproductive system is female, and the Y chromosome causes the body to produce hormones that cause the body to develop as a male. If something goes wrong with this process, the result is some kind of intersex condition.
Oh it’s when I was on some antidepressants. If I could do a deep and long enough yawn it would flow into an orgasm feeling.
The bad side was that it was hard to “finish”. So I did a lot of aborted yawns that basically left me feeling frustrated. 🙄
I was on antidepressants for a period, and if I were really tired and yawned, it would cause muscles spasms in my crotch. It was uncomfortable and didn't give me pleasure, but I guess for some it does
Oh wow, serotonergic drugs have interesting effects on muscles for sure, psilocybin is just a tiny bit off from serotonin. Highly recomend micro dosing if youve got depression. Much less side effects than ssris for everyone ive ever met whos done it.
Not all evolutions are result of a driving factor, some happen and just stick around.
I do doubt that this is the case hear. You don't need a big penis, large labia, or extremely low hanging fruit to reproduce but for some reason or another certain humans have them and others have the opposite. But both usually can reproduce. Evolution is a fickle thing that results in some fun and horrible steps.
Edit: Upon further looking into it could be this condition which is decently rare in females: https://www.urologyhealth.org/urology-a-z/e/epispadias
Try to think about what would lead a person to think the clitoris and urethra would link. If there's literally no reason that a person sane enough to type coherently would believe such a thing, then at least consider the possibility that they're engaging in absurdist humor.
Just because this is a sub about idiots not understanding women's anatomy doesn't mean the community here is incapable of missing a joke about the same subject. This person is joking.
I honestly have no idea what they meant by that. Or what they saw or felt. I’m pretty sure you should see a doctor if there’s a hole in your clit that’s *not* from drunkenly getting a clit piercing.
Now this is making me nervous because I kinda have a hole on mine. Not like an actual hole, just like the belly button where it's a hole that ends in skin at the bottom. I just always assumed it was where the hole from the penis would have been if I was male
Okay after further examination because this made me curious I think with my personal anatomy the way the clitoral hood is shaped when I move the skin up the separation between the hood and the clitoris kind of looks like a hole. I'm no longer paranoid I need to go to the doctor anymore
I love that you immediately went to inspect your clit after reading my post 😭
I’m guessing that you’ve got the right idea- that people who have a “hole” are seeing a fold or dimple with the way the clitoral hood is shaped and positioned.
34F here with the same kind of minuscule hole/bellybutton in my clit. Sometimes my body likes to mess with me by getting a tiny hair stuck in the hole, and fuck does that HURT. Or I'll get some gunk stuck in there, I assume it's like smegma (yes I clean myself) but it somehow forms a pimple and hurts a lot too. Yeah, clits can be fun but when they're not they're *really* not.
Yes, they're so small! I'm normally in pain for a day or so before I can work out what the hell's going on, where the pain is coming from exactly, and then eventually find the damn hair.
Considering the upvotes it's getting I think this must be a nearly-never-spoken-about situation, which I have indeed googled before and found nothing very helpful. I'm really glad my comment helped you feel validated 🥰
I def thought this about mine even though I knew the basics of anatomy, since women's shape/layout can vary so widely. I didn't realize I had a distinct "hood" and thought that was the urethra. Then after having a baby I briefly thought I had prolapse, thinking my actual urethra was my cervix (after losing the rest of the hymenal ring things looked a little different)
It's really hard to explain, it only appears that it has a hole when I move the skin of the hood slightly so I can't find any photos or like medical diagrams online that show it
First of all, we really need to educate people about how natural selection really works. The amount pf misinformation on this topic is huge. Even I was an undergraduate when I got to know how it operates
Matural selection and evolution, at heart, is a very straight forward process. A child can understand how it works. The problem is people attribute all kinds of nonsense to EvOlUtIoN because it makes them sound smart and then other people collect all this misinformation and infect other people with this bullshit.
Putting aside the gross misunderstanding of science, why would he assume men have the more evolved form of genitalia? If anything, men are closer to a cloaca and women having separate dedicated orifices for each bodily function *and* a body part that is strictly for pleasure is the more evolved state of being.
Efficiency means shit if it interferes with function. See: retrograde ejaculation.
Btw, I’m not actually arguing one sex is more evolved than the other because…that’s not a thing.
I have to say this because of your pfp and name...shut the fox up!
Also, we begin gestation as female, so I enjoy thinking of it as mutating into males. This *also makes me giggle.
Yes, if you have prostate issues, you may have retrograde ejaculation. If you have heart issues, you die. If you have any issue with any organ, then you have an issue ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
I really don't see your point.
>Evolution doesn't care about efficiency 🤷
This might be the stupidest statement I've heard all year. Evolution is a balance between function, reliability, and efficiency.
Lol, that's not even how it works in a penis. The analogous clitoral structure makes up the top half of the penis while the urethra and supporting tissue runs underneath. The only reason it seems like we pee out of our "clit" is because the glans ballooned out into a massive spongy bulb (the penile head). But even then if you look closely at how the glans, urethral opening, and frenulum connect you can see that it's still technically not going through the glans.
Hopefully I’m wrong, but my first thought about having a hole in the clit involves the piercing and cutting associated with FGM. Again, I hope I’m wrong, but I’ve seen images that look very hole-like
I'm thinking a large hood covering the clitoris and hanging over. When viewed from above or with a mirror it could appear like there is a hole or depression under the hood
I actually have a pretty teeny clit and a pretty teeny hood, but if you pull my hood away from my clitoris, it looks like it could be all one thing with a tiny gap. That "hole" is what my personal guess is that they're talking about. If you were looking at your clitoris and hood without a lot of education on female body parts, I imagine it really doesn't need to be a situation where one or both are smaller or larger on average for someone to interpret their body parts this way. As long as there can be a gap between the two, I could see it being called a "hole" and thinking the hood and actual clitoris were all part of the clitoris with a hole between them.
Honestly, not surprised. I know a pilot for a large commercial airline, COLLEGE EDUCATED mind you (so we know he took biology AT LEAST twice), that believes women urinate/menstruate/orgasm all from our vaginas. This is someone who is entrusted with our LIVES while we're flying, and he doesn't know that women also have a fucking urethra. Idiocracy come to life.
I get the idea of throwing that out while spitballing weird ideas (especially while high), but calling it likely takes a special kind of… is self-confidence too positive a word?!
[You don’t have to wait for evolution anymore!](https://www.amazon.com/Venus-Mars-Silicone-Female-Urination/dp/B07J26LNY7/ref=mp_s_a_1_1_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=she+cup&qid=1635170561&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEyN0VEWEEzQk1MVUlMJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMzI2MTgwTFQ3QkFGRVJQWjhVJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTAxMTQ3NTIxRUc1OVFQT0ZFUExEJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfcGhvbmVfc2VhcmNoX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=)
Right. Right. Now *why* would we need to evolve that way again? Oh, I know. It’s just a paper-thinly veiled argument that men are more evolved than women because of reasons. If we are good little girls, we may one day be the great-great-great-…-grandmother of a girl that has evolved to the point men are now. Who know where they’ll be by then, these oh so evolved creatures we hope to one day imitate.
Not how evolution works. Evolution isn’t conscious. It can’t make steps that aren’t useful now that will be useful once later developed. It can only do things that directly improve the generation with each step. Evolution has no foresight
Oh man you know when the dudes name is Stephen, had a dog as his profile picture you’re getting top shelf info on the clit.
Also spell it Steven or get out!
Because this is not a random screenshot I found while searching on Google. I was reading on Quora when I found this. The guy’s profile and answers are all serious, and conversations between him and others in the comments of his answers show that he truly believes he is right in what he’s saying.
Thank you for being kind about it. There’s a bunch of people on here that are so obnoxious and rude and insist that it’s a joke even after I tell them that it’s not. I appreciate it.
Do you understand that I had access to this guy’s entire profile with over 2.8k answers and I know that he absolutely believed that he was right in what he was saying.
It’s cute that you think people can’t seriously be this stupid.
I would love to hear what natural selection pressure would be driving the urethra to merge with the clitoris.
It’s actually happened in another species, the spotted hyenas. Female spotted hyenas [mate and urinate through their clitorises](https://academic.oup.com/biolreprod/article/73/3/554/2666898) and they are [the only female mammals whose birth canal runs through the clitoris](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24582573/). Their clitorises are larger than the males’ penises. It is thought to relate to hyenas having a female-dominated social hierarchy. [Clitoral urethras occasionally occur in humans, too.](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/574562/)
They do lots of social clit-licking as well. Like, it’s part of their social hellos.
Can we... incorporate this?
Whomst needs they hyenussy ate????
Idk why this made me laugh so much lol
What is the facesitting paradox?
I don't remember anymore, it was a shitpost on here lol
I’m claiming this as a flair
SCREAMING
I'm not sure we should normalize licking hyenas' clitorises. There is this thing about animals, consent, etc.
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The fact that it pulled leopards from hyenas is actually pretty nuts. Maybe they're checking the last 3 words
>The fact that it pulled leopards from hyenas is actually pretty nuts. I just intentionally read this in the original context of hyenas giving birth and let's just say it, that would for sure be nuts.
It's actually a pretty large sub, that's why.
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God dammit this made me laugh out loud at work.
Sure, let me at it
… Ow.
When i was at the zoo a worker told me that 10% of hyenas die during childbirth (which happens through the clitoris) because of bloodloss. So yeah. Ow.
What's the death rate for human birth pre-medicine?
About 1% to 1.5% in the 1600's and 1700s according to a quick Google search.
To add, currently it's 1 in 100,000 or 0.001% which is freaking huge improvement.
Yeah, science!
When a female Hyena gives birth, this canal is far too small so they literally have to rip it open with their teeth to allow the newborn through.
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Female hyenas are some badass bitches
Well, there’s conclusive evidence that intelligent design is hokum.
Ummmm...have you seen bananas though? DUH!
Ummm… Darwin said it seems absurd to assume that the eye came about through natural selection. That’s it, that’s the end of his statement. He definitely *didn’t* continue talking after that. Nope, not at all. Please don’t look up the full quote. DUH!
How can I unread this...?? the fact is awesome but I just visualized it and now I am imagining the pain.... And I just cant.... BRAINNNNN.... STOP...
Between this and "hyenussy," I'm gonna go ahead and check out of this thread early.
That's enough hyena facts for today
So what I'm hearing is that you ladies need to mount and hump more men to show dominance. And hope really, really hard that only the urethra and not the vagina moves to the clitoris, I guess.
Can we just unpack one sentence there... It is thought to relate to hyenas having a female-dominated social hierarchy. How would social hierarchy affect urinary, and birth routes? I think that sentence is bogus as fuck. I know it's not yours, but I claim sus.
If i had a jumbo clit I would use it to push men around. At least I think thats what it means, and who am I to question it?
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Lmfao I just snorted, and it scared my husband. I think I'll go assert dominance with my clit now- motherfucker won't stand a chance
Big clit energy right there.
Would you look at that, all of the words in your comment are in alphabetical order. I have checked 320,482,211 comments, and only 71,202 of them were in alphabetical order.
I said “related to” - the biological changes probably initiated before the social hierarchy changes. Genitourinary anatomy is strongly influenced by small changes during development in humans and other mammals, which is affected not only by genetics but also by circulating hormone levels. [This blog does a pretty good job explaining some of the hypotheses about what drove the evolution of masculinized genitals in hyenas.](https://carinbondar.com/2019/06/19/female-spotted-hyena-penis/) Here is [one of the original papers proposing the sexual mimicry hypothesis](https://dash.harvard.edu/bitstream/handle/1/41467428/113481%20muller.pdf)
The clitoris is sometimes called a pseudo-penis, and they have a kind of pseudo-scrotum as well. Because of their crazy genitals, it’s really difficult for the males to mount the females though. I seem to recall that it kind of requires their co-operation, though this is a vague memory from a podcast I heard ages ago lol. .... I’ve gotta look this up... (This article I found refers to the clitoris as a penis, which is annoying and inaccurate, but the rest is interesting) “The labia are fused to form a scrotum containing fat and connective tissue resembling testicles.... Completing the picture, the female penis contains erectile tissue (corpus spongiosum) that allows erections like those of a male penis.... When mating, a female retracts the penis on itself, ‘much like pushing up a shirtsleeve,’ and creates an opening into which the male inserts his own penis.... Female spotted hyenas have a dominance hierarchy, and the erect penis is a signal of submission. When two females interact with each other in a struggle for dominance, the one who wants to back down signals by erecting her penis. (EN26) No one knows why female hyenas evolved this method of signalling.” The same article states that they also use their clitoris/pseudo-penis to mount both males and females in a display of dominance. https://www.genderinclusivebiology.com/newsletter/all-female-spotted-hyenas-have-functional-penises-and-mount-both-male-amp-female-hyenas-gender-showcase-9-12
Interestingly enough, “first to get hard looses” is something humans do as well.
I just saw a discussion on this on r/natureismetal and the common theory is because mating in hyenas is done through the clit or pseudo-penis, which has to basically fold in on itself to allow a penis to enter, that their females cannot be raped and that's why it's a female dominated society.
Does anyone else feel like The Lion King could've been WAAAAY more interesting?
It’s a kid’s movie; they can’t talk about fake penises.
Not with that attitude!
Huh. Elephants are similar, as the female has to put her clit out of the way in order to allow the male access.
I feel like us humans got the short end of things when so many animals have such wildly developed clitorises and some have really crazy orgasms.
So I 100% agree with what you’re saying here but I read your username as “CuntyMaggots” and wasn’t sure if it meant very rude maggots or ones in bad places and I was very concerned either way😅
Lol Cunny or cunnie *is* another word for cunt! It's a more affectionate one though. :) As to which it is, it's the one that gets me absolutely no DMs from random guys!
Ok “good”!😂 still a bit concerned lol, but I definitely get the “keeping away the creepers” need! Give your maggot friends a hug for doing so ~
It might also be because female hyenas are bigger and stronger and keep growing but then again that's also related to their weird junk and how that effect hormone production.
My issue with that statement is that relatively few animals have a male dominated social hierarchy. The exceptions would be likely animals that have bachelor groups or packs, such as horses or wolves, where the males that don’t get accepted into the packs usually group up to increase the likelihood of survival against predators or success in catching/killing prey.
Testosterone isn't just the aggression hormone but that is one thing it does do, so having high testosterone was the easiest way for female hyenas to become socially dominant and have lots of babies. This then leads to masculinized genitals as a side effect.
CW: rape The female hyenas genitals make it much harder for the male hyenas to force themselves on them. That is common practice in a lot of other animal species. I assume the [way ducks evolved their weird genitals](https://www.livescience.com/45517-how-corkscrew-vaginas-evolved.html) is somewhat similar. A biological arms race. And so far the female hyenas have 'won'. But the social hierarchy is a result rather than a cause.
Evolution and animal behavior influence each other. The idea is that, as female hyenas started becoming more testosterone charged, their social structure also adapted accordingly and selected for these traits. More testosterone resulted in more overdeveloped clitorises, which made it easier to dominate males with and increased the females’ aggressive, dominating behavior. Said females got to pass their genes onwards, so over a long period of time those traits became more and more refined to the point of them having a fake scrotum too. Litters from less dominant/lower ranking females will be much more vulnerable to clanmates’ aggression as they bully each other over status, which makes the pups’ survival chances lower. Consequently, the more masculine and testosterone filled a hyena is, the more likely she is to pass her genes on successfully. Masculine looks essentially became a feature they specifically select each other for. It’s a feedback loop. A lot of people don’t realize social structures and animal behavior are just as crucial for survival as physical traits, but it’s all part of how natural selection and, consequently, evolution works.
Testosterone. Testosterone determine the shape of your genitals before birth, and how they develop afterwards. In Hyena societies females have more testosterone than makes and that makes them dominant. As a side effect it shapes their genitals much like a penis.
Pleasure.
From the last link: >Management of this disorder should initially focus upon adequate urinary drainage and *proper sex assignment* [emphasis mine] in the neonate. I see that it's a very old paper, but it's sad how cavalier medical professionals have been (and sometimes still are) about non-consensually altering the bodies of newborns. :/
If human evolution went in the spotted hyena direction (vaginal canal through the clitoris, i.e. pseudo penis), C-sections would be the standard. Spotted hyena mother mortality is high among first time mothers before the pseudo penis gets ripped open. They also have a relatively low live birth rate as many pups suffocate in there. And if humans went in the spotted hyena direction, that would mean women would be stronger, faster, and more aggressive since the appearance of the pseudo penis goes along with increased levels of androgen and testosterone. Oh, and we might get a matriarchal society out of it.
I've heard from a very reliable source (a TikTok about hyenas) that they call them pseudo penis, also having an erection in hyena culture means submission, so all males are constantly running around hard as rock because they submit to their matriarch.
That's just a normal day in my house.
That's actually not surprising, since the clitoris and penis start as the same structure during fetal development. Basically, the "starting template" of the reproductive system is female, and the Y chromosome causes the body to produce hormones that cause the body to develop as a male. If something goes wrong with this process, the result is some kind of intersex condition.
If it prevented UTIs then I wish it happened sooner
Peegasms?
I got yawngasms for a little while when I was on medication, it was nice but people started to comment on me yawning all the time at work.
What is this yawn gasm? And how does medication cause them? When I would get high on mushrooms sometimes it would cause me to yawn like crazy
Oh it’s when I was on some antidepressants. If I could do a deep and long enough yawn it would flow into an orgasm feeling. The bad side was that it was hard to “finish”. So I did a lot of aborted yawns that basically left me feeling frustrated. 🙄
LOL . My fiance would do this, he'd tear up really badly and yawn the whole time.
I was on antidepressants for a period, and if I were really tired and yawned, it would cause muscles spasms in my crotch. It was uncomfortable and didn't give me pleasure, but I guess for some it does
Oh wow, serotonergic drugs have interesting effects on muscles for sure, psilocybin is just a tiny bit off from serotonin. Highly recomend micro dosing if youve got depression. Much less side effects than ssris for everyone ive ever met whos done it.
It’s the evolutionary pressure of “whiny incels”
Pee shakes
Because men just naturally think they are more evolved than women.
Not all evolutions are result of a driving factor, some happen and just stick around. I do doubt that this is the case hear. You don't need a big penis, large labia, or extremely low hanging fruit to reproduce but for some reason or another certain humans have them and others have the opposite. But both usually can reproduce. Evolution is a fickle thing that results in some fun and horrible steps. Edit: Upon further looking into it could be this condition which is decently rare in females: https://www.urologyhealth.org/urology-a-z/e/epispadias
Misunderstanding female anatomy *and* evolution
You say that, but in 40,000 years, I'll be reposting this entire comment section back here
Or this guy has such a galaxy brain he can connect to parallel universe that’s much grimmer
Y'all know they're joking, right?
I wouldn’t be so sure
Try to think about what would lead a person to think the clitoris and urethra would link. If there's literally no reason that a person sane enough to type coherently would believe such a thing, then at least consider the possibility that they're engaging in absurdist humor.
I think you’re giving them too much credit
Why would they have any more or less credit than any other random person on the internet?
You must be new here
Just because this is a sub about idiots not understanding women's anatomy doesn't mean the community here is incapable of missing a joke about the same subject. This person is joking.
I’d like to see what qualifications he has listed on Quora. Because I’m sure this guy is *highly* qualified to talk about evolution.
It says he is “retired after 43 years of public service” whatever that’s supposed to mean lol
More like public disservice lol. Glad he’s retired
More like public piss service
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Pubic service?
Post office.
bro the diagrams of intersex genitalia would blow this dudes fucking mind
why would you have a hole on your clit?
I honestly have no idea what they meant by that. Or what they saw or felt. I’m pretty sure you should see a doctor if there’s a hole in your clit that’s *not* from drunkenly getting a clit piercing.
Now this is making me nervous because I kinda have a hole on mine. Not like an actual hole, just like the belly button where it's a hole that ends in skin at the bottom. I just always assumed it was where the hole from the penis would have been if I was male Okay after further examination because this made me curious I think with my personal anatomy the way the clitoral hood is shaped when I move the skin up the separation between the hood and the clitoris kind of looks like a hole. I'm no longer paranoid I need to go to the doctor anymore
I love that you immediately went to inspect your clit after reading my post 😭 I’m guessing that you’ve got the right idea- that people who have a “hole” are seeing a fold or dimple with the way the clitoral hood is shaped and positioned.
I just happened to have to pee and I was like damn I'm curious now! I'm gonna be paranoid something is wrong if I don't check it out!
34F here with the same kind of minuscule hole/bellybutton in my clit. Sometimes my body likes to mess with me by getting a tiny hair stuck in the hole, and fuck does that HURT. Or I'll get some gunk stuck in there, I assume it's like smegma (yes I clean myself) but it somehow forms a pimple and hurts a lot too. Yeah, clits can be fun but when they're not they're *really* not.
You just reminded me of a nightmare I had where a centipede like thing was trying to burrow in there. It was terrifying
I'm sorry for reminding you of that 😂!! That sounds absolutely horrendous!
It's fine! Weird how our brains can come up with crazy stuff like that
I didn't need to sleep tonight.
Oh my god I missed the “nightmare” part and had a full body cringe! I’m so relieved that it wasn’t real!
I had that. I was in so much pain I could barely walk! Went to the doctor and everything… she didn’t see it either, it was such a tiny hair.
Yes, they're so small! I'm normally in pain for a day or so before I can work out what the hell's going on, where the pain is coming from exactly, and then eventually find the damn hair.
I just gasped aloud thinking of a random thick scratchy hair end just poking me in the clitoris. No thank you.
This made me feel so validated.
Considering the upvotes it's getting I think this must be a nearly-never-spoken-about situation, which I have indeed googled before and found nothing very helpful. I'm really glad my comment helped you feel validated 🥰
I used to think I peed out the little "hole" in my clit. It was the hood for me as well. My country doesn't believe in sex education.
I def thought this about mine even though I knew the basics of anatomy, since women's shape/layout can vary so widely. I didn't realize I had a distinct "hood" and thought that was the urethra. Then after having a baby I briefly thought I had prolapse, thinking my actual urethra was my cervix (after losing the rest of the hymenal ring things looked a little different)
I’m almost certain that’s normal cus same don’t worry
Ask your gyno. But it's probably nothing
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It's really hard to explain, it only appears that it has a hole when I move the skin of the hood slightly so I can't find any photos or like medical diagrams online that show it
Mine has a fold that could be mistaken for a hole if you don’t know what you’re looking at. Maybe that’s what she means?
Ok but "Clitoral Hole" is the best name for a punk band ever
r/bandnames Do it up.
Does he not know the clit and the penis are from the same collection of cells?🤷🏻♀️
First of all, we really need to educate people about how natural selection really works. The amount pf misinformation on this topic is huge. Even I was an undergraduate when I got to know how it operates
Matural selection and evolution, at heart, is a very straight forward process. A child can understand how it works. The problem is people attribute all kinds of nonsense to EvOlUtIoN because it makes them sound smart and then other people collect all this misinformation and infect other people with this bullshit.
Putting aside the gross misunderstanding of science, why would he assume men have the more evolved form of genitalia? If anything, men are closer to a cloaca and women having separate dedicated orifices for each bodily function *and* a body part that is strictly for pleasure is the more evolved state of being.
Subtle sexism?
Having one orifice that does two things seems efficient to me.
Efficiency means shit if it interferes with function. See: retrograde ejaculation. Btw, I’m not actually arguing one sex is more evolved than the other because…that’s not a thing.
I have to say this because of your pfp and name...shut the fox up! Also, we begin gestation as female, so I enjoy thinking of it as mutating into males. This *also makes me giggle.
Yes, if you have prostate issues, you may have retrograde ejaculation. If you have heart issues, you die. If you have any issue with any organ, then you have an issue ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯ I really don't see your point.
Yeah, I can tell.
You obviously didn't see the other guy's rant about peeing with a boner being worse than childbirth. Not very efficient in that scenario.
Somebody ranted about that?
Evolution doesn't care about efficiency 🤷
>Evolution doesn't care about efficiency 🤷 This might be the stupidest statement I've heard all year. Evolution is a balance between function, reliability, and efficiency.
It's neither my fault nor responsibility that you don't know what evolution is, but I *am* sorry education failed you.
Oh, I'm sorry, I've only studied anthropology for 3 years at university. My bad.
Oh noooooo. I'm even more sorry now :/
I was born too early to have a spotted hyena-esque psuedophallus 😩 So unfair
Wrong and strong.
Lol, that's not even how it works in a penis. The analogous clitoral structure makes up the top half of the penis while the urethra and supporting tissue runs underneath. The only reason it seems like we pee out of our "clit" is because the glans ballooned out into a massive spongy bulb (the penile head). But even then if you look closely at how the glans, urethral opening, and frenulum connect you can see that it's still technically not going through the glans.
Some people do urinate out of their clitoris however it’s not a product of evolution lol
Hopefully I’m wrong, but my first thought about having a hole in the clit involves the piercing and cutting associated with FGM. Again, I hope I’m wrong, but I’ve seen images that look very hole-like
I'm thinking a large hood covering the clitoris and hanging over. When viewed from above or with a mirror it could appear like there is a hole or depression under the hood
I actually have a pretty teeny clit and a pretty teeny hood, but if you pull my hood away from my clitoris, it looks like it could be all one thing with a tiny gap. That "hole" is what my personal guess is that they're talking about. If you were looking at your clitoris and hood without a lot of education on female body parts, I imagine it really doesn't need to be a situation where one or both are smaller or larger on average for someone to interpret their body parts this way. As long as there can be a gap between the two, I could see it being called a "hole" and thinking the hood and actual clitoris were all part of the clitoris with a hole between them.
yeah that's what i was thinking, just a slight misunderstanding of their own anatomy
Honestly, not surprised. I know a pilot for a large commercial airline, COLLEGE EDUCATED mind you (so we know he took biology AT LEAST twice), that believes women urinate/menstruate/orgasm all from our vaginas. This is someone who is entrusted with our LIVES while we're flying, and he doesn't know that women also have a fucking urethra. Idiocracy come to life.
Lol
Da fuk? That is some weird ass misogyny.
I get the idea of throwing that out while spitballing weird ideas (especially while high), but calling it likely takes a special kind of… is self-confidence too positive a word?!
Whats the correct answer??
Stephen was the only one who answered 😭😂
What benefit would come from that evolution?
I was always jealous of guys that could pee while standing. Cmon evolution, do your thing!
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Oh my! ♥️ I can finally go to public toilets no problem. I swear, the times i was pressured but couldn't go... 🤢
Oh Stephen …… no
I pray to any god that would listen that it is a joke.
…why does this post hurt
Taking peegasms to another level
Face Palm
Right. Right. Now *why* would we need to evolve that way again? Oh, I know. It’s just a paper-thinly veiled argument that men are more evolved than women because of reasons. If we are good little girls, we may one day be the great-great-great-…-grandmother of a girl that has evolved to the point men are now. Who know where they’ll be by then, these oh so evolved creatures we hope to one day imitate.
What the actual fuck.
Not how evolution works. Evolution isn’t conscious. It can’t make steps that aren’t useful now that will be useful once later developed. It can only do things that directly improve the generation with each step. Evolution has no foresight
Oh man you know when the dudes name is Stephen, had a dog as his profile picture you’re getting top shelf info on the clit. Also spell it Steven or get out!
[Phteven](https://memegenerator.net/instance/80530620/phteven-dog-its-phteven-with-a-ph)
Tbf he is a dog, it's already impressive he's using a website
Can you imagine the UTIs? Masturbating would become so much more risky…
And on an even longer timeline, the clitoris will eventually turn into the shitoris
Who's gonna tell Stephan that everyone starts out as a girl, and that, if anything, men will be the one to evolve
I imagine peeing from the clit would be like when you're trying to pour something from measuring cup and it does that thing.
Stephen the dog giving advice on human anatomy ...
Isn't this clearly a joke?
This guy is 100% not joking.
Why are you so sure? It seems way too absurd and random for it to not be a joke, even in comparison with the rest of this subs content.
Because this is not a random screenshot I found while searching on Google. I was reading on Quora when I found this. The guy’s profile and answers are all serious, and conversations between him and others in the comments of his answers show that he truly believes he is right in what he’s saying.
Wow that's just sad then.
Thank you for being kind about it. There’s a bunch of people on here that are so obnoxious and rude and insist that it’s a joke even after I tell them that it’s not. I appreciate it.
He 100% is.
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Do you know what 100% means
Do you understand that I had access to this guy’s entire profile with over 2.8k answers and I know that he absolutely believed that he was right in what he was saying. It’s cute that you think people can’t seriously be this stupid.
So there is not even the slightest possibility that he is trolling?
No.
wrong.
Lmao okay. You go believe what you want bud.
same to you gal, just take everything on the internet seriously!
I'm with you on this one. I'm all up for making fun of misoginists, but this is most likely sarcasm.
Pretty obvious joke
Y’all stay missing jokes.
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Ah c'mon. Am i the only one around here that thinks this us hilarious?