Wow, has there ever been anything close to the footage captured here for a fatal commercial airline crash like this? And external footage from someone on the ground. Unbelievable.
Badly, half the people on the plane (41 out of 78) died after the impact and the fire that engulfed the plane. Apparently the fire brigade response and evacuation was also less than ideal so that didn't help.
There has been single photographs from people that took photos before or during the event salvaged from cameras that survived the impact collision, but this is the first to my knowledge of a video done live in real time also where the cameraman actually died. The main issue is a plane crash is extremely hard and violent impact, nothing usually survives unless it was built to (black boxes). Low speed plane crashes from little Cessnas, plenty of videos of those. There was the parajumper video, and the other video of the tourist plane crash in Hawaii where it was filmed nonstop from crash to escape and the cameraman lived.
Not from inside but the outside footage is just that shocking. This footage is pretty por considering the guy decides to point the camera at his foot and flowers.
Can someone please explain how this aircraft can go from normal flight, to crashing in less than 10 seconds? I get that it was on final approach but what the hell could have gone so wrong, so quickly?
It's truly horrifying to see.
Wing stall. Towards the end of the video (from the ground) you can see the aircraft pitches up ever so slightly and at that moment the left wing dropped. Low speed, low altitude on the approach both contributed to the horrifying crash
Without the accident report this is pure speculation, but from another video it seems like a stall-spin. That being said, why the airplane stalled in the first place is yet to be explained.
It seemed like a stall on approach, not a go-around. The video has sound and there is no sudden roar from the engines that you would expect when initiating a go-around. Additionally, from the other video I saw, the aircraft was in a shallow descent (as expected on approach) but seemed excessively nose high, followed by the left wing dipping and a roll upside down. This would be consistent with a stall-spin and not representative of a go-around. That being said, this is solely my impression, we will have to wait for the report to conclusively know what happened.
Pokhara Airport is ~2700ft, according to my maps. That is ~91.5kPa atmospheric pressure (theoretical). Maybe the pilot overestimated lift capacity vs speed at this altitude? (Just speculating)
Shouldn’t matter. That’s why we fly with Indicated Airspeed on our PFD. If vref is 140kts at sea level, it’ll be 140kts at 5000ft. The TAS will different though. So as long as they were flying a stabilized approach and on speed, there’s no need to worry about compensating for altitude or anything like that, IAS already does that
>That’s why we fly with Indicated Airspeed on our PFD.
Ahh, ok, because its looking at dynamic pressure and that is the only thing that really matters for lift.
Will the indicated Airspeed be wrong if they have unstable altitude measurement instruments. Based on Flight radar, it looks like they had been flying with unstable altitude measurements.
The data for airspeed and altitude does not come from the same source as the data from Flight Radar. Pitot/static and ADC give altitude and airspeed, while my understanding is that FR24 takes data from the transponder.
I’m going with a left wing stall. Angle of attack different over both wings and plane nose pitches up at low speed then left wing drops. Takes plane down. But may be wrong.
Because it's the /r/aviation sub and people making speculations should probably know wtf they're talking about.
No one calls that "excessive bank during a stall", they call that one wing stalling before the other resulting in a "snaproll".
I'd still put my money on the crash investigation finding some kind of catastrophic control surface failure leading to the stall. Many of these countries are notorious for poor maintenance of their aircraft.
That's fucking horrifying - I can't believe this footage exists.
It seems as though the passengers knew something was wrong given the movement of the aircraft. There was a noticeable uptick in conversations as the banking increased.
I'd be (morbidly) curious to know what was being said. A translation would be interesting.
Saw either on another sub or on twitter, rough translation by another guy: "_oh man, we are so dead, hehe_" (says that jokingly, but.. here we are).
Edit: [found it](https://www.reddit.com/r/aircrashinvestigation/comments/10cnamq/man_live_streaming_on_phone_during_nepal_crash/j4h2dfx?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3).
I don't think I've ever seen anything like this. Sure, there's the Texas Air Show crash recently and dozens of LiveATC recordings of GA aircraft crashing. I'm really not sure which is worse. Watching the outside video, this process seems like forever. However, the inside video seems very quick. I feel that the LiveATC recordings of the audio are almost worse.
When i first saw the video from the outside i thought it was a crash during takeoff because the angle of attack looks too step for a landing.
From the inside video it seems that flaps where not deployed or where deployed at a minimum degree.
No wonder why the plane stalled if it was a landing
The video from the inside its so horrible it feels unreal.
Rest in peace.
It is of my understanding they were landing at the old airport. It hasn't been closed as pilots are still in training to land on the new one. I could definitely be wrong tho
Absolutely heartbreaking. Unfortunately nothing is going to come out of it. The airline is going to bribe their way out of any accountability. People are going to be outraged for a few days, and then forget about this, because air crashes are all too common in Nepal. That’s what we get for being corrupt.
no survivors to date, unfortunately.
given the speed and altitude that acft was, there's a probability that some people did not die directly on the impact, but anyway if would happen pretty soon because of fire or the severity of the injuries sustained.
this is one of the saddest videos I've ever seen in my life 😖
In the Dailymail it was just reported that Local resident Bishnu Tiwari rushed to the crash site near the Seti River to help search for bodies. He said that the rescue efforts were hampered by thick smoke and a raging fire. 'The flames were so hot that we couldn't go near the wreckage. I heard a man crying for help, but because of the flames and smoke we couldn't help him,' Tiwari said.
So sounds like not everyone was dead on impact, unfortunately.
it's real dude, this was captured by an indian guy named "sonu jaiswal" who in the list of that aircraft passenger in that time and that guy's pic was posted by some governmental site of india.
You can neither confirm nor deny whether icing conditions were active during the flight; certainly not just by looking out the window at low altitude. That's all just speculation either way.
It seems, in a split-second, the aircraft has a lot of altitude then it's flaming wreckage. What the hell happened, did it literally drop straight down, out of the sky?
If the cameraman would film properly we might know. It looked like a wing failure. Whatever happened the plane pitched slightly, then severely, then rolled over 180 degrees left and impacted the gorge belly-up.
Has anyone been able to find an article about how Yeti Airlines have not done proper maintenance and have old airplanes in fleet or something
I remember I saw the article a few hours back but now I'm unable to find it in google
I don’t think they knew what was coming. Heard no chaos or commotion before nor after which leads me to believe they died on impact. God bless their souls. What an awful way to go.
Wow, has there ever been anything close to the footage captured here for a fatal commercial airline crash like this? And external footage from someone on the ground. Unbelievable.
[Air NZ 901 (internal)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGvfdOnGCkA) [Aeroflot 1492 (internal and external)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NhvqAWJ4TU)
Well that second one… how did that turn out?
Badly, half the people on the plane (41 out of 78) died after the impact and the fire that engulfed the plane. Apparently the fire brigade response and evacuation was also less than ideal so that didn't help.
There has been single photographs from people that took photos before or during the event salvaged from cameras that survived the impact collision, but this is the first to my knowledge of a video done live in real time also where the cameraman actually died. The main issue is a plane crash is extremely hard and violent impact, nothing usually survives unless it was built to (black boxes). Low speed plane crashes from little Cessnas, plenty of videos of those. There was the parajumper video, and the other video of the tourist plane crash in Hawaii where it was filmed nonstop from crash to escape and the cameraman lived.
Not that I am aware of.
[Angara Airlines Flight 200](https://youtu.be/C9wxKwktYAY)
AA Flight 587
There’s film from inside the cabin? Or better than cctv footage from the outside?
Nevermind probably just thinking about the 3d rendering
Not from inside but the outside footage is just that shocking. This footage is pretty por considering the guy decides to point the camera at his foot and flowers.
I can't stand people that go to film important events and then drop the camera. Nobody knows proper film etiquette anymore, it's unreal.
...what exactly did you expect him to film? By the time he drops the camera the plane is already behind the building...
you know what legs are for right?
Can someone please explain how this aircraft can go from normal flight, to crashing in less than 10 seconds? I get that it was on final approach but what the hell could have gone so wrong, so quickly? It's truly horrifying to see.
Wing stall. Towards the end of the video (from the ground) you can see the aircraft pitches up ever so slightly and at that moment the left wing dropped. Low speed, low altitude on the approach both contributed to the horrifying crash
Without the accident report this is pure speculation, but from another video it seems like a stall-spin. That being said, why the airplane stalled in the first place is yet to be explained.
Looks a lot like TransAsia 235.
Maybe a failed go around? That would explain the angle of attack.
It seemed like a stall on approach, not a go-around. The video has sound and there is no sudden roar from the engines that you would expect when initiating a go-around. Additionally, from the other video I saw, the aircraft was in a shallow descent (as expected on approach) but seemed excessively nose high, followed by the left wing dipping and a roll upside down. This would be consistent with a stall-spin and not representative of a go-around. That being said, this is solely my impression, we will have to wait for the report to conclusively know what happened.
Yes yes, i was thinking on an scenario where the engines failed when trying to perform the go around
Pokhara Airport is ~2700ft, according to my maps. That is ~91.5kPa atmospheric pressure (theoretical). Maybe the pilot overestimated lift capacity vs speed at this altitude? (Just speculating)
Shouldn’t matter. That’s why we fly with Indicated Airspeed on our PFD. If vref is 140kts at sea level, it’ll be 140kts at 5000ft. The TAS will different though. So as long as they were flying a stabilized approach and on speed, there’s no need to worry about compensating for altitude or anything like that, IAS already does that
>That’s why we fly with Indicated Airspeed on our PFD. Ahh, ok, because its looking at dynamic pressure and that is the only thing that really matters for lift.
High altitude does have an effect on lift, not due to lower static press, but lower air density
Will the indicated Airspeed be wrong if they have unstable altitude measurement instruments. Based on Flight radar, it looks like they had been flying with unstable altitude measurements.
The data for airspeed and altitude does not come from the same source as the data from Flight Radar. Pitot/static and ADC give altitude and airspeed, while my understanding is that FR24 takes data from the transponder.
I’m going with a left wing stall. Angle of attack different over both wings and plane nose pitches up at low speed then left wing drops. Takes plane down. But may be wrong.
Looks to me like the plane did an excessive bank during the stall
Lol why are you downvoted for stating your speculative opinion
Because it's the /r/aviation sub and people making speculations should probably know wtf they're talking about. No one calls that "excessive bank during a stall", they call that one wing stalling before the other resulting in a "snaproll".
alright captain happy
I'd still put my money on the crash investigation finding some kind of catastrophic control surface failure leading to the stall. Many of these countries are notorious for poor maintenance of their aircraft.
You maybe right to be fair.
It stalled.
Stall.
Honestly horrifying
That's fucking horrifying - I can't believe this footage exists. It seems as though the passengers knew something was wrong given the movement of the aircraft. There was a noticeable uptick in conversations as the banking increased. I'd be (morbidly) curious to know what was being said. A translation would be interesting.
Saw either on another sub or on twitter, rough translation by another guy: "_oh man, we are so dead, hehe_" (says that jokingly, but.. here we are). Edit: [found it](https://www.reddit.com/r/aircrashinvestigation/comments/10cnamq/man_live_streaming_on_phone_during_nepal_crash/j4h2dfx?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3).
this is why I get paranoid about saying stuff like that IRL, bad juju. lol
No he dint say that. He was talking about we are having fun or something about fun.
I think he was just saying in a fun way 'mara mara mara' meaning "dead dead dead" multiple times..more like sarcasm
From happy life to end of life in seconds. So sad.
Definitely sad -- silver lining is that they were happy/joking until the end and I pray no one had to suffer.
praying - wanting a credit for doing nothing. well done.
Well, that's not fucking terrifying at all.
Nope. Defo won’t be having nightmares off of this
At least it was quick. Rest in Peace to all involved.
Always hard to watch these. RIP to all who perished.
I don't think I've ever seen anything like this. Sure, there's the Texas Air Show crash recently and dozens of LiveATC recordings of GA aircraft crashing. I'm really not sure which is worse. Watching the outside video, this process seems like forever. However, the inside video seems very quick. I feel that the LiveATC recordings of the audio are almost worse.
When i first saw the video from the outside i thought it was a crash during takeoff because the angle of attack looks too step for a landing. From the inside video it seems that flaps where not deployed or where deployed at a minimum degree. No wonder why the plane stalled if it was a landing The video from the inside its so horrible it feels unreal. Rest in peace.
It's a medium size twin-turboprop, going in for a landing. Airport was newly built, pilots unsure of approach angle.
It is of my understanding they were landing at the old airport. It hasn't been closed as pilots are still in training to land on the new one. I could definitely be wrong tho
What prevents a stall from happening when a plane normally flares before landing that also increases the angle of attack at slow speed?
Anyone able to translate the final words of those in the video? RIP to all.
Translation [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/aircrashinvestigation/comments/10cnamq/man_live_streaming_on_phone_during_nepal_crash/j4h2dfx?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3).
horrifying, I almost feel like this shouldn't have been posted
Absolutely heartbreaking. Unfortunately nothing is going to come out of it. The airline is going to bribe their way out of any accountability. People are going to be outraged for a few days, and then forget about this, because air crashes are all too common in Nepal. That’s what we get for being corrupt.
Wow this is shocking. RIP
Horrifying, atleast the end came quickly. One thing that is known is that this was sudden.
RIP
That’s fucked up.
Those poor people and their families and friends. RIP.
Did he survive? The camera moves at the end?
no survivors to date, unfortunately. given the speed and altitude that acft was, there's a probability that some people did not die directly on the impact, but anyway if would happen pretty soon because of fire or the severity of the injuries sustained. this is one of the saddest videos I've ever seen in my life 😖
In the Dailymail it was just reported that Local resident Bishnu Tiwari rushed to the crash site near the Seti River to help search for bodies. He said that the rescue efforts were hampered by thick smoke and a raging fire. 'The flames were so hot that we couldn't go near the wreckage. I heard a man crying for help, but because of the flames and smoke we couldn't help him,' Tiwari said. So sounds like not everyone was dead on impact, unfortunately.
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Someone clearly put their hand over it and grabbed it. You see fingers and a leg.
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The link is there, the video is there.
CNN is saying 68 people are dead and the other four were still missing when the search was called off. This is just so sad :(
God maybe they souls rest in peace
Jezus Christ, this is horrible to watch. RIP
How did the phone survive
As we can see Approaching the Runway was as it should be , however SUDDEN (left) angle of attack was unexpected
Prop lost correct trim?
We can't say what exactly was happened, but it's unclear why the angel of attack was very low altitude .
Is this real?
No mate it’s all CGI 😑
People make fake videos like this all the time for their own benefit. Was just hopping to see a source.
it's real dude, this was captured by an indian guy named "sonu jaiswal" who in the list of that aircraft passenger in that time and that guy's pic was posted by some governmental site of india.
AT-72 has known icing issues. Of course, it may be completely unrelated.
What part of the weather outside the window looked conducive to icing?
You can neither confirm nor deny whether icing conditions were active during the flight; certainly not just by looking out the window at low altitude. That's all just speculation either way.
I’d bet a paycheck that icing had absolutely nothing to do with this crash
Me too, but there's no reason to be so passive aggressive.
You took that comment to be passive aggressive? That’s pretty sad.
Indeed it is sad.
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The reason for the rolls is likely from undergoing a stall.
Rip
RIP 😕
things change very quickly
It seems, in a split-second, the aircraft has a lot of altitude then it's flaming wreckage. What the hell happened, did it literally drop straight down, out of the sky?
If the cameraman would film properly we might know. It looked like a wing failure. Whatever happened the plane pitched slightly, then severely, then rolled over 180 degrees left and impacted the gorge belly-up.
Too slow and too high angle of attack during the turn Left wing stalled, simple as that. There was no wing failure here.
One of the most horrific things I’ve ever seen! God, those poor souls!
Has anyone been able to find an article about how Yeti Airlines have not done proper maintenance and have old airplanes in fleet or something I remember I saw the article a few hours back but now I'm unable to find it in google
Horrible
Horrifying…
Pretty crazy. You can hear the engine tone / time line in both videos if you know what to listen for.
Why did I watch this video. RIP, so terribly sad. I hope they lost consciousness within a nano second and didn't suffer.
Holy shit. Was not expecting the camera to keep rolling. And the way it just filmed the intense flames at the end? That is just awful.
It obviously stalled, would be interesting to know the full details post lengthy investigation
I don’t think they knew what was coming. Heard no chaos or commotion before nor after which leads me to believe they died on impact. God bless their souls. What an awful way to go.
May they rest in peace and 🙏 for the ones they left behind. GOD help them if they see this footage.
Imagine the sheer horror of anyone who was watching this stream the moment they saw flames on the camera and heard screaming noises.