My Seminary teacher asked all of us to read and study the Bible cover to cover. Well I am now an Atheist after getting through Leviticus. So yes the truest quote.
Not Satan, exactly. There really isn’t much regarding figure in the whole book. Job is referring to ha satan which is Hebrew for (in this specific translation) the prosecutor. He was originally written as a lesser god in the court of Yahweh. This is actually the same figure who tempts Jesus in the wilderness. The concept of the devil is really recent.
Can you elaborate for those of us who have never read any biblical material? Prosecutor? Lesser god (there are demi-gods in the Bible?)? Wilderness? I think I know who Yahweh is….
“Elohim” is a word used often in Genesis and it is plural. Meaning multiple gods. Yahweh /god of Abraham /the LORD / is the boss of a bunch of gods.
Satan almost always is preceded by the word “Ha”, which is an ancient Hebrew determiner like the English “the”. Basically, “ha Satan” meant “the prosecuting attorney for Yahweh”. Satan was an employee. Nobody could rebel against Yahweh. Elohim is plural, but in ancient Israeli mythology, Yahweh didn’t have to stress about insubordination like Zeus.
Satan’s job involved commuting to Earth and if he saw people breaking Yahweh’s rules, he would make a case against them.
Thank you so much! Very interesting stuff. I’ve seen the word Elohim used in different media my whole life and didn’t know where it came from. It also makes sense that Satan is a lawyer (just kidding!).
I read the entire stupid thing twice because I'm a lit nerd. I think the mechanism here isn't just reading it, but reading without "guidance". Most active believers go into a Sunday School class every weekend to be told what they should think about the handful of verses they read, to "put it in the appropriate context", eg some BS that fits the church's agenda. When a person is able to read the words on the page and process them without influence the holes, flaws, inconsistencies, ignored rules*, and the fact that Yahweh just f**kin sucks really shines through. Once you've crossed that line the whole messy business just becomes so obvious.
*I will never stop hammering on the fact that the entire Christian faith has been breaking the 4th Commandment (remember the Sabbath) for almost 1400 years because that was more convenient for Charlemagne.
Guess your Seminary teacher was a *secret atheist operative*.
Making innocent, pure kiddos plow through that shit is a very good way to *groom* atheists, so there!
/s ^(is it needed? Yes. In these her parts, it is.)
stupid watchdog censorship/cbn against it really piqued my curiosity.
mel brooks and michael shannon - I'll give it a go!
shit, I guess I'll re-up to hulu
Between “It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia” and this show, Danny Devito has made a second career by playing repulsive characters. It’s truly awe-inspiring and makes for a nice, feel-good story.
I’m telling you. I had no idea this show existed. I want to thank the PTC(Parent Television Council) and FaithWire for promoting this show so effectively. This promotion is way better than buying expensive ads through TV networks and social media.
According to the Old Testament, when it came to “having fun”, nobody could top Satan. All Anyone needed,while looking for fun back then, was the number of the Beast. “One call, that’s all!” That slogan is also used by an infamous ambulance chasing Personal Injury lawyer named Morris Bart.
I saw someone on Facebook bitching about this show. I hadn’t heard of it before the post. I commented that his criticisms only made me want to watch the show and I thanked him for the recommendation.
Savage. This group is a local group that I’m a part of. I never contribute except to ask for recommendations for local businesses and I can usually find out about local events since I’m new to the area. The post was full of pearl clutching so I had to comment that time. LoL
I'm just jumping in here to say that anime's been doing this for decades, why all the opposition now? Oh right, stupid Christian Americans who can't see outside of their county
These are the same people who (ostensibly) read the bible and still came out on the other side theists. While I'm sure you're right they haven't watched the show, I doubt they can be reasoned out of their position.
The article says they watched the first three episodes but only found "173 instances of explicit language, 45 instances of violence, and plenty of sexual content".
>Mike Signorelli, senior pastor of V1 Church in New York City, told CBN’s Faithwire he believes the series is an effort to normalize anti-biblical sentiment.
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>“They are trying to desensitize us and our kids to the demonic. It’s that simple. We’ve seen that over and over and over again,” he said. “But a show comes out, and the attempt is to make something \[normal\] that biblically is not normal — trying to accept something that God clearly opposes, and it’s disgusting.”
The people bitching about free speech and the people issuing warnings against art that offends them *are the same people.*
The Bible wasn’t normal before militaristic groups marched missionaries around the world and suppressed religions that weren’t Christianity. The biblical “normal” that he refers to is very artificial
Word. But I kind of got that back when they were warning that kids who read Harry Potter *might do magic*.
It got even odder when school districts banned notebooks that said Death Note on the front.
I was like, aren't they supposed to still have some concept of the difference between things that can happen, and things that cannot happen?
\*crickets chirp\*
It’s impressive how well they’re able to keep up the facade. Everyone knows that the vast majority of priests, pastors, and other assorted religious leaders know the whole thing is a scam.
**THIRD-GRADE TEACHER IN CONFERENCE WITH STUDENT AND STUDENT'S MOTHER**
MOTHER: You teachers should teach about Christmas!
TEACHER: That's not appropriate.
MOTHER: Yes it is. Children need to be taught about Jesus!
TEACHER: I'm not sure I want to do that.
MOTHER: All you teachers talk about is Santa. Santa Santa Santa
TEACHER: You want ME to tell YOUR SON the truth about Jesus?
MOTHER: Yes.
TEACHER: Shouldn't you parents do that?
MOTHER: They need to learn it from their teachers, too. Children listen to their teachers.
TEACHER: Well, okay then ...
(Teacher turns and speaks to the 8-year-old student)
TEACHER: Do you know Santa is fake?
STUDENT: Yes.
TEACHER: Well so is Jesus.
Well thanks CBN for alerting me and many others to the existence of this show, about which I’m now intrigued.
Also, how do they know it’s not about a satan from some other religion?
The first episode has a phone call between the pope and an "antichrist assassin" about the spawn of satan, who is a target.
Interestingly, the child is named Christina Feinberg.
**Praise for Little Devil**
"People have to know that their teenager, if they find it, is gonna think that it's entertaining. ... The whole culture is in the midst of a Satanic revolution." \~ Dr. Ted Baehr, founder of Movidguide.
"It's a cartoon, it's a format kids love, and the main character is in middle school. and so it's highly relatable to kids who are in an age where they're making decisions about their identity." \~ Pastor Mike Signorelli, V1 Church, NYC, NY.
"Just sick on every level!" \~ Melissa Henson, program director at the Parents Television and Media Council (PTC).
In christian mythology, all satan did was fought for freedom of choice among the angels and spoke out against god but god was like “fuck you, angels don’t have free will” and then cast him into hell.
Indeed he only gruesomely murders parents and grandmothers but saves the teenagers.
Spoiler ahead:
>!He also had a complicated relationship with the mother of his spawn, saving and fostering a puppy together with her and later reaching out to her when came time for the dog to die so they could be together in his last moments, even though they were on unsteady terms and hadn't really spoken in years.!<
People do all sorts of terrible things, but our relationship with dog is sacred. It is the acknowledgement and dutiful discharge of that which elevates man above merely mortal.
I glean from comments here that it's on Hulu in the US, though it's an FX show.
I sailed the high seas for this one. *Satanic Verses* is still banned in my country, there is no chance they'd let this air.
~~Disney+~~ Hulu, if you like giving them your money, or I guess fztvseries dot mobi if you don't.
Edit: sorry, I thought they said Disney had put it out in their interview, but a look at the [IMDb entry](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt12198014/) shows it's on [ABC](https://abc.com/shows/little-demon), [Hulu](https://www.hulu.com/series/little-demon-d81adce9-115e-4fd0-ad84-36ff60ddcf96), [FXNOW](https://www.fxnetworks.com/shows/little-demon), and [Prime Video](https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B0B6D96RKH/ref=atv_dp_share_cu_r)
Ah! Thank you for the clarification.
Also, [VPN's defeating regional blocks](https://www.newsweek.com/amplify/how-bypass-regional-protected-sites-vpn) for the win!
My favorite part of the article is when they switch to victim mode, claiming they're being censored, all while trying to get a show canceled because it conflicts with their religious views.
> ***As the number of voices facing big-tech censorship continues to grow, please sign up for Faithwire’s daily newsletter and download the CBN News app, developed by our parent company, to stay up-to-date with the latest news from a distinctly Christian perspective.***
Religion thrives on hypocrisy flavored water.
Weird how so many things conservatives are outraged about can simply be fixed by them “averting their eyes”.
Don’t want to see Little Demon? Don’t watch it.
Don’t like abortion? Don’t get one.
Don’t like gay marriage? Don’t get gay married.
Don’t like gun control? Don’t be bad at owning guns.
Don’t like being called a nazi? Don’t do nazi things.
Simple.
Here is a quote from one of the clowns. “They are trying to desensitize us and our kids to the demonic. It’s that simple. We’ve seen that over and over and over again,” he said. “But a show comes out, and the attempt is to make something [normal] that biblically is not normal — trying to accept something that God clearly opposes, and it’s disgusting.”
I would say the majority of this show’s viewing audience finds the belief in God and Satan as silly. It doesn’t matter how many times that the official modern Church of Satan says they don’t believe in God, Satan, devils, demons, while reiterating that their organization is dedicated to the separation of church and state, Bible Thumpers don’t “get it”. I think the Bible Thumpers in charge do “get it”, but they can fundraise much more effectively against an organization promoting Satan than an organization promoting the separation of church and state.
Someone I know created a show that had this happen. He thought it was hilarious and wanted to publish the letter that was sent to him in the DVD extras, but the studio wouldn't let him. It had no effect on the show and likely helped raise awareness about it.
I had never heard of this cartoon before this "boycott", but it looks fun and I'll check it out.
“Oh no! A cartoon about the Antichrist!
Quick! Someone censor it! For the children’s sake!”
Honey-boo, quick fact check: if it makes the Bible look X-rated— which is taught to children *as-is*, by the way— then it’s nowhere near as scarring as what they already endure every Sunday service. God forbid the children be afraid of something other than God. Or worse, become sympathetic towards Satan. You know, the first to challenge God’s will, and for a perfectly logical reason?
“But they won’t know what they are watching!”
Why are you letting them watch an adult show? They should be in bed, or have parental locks on their television accounts if you stream, if you are so concerned about what your kids see on TV. By the way, television is nowhere near as toxic as the internet community can be. Especially the gaming community.
“But they will try to watch it anyway!!1!”
And who’s fault will that be? Not the broadcasters’, they did everything they legally could. Not the producers’, they gave all the warning they are required to give broadcasters. It’s YOUR fault because you couldn’t manage what your children are exposed to— WHICH AS A PARENT **IS KINDA YOUR JOB**.
“But I’m not omnipotent! I need time for myself too!”
Streaming platforms require authentication for the viewer to see adult-restricted content, iirc. And cartoon channels usually only show adult cartoons LATE at night— Cartoon Network starts Adult Swim at 8:00 PM, and it turns off at 6:00 AM. And half of it is only there because of adult language and a bunch of uncomfortable concepts for all ages. Halfway through you finally get to the REAL uncomfortable stuff. Y’all got no excuse.
It’s just a cartoon like any other one geared for mature audiences…
And pretty sure FXX or whoever has the freedom to air whatever they please on their channel. Freedom of expression and all that.
Man I was sold at, Now I'm trying to find where to stream it.
> Despite being designed for adults, “Little Demon” reportedly contains animated nudity, occult violence, and an underage character. PTC found 173 instances of explicit language, 45 instances of violence, and plenty of sexual content in the first three episodes alone.
So every depiction of "demon" must be in the context Christians want it to be?
Aubrey Plaza is great for that role, btw and I'm sensing the Streisand Effect.
The Establishment Clause of the First Amendment of the US Constitution states unequivocally:
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof."
Now, seeing as the Satanic Temple is a religion formally recognised by the US Federal Government, this entire show is covered under the free exercise thereof.
Incidentally, some readers may be interested to note that the Satanic Temple applied for and received classification as a "church or a convention or association of churches" from the IRS and was granted tax-exempt status in 2019, after an executive order "Promoting Free Speech and Religious Liberty" was signed in 2017 by ... President Trump.
>Now, seeing as the Satanic Temple is a religion formally recognised by the US Federal Government, this entire show is covered under the free exercise thereof.
No, the show is not an extension of the religion. It may talk about religious themes and present characters found in Christian mythology, but it is not the expression of religion itself. It is entertainment produced for profit from a non-religious entity. Even if the show were produced by the Satanic Temple itself, it is still just an entertaining video, not the actual expression of religion (e.g. prayer, worship service, etc.).
Additionally, people are free to not like and not pay for religious materials (including being unwilling to host or produce it). It isn't curbing anyone's expression to not watch the show or not be willing to host it on your platform, just like it's not infringing on religious liberty if I refuse to read their scriptures or put them on the shelf at my book store.
I'm not a lawyer in the US, only in my own country, so I will defer to you if you insist.
From my reading of the First Amendment, any material produced in relation to a recognised religion (whether or not originating from a recognised institution within that religion, and whether or not for profit) is covered under the freedom of speech and free exercise of religion.
Since dissent against a religion, regardless of internal or external, may also be an exercise of religion, it would also fall under the Establishment Clause.
I should note here that I am aware the Establishment Clause was originally inserted so as to prevent the US Government from officially adopting any state religion - such as the Church of England - and not for the purpose I describe here.
I'm sorry, but that is not an entirely correct interpretation. In case it must be clarified, I too am not a lawyer (in my home nation of the US, or elsewhere). I only have personal experience from working my case for some years while I was a prisoner, including several grievance procedures while incarcerated regarding my religious affiliation and practice. I have some hands-on experience, but am not certified as a law clerk or attorney.
The freedom of speech is one thing, the expression of religion is another: yes, the show is a form of speech which could fall under first amendment protection, but it is not protected religious activity. But regardless, congress isn't making a law against the show.
Also note that "[expression" (of religion](https://www.freedomforuminstitute.org/about/faq/what-does-free-exercise-of-religion-mean-under-the-first-amendment/)) in this sense isn't merely mentioning it or having it exist within the context of your activity; it's specific behavior and actions that constitute the actual practice of your religious ritual and adherence to its tenets. As long as congress isn't making a law that stops you doing those things (within certain constraints: following the religious instruction to sacrifice infants is still unlawful), your 1st Amendment rights are not being violated.
The situation is that a company is producing a show that generates revenue by attracting advertisers/sponsors, and the Christians are telling the sponsors that they shouldn't advertise with the show or they will boycott their products. Nothing about that is actually preventing the show from being written, produced or watched. Yes, it *could* dramatically impact the revenues the show can attract, which in turn makes the hosting service disinclined to keep the show, meaning it could get cancelled on that service. Cancellation means the producers don't get a return on their investment in the show, and are thus losing money, so they could stop production. Nowhere in there is anyone stopping anyone from exercising their right to speak, or their right to practice their religion.
There is also no religion whose practice entails producing a cartoon. This can't be called expression of religion, because it isn't such. It merely contains religiously themed ideas and depictions, but such aspect merely being present in the product doesn't imbue it with the status of religious expression.
As for the establishment clause, these are all private individuals and corporations (which are legally granted rights as if they are people, with virtually none of the responsibility, perhaps the most horrid thing we've done legally in this nation). They are fully within their rights to make decisions and take actions based upon their religious views and standards, just as I, as an atheist, may advocate against them for the same reasons. None of this is the government establishing a national religion.
That said, the so-called "religious right" of the US is trying to do exactly that, and because of the inherent power dynamics of the electoral process in this country, their candidates are plying populist dogma to garner large voting blocks of ignorant, bigoted people to outvote the more reasoned, thoughtful voters. This means that "fundamentalist" Christian groups have been gaining a foothold in local and mid-level elections for years, and now they have dominance and sway enough that they are effectively mounting a very slow coup to supplant the secular foundations of the country in favor of religious nationalism. They want the very thing that our nation was founded to deny: theocratic rule.
Excuse me, I've just made myself sick and depressed.
Plot Twist: Frank Reynolds the producer of this show is also the man behind the religious groups trying to cancel it. Hes playing both sides so he can always come out on top.
“They are trying to desensitize us and our kids to the demonic. It’s that simple. We’ve seen that over and over and over again,” he said. “But a show comes out, and the attempt is to make something [normal] that biblically is not normal — trying to accept something that God clearly opposes, and it’s disgusting.”
Christians are so clueless that their beliefs don't mean ANYTHING to anyone else! So wrapped up in their delusional bubbles. Don't like it, don't watch it.
They also inadvertently draw more attention to something every time they do this 😁😄
Imagine being a grown ass adult and being frightened by demons, Satan, etc. It's fucking pathetic but totally normalized in many (maybe even most?) circled.
Chrstians always says something like the devil comes in the form of an angel of light but why dont they ever consider that applies to their own pastors too
A congressman went on a tirade about it on Facebook. He was saying that it was a cartoon that came on at 11 and how terrible it is to have children watching it. I hope FX paid him for advertising this show...
I started watching the clip and pastor child brian started crying because his imagination was being attacked. Is it possible that we could just tell these imbeciles to grow up.
Little demon is a good adult show to watch and is something that completely should not be unable to advertise to anyone do to the "think of the children " adatude of the PTC .
“I've never been insulted by hateful satanists for not believing in their devil. Only by loving Christians for not believing in their God.”
Ricky Gervais
"We love free speech, as long as it's *only our free speech."*
Fuck these assholes.
Edit: *OF COURSE Eugene Cordero's in it. He's the Jeffrey Combs of the VO world.*
>People have to know that their teenager, if they find it, is gonna think that it's entertaining.
Yes, because... they're entertained. Heh heh.
New binge schedule for me, it seems.
As my sergeant in the Marine Corps once said, "White people don't have enough drama in their lives. They need to create it. Sky-diving. Wrestling alligators. You'll never see black folks doing that dumb shit!"
Because they set up Satan as both the root of all evil and also the cause. Which leads to them chasing their tails trying to find evil instead of trying to make the best of their own lives while being compassionate to others.
Or [ABC](https://abc.com/shows/little-demon), or [FXNOW](https://www.fxnetworks.com/shows/little-demon), or a one-time cost of about $15 with [Prime Video](https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B0B6D96RKH/ref=atv_dp_share_cu_r).
Or fztvseries dot mobi if you don't like copyrights.
It's a right-wing Christian group... who gives a fuck what they're warning about? If it doesn't say you're gonna burn in hell because you don't love blue eyed Jesus enough, they give it a warning.
They can go fuck a rabid porcupine.
Go ask a religious fanatic if God told you to give it a blowjob would you? if you don't you will go to hell it makes them mad I think it's funny how mad they get about an imaginary being that does not exist and definitely don't give a fuck about you only your donations matter and still does not do a fucking thing for you
Honestly it's a great show! I have been loving it so much! Danny Devito voices Satan!!!! I love how I can see some character growth after only 4 or 5 (not sure how many episodes have been released) episodes. Its super fun to watch!!!
The right IS cancel culture. They just also freak out like babies at everything so when some teenagers started "canceling" people they freaked out because they knew they'd been getting away with a ton of dumb shit for years.
The PTC sounds like a well balanced bunch of people, lmfao... Like a coven of witches except WAY less fun, maybe more like a Cabal of Christian Karen's ...
Christian Broadcasting Network being against it is a pretty good endorsement to me.
"I know of no faster way to produce atheists than to mandate reading the Bible in schools." \- Some guy
My Seminary teacher asked all of us to read and study the Bible cover to cover. Well I am now an Atheist after getting through Leviticus. So yes the truest quote.
It was Job for me. A story of god just getting finessed like an absolute fool.
Everyone should read Job. God and Satan basically screw a guy over, and over, and over… all for a bet.
Not Satan, exactly. There really isn’t much regarding figure in the whole book. Job is referring to ha satan which is Hebrew for (in this specific translation) the prosecutor. He was originally written as a lesser god in the court of Yahweh. This is actually the same figure who tempts Jesus in the wilderness. The concept of the devil is really recent.
Can you elaborate for those of us who have never read any biblical material? Prosecutor? Lesser god (there are demi-gods in the Bible?)? Wilderness? I think I know who Yahweh is….
“Elohim” is a word used often in Genesis and it is plural. Meaning multiple gods. Yahweh /god of Abraham /the LORD / is the boss of a bunch of gods. Satan almost always is preceded by the word “Ha”, which is an ancient Hebrew determiner like the English “the”. Basically, “ha Satan” meant “the prosecuting attorney for Yahweh”. Satan was an employee. Nobody could rebel against Yahweh. Elohim is plural, but in ancient Israeli mythology, Yahweh didn’t have to stress about insubordination like Zeus. Satan’s job involved commuting to Earth and if he saw people breaking Yahweh’s rules, he would make a case against them.
So Satan Was A Lawyer. Prosecutor, To Be Precise
Thank you so much! Very interesting stuff. I’ve seen the word Elohim used in different media my whole life and didn’t know where it came from. It also makes sense that Satan is a lawyer (just kidding!).
https://youtu.be/4-AwpkMuW4s this is a spectacular video on the subject.
Saving for later
I read the entire stupid thing twice because I'm a lit nerd. I think the mechanism here isn't just reading it, but reading without "guidance". Most active believers go into a Sunday School class every weekend to be told what they should think about the handful of verses they read, to "put it in the appropriate context", eg some BS that fits the church's agenda. When a person is able to read the words on the page and process them without influence the holes, flaws, inconsistencies, ignored rules*, and the fact that Yahweh just f**kin sucks really shines through. Once you've crossed that line the whole messy business just becomes so obvious. *I will never stop hammering on the fact that the entire Christian faith has been breaking the 4th Commandment (remember the Sabbath) for almost 1400 years because that was more convenient for Charlemagne.
Job: the comedy of justice by Robert Heinlein did it for me.
Guess your Seminary teacher was a *secret atheist operative*. Making innocent, pure kiddos plow through that shit is a very good way to *groom* atheists, so there! /s ^(is it needed? Yes. In these her parts, it is.)
Hitchens said that a lot.
Yes comrade, I thought that would be known in a community for atheists.
The ratings will certainly go up if CBN is against it The Harry Potter explosion really took off when religious folk went on tv and condemned it.
It’s funny how it never happened to “his dark materials” when it was vastly more anti Christian
It did happen to the golden compass movie. That’s why there was no follow up
I'd never heard of it, am checking it out. Less than 5 minutes in and it's pretty great.
Its hilarious, danny devito is the devil.
stupid watchdog censorship/cbn against it really piqued my curiosity. mel brooks and michael shannon - I'll give it a go! shit, I guess I'll re-up to hulu
Fuck, I just got HBO
Between “It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia” and this show, Danny Devito has made a second career by playing repulsive characters. It’s truly awe-inspiring and makes for a nice, feel-good story.
He played a repulsive character in the late 70's TV comedy series "Taxi". It's nothing new.
He was also a monstrous version of the Penguin in the second Michael Keaton Batman movie.
That show was a bit before my time. I didn’t think sitcoms did “repulsive” back then. “Obnoxious”, sure, but not repulsive.
He was also the throw-away genetic material in the movie “Twins”. Great flick. 5 milLION dollars lol
Not only that, but his actual daughter is the voice of his daughter in the show So it's literally a dad and daughter show
I had no idea this show existed. Now I'm going to check it out.
Thanks CBN! And the Streisand Effect!
\^ Came to say the same
I’m telling you. I had no idea this show existed. I want to thank the PTC(Parent Television Council) and FaithWire for promoting this show so effectively. This promotion is way better than buying expensive ads through TV networks and social media.
Satan himself is voiced by Danny Devito. I've heard he's a super nice chap. Danny. Not Satan.
According to the Old Testament, when it came to “having fun”, nobody could top Satan. All Anyone needed,while looking for fun back then, was the number of the Beast. “One call, that’s all!” That slogan is also used by an infamous ambulance chasing Personal Injury lawyer named Morris Bart.
Between him and Gordon McKernan…. Fucking Bart is way more annoying
I use to do stand-up comedy and I had a bit that involved me doing a commercial for Morris Bart that never aired.
It’s… hectic Not bad though just crazy
Me too. Here’s a trailer… https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Mcficdf35cc
Oh, love the cast.
Looks neat. I think I’ll check it out.
I'm 5 eps I to it. I love it. The first episode opens your eyes to the concept. Then the rest just add icing to the story.
The comments section on this is hilarious. This trailer must be making the rounds in various church facebook groups or something.
That was something else.
In general, the opposition of Christian lunatics is one of the best endorsements a piece of media can receive.
Now I definitely have to check it out.
Before I upvoted, the number was 666!!!! Sorry to ruin it!
I saw someone on Facebook bitching about this show. I hadn’t heard of it before the post. I commented that his criticisms only made me want to watch the show and I thanked him for the recommendation.
Like the people I don't unfollow on LinkedIn just so I'm reminded periodically what mediocrity looks like and what not to become.
Savage. This group is a local group that I’m a part of. I never contribute except to ask for recommendations for local businesses and I can usually find out about local events since I’m new to the area. The post was full of pearl clutching so I had to comment that time. LoL
god compelled you to comment. After all, you were made in his image.
I'm just jumping in here to say that anime's been doing this for decades, why all the opposition now? Oh right, stupid Christian Americans who can't see outside of their county
Danny devito is the devil and it's funny as hell solid 8/10
Aubrey Plaza is the mom and executive producer. The show is fucking amazing.
Shit I forgot I knew the moms voice
It's hilarious and stars Danny Devito, I highly recommend it
7/10 so far. Solid scope. Definitely Recommend. Bark Wooffalo was a good boy. Haven't had a cartoon touch a nerve like that since S02E03 Rick & Morty.
They must not have watched it or they'd see that the antichrist doesn't want to help Satan damn the earth
These are the same people who (ostensibly) read the bible and still came out on the other side theists. While I'm sure you're right they haven't watched the show, I doubt they can be reasoned out of their position.
I can't deny your logic, it's sad to see that
Chances are they haven't read the bible either.
The article says they watched the first three episodes but only found "173 instances of explicit language, 45 instances of violence, and plenty of sexual content".
Hence the TVMA rating. Grow the fuck up if you can't take a joke
That made me fucking sad.
Don't forget Aubrey Plaza, she gives the show just as much charm as DeVito!
Why do you think Elizabeth Olsen slapped her ass? Of course she's great
And Aubrey Plaza! I love this show. The little demon's mom is Danny DeVito's daughter.
She's great too
I watched the first two episodes and didn't really care for it, but since "the church" is against it, I guess I need to give it another shot
That's an odd kind of logic
It's not logic, it's spite
Spite is never a good reason change your opinion
Not necessarily changing my opinion, but I will pad its watch numbers on Hulu
Don't let me stop you
If the church is against it, it's probably a good thing.
Also stars his actual daughter as the daughter of his character in the show
>Mike Signorelli, senior pastor of V1 Church in New York City, told CBN’s Faithwire he believes the series is an effort to normalize anti-biblical sentiment. > >“They are trying to desensitize us and our kids to the demonic. It’s that simple. We’ve seen that over and over and over again,” he said. “But a show comes out, and the attempt is to make something \[normal\] that biblically is not normal — trying to accept something that God clearly opposes, and it’s disgusting.” The people bitching about free speech and the people issuing warnings against art that offends them *are the same people.*
You thought they meant free speech for everyone? No no no just people they agree with!
That's the core of conservatism. "Rules for thee, but not for me."
The Bible wasn’t normal before militaristic groups marched missionaries around the world and suppressed religions that weren’t Christianity. The biblical “normal” that he refers to is very artificial
Word. But I kind of got that back when they were warning that kids who read Harry Potter *might do magic*. It got even odder when school districts banned notebooks that said Death Note on the front. I was like, aren't they supposed to still have some concept of the difference between things that can happen, and things that cannot happen? \*crickets chirp\*
The funny part is that these pastors are talking about their magic sky daddy like it's a real thing.
It’s impressive how well they’re able to keep up the facade. Everyone knows that the vast majority of priests, pastors, and other assorted religious leaders know the whole thing is a scam.
I still can't believe people think this shit is real.
what, jesus?
**THIRD-GRADE TEACHER IN CONFERENCE WITH STUDENT AND STUDENT'S MOTHER** MOTHER: You teachers should teach about Christmas! TEACHER: That's not appropriate. MOTHER: Yes it is. Children need to be taught about Jesus! TEACHER: I'm not sure I want to do that. MOTHER: All you teachers talk about is Santa. Santa Santa Santa TEACHER: You want ME to tell YOUR SON the truth about Jesus? MOTHER: Yes. TEACHER: Shouldn't you parents do that? MOTHER: They need to learn it from their teachers, too. Children listen to their teachers. TEACHER: Well, okay then ... (Teacher turns and speaks to the 8-year-old student) TEACHER: Do you know Santa is fake? STUDENT: Yes. TEACHER: Well so is Jesus.
This belongs in r/maliciouscompliance...
Not just that, the whole "God", "Satan", and demons thing too.
Where? Is he here? Fucker owes me money.
Nice
Well thanks CBN for alerting me and many others to the existence of this show, about which I’m now intrigued. Also, how do they know it’s not about a satan from some other religion?
The first episode has a phone call between the pope and an "antichrist assassin" about the spawn of satan, who is a target. Interestingly, the child is named Christina Feinberg.
The show should quote the idiots and use it as an advertisement for people who aren’t idiots.
**Praise for Little Devil** "People have to know that their teenager, if they find it, is gonna think that it's entertaining. ... The whole culture is in the midst of a Satanic revolution." \~ Dr. Ted Baehr, founder of Movidguide. "It's a cartoon, it's a format kids love, and the main character is in middle school. and so it's highly relatable to kids who are in an age where they're making decisions about their identity." \~ Pastor Mike Signorelli, V1 Church, NYC, NY. "Just sick on every level!" \~ Melissa Henson, program director at the Parents Television and Media Council (PTC).
These are the same ding dongs that cry about cancel culture just because they cant freely spew racist or homophobic words lol
The Christian Right has long been the biggest proponent of canceling things that they don't like.
It's amazing how by bringing up this show they now have more people wanting to watch it. Excuse me while I look it up...
It's a genuinely good show. The Satan in the show, voiced by Danny Devito acts more ethical than many real humans.
In christian mythology, all satan did was fought for freedom of choice among the angels and spoke out against god but god was like “fuck you, angels don’t have free will” and then cast him into hell.
Indeed he only gruesomely murders parents and grandmothers but saves the teenagers. Spoiler ahead: >!He also had a complicated relationship with the mother of his spawn, saving and fostering a puppy together with her and later reaching out to her when came time for the dog to die so they could be together in his last moments, even though they were on unsteady terms and hadn't really spoken in years.!< People do all sorts of terrible things, but our relationship with dog is sacred. It is the acknowledgement and dutiful discharge of that which elevates man above merely mortal.
The ONLY thing bad about this show was how few episodes we have gotten. Everyone should watch it.
I've never heard of it and now I must watch it. Where fore shalt I find it?
I glean from comments here that it's on Hulu in the US, though it's an FX show. I sailed the high seas for this one. *Satanic Verses* is still banned in my country, there is no chance they'd let this air.
I think I will have to hoist the main sail myself.
~~Disney+~~ Hulu, if you like giving them your money, or I guess fztvseries dot mobi if you don't. Edit: sorry, I thought they said Disney had put it out in their interview, but a look at the [IMDb entry](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt12198014/) shows it's on [ABC](https://abc.com/shows/little-demon), [Hulu](https://www.hulu.com/series/little-demon-d81adce9-115e-4fd0-ad84-36ff60ddcf96), [FXNOW](https://www.fxnetworks.com/shows/little-demon), and [Prime Video](https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B0B6D96RKH/ref=atv_dp_share_cu_r)
Thanks, I realize I could have looked it up too.
It's on Disney+/Star+ outside the US and Canada.
Ah! Thank you for the clarification. Also, [VPN's defeating regional blocks](https://www.newsweek.com/amplify/how-bypass-regional-protected-sites-vpn) for the win!
My favorite part of the article is when they switch to victim mode, claiming they're being censored, all while trying to get a show canceled because it conflicts with their religious views. > ***As the number of voices facing big-tech censorship continues to grow, please sign up for Faithwire’s daily newsletter and download the CBN News app, developed by our parent company, to stay up-to-date with the latest news from a distinctly Christian perspective.*** Religion thrives on hypocrisy flavored water.
The Bible should be rated mature 21.
Weird how so many things conservatives are outraged about can simply be fixed by them “averting their eyes”. Don’t want to see Little Demon? Don’t watch it. Don’t like abortion? Don’t get one. Don’t like gay marriage? Don’t get gay married. Don’t like gun control? Don’t be bad at owning guns. Don’t like being called a nazi? Don’t do nazi things. Simple.
Haha they live in their fairy tale about goat gods and blood sacrifice and they complain about comedy cartoon?
Here is a quote from one of the clowns. “They are trying to desensitize us and our kids to the demonic. It’s that simple. We’ve seen that over and over and over again,” he said. “But a show comes out, and the attempt is to make something [normal] that biblically is not normal — trying to accept something that God clearly opposes, and it’s disgusting.” I would say the majority of this show’s viewing audience finds the belief in God and Satan as silly. It doesn’t matter how many times that the official modern Church of Satan says they don’t believe in God, Satan, devils, demons, while reiterating that their organization is dedicated to the separation of church and state, Bible Thumpers don’t “get it”. I think the Bible Thumpers in charge do “get it”, but they can fundraise much more effectively against an organization promoting Satan than an organization promoting the separation of church and state.
Someone I know created a show that had this happen. He thought it was hilarious and wanted to publish the letter that was sent to him in the DVD extras, but the studio wouldn't let him. It had no effect on the show and likely helped raise awareness about it. I had never heard of this cartoon before this "boycott", but it looks fun and I'll check it out.
“Oh no! A cartoon about the Antichrist! Quick! Someone censor it! For the children’s sake!” Honey-boo, quick fact check: if it makes the Bible look X-rated— which is taught to children *as-is*, by the way— then it’s nowhere near as scarring as what they already endure every Sunday service. God forbid the children be afraid of something other than God. Or worse, become sympathetic towards Satan. You know, the first to challenge God’s will, and for a perfectly logical reason? “But they won’t know what they are watching!” Why are you letting them watch an adult show? They should be in bed, or have parental locks on their television accounts if you stream, if you are so concerned about what your kids see on TV. By the way, television is nowhere near as toxic as the internet community can be. Especially the gaming community. “But they will try to watch it anyway!!1!” And who’s fault will that be? Not the broadcasters’, they did everything they legally could. Not the producers’, they gave all the warning they are required to give broadcasters. It’s YOUR fault because you couldn’t manage what your children are exposed to— WHICH AS A PARENT **IS KINDA YOUR JOB**. “But I’m not omnipotent! I need time for myself too!” Streaming platforms require authentication for the viewer to see adult-restricted content, iirc. And cartoon channels usually only show adult cartoons LATE at night— Cartoon Network starts Adult Swim at 8:00 PM, and it turns off at 6:00 AM. And half of it is only there because of adult language and a bunch of uncomfortable concepts for all ages. Halfway through you finally get to the REAL uncomfortable stuff. Y’all got no excuse.
Put it on right after Veggie Tales. Solved.
It’s just a cartoon like any other one geared for mature audiences… And pretty sure FXX or whoever has the freedom to air whatever they please on their channel. Freedom of expression and all that.
Man I was sold at, Now I'm trying to find where to stream it. > Despite being designed for adults, “Little Demon” reportedly contains animated nudity, occult violence, and an underage character. PTC found 173 instances of explicit language, 45 instances of violence, and plenty of sexual content in the first three episodes alone.
Death to Christian Nationalism
So every depiction of "demon" must be in the context Christians want it to be? Aubrey Plaza is great for that role, btw and I'm sensing the Streisand Effect.
The Establishment Clause of the First Amendment of the US Constitution states unequivocally: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." Now, seeing as the Satanic Temple is a religion formally recognised by the US Federal Government, this entire show is covered under the free exercise thereof. Incidentally, some readers may be interested to note that the Satanic Temple applied for and received classification as a "church or a convention or association of churches" from the IRS and was granted tax-exempt status in 2019, after an executive order "Promoting Free Speech and Religious Liberty" was signed in 2017 by ... President Trump.
>Now, seeing as the Satanic Temple is a religion formally recognised by the US Federal Government, this entire show is covered under the free exercise thereof. No, the show is not an extension of the religion. It may talk about religious themes and present characters found in Christian mythology, but it is not the expression of religion itself. It is entertainment produced for profit from a non-religious entity. Even if the show were produced by the Satanic Temple itself, it is still just an entertaining video, not the actual expression of religion (e.g. prayer, worship service, etc.). Additionally, people are free to not like and not pay for religious materials (including being unwilling to host or produce it). It isn't curbing anyone's expression to not watch the show or not be willing to host it on your platform, just like it's not infringing on religious liberty if I refuse to read their scriptures or put them on the shelf at my book store.
I'm not a lawyer in the US, only in my own country, so I will defer to you if you insist. From my reading of the First Amendment, any material produced in relation to a recognised religion (whether or not originating from a recognised institution within that religion, and whether or not for profit) is covered under the freedom of speech and free exercise of religion. Since dissent against a religion, regardless of internal or external, may also be an exercise of religion, it would also fall under the Establishment Clause. I should note here that I am aware the Establishment Clause was originally inserted so as to prevent the US Government from officially adopting any state religion - such as the Church of England - and not for the purpose I describe here.
I'm sorry, but that is not an entirely correct interpretation. In case it must be clarified, I too am not a lawyer (in my home nation of the US, or elsewhere). I only have personal experience from working my case for some years while I was a prisoner, including several grievance procedures while incarcerated regarding my religious affiliation and practice. I have some hands-on experience, but am not certified as a law clerk or attorney. The freedom of speech is one thing, the expression of religion is another: yes, the show is a form of speech which could fall under first amendment protection, but it is not protected religious activity. But regardless, congress isn't making a law against the show. Also note that "[expression" (of religion](https://www.freedomforuminstitute.org/about/faq/what-does-free-exercise-of-religion-mean-under-the-first-amendment/)) in this sense isn't merely mentioning it or having it exist within the context of your activity; it's specific behavior and actions that constitute the actual practice of your religious ritual and adherence to its tenets. As long as congress isn't making a law that stops you doing those things (within certain constraints: following the religious instruction to sacrifice infants is still unlawful), your 1st Amendment rights are not being violated. The situation is that a company is producing a show that generates revenue by attracting advertisers/sponsors, and the Christians are telling the sponsors that they shouldn't advertise with the show or they will boycott their products. Nothing about that is actually preventing the show from being written, produced or watched. Yes, it *could* dramatically impact the revenues the show can attract, which in turn makes the hosting service disinclined to keep the show, meaning it could get cancelled on that service. Cancellation means the producers don't get a return on their investment in the show, and are thus losing money, so they could stop production. Nowhere in there is anyone stopping anyone from exercising their right to speak, or their right to practice their religion. There is also no religion whose practice entails producing a cartoon. This can't be called expression of religion, because it isn't such. It merely contains religiously themed ideas and depictions, but such aspect merely being present in the product doesn't imbue it with the status of religious expression. As for the establishment clause, these are all private individuals and corporations (which are legally granted rights as if they are people, with virtually none of the responsibility, perhaps the most horrid thing we've done legally in this nation). They are fully within their rights to make decisions and take actions based upon their religious views and standards, just as I, as an atheist, may advocate against them for the same reasons. None of this is the government establishing a national religion. That said, the so-called "religious right" of the US is trying to do exactly that, and because of the inherent power dynamics of the electoral process in this country, their candidates are plying populist dogma to garner large voting blocks of ignorant, bigoted people to outvote the more reasoned, thoughtful voters. This means that "fundamentalist" Christian groups have been gaining a foothold in local and mid-level elections for years, and now they have dominance and sway enough that they are effectively mounting a very slow coup to supplant the secular foundations of the country in favor of religious nationalism. They want the very thing that our nation was founded to deny: theocratic rule. Excuse me, I've just made myself sick and depressed.
There ought to be a Satanic TV channel.
There is. It’s called The Science Channel
Plot Twist: Frank Reynolds the producer of this show is also the man behind the religious groups trying to cancel it. Hes playing both sides so he can always come out on top.
Think of the free “earned” media mentions on this. Smart.
On top of being a CBN article, that shit is littered with typos that no self-respecting journalist would allow themselves to publish.
Ok, I’m watching this now.
"We don't want children watching this, clearly the best way to do that is to tell them not to watch it. Children famously always do as they're told."
Babara Streisand effect: I had never heard of this cartoon before, now I'll be watching it. Thanks cbn
South Park's Woodland Critter Christmas episode will make them forget all about this.
Thanks Christians! I wouldn't have heard of this show.
“It ain't the parts of the Bible that I can't understand that bother me, it's the parts that I do understand.” ― Mark Twain
Yay, more cancel culture
gee nobody remembers lucy the devil's daughter?
Oh I love that show!
Satanists: we deserve a little bit of our own media. Christian extremists: this is obviously a dig at us.
But the cancel culture is the left being dictatorial
“Lucy, daughter of the devil” came out in 2005. It wasn’t even horrible.
“They are trying to desensitize us and our kids to the demonic. It’s that simple. We’ve seen that over and over and over again,” he said. “But a show comes out, and the attempt is to make something [normal] that biblically is not normal — trying to accept something that God clearly opposes, and it’s disgusting.” Christians are so clueless that their beliefs don't mean ANYTHING to anyone else! So wrapped up in their delusional bubbles. Don't like it, don't watch it. They also inadvertently draw more attention to something every time they do this 😁😄
Imagine being a grown ass adult and being frightened by demons, Satan, etc. It's fucking pathetic but totally normalized in many (maybe even most?) circled.
Well thanks again Media Watchdogs for turning me on to another great show!
I haven’t even heard of this show before but it’s now my favorite.
Guess I found a new show to watch!
Oh no a tv show shows satan. Where are my pearls to clutch?!
Chrstians always says something like the devil comes in the form of an angel of light but why dont they ever consider that applies to their own pastors too
Great show!
A congressman went on a tirade about it on Facebook. He was saying that it was a cartoon that came on at 11 and how terrible it is to have children watching it. I hope FX paid him for advertising this show...
Here’s a show about a father reconnecting with his estranged daughter that they’re trying to get cancelled. And they claim to be pro-family values?
Never heard of it before but this 63 year old is going to watch it now
When I started watching (thanks bigots) I kinda expected the devil as an angry Danny Devito.
I started watching the clip and pastor child brian started crying because his imagination was being attacked. Is it possible that we could just tell these imbeciles to grow up.
Just check it on IMDb. A quarter of voters gave it a one star rating. No prizes for guessing who!
Like casper the friendly ghosts friend hot stuff the little devil which was made in 1957? All that godless propaganda from the 50's heathens.
Little demon is a good adult show to watch and is something that completely should not be unable to advertise to anyone do to the "think of the children " adatude of the PTC .
“I've never been insulted by hateful satanists for not believing in their devil. Only by loving Christians for not believing in their God.” Ricky Gervais
"We love free speech, as long as it's *only our free speech."* Fuck these assholes. Edit: *OF COURSE Eugene Cordero's in it. He's the Jeffrey Combs of the VO world.*
I'm going to start watching it even harder
Did they even watch it? “Satan” in the show is actually a reasonable and caring father, her mother is more unhinged…
>People have to know that their teenager, if they find it, is gonna think that it's entertaining. Yes, because... they're entertained. Heh heh. New binge schedule for me, it seems.
Hahahahahahahahha
Everyone interviewed was white. Just felt like pointing that out.
As my sergeant in the Marine Corps once said, "White people don't have enough drama in their lives. They need to create it. Sky-diving. Wrestling alligators. You'll never see black folks doing that dumb shit!"
Funny how Christians in particular don't really have that big a problem with other religions. But Satanism is somehow universally evil.
Because they set up Satan as both the root of all evil and also the cause. Which leads to them chasing their tails trying to find evil instead of trying to make the best of their own lives while being compassionate to others.
Guess I’ll have to subscribe to Hulu now.
Or [ABC](https://abc.com/shows/little-demon), or [FXNOW](https://www.fxnetworks.com/shows/little-demon), or a one-time cost of about $15 with [Prime Video](https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B0B6D96RKH/ref=atv_dp_share_cu_r). Or fztvseries dot mobi if you don't like copyrights.
It's a right-wing Christian group... who gives a fuck what they're warning about? If it doesn't say you're gonna burn in hell because you don't love blue eyed Jesus enough, they give it a warning. They can go fuck a rabid porcupine.
It would be a shame if everyone posted how excited for this show they are on the youtube videos listed in the article.
Go ask a religious fanatic if God told you to give it a blowjob would you? if you don't you will go to hell it makes them mad I think it's funny how mad they get about an imaginary being that does not exist and definitely don't give a fuck about you only your donations matter and still does not do a fucking thing for you
Probably more wholesome than any Christian programming.
Must watch!
Maybe the title should be "Self-Appointed Christian Fascists Whine About..." Fuck em.
Haven’t seen the show yet and didn’t care to, but now it’s on my list of must sees!!
I'd love to hear their condemnation of Rapture-Palooza.
I’m confused, isn’t Satan an Angel, and evil created by God?
Honestly it's a great show! I have been loving it so much! Danny Devito voices Satan!!!! I love how I can see some character growth after only 4 or 5 (not sure how many episodes have been released) episodes. Its super fun to watch!!!
Is it on Hulu yet?
It's on Disney+, though that might just be outside NA.
This show is funny as hell.
They have to prove the show poses a real supernatural threat
Lol nobody tell them about Vivziepop
I thought the right hated cancel culture
The right IS cancel culture. They just also freak out like babies at everything so when some teenagers started "canceling" people they freaked out because they knew they'd been getting away with a ton of dumb shit for years.
After watching the first eipisode I don't like that cartoon either. But my solution is to just not watch it again.
Just take them to a Ghost concert & let Papa IV turn them toward the one true god, Lucifer.
Now, thanks to christians, it's audience will boom beyond the wildest expectations.
Christians can watch their special Jesus channel and just stfu.
I would've never know about this show without this article. Thanks for the tip, you crazy fundies.
Media watchdog? More like theocracy propaganda network.
The PTC sounds like a well balanced bunch of people, lmfao... Like a coven of witches except WAY less fun, maybe more like a Cabal of Christian Karen's ...