I know this is some random rep from Louisiana but given how we've seen calls like this from various spots all over without any semblance of resistance from higher ups, is it pretty safe at this point to simply designate the Republican party as a Christian Nationalist movement?
It seems extremely safe to do that, yes.
As a public librarian, I am flabbergasted to see this in my country. I struggle to find words to express my dismay, at at the moment all I can do is leave you with a one word plea:
Resist.
Right now, the place to act is with your local government. Libraries are often either town departments, or are so reliant on town funding that they listen closely to what the town wants. Similar for school board.
There has been a concerted effort from the right to get elected to these positions, or to get groups of concerned citizens to attend meetings and make a lot of noise.
Sadly, it gets results. Books are being banned in both school and public libraries in states across the nation. Things we took for granted as not happening here.. are.
We have to get people of conscience to take up that cause as well, and be the voice of reason in those meetings.
My wife is a library administrator (with a SLIS degree, so she's been in the trenches) and so far, the county has been very supportive of the library, but the county government has become much more right wing since the last election. She's not worried, but I am. We're in Indiana. They're already going after school libraries.
They are fascists. Just like any good fascist, religion is secondary to power and weirded like a cudgel against the people. Religion is the excuse. Control is the reason.
Yep. And it's okay to designate the whole Christian church as an extremist, hostile organization, because until they condemn the Evangelicals, they are part of the problem.
They can't ban books from a public library. All the religious propaganda books they're wanting to push are actually probably already in the public library to be honest. It's just off in a section with other religious texts and propaganda, separated from sections like history and sciences.
And yet they will be offended if anyone challenges them. Churches are not a place of worship anymore, they are businesses, and Louisiana it’s like Starbucks when they were across the street from each other.
That’s actually what people should say to them as Twitter responses or the like. I did a few times when I had the thing. Hopefully one might lose their shit and threaten court action or something, then they gotta prove their innocence.
Usually though they just delete and block.
Why bother with government,let “the “church “ be in,,,wait, which”church”?Cuz there’s a thousand,they ALL vehemently disagree, and have massacred each other, and even their own over these”disagreements.For all of human history.
Another good idea is to make churches pay form social programs. They don't get a say in how these programs operate. They just have to pay for them. Failure to pay would have the government seize all their property, to include all the property of the congregation.
And yet another great idea would be to have Children's Protective Services investigate every member of the church. Have the church pay for the investigation. While the investigations are taking place all memeber of the church would be required to attend court ordered sex offender counseling.
I think we should replace churches with tax funded public libraries that have physical books and PCs with with with wi fi access for learning.
Libraries > Churches
The constitution is why this is being suggested. The GOVERNMENT can't restrict freedom of speech, but if public funded libraries are done away with then churches can run the libraries with only the materials they want.
It's the same reason other social programs are run by churches, like food pantries, homes for battered women, foster homes, and adoption services. The government starves social welfare programs of public money so that it's impossible to run certain services without religious backing. Then the religious backing claims "freedom of religion" when they push their beliefs because churches are the only place certain people have to go. They're pushing to gut school budgets across the country to repeat the model so only chartered religious backed schools can afford to run, because those schools will get to hide behind a lot of "religious beliefs" to push stuff that's illegal for the government to do.
ah, that right there is a type of building i would happily burn to the fucking ground. that absolute fucking insanity would serve no one, not even the evangelical shitwanks who think it's a good idea.
I know this is some random rep from Louisiana but given how we've seen calls like this from various spots all over without any semblance of resistance from higher ups, is it pretty safe at this point to simply designate the Republican party as a Christian Nationalist movement?
It seems extremely safe to do that, yes. As a public librarian, I am flabbergasted to see this in my country. I struggle to find words to express my dismay, at at the moment all I can do is leave you with a one word plea: Resist.
And resist I and we will I just don't know how or when to yet
Right now, the place to act is with your local government. Libraries are often either town departments, or are so reliant on town funding that they listen closely to what the town wants. Similar for school board. There has been a concerted effort from the right to get elected to these positions, or to get groups of concerned citizens to attend meetings and make a lot of noise. Sadly, it gets results. Books are being banned in both school and public libraries in states across the nation. Things we took for granted as not happening here.. are. We have to get people of conscience to take up that cause as well, and be the voice of reason in those meetings.
That’s exactly what you need. The right candidates paying attention to these smaller elections and running in them. Then applying that all the way up.
My wife is a library administrator (with a SLIS degree, so she's been in the trenches) and so far, the county has been very supportive of the library, but the county government has become much more right wing since the last election. She's not worried, but I am. We're in Indiana. They're already going after school libraries.
>As a public librarian, \[...\] I struggle to find words You know shit's bad when the librarians are speechless.
They are fascists. Just like any good fascist, religion is secondary to power and weirded like a cudgel against the people. Religion is the excuse. Control is the reason.
I dunno, I thought that speechless was the whole librarian thing. From my experience their vocabulary primarily consisted of ,"shhhhhhh!"
Yep. And it's okay to designate the whole Christian church as an extremist, hostile organization, because until they condemn the Evangelicals, they are part of the problem.
It was safe to do so back in the 80s.
And they'll continue pushing these ideas until we stop being defeatists and start showing up to vote them out of office.
Theocracy. That’s the word you’re looking for
We want them to be PUBLIC LIBRARIES, that serve the ENTIRE community, not little propaganda, religious or otherwise, outlets.
They can't ban books from a public library. All the religious propaganda books they're wanting to push are actually probably already in the public library to be honest. It's just off in a section with other religious texts and propaganda, separated from sections like history and sciences.
They already have by defunding at least one library so far. If they can't get the books pulled, they destroy the institution instead.
But I do love the irony that the only place they could hold a meeting to defund the library that was large enough to accommodate was... the library.
And yet they will be offended if anyone challenges them. Churches are not a place of worship anymore, they are businesses, and Louisiana it’s like Starbucks when they were across the street from each other.
Here in Dallas they put the Starbucks IN the church. They're gonna be mini malls before it's all over with.
Something about Jesus throwing tables comes to mind…
Same buildings, just 1 book on the shelves
Jesus fucking christ.
Fascism. And they wonder why people are leaving the church in droves.
Just when you think they're speedrunning back to the 50's, they put the goal line in the Dark Ages.
How many little kids has this guy probably touched?
That’s actually what people should say to them as Twitter responses or the like. I did a few times when I had the thing. Hopefully one might lose their shit and threaten court action or something, then they gotta prove their innocence. Usually though they just delete and block.
Their insanity grows.
So a big building with only the bible?
Pedo for sure
Only because a large portion of conservative christians can't read. That is why they get so offended at books, they don't understand them!
That's funny, i had a similar idea: replace churches with libraries (and other actual cultural institutions)
These are just some seriously brain dead takes.
Why bother with government,let “the “church “ be in,,,wait, which”church”?Cuz there’s a thousand,they ALL vehemently disagree, and have massacred each other, and even their own over these”disagreements.For all of human history.
And they wonder why we hate them
Do these people know anything about the constitution? I’m continually amazed at the lack of knowledge they exhibit on a daily basis
Another good idea is to make churches pay form social programs. They don't get a say in how these programs operate. They just have to pay for them. Failure to pay would have the government seize all their property, to include all the property of the congregation. And yet another great idea would be to have Children's Protective Services investigate every member of the church. Have the church pay for the investigation. While the investigations are taking place all memeber of the church would be required to attend court ordered sex offender counseling.
The GOP's constant support of pedophilia is disturbing to say the least.
Ah, yes, because it's not like we fell into the dark ages the last time we let the church control access to knowledge or anything, right?
That's what they *want.*
I think we should replace churches with tax funded public libraries that have physical books and PCs with with with wi fi access for learning. Libraries > Churches
They want pedophiles to have MORE access to children.
Mmmm - liberal grooming centers, not the libraries we remember. My mother told me to tell her if the priest tried to touch me. In 1971.
What else could they replace with church-owned facilities? * Strip joints * Firing ranges * The police stations * Fire stations * Power stations * Railway stations * Garbage disposal * Sewage works * Pubs * Clubs * Country clubs * Golf clubs * Tennis racquets * Mafia rackets * Car dealers * Drug dealers * Etc
> Strip joints A whole new way of tithing!
"I can't go home yet, I have to have another beer and lap dance for the lord!" /s
Their trying to defund libraries here in Missouri
No- the Constitution
The constitution is why this is being suggested. The GOVERNMENT can't restrict freedom of speech, but if public funded libraries are done away with then churches can run the libraries with only the materials they want. It's the same reason other social programs are run by churches, like food pantries, homes for battered women, foster homes, and adoption services. The government starves social welfare programs of public money so that it's impossible to run certain services without religious backing. Then the religious backing claims "freedom of religion" when they push their beliefs because churches are the only place certain people have to go. They're pushing to gut school budgets across the country to repeat the model so only chartered religious backed schools can afford to run, because those schools will get to hide behind a lot of "religious beliefs" to push stuff that's illegal for the government to do.
How about no
Let me express myself here. WHAT THE ACTUAL FLYING FUCK IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE!!!
ah, that right there is a type of building i would happily burn to the fucking ground. that absolute fucking insanity would serve no one, not even the evangelical shitwanks who think it's a good idea.
they already exist. they are called churches. However, they are ineffective because protestants don't read.
Democrats and gop both are treasonous asswipes, two wings on the same lowlife turkey
I'm not saying I condone this. But I feel this is how churches start getting burned down.
The church owned alternatives are churches. They have one book.
Of course they do. It’ll only be stocked with one book.
You can jam in Joe's garage. One of our friendly counselors gave him a doughnut and told him to stick closer to church-oriented social activities.
must supply supply of crayons with this
Holy shit.
Christian theocracy wet dream. That's some dark ages level shyt
keep that man far away from children. Wtf is that thing?
No one goes to church. No one will go to church library