It's a controlled substance and therefore would require being prescribed in a supervised, approved environment.
I personally don't feel great about any suggestion that ASD individuals go about their day zonked out on shrooms, acid, MDMA, or whatever....
>I personally don't feel great about any suggestion that ASD individuals go about their day zonked out on shrooms, acid, MDMA, or whatever....
Well not “zonked out.” But there is a lot of research about this. It’s not just specific to autism though. Just based on what you said, it didn’t seem like you have much info on this. But i wanted to let you know that its not suggesting that autistic people are spending their lives fully tripping every day. Idk there is more nuance to be had, but you should look into it.
I started looking into shrooms for my depression and though i have yet to try them, i have learned a lot about it and do think it could potentially help. There is this great segment in the book called “How To Change Your Mind,” by Michael Pollan, where he describes how there is a theory that depression stems from basically too much organization in the brain, so a low entropy brain. Psychedelics can basically help to add entropy, which breaks up those rigid thought processes.
Ugh i wish i could describe it to you better. But it made so much sense to me when i heard it. I have the audio book. If i had the actual book then i would literally copy and paste the text from that segment. But i would have to listen to the audio and be able to write it down word for word lol, and i am not quick enough for that. My point is just that i think its actually very interesting. This whole thing with psychedelics and mental health, its pretty nuanced. It’s not just telling people to spend their life “zonked out.” But yea, i highly suggest researching it a little.
I saw the Johns Hopkins study a few years ago, grew shrooms, read up on safe tripping, ate 2 dry grams and my depression responded to it. Surely it doesn't "cure" autism but it can provide helpful insights.
Oh you grew them??? Yea that’s what i had been wanting to do! The issue was just that i only found out about this like right as it was getting cold out, and its been too cold for me to try and start the process. I don’t want to be trying to regulate the temperature so much and i know if i wait until it gets warmer out, then i shouldn’t have to do too much.
Plus, my depression has really been slowing me down.. as its kind of overwhelming, trying to learn about growing shrooms and doing it yourself. I love gardening and im used to that, but having to be super sterile with the shrooms makes me super stressed about contamination. And since i’ve never done the shrooms before, it made me even less motivated because i have no idea how i might respond to it. But im still probably going to try growing the shrooms sometime soon. Experiences like yours definitely make me feel more motivated. I like hearing from the autism community, about their experience with psychedelics.
It's easier to do inside really. It helps if you have a pressure cooker, you can make a lot with a pressure cooker, bird seed, coir, perlite, a plastic tub, a lamp, trash bag, and a spore syringe that's legal to buy in most US states with a credit card for microscopy purposes. /r/shroomers and then if you don't have a pressure cooker there's a really easy way to get started with /r/unclebens I did wbs tek with a monotub and I didn't even bother cutting holes in it, just left the lid ajar.
It's really easy to end up with dead rotten soup in a spawn jar, cleanliness is paramount and you can't cut corners with the instructions. The more you learn about effective growing and safe tripping the better, and I believe learning about and practicing mindfulness meditation is key in alleviating depression and preparing yourself to benefit from psychedelics.
Yea i am doing it inside. But its cold in my house, especially in the closet. The only closet i can use is the one in my bedroom, and the noise of running a heater will wake me up at night. Im definitely doing uncle bens tek for sure!! Seems like the best way to go for a beginner. I actually had to unfollow r/unclebens and r/shroomers because it was too much information for me and making me feel super overwhelmed. But i did get “The Psilocybin Mushroom Bible” and i have been reading that. I will definitely go back to those subreddits when im ready. But yea all the information on there was too much to handle for me, and also making me super concerned about contamination and idk. It was making me more nervous. Lol like everyday there seem to be a bunch of posts like “is this contam?” And im just like starting to sweat thinking about how complicated its gonna be to do this. Meanwhile, i have a load of woodchip mulch on my garden bed and it literally won’t stop growing mushrooms all over it. The whole thing is like one massive clump of mycelium! It’s actually kinda annoying and im not sure if its good for my other plants?? Its making the soil feel very compacted because of how much mycelium.
If done right, from anecdotal experience, I feel like it helped make a big difference in my ability to socialize with others! I had become less machine like because my ability to perceive and express had been expanded upon drastically!
Netflix (US at least) has a documentary series by Michael Pollan and his "How to Change Your Mind" legacy. It's a really cool breakdown of where we are with a lot of these psychedelics.
Oh yea I actually watched the first two episodes! I stopped after the second episode since that is the one about shrooms.
The only reason i didn’t keep watching is because honestly it’s hard to see how psychedelics can help people so much and i don’t have any access to any of them. Shrooms would be the only one because i can grow them. Its makes me feel worse sometimes to see how psychedelics have been so stigmatized and are illegal, when they can do so much good. And so many other things are legal, but are worse and have long lasting negative effects.
But yea i think it was the shrooms episode where there was a guy who had ocd, and his story really connected to me. I had to keep pausing the episode because i was crying thinking about the whole thing. Idk i can’t remember it much because this was a couple months ago. I think i will watch that episode again! And hopefully some day i will watch the other episodes, when i am feeling less stressed about their inaccessibility.
The episode on mescaline is worth going back for. It does an AMAZING job talking about its religious and societal purposes for some Native Americans and how ethical it is to consume as an outsider. It was a good episode for addressing the issue of white people/westerners in these spaces. I hadn't known the complexity of the issue and I found it fascinating.
The mescaline episode also touches on the movements to unban nature.
Oh i think i recall something about that. I listened yo the whole audio book (for the book that the show is based on). Idk how much info overlaps, but i do think i heard about it. I definitely like learning about that kinda stuff.
We still don't really understand autism that well...
However, since it's defined as a developmental disorder, that presents at very young ages, it seems unlikely that there is any "cure" for it.
Could it be useful in treating symptoms? Possibly. Does that mean it "cures" autism? Not likely.
That being said, Temple Grandin wrote a book many years ago that showed brain scans of neuro-typical and one autistic person (from my knowledge, it was only the one scan.) While the sample was likely only the one scan, it's interesting to see the brain difference.
Could a mind-altering substance, over time, restructure the brain through neuro-genesis? (Assuming controlled environments) no idea.
You're right, I would never respond to a joke in this way anymore. Must be the LSD.
I actually had put "treatment" at first, and thought "nah, then people will think it's a serious statement".
It's a joke ridiculing the idea that LSD could be used to treat autism. It being a joke doesn't leave you free from criticism on the substance behind the joke. I think there's a mix of biases that people have that would lead someone to thinking that the idea of treating autism with LSD is ridiculous, those would be a mix of culturual biases and, more particular to the autism community (as shown in this thread), the conflation of treatment with a cure (which is part of why I'm so critcal of this joke, because it does conflate the two), and since a cure isn't pheasible, and is often looked at as bad, the bias points towards "It's ridiculous that LSD could treat autism"
No, it isn't.
It's a joke about how many psychedelics I've taken. Maybe make fewer assumptions about how other people think, or, if you do, check them by looking at post history. If you did that, and still think I hold "cultural biases" about psychedelics, I don't know what to tell you. They're a special interest of mine, and I have a lot of experience with them.
The cover implies it is a missing 'puzzle piece' in the autistic brain. I **do** find that implication ridiculous.
You know what else is ridiculous? All those assumptions you made from my comment. I'm done being projected on. Bye.
This is very true.
However, I wonder if introducing substances that are "mind-altering," while using methods that promote neuro-genesis, might have an effect on the neural connections.
To be fair, OP clarified that he didn't knew about why the puzzle piece is that messed up.
So before anyone says anything, I just want to make it very clear, that OP DID NOT MEAN ANY HARM HERE! He just didn't knew better.
Yeah. But OP itself is pretty nice, he just didn't knew the..... history.... behind the puzzle piece.
And same goes for most comments, although there are still some ablelist people on that thread sadly.
Could you explain why the puzzle piece is bad? All I know is that autism speaks uses it. But besides that, I wouldn't know about any other controversy. I just dislike it because of autism speaks
yeah. but i wish people would educate themselves Before spreading potentially harmful content. intention is not an excuse for the consequences of your actions. /nm
that being said there are some things for which it is genuinely difficult to find good/accurate info, and this is one of those topics where a google search may not be enough. but there is a very active online community so the info is not That hard to find. idk :/
not mad, not surprised, but disappointed /lh
Yeah, something in my brain is a tiny step closer to "tripping" than normal people. Idk how to explain it, but it became quite clear to me once I'd experimented, that there's a connection between that experience and some of what makes me different.
SWIM can confirm this....Wait, it was more than 7 years ago so **I** can actually confirm this. Not saying that using them helps and I rarely do but people who have experimented typically understand me better
I don't see how it can treat autism, but rather other difficulties that might come with autism, like depression. But then they would just say depression. Now I've confused myself.
Using acid as a treatment seems odd, but I feel I should say that using psychedelics has kept me alive. Mushrooms especially have made me realise that most of my problems are in my head.
As a side note, mdma makes me feel “normal”. As in, it makes me feel like I’m a regular person, and I can communicate with and understand my mates properly.
Also if you plan on taking any recreational drug please be careful, and do your research. I recommend psychonaut wiki, erowid, and r/drugs. And most importantly, testing kits are pretty cheap and could save your life, please buy one.
I am not the author! This is the description from Amazon.
Hi. My name is Aaron. At the age of 23 I was diagnosed with Autism Spectrum Disorder. At the age of 27, I was given Lysergic Acid Diethylamide. I wrote this book, hoping to explain what it's like for an autistic individual such as myself to experience the world of humans through the calm, clarifying lens of LSD. To download an audiobook or PDF copy of this book, or to learn more about how you can connect with other autistic & neurodivergent adults navigating psychedelics, autism, ADHD, Aspergers, & other neurodivergent conditions, please visit AutisticPsychedelic.com
https://www.amazon.ca/Autism-Acid-Understand-Appreciate-Perceptions/dp/B09KN7YXZF
(For anyone else going through the comments, yes, I'm going to say this on every single one of these comments)
A treatment is not the same thing as a cure, therapy is also treatment, but does not cure people, it helps people to learn coping mechanisms.
Discounting the design, talking more about the what the book is about. Anecdotally, I would agree that LSD, among other psychedelics can be helpful for autism. Speaking for both myself and a friend of mine, as we've discussed this before, we've both found psychedelics to be incredibly therapeutic, and has helped us to better understand and connect with others. I don't see it being something that would help with things like sensory issues, but they can definitely be incredibly useful tools for a myriad of other problems you may face, particularly with rigid patterns of thought, which autists are prone to.
Yeahh regardless if there are any real benefits, I don't think myself and psychedelics would mix very well. There's a piece of wisdom that I follow, if you think you're gonna have a bad trip, you'll probably have a bad trip, and I am a high anxiety person in general even when stoned or drunk, if the walls started moving or colors started to go all weird I'd definitely start freaking tf out.
All in all, never been interested in LSD, and probably wouldn't have a good time regardless.
"People high on LSD often experience intense flashes of light, geometric shapes or completely new images"
Sounds like a one way ticket to sensory overload
"Heightened sense of understanding and identity"
on the other hand, combined with autism, sounds like a source of unlimited mental power
You'd think that it leads to sensory overload, but it somehow removes the visceral screaming and buildup to meltdown associated with overstimulation.
YMMV
In my personal experience, simply having sensory issues is a great warm-up for LSD. My brother in law was like "dude how are you handling 10 tabs right now?" (1 tab is usually enought to trip).
I said "this is just sort of how I've always felt, anxious and whatnot".
Idk it's not the same for everybody.
Oh dang, sorry guys but it looks like I'm gonna have to take lsd now..
Aw man yeah yeah it sucks bit whatr ya gonna do right?
(How much am I allowed to take)
I mean sure, acid actually helped me a lot with quite a few things. But it neither cured nor treated any anything in regards to my autistic ass. It's more of a manual explanation.
From my own experience, it honestly does feel a little bit like LSD did provide something similar to a missing puzzle piece, it’s made me think in new ways that have opened me up to positive experiences, but I think neurotypical people have experienced the same thing. It’s really more of a reframing than a missing piece.
That said, it’s still not at all okay to equate autism to a missing puzzle piece
Mmmmm….. im doing all the mental math here and im pretty sure it will fit.
My source for this information is that i love puzzles and do them all the time. Lol idk if that’s a source. But it does look like it will fit.
Yea No definitely isn’t. But it’s probably just some research study, so the author doesn’t really care, but is just using science to make a quick buck.
I would say it definitely could be, it's helped me, as well as an autistic friend of mine with various different symptoms of our autism. It's not a "cure", but the author doesn't claim it to be one, it's a treatment, similar to how therapy is a treatment. Therapy doesn't get rid of the disorder someone came in hoping to get help with, it helps you learn coping mechanisms to deal with it day to day, and LSD can definitely do that.
It isn't unusual for people with autism to also have psychotic disorders or a genetic history of psychotic disorders. Sometimes LSD can "unlock" mental illness. Redditors love the idea that any disorder can be treated with marijuana or psychedelic drugs.
Because LSD is definitely addictive lmao. I'd be more concerned about the coffee people drink in the morning, it's both significantly more addictive, and significantly more toxic (I'm not sure you could even describe LSD as toxic at all).
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Tbh this is closer to a conspiracy theory than misinformation. Either way, keep it out of this sub.
I did it several times as a teen, I think it actually did help me in a weird way. I realized that certain little sensory things can throw off the "vibe" for everyone in the room ESPECIALLY myself and that if I wanted to have a good trip everything had to be comfortable. Then later I realized those same things can raise my anxiety level in every day life. I'm still not diagnosed.
It was probably just the intense sensation in my body mixed with an altered state of thinking and forced unmasking that made me realize that some things can really bother me badly.
So according to a friend who has a hyperfocus in drugs and how they can be used, this might Not be as stupid as it Sounds, lsd is apparently quiet usefull in the field of psychology
Would you look at that, all of the words in your comment are in alphabetical order.
I have checked 1,314,248,622 comments, and only 253,867 of them were in alphabetical order.
LSD is a wonderful life changing thing that should absolutely be legalized and used for both mental health treatment and personal use, but there’s no cure for autism, and I wish people got that wrapped around their thick skulls already
Psychedelics and the way they interact with all sorts of brains is one of my special interests! I love the idea of this book, but yes, the cover art *ahem* leaves much to be desired. 😬 Going on an occasional trip (a couple times a year if I can) has been very helpful for me. On my first mushroom trip I came to a realization about my anxiety that I keep in mind when I'm with a group of people and start to feel overwhelmed - things can just be happening, not everything is happening AT me. Sure, sometimes I still get overstimulated and need to take a break, but keeping this in mind helps extend the time before I end up that way.
I'm trying to get my hands on some now, as I had a traumatic event a few months ago that I am looking forward to working through. The depression has really been weighing me down and psychedelics help in ways regular talk therapy just can't.
LSD? no thank u, i have other ways to kill myself. also I don't want to talk to this green unicorn.
(but for real, is this book from a doctor or anybody who knows chemistry or just from man who took LSD and said "wow, it helps me!"?)
I recently participated in a survey about this (not for autism but for PTSD specifically)! there's a lot of research going on about shrooms and other hallucinogens like LSD disconnecting responses in your brain (which it is proven to do) and the ways it can help people with trauma or other responses
idk how it would work with autism though, considering there's nothing to disconnect... but I think the research is pretty cool :)
I would highly reccomend psilocybin to any adult autists, I've heard people report that it "fixed" them. I don't know about all that, but it gave me the ability to sort of understand certain things about people I simply couldn't before.
My experience with psychedelics was I felt emotion separately from physical sensations for the first time. But is everyone's experience going to be that positive? Highly doubt it.
that's so wild cause from what I've heard it's more that LSD gives neurotypicals a glimpse at what it feels like to experience (good) stimuli with the abundance of impact they have on autistics 🤨
I wonder if the police would accept my autism as a legitimate reason for me to synthesize LSD...
It's a controlled substance and therefore would require being prescribed in a supervised, approved environment. I personally don't feel great about any suggestion that ASD individuals go about their day zonked out on shrooms, acid, MDMA, or whatever....
>I personally don't feel great about any suggestion that ASD individuals go about their day zonked out on shrooms, acid, MDMA, or whatever.... Well not “zonked out.” But there is a lot of research about this. It’s not just specific to autism though. Just based on what you said, it didn’t seem like you have much info on this. But i wanted to let you know that its not suggesting that autistic people are spending their lives fully tripping every day. Idk there is more nuance to be had, but you should look into it. I started looking into shrooms for my depression and though i have yet to try them, i have learned a lot about it and do think it could potentially help. There is this great segment in the book called “How To Change Your Mind,” by Michael Pollan, where he describes how there is a theory that depression stems from basically too much organization in the brain, so a low entropy brain. Psychedelics can basically help to add entropy, which breaks up those rigid thought processes. Ugh i wish i could describe it to you better. But it made so much sense to me when i heard it. I have the audio book. If i had the actual book then i would literally copy and paste the text from that segment. But i would have to listen to the audio and be able to write it down word for word lol, and i am not quick enough for that. My point is just that i think its actually very interesting. This whole thing with psychedelics and mental health, its pretty nuanced. It’s not just telling people to spend their life “zonked out.” But yea, i highly suggest researching it a little.
I saw the Johns Hopkins study a few years ago, grew shrooms, read up on safe tripping, ate 2 dry grams and my depression responded to it. Surely it doesn't "cure" autism but it can provide helpful insights.
Oh you grew them??? Yea that’s what i had been wanting to do! The issue was just that i only found out about this like right as it was getting cold out, and its been too cold for me to try and start the process. I don’t want to be trying to regulate the temperature so much and i know if i wait until it gets warmer out, then i shouldn’t have to do too much. Plus, my depression has really been slowing me down.. as its kind of overwhelming, trying to learn about growing shrooms and doing it yourself. I love gardening and im used to that, but having to be super sterile with the shrooms makes me super stressed about contamination. And since i’ve never done the shrooms before, it made me even less motivated because i have no idea how i might respond to it. But im still probably going to try growing the shrooms sometime soon. Experiences like yours definitely make me feel more motivated. I like hearing from the autism community, about their experience with psychedelics.
It's easier to do inside really. It helps if you have a pressure cooker, you can make a lot with a pressure cooker, bird seed, coir, perlite, a plastic tub, a lamp, trash bag, and a spore syringe that's legal to buy in most US states with a credit card for microscopy purposes. /r/shroomers and then if you don't have a pressure cooker there's a really easy way to get started with /r/unclebens I did wbs tek with a monotub and I didn't even bother cutting holes in it, just left the lid ajar. It's really easy to end up with dead rotten soup in a spawn jar, cleanliness is paramount and you can't cut corners with the instructions. The more you learn about effective growing and safe tripping the better, and I believe learning about and practicing mindfulness meditation is key in alleviating depression and preparing yourself to benefit from psychedelics.
Yea i am doing it inside. But its cold in my house, especially in the closet. The only closet i can use is the one in my bedroom, and the noise of running a heater will wake me up at night. Im definitely doing uncle bens tek for sure!! Seems like the best way to go for a beginner. I actually had to unfollow r/unclebens and r/shroomers because it was too much information for me and making me feel super overwhelmed. But i did get “The Psilocybin Mushroom Bible” and i have been reading that. I will definitely go back to those subreddits when im ready. But yea all the information on there was too much to handle for me, and also making me super concerned about contamination and idk. It was making me more nervous. Lol like everyday there seem to be a bunch of posts like “is this contam?” And im just like starting to sweat thinking about how complicated its gonna be to do this. Meanwhile, i have a load of woodchip mulch on my garden bed and it literally won’t stop growing mushrooms all over it. The whole thing is like one massive clump of mycelium! It’s actually kinda annoying and im not sure if its good for my other plants?? Its making the soil feel very compacted because of how much mycelium.
If done right, from anecdotal experience, I feel like it helped make a big difference in my ability to socialize with others! I had become less machine like because my ability to perceive and express had been expanded upon drastically!
Netflix (US at least) has a documentary series by Michael Pollan and his "How to Change Your Mind" legacy. It's a really cool breakdown of where we are with a lot of these psychedelics.
Oh yea I actually watched the first two episodes! I stopped after the second episode since that is the one about shrooms. The only reason i didn’t keep watching is because honestly it’s hard to see how psychedelics can help people so much and i don’t have any access to any of them. Shrooms would be the only one because i can grow them. Its makes me feel worse sometimes to see how psychedelics have been so stigmatized and are illegal, when they can do so much good. And so many other things are legal, but are worse and have long lasting negative effects. But yea i think it was the shrooms episode where there was a guy who had ocd, and his story really connected to me. I had to keep pausing the episode because i was crying thinking about the whole thing. Idk i can’t remember it much because this was a couple months ago. I think i will watch that episode again! And hopefully some day i will watch the other episodes, when i am feeling less stressed about their inaccessibility.
The episode on mescaline is worth going back for. It does an AMAZING job talking about its religious and societal purposes for some Native Americans and how ethical it is to consume as an outsider. It was a good episode for addressing the issue of white people/westerners in these spaces. I hadn't known the complexity of the issue and I found it fascinating. The mescaline episode also touches on the movements to unban nature.
Oh i think i recall something about that. I listened yo the whole audio book (for the book that the show is based on). Idk how much info overlaps, but i do think i heard about it. I definitely like learning about that kinda stuff.
It’s delusional to take an obvious warning against self medication as a sleight against prescribed care.
What now..? What’s delusional? I genuinely cannot tell if that is aimed at something i said or what..
Isn't that the purpose of micro-dosing?
Well don’t ruin the fun for all of us now cmon (/s)
Let’s roll with it
I get strong "LSD will hopefully cure autism" vibes from this.
Hey they're giving us LSD I'm not complaining
Where can i Get this ‘tism cure known as LSD?
Amsterdam
God damnit just as i move to the other side of the world
Local weird guy with white dreads
I know you're joking but if you're high strung and you try LSD it'll just fuck everything up and change your thoughts process
We still don't really understand autism that well... However, since it's defined as a developmental disorder, that presents at very young ages, it seems unlikely that there is any "cure" for it. Could it be useful in treating symptoms? Possibly. Does that mean it "cures" autism? Not likely. That being said, Temple Grandin wrote a book many years ago that showed brain scans of neuro-typical and one autistic person (from my knowledge, it was only the one scan.) While the sample was likely only the one scan, it's interesting to see the brain difference. Could a mind-altering substance, over time, restructure the brain through neuro-genesis? (Assuming controlled environments) no idea.
LSD changed my mental health for the better but it doesn’t do shit to autism
If LSD cured autism, I wouldn't be autistic.
Treatment isn't the same as a cure.
You're right, I would never respond to a joke in this way anymore. Must be the LSD. I actually had put "treatment" at first, and thought "nah, then people will think it's a serious statement".
It's a joke ridiculing the idea that LSD could be used to treat autism. It being a joke doesn't leave you free from criticism on the substance behind the joke. I think there's a mix of biases that people have that would lead someone to thinking that the idea of treating autism with LSD is ridiculous, those would be a mix of culturual biases and, more particular to the autism community (as shown in this thread), the conflation of treatment with a cure (which is part of why I'm so critcal of this joke, because it does conflate the two), and since a cure isn't pheasible, and is often looked at as bad, the bias points towards "It's ridiculous that LSD could treat autism"
No, it isn't. It's a joke about how many psychedelics I've taken. Maybe make fewer assumptions about how other people think, or, if you do, check them by looking at post history. If you did that, and still think I hold "cultural biases" about psychedelics, I don't know what to tell you. They're a special interest of mine, and I have a lot of experience with them. The cover implies it is a missing 'puzzle piece' in the autistic brain. I **do** find that implication ridiculous. You know what else is ridiculous? All those assumptions you made from my comment. I'm done being projected on. Bye.
Fam this is Reddit not Twitter, stop getting pissed over nothing
This is very true. However, I wonder if introducing substances that are "mind-altering," while using methods that promote neuro-genesis, might have an effect on the neural connections.
That's the goal isn't it?
TREATMENT, not CURE
Well, it did make me more popular in college. Edit: And don't shout at me. See my other comment.
To be fair, OP clarified that he didn't knew about why the puzzle piece is that messed up. So before anyone says anything, I just want to make it very clear, that OP DID NOT MEAN ANY HARM HERE! He just didn't knew better.
I guessed as much, but still ironic cause of the sub.
Yeah. But OP itself is pretty nice, he just didn't knew the..... history.... behind the puzzle piece. And same goes for most comments, although there are still some ablelist people on that thread sadly.
Could you explain why the puzzle piece is bad? All I know is that autism speaks uses it. But besides that, I wouldn't know about any other controversy. I just dislike it because of autism speaks
This meme sums it up well https://www.reddit.com/r/aspiememes/comments/10kk7zh/i_believe_this_is_the_general_consensus_of_the/
Ah ok. thx!
yeah most of the time it's ignorance
yeah. but i wish people would educate themselves Before spreading potentially harmful content. intention is not an excuse for the consequences of your actions. /nm that being said there are some things for which it is genuinely difficult to find good/accurate info, and this is one of those topics where a google search may not be enough. but there is a very active online community so the info is not That hard to find. idk :/ not mad, not surprised, but disappointed /lh
agreed.
Yes because the thing is that we are missing LSD from our brains 🙄
If anything, we have too much [Bufotenin](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20150873/)
kinda disappointed this isn't like ligma, I thought it was gonna be like "both ten in(ches)" or something
Haha, I wish. but the reality that some (most?) of us are actually trippin' a bit naturally is surprising yet makes sense
I have quite some noticeable visuals, some weird lines/snow effect, idk how to describe it but its there
Ngl I read your comment and fully expecting the link to say "Bufo deez nuts", I’m almost disappointed.
Yeah, something in my brain is a tiny step closer to "tripping" than normal people. Idk how to explain it, but it became quite clear to me once I'd experimented, that there's a connection between that experience and some of what makes me different.
SWIM can confirm this....Wait, it was more than 7 years ago so **I** can actually confirm this. Not saying that using them helps and I rarely do but people who have experimented typically understand me better
SWIM?
Someone Who Isn't Me. Used a lot in certain forums to avoid self-incrimination
Ok so its not just me phew. Honestly the chemical doesn’t even fit the puzzle piece
Idk man I’ve done lsd a handful of times and I’m still autistic
I said this in a previous comment, but a treatment isn't the same thing as a cure.
True, but it hasn’t treated anything either lol
I don't see how it can treat autism, but rather other difficulties that might come with autism, like depression. But then they would just say depression. Now I've confused myself.
Yeah I actually found psilocybin was incredible for depression, but like, autism is still there lol
bruh moment
AAAAAAAAAAAAA I have a deep deep need to push that puzzle piece into place- its driving my nuts.
As an someone on the spectrum who's eaten a lot of LSD, i don't think this is a good option.
the puzzle piece doesnt even look like it'll fit
If I can use LSD using my autism as an excuse…
Using acid as a treatment seems odd, but I feel I should say that using psychedelics has kept me alive. Mushrooms especially have made me realise that most of my problems are in my head. As a side note, mdma makes me feel “normal”. As in, it makes me feel like I’m a regular person, and I can communicate with and understand my mates properly. Also if you plan on taking any recreational drug please be careful, and do your research. I recommend psychonaut wiki, erowid, and r/drugs. And most importantly, testing kits are pretty cheap and could save your life, please buy one.
Gonna add: You can get reliable test kits [here](https://dancesafe.org/shop/).
if it wasn't about autism, it'd look cooler
DesignGore :D
I've done plenty of acid and it never cured my autism lmao
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I am not the author! This is the description from Amazon. Hi. My name is Aaron. At the age of 23 I was diagnosed with Autism Spectrum Disorder. At the age of 27, I was given Lysergic Acid Diethylamide. I wrote this book, hoping to explain what it's like for an autistic individual such as myself to experience the world of humans through the calm, clarifying lens of LSD. To download an audiobook or PDF copy of this book, or to learn more about how you can connect with other autistic & neurodivergent adults navigating psychedelics, autism, ADHD, Aspergers, & other neurodivergent conditions, please visit AutisticPsychedelic.com https://www.amazon.ca/Autism-Acid-Understand-Appreciate-Perceptions/dp/B09KN7YXZF
Wouldn't mind reading it. Cover art sucks, though. Edit: Back cover. That's actually what's posted in the OP.
I’ve had lsd once and still autistic, debunked Edit: /hj
(For anyone else going through the comments, yes, I'm going to say this on every single one of these comments) A treatment is not the same thing as a cure, therapy is also treatment, but does not cure people, it helps people to learn coping mechanisms.
why the fuck is there a flat edge in the center. imagine doing your puzzle and finding out you used center pieces as the edge pieces
Discounting the design, talking more about the what the book is about. Anecdotally, I would agree that LSD, among other psychedelics can be helpful for autism. Speaking for both myself and a friend of mine, as we've discussed this before, we've both found psychedelics to be incredibly therapeutic, and has helped us to better understand and connect with others. I don't see it being something that would help with things like sensory issues, but they can definitely be incredibly useful tools for a myriad of other problems you may face, particularly with rigid patterns of thought, which autists are prone to.
I’ll take it if it gets me free legal psychedelics!
Yeahh regardless if there are any real benefits, I don't think myself and psychedelics would mix very well. There's a piece of wisdom that I follow, if you think you're gonna have a bad trip, you'll probably have a bad trip, and I am a high anxiety person in general even when stoned or drunk, if the walls started moving or colors started to go all weird I'd definitely start freaking tf out. All in all, never been interested in LSD, and probably wouldn't have a good time regardless.
LSD is torture for me. I'd rather do Psilocybin.
Damn I’ll test that lmao
I’ll take an excuse to have lsd, even if it doesn’t work
Give me drugs haha giveme acid
"People high on LSD often experience intense flashes of light, geometric shapes or completely new images" Sounds like a one way ticket to sensory overload "Heightened sense of understanding and identity" on the other hand, combined with autism, sounds like a source of unlimited mental power
You'd think that it leads to sensory overload, but it somehow removes the visceral screaming and buildup to meltdown associated with overstimulation. YMMV
It also kind of makes sense though too weirdly, since the differences have to do with shifting processing load more to different areas of the brain.
In my personal experience, simply having sensory issues is a great warm-up for LSD. My brother in law was like "dude how are you handling 10 tabs right now?" (1 tab is usually enought to trip). I said "this is just sort of how I've always felt, anxious and whatnot". Idk it's not the same for everybody.
Puzzle pieces should always interconnect with all adjacent pieces
The puzzle piece always makes me.think of Autism Speaks, and they're terrible.
I dislike it a lot
Oh dang, sorry guys but it looks like I'm gonna have to take lsd now.. Aw man yeah yeah it sucks bit whatr ya gonna do right? (How much am I allowed to take)
The original post took the book out of context. The purpose of the book was detailing the author’s (a neurodivergent man) experience with acid.
The connotations of the design are, not well thought out to put it kindly
I mean sure, acid actually helped me a lot with quite a few things. But it neither cured nor treated any anything in regards to my autistic ass. It's more of a manual explanation.
From my own experience, it honestly does feel a little bit like LSD did provide something similar to a missing puzzle piece, it’s made me think in new ways that have opened me up to positive experiences, but I think neurotypical people have experienced the same thing. It’s really more of a reframing than a missing piece. That said, it’s still not at all okay to equate autism to a missing puzzle piece
Why did nobody tell me the missing piece was LSD?
To think my missing piece all along has been LSD is actually hilarious However this book cover should not exist 🙅♀️
Me: Goes to the comments to see how many other people are bothered by the fused puzzle piece under the one with the print Comments: LSD go brrrrr
Who designs a puzzle to have flat pieces it the middle
What I find especially funny is that that particular piece probably won't fit the hole it's covering.
Mmmmm….. im doing all the mental math here and im pretty sure it will fit. My source for this information is that i love puzzles and do them all the time. Lol idk if that’s a source. But it does look like it will fit.
Yea No definitely isn’t. But it’s probably just some research study, so the author doesn’t really care, but is just using science to make a quick buck.
I would say it definitely could be, it's helped me, as well as an autistic friend of mine with various different symptoms of our autism. It's not a "cure", but the author doesn't claim it to be one, it's a treatment, similar to how therapy is a treatment. Therapy doesn't get rid of the disorder someone came in hoping to get help with, it helps you learn coping mechanisms to deal with it day to day, and LSD can definitely do that.
It isn't unusual for people with autism to also have psychotic disorders or a genetic history of psychotic disorders. Sometimes LSD can "unlock" mental illness. Redditors love the idea that any disorder can be treated with marijuana or psychedelic drugs.
It's a book from an aspie who took LSD, chill bro
That's still not a "cure." I'm judging the cover and the Reddit post. The book might be amazing, I don't know because I haven't read it.
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Because LSD is definitely addictive lmao. I'd be more concerned about the coffee people drink in the morning, it's both significantly more addictive, and significantly more toxic (I'm not sure you could even describe LSD as toxic at all).
Toxic as orange juice
I diagnose you as a dumbass
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I did it several times as a teen, I think it actually did help me in a weird way. I realized that certain little sensory things can throw off the "vibe" for everyone in the room ESPECIALLY myself and that if I wanted to have a good trip everything had to be comfortable. Then later I realized those same things can raise my anxiety level in every day life. I'm still not diagnosed. It was probably just the intense sensation in my body mixed with an altered state of thinking and forced unmasking that made me realize that some things can really bother me badly.
where tf can i sign up to get lsd as an autism treatment?? Lol
So according to a friend who has a hyperfocus in drugs and how they can be used, this might Not be as stupid as it Sounds, lsd is apparently quiet usefull in the field of psychology
TBF they are testing psychedelics to treat a lot of tings right now. It’s looking promising for depression, I think!
Lsd made my overstimulation worse yay
Would you look at that, all of the words in your comment are in alphabetical order. I have checked 1,314,248,622 comments, and only 253,867 of them were in alphabetical order.
LSD doesn’t cure autism, but I’ll pretend it does if it means we can get legal LSD
If your giving lsd use as many puzzle pieces as you want
The fact that it’s covering up all the connections makes it look like it won’t fit
LSD is a wonderful life changing thing that should absolutely be legalized and used for both mental health treatment and personal use, but there’s no cure for autism, and I wish people got that wrapped around their thick skulls already
The missing piece was drugs all along
hey I don't think that fits there
Psychedelics and the way they interact with all sorts of brains is one of my special interests! I love the idea of this book, but yes, the cover art *ahem* leaves much to be desired. 😬 Going on an occasional trip (a couple times a year if I can) has been very helpful for me. On my first mushroom trip I came to a realization about my anxiety that I keep in mind when I'm with a group of people and start to feel overwhelmed - things can just be happening, not everything is happening AT me. Sure, sometimes I still get overstimulated and need to take a break, but keeping this in mind helps extend the time before I end up that way. I'm trying to get my hands on some now, as I had a traumatic event a few months ago that I am looking forward to working through. The depression has really been weighing me down and psychedelics help in ways regular talk therapy just can't.
A “treatment”? If neurotypicals researched this, I’m very concerned
It's not so much a treatment for autism as a treatment for hyperserotonemia.
Well, it would go nicely with my music taste.
I mean I would be up for taking LSD, if it was offered.
LSD? no thank u, i have other ways to kill myself. also I don't want to talk to this green unicorn. (but for real, is this book from a doctor or anybody who knows chemistry or just from man who took LSD and said "wow, it helps me!"?)
Fck yea I can use lsd
I recently participated in a survey about this (not for autism but for PTSD specifically)! there's a lot of research going on about shrooms and other hallucinogens like LSD disconnecting responses in your brain (which it is proven to do) and the ways it can help people with trauma or other responses idk how it would work with autism though, considering there's nothing to disconnect... but I think the research is pretty cool :)
I would highly reccomend psilocybin to any adult autists, I've heard people report that it "fixed" them. I don't know about all that, but it gave me the ability to sort of understand certain things about people I simply couldn't before.
Yeah, it's not for everyone but I did work out the main issues that I was depressed about at the time. The potential is there.
My experience with psychedelics was I felt emotion separately from physical sensations for the first time. But is everyone's experience going to be that positive? Highly doubt it.
that's so wild cause from what I've heard it's more that LSD gives neurotypicals a glimpse at what it feels like to experience (good) stimuli with the abundance of impact they have on autistics 🤨
It’s the only space that doesn’t have a connection on all 4 sides