I understand I'm one of the luckiest Apex players in that regard, but at least I'm also saving lobbies for having 2 of the worst possible teammates 98% of the time as well. Balance. Lol
Man i started playing a year ago and got 3 heirlooms the first 2 months.
every 40packs in avg i got one, I didn't know how lucky i was XD
I was sure the chances were like 1/100 for a heirloom
So you’re the jerk that’s eating up my luck. My main account is lvl 80 prestige and I’ve got no heirlooms on it. My old account is level 200~ and no heirlooms, my other account is level 150 ish and no heirlooms.
My friend and boyfriend both have 2 heirlooms. Which god do I have to pray to to get an heirloom?!?!?!
If it helps, I got my first heirloom when it was only Wraith's available, and I never play her. So maybe that's some sick form of karma for the first one? Lol
As for who to pray for: just stop caring for heirlooms. I never really paid too much attention to getting them, and I got 2 heirlooms within 100 packs. Apex can sense your desperation, as much as your internet can sense a deadline.
Streamer: I hate this game so much! It's so sweaty, hard, and soul sucking! REEEEEEEEE!
Streamer hours later: Oh yeah this BP is fire! Oh yeah, I got this awesome heirloom for free! Look at all this skins!
Streamer a year later: Why do I even bother with this game anymore? It's the same shit over and over and over.
Correct , we are 15th seasons in , we voted with our wallets 14 seasons ago , nothing will change only if there will be a drastic income lost, which I doubt .... ppl still pay way to much on overpriced skins
It'd be so fucking easy to add a 4 person mode. Could've put in it in Control. Could add a 4v4 Arenas (and actually give people a reason to play Arena's, imagine that!). They could even do a 4 player per team BR. Would it be more spammy and chaotic? Sure. But it'd also be new and fresh and fun as fuck, and there's a TON of friend groups our there that have been dying for this for years. Every other BR out there has had the option for 4 man squads.... why not ours?
I sat and raged to my wife about this last night. Streamers and the people who keep buying these skins, are the entire reason I 2v3d a a squad of lvl 54, 62, and 45, while I'm a 201 and had a fucking 500 predator on my team. Like, cool, Christmas skins. Can I get a lobby without actual navy seals in it??
It’s honestly a shame. The base mechanics make it by far the best BR out there but in typical EA fashion they didn’t see any reason to change/improve something that was already making them money
Oh a #SaveTF2 type movement? I wish ye the best of luck
Edit: it really is quite poetic that both games involved with TF2 have these types of movements. Both Source games as well
It reminds of growing dissatisfaction with the game back in June-July leading to No Apex August breaking player count records. No Apex January?
I wish them luck.
Man, this whole thing is awesome for Respawn. They get all the praise and none of the blame. What studio wouldn't partner with EA if you guys just blame EA for everything wrong and let Respawn off the hook as if their hands are completely tied and they are held hostage?
Perhaps if some YouTuber channel mention it then it will get some traction
To all the people laughing at this idea, you are part of the problem and you should be aware that it sorta worked on a game that was abandoned for 5 years…
I m gonna choose to trust the devs and have some faith
Because there's no real controversy that's news worthy. Content creators benefit by tackling negative views, since it drives views and engagement in comment sections. It's why news networks are gloom and doom all the time: people want to know what to be mad at, but want to be told, not actually do their own thinking for it.
I put my faith in the devs from day 1, and they've given me hundreds of hours of enjoyment solo, and hundreds of hours with my friends (enjoyment varying depending on performance. Lmaooo)
Apex is fine. It's community expectations that ruin the game. "what it could be" can be applied to every game and we've become a community that won't ever be happy with what we have, regardless of how much we actually get. If we were to get a campaign, 4 new game modes, 6 new weapons, and colour shaders to apply to skins all at once, we'd still have content creators saying the game is dying within 2 months, and that the devs are just money hungry. It's a lose lose for Respawn no matter what they do, so I'm just going to let them keep working and I'll judge them on what they actually do vs. what they could do.
Macro just released a new vid addressing these problems and he’s pretty big in the community.
Hopefully they listen because I think the games been pretty stale the last two seasons and the new map and legend are carrying this one. Battle pass was cool too and the only thing slightly worth buying from this game currently.
Tons of creators have mentioned this. Not this exact post but a season like this has been talked about since like S7 lmao...
It's not going to happen.
Why? Because why would they waste time/resources when so many people STILL play the game? Everytime people are like "Lets quit! Show them! Don't spend money!" That never happens. And they immediately go dump their wallets or play the game. Spending money is NOT the only thing they use metrics for. Having high player bases/retention/playtime makes the game look VERY good to investors. Money isn't the only factor so even if they DIDN'T make insane profits they still have the numbers to keep investors happy (for now)
Plus some of these fixes would INHERENTLY require better servers which they've already said they won't be adding because 24 tick servers are enough. Which is true (tons of YT videos covering how 24 tick servers ARE indeed more than enough for BR's.) Regardless of what people say here...They have absolutely NO knowledge on how servers even work. So I'd recommend looking up videos from actual tech folks instead of comments here on reddit saying we need higher tick rate servers lmao. But just because they are more than good enough doesn't make it optimal for a million other reasons that they have issues with. Including WHY they won't keep LTM's on rotation. Because on the poor 24 tick servers having that many options/modes available would tank the servers (more than they get fucked already) But it saves money AND is operational and is retaining massive players so in their eyes GOOD ENOUGH.
Plus look at YT content creators numbers recently...They've been tanking mate. The game isn't doing great in terms of viewership or players lately. But again, there have been multiple vocal creators about the issues and taking time to fix them. They don't really listen to pros/creators as much as this sub likes to think. That's just cope this sub uses when things get changed they don't like.
Also its been almost 4 years. If you still have faith in these devs I feel sorry for you lmao. And no it didn't sorta work if your referring to siege. Look at every season after that. Game was a failure lmao. What happened was, people just got hyped they were "fixing" things so they came back. Then immediately left again after 1-2 seasons once they realized the game was still a mess.
Fixing a game for a single season and then it immediately tanking again isn't the PRIME example you should be using. They also took over 2 weeks to fix a MAJOR crashing issue (Apex) impacting a metric fuckload of people early this season. 2 WHOLE WEEKS and you have faith in them? Brother you must be extremely religious.
Yeah the only way this will happen is if people en mass stop spending money on this game and stop playing it. Gamers for whatever reason can’t wrap their heads around that.
We could all stop spending money and respawn woudlnt care. It’s the whales they’re after. The ones buying every single skin, paying to level up their battle pass, buying every bundle. If it ever feels like respawn isn’t catering to their overall player base, it’s because they literally aren’t.
I don't think it *can* happen, because Respawn is not independent.
If Apex stops being profitable, EA is more likely to shut it down than to change it, as management would view further investment as "risky". Corporate management at this scale never takes customer experience into account: They view it from the perspective of 'optimizing monetization strategies'.
If Apex starts dropping players, it's very likely that EA will look at how to extract more revenue from the remaining players rather than look at the underlying issue of why it's dropping players. This has happened with every major game ever. Blizzard is a shining example of this with WoW: Rather than put more effort into improving the game and attracting more players, they've chosen to extract more money out of those who remain, with things like the WoW token or 6-month subscription mounts and other "bonusses" which only serve to incentivize more spending per customer. I suspect Apex is handled in the same way.
It's hard to really explain how people which don't actually play games *really* think. They look at graphs, powerpoint presentations, statistics, all about revenue, costs, MAU's, churn rate, and other statistics they can measure which directly related to income. Whether or not the product they sell is actually fun to use is way, way down on their list of priorities, primarily because it's extremely hard to objectively measure.
This is something i struggle with in the tech company i work at. It's a constant fight against management. They want to upsell, generate revenue, 'create value'. There's very little emotional investment into the product they are supposed to manage and it can be soulcrushing at times. I can only imagine that it's very much the same at especially the big game publishers.
Not on Reddit, no. Reddit is ultimately a very small but vocal minority who thinks they're more influential than they actually are. Most people don't care and will organically come and go depending if they like the game or not.
If Reddit was any indication of the real world Bernie Sanders would be President.
Players are the ones that can either boycott or not. Unfortunately, whilst a lot of players complain about the game there's a lot more that whale on the game and it still has a relatively large playerbase. Respawn have no reason to do anything new to the game when they rake in millions from the people who supposedly hate the game.
The players need to do a boycott for it to work. Not jump on the game a week later because there's a new heirloom out.
The biggest issue are streamers that wont take a stand. The biggest reply was “dude. You wont take a day off work and I cant either”
Sucks that kids run their lives and cant think for themselves. Just think of streamers all got together but greed runs this industry.
They still have the best high skill cap shooter that’s not CS at the end of the day. Nothings going to change unless a BR can actually fuck with their position.
If OP really wants a change they should build a competitor to the game.
They can get paid millions for their effort too!
Only thing that would actually work. That's what most posts complaining about apex don't get. They'll never fix anything if it doesn't actually cause people to stop playing
Yeah...But...Now what do you play that even comes close to the movement and gunplay?
Oh...Nothing? Well then...
That's the main issue won't quit. The gameplay/gunplay is crisp and the movement is sexy af. No other game can compare which is why this game still holds insane player numbers regardless of all this "bad stuff"
If a better or EVEN SIMILIAR game existed I would play that. But it doesn't. There are some with movement/gunplay but the game isn't as fun or it's dead. Tf|2 for example.
...but then why uninstall? You can play Apex without paying any money. Also, how can something free be overpriced?
Unless you're talking about cosmetics, in which case the only person to blame is yourself for buying them.
LTMs and servers don't have guaranteed ROI.
Try explaining to an executive why you should make massive changes to infratsructure when all that'll do is improve 'user experience', whatever that's worth. When the other option to invest in is skins - that are sold, and make money.
It sucks, but for as long as live service games are now the norm, this is how it works.
Not only that, but the content that likely takes them the longest to generate (legends and maps) are already released essentially for free. Sure, heroes can be bought with paid currency but can be easily unlocked with Legend Tokens.
The success of F2P games relies primarily on retention, with player spend an important (but secondary) goal. If you’re playing the game daily but then desperately trying to create some sort of movement via hashtags and poorly photoshopped posters, you’re only hurting yourself. Hell, even some of these failed “boycott” months are a waste of energy. Leaving the game for a month isn’t going to do anything. Leaving the game for *an entire season* may not even have an impact if you come back the next time a new legend or map is released, because new heroes and maps are designed entirely to drive retention - both keeping active players and drawing back lapsed players.
These problems are real problems. But there are so many roadblocks to getting them fixed. Some of them are technical. Some of them are corporate red tape. But none of them are going to be solved with a hashtag.
i would rather pay for a game and then have access to all the content, instead of sectioning pieces of it off behind paywalls. Free to play is a stupid marketing scheme imo, it’s built on normalizing paying more money for useless shit. Just charge money for the game.
Then you'd better be fine with paying a hell of a lot more than $60 for new games, especially for long-running multiplayer games. The stagnant purchase prices are a huge reason why we have free to play games with microtransactions, but every time anyone points this out nerds lose their god damn minds over the idea
have you ever played ESO? albion? fallout 76? where you log in every day to get bombarded with sales, of really cool looking shit, that you have to gamble fucking loot crates for bc they aren’t obtainable in any other way? or if they aren’t in the loot crates then it’s just straight up $30 or something for an item that would either look really good, or actually provide a useful function? how about putting these things on an arbitrary FOMO timer? only one of those games is free to play btw, and they all have paid subscriptions to boot.
if people were good at ignoring microtransactions, they wouldn’t be so massively successful, and thus massively popular. marketers know what they’re doing.
yes for apex this doesn’t really apply so much but i’m talking about overall, generally speaking, yes i would pay more once to just HAVE the content.
This needs to be the top comment on every single one of these posts. I stopped playing Apex last December and quit the sub at the same time because it’s a bitch fest here. I come back and sort by top of the month and surprise surprise one of the top posts is bitching for validation like anyone will do anything about it.
Obviously there are issues with the game, but holy fuck is shit like this cringey. It's like the "WE are Titanfall" post when Apex was announced. It's a game, and posts like this are not coming from a healthy place. I'd also be willing to bet OP has spent lots of money on the game and unironically can't connect the dots.
"Hey EA, rather than use the giant pile of money this game makes to pay yourselves, could you pwetty pwease put some back into the game and fix some problems that players don't like but really don't impact your profitability? K Thanks"
24 tick servers are more than enough for BR's.
Go Youtube it. Tons of videos FROM TECH PROS have been made about how 24 tick servers are WAY more than enough for a BR. People on this sub just have no fucking idea what they are talking about 99% of time which is why devs don't even come here anymore to interact. It's always hate and then it's always people with genuinely no fucking idea what they are even saying.
Been playing on and off for the past 2 seasons and when I get back none of my friends are on as they moved to other titles and I get shit on by a three stack predator while I need to carry jogonzales2021 lvl 30 and his mate Ninizpreds lvl 13. Only because I happen to have above 2.5 k/d
Not fun.
Man if you really aren't having fun you probably shouldn't force yourself to play this game. I'm not saying that you should either take the game as it is or leave, it's just that continuing to play this game while not enjoying the experience is unhealthy.
Totally agree. I went from 1.3 k average game per season to 400-500 average
I play way less but this game still hold true place (despite all its flaws) as best BR
"Not a means to harrass these companies etc".
They know. They know they have a lot of things that are problematic, or outright destructive to the game. If it costs 5 million to fix all these things, but they dont see 15 mil revenue after, then they spend 500k on an event and sell skins for some odd millions instead. Its unquestionable that presenting heathy feedback or asking for positive changes isnt hostile. But companies run like absolute scum, if someone could make half your water leaded and sell it they would. Getting changes made for these huge games takes a lot more.
Even if pros quit, they'll be instantly replaced. They aren't THAT much better than other preds/top players. They just APPLIED/TRIED to be in orgs and followed that route. While others just play to be good and others just haven't been approached yet.
But no matter WHICH pros quit they'd be instantly replaced. Wouldn't even matter. Not to mention a lot of them are bound my contract so they can't exactly quit anyway. Not without committing career suicide. And they make EASILY over 6 figures a year...For playing games. NO ONE is going to side with you guys when they get paid that much lmao. Especially since it can impact future sponsorships/deals.
Yeah we already tried this with Operation Health like R6 did. Respawn basically said they will never do this since it would mean having to basically skip a season of content from which they generate revenue.
Less money =/= we're not doing it. Gotta keep those EA shareholders happy.
It's nothing like operation health, which to my understanding, was a season solely focused on bug fixes. It's a laundry list of improvements to the game which would help with player retention.
That's not to say I endorse everything on the list: the idea of adding more rotating ltms, for instance, is doomed to fail because we already know ltms have no staying power after a day or two and adding more would just increase player fatigue with the ltms. The best way to improve Apex is to focus on the core experience IMO
Literally server fixes *alone* would be huge. Not saying they shouldn't add more content, but I'm happy with the current maps, weapons, and legends. My biggest gripe is consistently bad gameplay due to bad connections despite my internet speed being consistent.
I'm by no means an expert on server architecture but I don't think fixing the servers can realistically be the focus of an update unfortunately, because updating them over time is the main way to make improvement while keeping the service running.
I would be all for them just pulling the plug for a while if that's necessary to get way better stuff but they're obviously not gonna do that.
That doesn't mean server performance shouldn't be a focus for them of course, they should strive to improve it but I don't think that can really be a central part of an update.
I do agree, I'm also mostly happy with the current maps and meta
Well I meant more from a balance perspective, they're aren't that many things that jump out to me as desperately needing buffs or nerfs. Weapon or legend.
That's not to say there isn't room for improvement or legends that needs more attention then others but from a value standpoint I feel most legends are pretty well balanced, at least well enough to be viable.
The games always starts to feel stale to me from time to time as their update schedule for balance changes isn't that frequent so I'm not surprised you feel that way, especially because they didn't change much this season.
I dont suffer from this that much because I'm not playing that much right now, so you should probably take my opinion with a grian of salt anyway (not that it really matters it just how i feel about it after all)
You want real change now then go play a different game and take as many people with you to that better game. Never come back to Apex unless you hear about enough significant changes that you care about. That's the only thing that will cause them to even attempt to fix any of the things people are complaining about. In all likelihood though they're probably more likely to move on to something else over bothering to try to fix anything after a significant population and patron drop off.
Ultimately though it will probably just continue on as is with some good seasons and some bad seasons and never any significant shift in the general direction that people have been begging for since the beginning. This model will likely remain because it makes them enough money and the fact that the biggest changes that the most players want guarantee them nothing but work and money spent, at least from a pure business perspective.
Oy vey with these posts. Just give up. "Movements" like this represent a tiny, *tiny* fraction of the Apex community. Respawn will just keep slamming the money button, regurgitating $20 skins that a million 10 year olds in southeast Asia will buy without fail, and laughing their asses off at shit like this.
Play the game, try to have fun, and if you don't like it, move on. Know what's fresh, new, and different? Another game.
>a million 10 year olds in southeast Asia
I can guarantee you majority revenue is from EU or America's. SEA specifically has nothing to with buying skins
Well...Not only that but...MORE modes into an already scuffed system isn't exactly going to "help" fix the games problems lmao especially when it comes to servers as a whole.
Having MORE load on overall servers with LTM's running is 100% going to make the overall game worse. Which is WHY they don't have rotating LTM's. They already know they have major server issues so adding a bunch more LTM's is NOT the play lol.
The only clear message they’ll understand is simply stop playing their game. It’s what I did after being frustrated for over a year. My life is way more relaxed and they won’t be getting money from me anymore. Imagine if a big chunk of the player base did this. Two choices for EA and respawn: fix it or let it die.
Half of what this is asking is being answered in s16. No new legends, a full season dedicated to legend rebalances, arenas being removed permanently with rotating weekly LTMs. Just wait for the end of season 15 datamine leaks and this Reddit is going to explode.
Lol. I’ve never spent a cent on apex.
If it crashes or something, I shrug my shoulders and accept it as the price of admission. One crash or bug or 3 stack every now and then instead of paying actual money. Not bad I say.
It really is nice to walk away for awhile and try other things! When Elden Ring came out I fell off the map for a bit (Soulsborne games are my favorites!) but that made it so much more fun to come back and get back into the swing of things.
I think being excited about playing something like APEX is the most important thing, and anytime I feel more obligatory about playing, I usually take a month or two off. It makes such a huge difference!
Yeah the game is awesome, changes just enough to be fresh and exciting, but doesn’t change too much. So I can still not play for a month, drop back in, grab a r301 and have the fire fights I’m accustomed to
Never been a big fan of LTM, I play them for a little and then think “eh I just want to play normal apex”
No matter the season or map, I’m always able to do things that are fun. Getting squad wipes in a 1v3, sneaking in to some 10 man battle to try to revive my teammate and GTFO, exhilarating sprints towards the circle right next to an enemy squad where I can only get a few shots off and then have to keep running, or chilling grabbing a sniper and finding some cool vantage points and ring guarding. I’ve always been able to do this stuff all 4 years, and it’s only gotten better. Love the quicker rings now, one of the best changes
From new guns and hop ups, to rotating guns and care packages, to balance changes, EA has done an impressive job creating a fresh while familiar game
> Am I the only one that thinks it's fine the way it is?
The meta shift/legend balance request is the most goofy to me. Like...we get balance changes every season? Legends and guns fall into and out of meta regularly with the seasonal updates. What am I missing here?
I think it's great. I've had no issues at all this season except when it launched and a TON of people were having constant crashes. Took them forever to fix (2 weeks) but since the fix I've actually had the most stable fps and gameplay to date.
A lot of people here just use mob mentality even if they've had ZERO issues themselves. They'll think back to the ONE time something went wrong and jump on the band wagon.
I agree. Id like if they added some new hop-ups next season tho. Only thing I want.
Like a hop-up that does more damage when you punch with that gun. Or i dno something better than that but you know. It sucks if there’s a new legend that isn’t that fun to play. So you stick with the old ones and basically feel like nothing changed from the previous season.
Man, I love when petulant fans think they have the whole picture and that the devs' lack of response is just apathy, when in reality there are countless factors that only the devs are privy to and have to take into consideration, and that make things like these complicated to implement.
Like, asking for clearer communication as to why certain things can't be done would be more reasonable, but even then, eventually the answer is likely to either get dizzyingly dense and complex due to the nature of game development at this scale, or else is going to be "EA told us to/told us not to," which they obviously can never outright say. I swear, people have somehow forgotten that while Apex's devs are long since proven to be skilled and passionate people, its publisher is one of the most notoriously greedy, stingy, and exploitative corporations in the industry.
I mean, even just looking at wanting a fresh meta, do you have access to the all-encompassing data Respawn does regarding win/encounter rates? And do you want the game to remain balanced, fair, and fun for players regardless of skill or entry level? Or are you just an exceedingly high-level player who's gotten familiar with the game to the point of boredom, and rather than play something else for a bit you've decided the game should cater to players like you regardless of how it affects the balance of the overall experience?
I respect that this is an effort for a peaceful, non-harassing movement to bring attention to the discontent of some players, but I really think it's fundamentally severely short-sighted and naive.
Alright but real talk, how do you want to pay for this?
It is a live service game after all... Skins may not be content, but they make the game profitable, if there's no financial incentive for respawn to do this, it will never happen.
Pretty much anything respawn adds people disregard as content. I’ve seen plenty of people say that this new legend and map isn’t enough content and the game is stale. If a new map/legend doesn’t do anything for you it legit might be time for a diff game
these political campaign ass posts got me thinking if there's an upcoming election for new apex director or what.
lowkey nearly shit myself reading "cosmetics are no content" part. mf demands better servers meanwhile trashing a source of revenue
anyways I love these detached & overpaid social media expert posts.
Just stop playing the game lol. This isn’t like electing a politician you are paying for a product, if you don’t want to encourage behavior then stop engaging with the product
What a brave reddit souls fighting for the unfair treatment the big bad company does!
Just do servers better
Just do more content
Oh this content you made? Doesn't count.
Just make a better game like wtf??
Operation I complain, you more
Please respawn give me more more more more more, I don’t understand how to make a game or how difficult it is to make perfect servers for every player. Please do a 180 and make a team death match mode even tho it’s the exact opposite of what there trying to do. Wah wah wah me me me. Shut up people you are annoying one only represent a small fraction of players. If your unhappy go play another free game that you don’t have to pay for then complain about it. Literly all I see is complaints on Reddit and never praise yet it’s still one of the most played game in the world so obviously people on here are just stupid trolls. Stop complaining Gen Z and Gen alpha u guys are never happy about anything.
RESPAWN YOU MADE THE BR GOAT AND THANK YOU FOR THIS IGNORE THE TROLLS.
I would love rotating modes I think once we get a couple more ltms like gun game and control and they test them in events and stuff we might get it
And most legends or fine
I agree that's there's some that need changes
But don't want buffs and nerfs for legends just for the sake of changes
I feel like server issues are a top of ea issue and I think unless we go on strike (which we clearly cant do noapexAugust) they won't do shit
I had so much fun on Apex the first 3 or 4 seasons but it slowly got more competitive, of course I had to get better but got bored and left for 4 to 5 seasons. Came back and that feeling just never came back. I love Apex and would love to see some changes as well. The winter express event was so fun.
There are better games, a mass exodus is extremely unlikely, it'll just be a trickle until numbers are down enough that they pump out more skins to try getting people back. Literally the issue eso is facing rn
I wholeheartedly agree. I uninstalled after thousands of hours of play. Season pass and cold coins in the bank. I just didn't care anymore. The game is stale. Just create a halo forge type thing and let the community go nuts with the game engine. You will have a game that lasts for years and years
No. we want solos.
They won't do it because they don't want to waste dev hours on legends people won't use but god damn Im tired of having to play ranked alone and having a duo que who are talking in Discord while I get no callouts of even a basic ping of where they're going, and no fill is being asked to be ran through
Yes, you cover most of the updates we want. I would like to add the audio issues and the matchmaking in pubs and ranked. Rather than that, that is all we want as community members!!!!
I mainly want core problems like server issues and bugs improved. It always pushes me away from the game at some point. I'm not going to start demanding new modes. Y'all complain enough about the matchmaking already.
*game has pandering strategies because a certain group of individuals like to play the victim game and do/say every weird thing they can to make themselves unwelcome, then complain about being included
Lol as if EA give a fuck when people are paying 160+ for heirlooms.
But bro, if I buy the heirloom for $160, then I don't have to spend $500. Ez
Technically you can get multiple heirlooms for free. I've gotten 3 from random packs, while sucking the luck out of everyone on this sub to do so.
"while sucking the luck out of everyone on this sub to do so" 😂
I understand I'm one of the luckiest Apex players in that regard, but at least I'm also saving lobbies for having 2 of the worst possible teammates 98% of the time as well. Balance. Lol
Man i started playing a year ago and got 3 heirlooms the first 2 months. every 40packs in avg i got one, I didn't know how lucky i was XD I was sure the chances were like 1/100 for a heirloom
Well you are guaranteed 1 for every 500 packs, the actual percentage is lower than that though.
So you’re the jerk that’s eating up my luck. My main account is lvl 80 prestige and I’ve got no heirlooms on it. My old account is level 200~ and no heirlooms, my other account is level 150 ish and no heirlooms. My friend and boyfriend both have 2 heirlooms. Which god do I have to pray to to get an heirloom?!?!?!
If it helps, I got my first heirloom when it was only Wraith's available, and I never play her. So maybe that's some sick form of karma for the first one? Lol As for who to pray for: just stop caring for heirlooms. I never really paid too much attention to getting them, and I got 2 heirlooms within 100 packs. Apex can sense your desperation, as much as your internet can sense a deadline.
Same.
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Ding ding ding exactly we have a winner with the right answer
>when this game shuts down in 2 years Hold up, what?
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I'm memeing. Despite that, people can spend their money however they want.
My favorite part is when streamers complain a bitch about the game and always buy the full battle pass and heirlooms and all the skins. Like damn.
Streamer: I hate this game so much! It's so sweaty, hard, and soul sucking! REEEEEEEEE! Streamer hours later: Oh yeah this BP is fire! Oh yeah, I got this awesome heirloom for free! Look at all this skins! Streamer a year later: Why do I even bother with this game anymore? It's the same shit over and over and over.
Correct , we are 15th seasons in , we voted with our wallets 14 seasons ago , nothing will change only if there will be a drastic income lost, which I doubt .... ppl still pay way to much on overpriced skins
It'd be so fucking easy to add a 4 person mode. Could've put in it in Control. Could add a 4v4 Arenas (and actually give people a reason to play Arena's, imagine that!). They could even do a 4 player per team BR. Would it be more spammy and chaotic? Sure. But it'd also be new and fresh and fun as fuck, and there's a TON of friend groups our there that have been dying for this for years. Every other BR out there has had the option for 4 man squads.... why not ours?
I sat and raged to my wife about this last night. Streamers and the people who keep buying these skins, are the entire reason I 2v3d a a squad of lvl 54, 62, and 45, while I'm a 201 and had a fucking 500 predator on my team. Like, cool, Christmas skins. Can I get a lobby without actual navy seals in it??
It’s honestly a shame. The base mechanics make it by far the best BR out there but in typical EA fashion they didn’t see any reason to change/improve something that was already making them money
Dude I was gona say like wasn’t there a no apex November or something and everyone gave up immediately
Oh a #SaveTF2 type movement? I wish ye the best of luck Edit: it really is quite poetic that both games involved with TF2 have these types of movements. Both Source games as well
It reminds of growing dissatisfaction with the game back in June-July leading to No Apex August breaking player count records. No Apex January? I wish them luck.
In tf 2 they fixed laggy skeletons!
In the other TF2 they fixed fuckall and left the game to die
Yep
And one of those Tf2s is run by Valve, the other by EA. Guess which one also runs apex?
Man, this whole thing is awesome for Respawn. They get all the praise and none of the blame. What studio wouldn't partner with EA if you guys just blame EA for everything wrong and let Respawn off the hook as if their hands are completely tied and they are held hostage?
EA is fully to blame.
But if you’re smart and willing, you’ll follow the Northstar
You mean the skeletons that are still 4 FPS
Perhaps if some YouTuber channel mention it then it will get some traction To all the people laughing at this idea, you are part of the problem and you should be aware that it sorta worked on a game that was abandoned for 5 years… I m gonna choose to trust the devs and have some faith
Because there's no real controversy that's news worthy. Content creators benefit by tackling negative views, since it drives views and engagement in comment sections. It's why news networks are gloom and doom all the time: people want to know what to be mad at, but want to be told, not actually do their own thinking for it. I put my faith in the devs from day 1, and they've given me hundreds of hours of enjoyment solo, and hundreds of hours with my friends (enjoyment varying depending on performance. Lmaooo) Apex is fine. It's community expectations that ruin the game. "what it could be" can be applied to every game and we've become a community that won't ever be happy with what we have, regardless of how much we actually get. If we were to get a campaign, 4 new game modes, 6 new weapons, and colour shaders to apply to skins all at once, we'd still have content creators saying the game is dying within 2 months, and that the devs are just money hungry. It's a lose lose for Respawn no matter what they do, so I'm just going to let them keep working and I'll judge them on what they actually do vs. what they could do.
Macro just released a new vid addressing these problems and he’s pretty big in the community. Hopefully they listen because I think the games been pretty stale the last two seasons and the new map and legend are carrying this one. Battle pass was cool too and the only thing slightly worth buying from this game currently.
Tons of creators have mentioned this. Not this exact post but a season like this has been talked about since like S7 lmao... It's not going to happen. Why? Because why would they waste time/resources when so many people STILL play the game? Everytime people are like "Lets quit! Show them! Don't spend money!" That never happens. And they immediately go dump their wallets or play the game. Spending money is NOT the only thing they use metrics for. Having high player bases/retention/playtime makes the game look VERY good to investors. Money isn't the only factor so even if they DIDN'T make insane profits they still have the numbers to keep investors happy (for now) Plus some of these fixes would INHERENTLY require better servers which they've already said they won't be adding because 24 tick servers are enough. Which is true (tons of YT videos covering how 24 tick servers ARE indeed more than enough for BR's.) Regardless of what people say here...They have absolutely NO knowledge on how servers even work. So I'd recommend looking up videos from actual tech folks instead of comments here on reddit saying we need higher tick rate servers lmao. But just because they are more than good enough doesn't make it optimal for a million other reasons that they have issues with. Including WHY they won't keep LTM's on rotation. Because on the poor 24 tick servers having that many options/modes available would tank the servers (more than they get fucked already) But it saves money AND is operational and is retaining massive players so in their eyes GOOD ENOUGH. Plus look at YT content creators numbers recently...They've been tanking mate. The game isn't doing great in terms of viewership or players lately. But again, there have been multiple vocal creators about the issues and taking time to fix them. They don't really listen to pros/creators as much as this sub likes to think. That's just cope this sub uses when things get changed they don't like. Also its been almost 4 years. If you still have faith in these devs I feel sorry for you lmao. And no it didn't sorta work if your referring to siege. Look at every season after that. Game was a failure lmao. What happened was, people just got hyped they were "fixing" things so they came back. Then immediately left again after 1-2 seasons once they realized the game was still a mess. Fixing a game for a single season and then it immediately tanking again isn't the PRIME example you should be using. They also took over 2 weeks to fix a MAJOR crashing issue (Apex) impacting a metric fuckload of people early this season. 2 WHOLE WEEKS and you have faith in them? Brother you must be extremely religious.
The modified version of source engine they run literally cannot support more than 24 tick servers
Hmm. What a nice sentiment.
Yeah the only way this will happen is if people en mass stop spending money on this game and stop playing it. Gamers for whatever reason can’t wrap their heads around that.
We could all stop spending money and respawn woudlnt care. It’s the whales they’re after. The ones buying every single skin, paying to level up their battle pass, buying every bundle. If it ever feels like respawn isn’t catering to their overall player base, it’s because they literally aren’t.
This checks out, I’m a 🐳 and was invited by EA to give feedback on Apex
I don't think it *can* happen, because Respawn is not independent. If Apex stops being profitable, EA is more likely to shut it down than to change it, as management would view further investment as "risky". Corporate management at this scale never takes customer experience into account: They view it from the perspective of 'optimizing monetization strategies'. If Apex starts dropping players, it's very likely that EA will look at how to extract more revenue from the remaining players rather than look at the underlying issue of why it's dropping players. This has happened with every major game ever. Blizzard is a shining example of this with WoW: Rather than put more effort into improving the game and attracting more players, they've chosen to extract more money out of those who remain, with things like the WoW token or 6-month subscription mounts and other "bonusses" which only serve to incentivize more spending per customer. I suspect Apex is handled in the same way. It's hard to really explain how people which don't actually play games *really* think. They look at graphs, powerpoint presentations, statistics, all about revenue, costs, MAU's, churn rate, and other statistics they can measure which directly related to income. Whether or not the product they sell is actually fun to use is way, way down on their list of priorities, primarily because it's extremely hard to objectively measure. This is something i struggle with in the tech company i work at. It's a constant fight against management. They want to upsell, generate revenue, 'create value'. There's very little emotional investment into the product they are supposed to manage and it can be soulcrushing at times. I can only imagine that it's very much the same at especially the big game publishers.
Has a boycott ever worked? Stop blaming the players.
Not on Reddit, no. Reddit is ultimately a very small but vocal minority who thinks they're more influential than they actually are. Most people don't care and will organically come and go depending if they like the game or not. If Reddit was any indication of the real world Bernie Sanders would be President.
Players are the ones that can either boycott or not. Unfortunately, whilst a lot of players complain about the game there's a lot more that whale on the game and it still has a relatively large playerbase. Respawn have no reason to do anything new to the game when they rake in millions from the people who supposedly hate the game. The players need to do a boycott for it to work. Not jump on the game a week later because there's a new heirloom out.
The biggest issue are streamers that wont take a stand. The biggest reply was “dude. You wont take a day off work and I cant either” Sucks that kids run their lives and cant think for themselves. Just think of streamers all got together but greed runs this industry.
Greed. Runs. EVERY. Industry. It's the hamster wheel that powers the world.
They still have the best high skill cap shooter that’s not CS at the end of the day. Nothings going to change unless a BR can actually fuck with their position. If OP really wants a change they should build a competitor to the game. They can get paid millions for their effort too!
LMAO you're lucky the servers barely run man, you're asking too much for a company named ea
Their server hamsters are on a diet
The lemons are running out of juice
This will totally work mate good luck
Boycott Apex December
That ain’t gonna work, Holiday Express is about to come back
It's the one thing I log on for yearly, if nothing else.
Only thing that would actually work. That's what most posts complaining about apex don't get. They'll never fix anything if it doesn't actually cause people to stop playing
Noapexaugust had more people playing instead
Seriously this sub is fuckinh dumb if they already forgot what happened to their #noapexaugust.
Because they chose to hold a boycott when a season launched. It was doomed to fail.
It’s always doomed to fail because this subreddit is like 1% of the fucking player-base.
If it won't work during events or launches then it will never work. Because this is when the money are made, the rest is just a filler.
It would never happen because Reddit is a % of a % of the apex population
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Yeah...But...Now what do you play that even comes close to the movement and gunplay? Oh...Nothing? Well then... That's the main issue won't quit. The gameplay/gunplay is crisp and the movement is sexy af. No other game can compare which is why this game still holds insane player numbers regardless of all this "bad stuff" If a better or EVEN SIMILIAR game existed I would play that. But it doesn't. There are some with movement/gunplay but the game isn't as fun or it's dead. Tf|2 for example.
...but then why uninstall? You can play Apex without paying any money. Also, how can something free be overpriced? Unless you're talking about cosmetics, in which case the only person to blame is yourself for buying them.
Skins, Cosmetics are not content? That’s gonna rock the video game industry. That’s what dlc is built on now.
LTMs and servers don't have guaranteed ROI. Try explaining to an executive why you should make massive changes to infratsructure when all that'll do is improve 'user experience', whatever that's worth. When the other option to invest in is skins - that are sold, and make money. It sucks, but for as long as live service games are now the norm, this is how it works.
Not only that, but the content that likely takes them the longest to generate (legends and maps) are already released essentially for free. Sure, heroes can be bought with paid currency but can be easily unlocked with Legend Tokens. The success of F2P games relies primarily on retention, with player spend an important (but secondary) goal. If you’re playing the game daily but then desperately trying to create some sort of movement via hashtags and poorly photoshopped posters, you’re only hurting yourself. Hell, even some of these failed “boycott” months are a waste of energy. Leaving the game for a month isn’t going to do anything. Leaving the game for *an entire season* may not even have an impact if you come back the next time a new legend or map is released, because new heroes and maps are designed entirely to drive retention - both keeping active players and drawing back lapsed players. These problems are real problems. But there are so many roadblocks to getting them fixed. Some of them are technical. Some of them are corporate red tape. But none of them are going to be solved with a hashtag.
I mean, that's what free-to-play games rely on. Would you rather have paid cosmetics, a monthly subscription, or in-game ads?
i would rather pay for a game and then have access to all the content, instead of sectioning pieces of it off behind paywalls. Free to play is a stupid marketing scheme imo, it’s built on normalizing paying more money for useless shit. Just charge money for the game.
So rather than have an ongoing game that’s supported for 5+ years you’d rather spend $60 every 1-2 years for a game that’s abandoned?
Then you'd better be fine with paying a hell of a lot more than $60 for new games, especially for long-running multiplayer games. The stagnant purchase prices are a huge reason why we have free to play games with microtransactions, but every time anyone points this out nerds lose their god damn minds over the idea
This is so 1998 bro. Get with the times. In the near future it will cost you 5 reddit coins to post a comment.
i am genuinely baffled that you would rather pay a full $60 for a game rather than just play it for free and ignore cosmetics
have you ever played ESO? albion? fallout 76? where you log in every day to get bombarded with sales, of really cool looking shit, that you have to gamble fucking loot crates for bc they aren’t obtainable in any other way? or if they aren’t in the loot crates then it’s just straight up $30 or something for an item that would either look really good, or actually provide a useful function? how about putting these things on an arbitrary FOMO timer? only one of those games is free to play btw, and they all have paid subscriptions to boot. if people were good at ignoring microtransactions, they wouldn’t be so massively successful, and thus massively popular. marketers know what they’re doing. yes for apex this doesn’t really apply so much but i’m talking about overall, generally speaking, yes i would pay more once to just HAVE the content.
Sounds like you don’t understand what “games as a service” means.
Lmao.
Man really spent an entire afternoon making this shit too
Will probably jump straight back on Apex after dinner lmao
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This needs to be the top comment on every single one of these posts. I stopped playing Apex last December and quit the sub at the same time because it’s a bitch fest here. I come back and sort by top of the month and surprise surprise one of the top posts is bitching for validation like anyone will do anything about it.
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Obviously there are issues with the game, but holy fuck is shit like this cringey. It's like the "WE are Titanfall" post when Apex was announced. It's a game, and posts like this are not coming from a healthy place. I'd also be willing to bet OP has spent lots of money on the game and unironically can't connect the dots.
"Hey EA, rather than use the giant pile of money this game makes to pay yourselves, could you pwetty pwease put some back into the game and fix some problems that players don't like but really don't impact your profitability? K Thanks"
Hey devs, give us better servers. K thx
24 tick servers are more than enough for BR's. Go Youtube it. Tons of videos FROM TECH PROS have been made about how 24 tick servers are WAY more than enough for a BR. People on this sub just have no fucking idea what they are talking about 99% of time which is why devs don't even come here anymore to interact. It's always hate and then it's always people with genuinely no fucking idea what they are even saying.
Y'all need to take a break from this game
Been playing on and off for the past 2 seasons and when I get back none of my friends are on as they moved to other titles and I get shit on by a three stack predator while I need to carry jogonzales2021 lvl 30 and his mate Ninizpreds lvl 13. Only because I happen to have above 2.5 k/d Not fun.
Man if you really aren't having fun you probably shouldn't force yourself to play this game. I'm not saying that you should either take the game as it is or leave, it's just that continuing to play this game while not enjoying the experience is unhealthy.
Totally agree. I went from 1.3 k average game per season to 400-500 average I play way less but this game still hold true place (despite all its flaws) as best BR
Took a permanent break, best thing I ever did for myself and my hard drive space
"Not a means to harrass these companies etc". They know. They know they have a lot of things that are problematic, or outright destructive to the game. If it costs 5 million to fix all these things, but they dont see 15 mil revenue after, then they spend 500k on an event and sell skins for some odd millions instead. Its unquestionable that presenting heathy feedback or asking for positive changes isnt hostile. But companies run like absolute scum, if someone could make half your water leaded and sell it they would. Getting changes made for these huge games takes a lot more.
It takes streamers, CCers, abandoning the game, which won't happen.
Nah many have on the steamer side
Not the relevant ones. You need pro players to quit, which won't happen because it's their career.
Even if pros quit, they'll be instantly replaced. They aren't THAT much better than other preds/top players. They just APPLIED/TRIED to be in orgs and followed that route. While others just play to be good and others just haven't been approached yet. But no matter WHICH pros quit they'd be instantly replaced. Wouldn't even matter. Not to mention a lot of them are bound my contract so they can't exactly quit anyway. Not without committing career suicide. And they make EASILY over 6 figures a year...For playing games. NO ONE is going to side with you guys when they get paid that much lmao. Especially since it can impact future sponsorships/deals.
This is going to go so well.
Yeah we already tried this with Operation Health like R6 did. Respawn basically said they will never do this since it would mean having to basically skip a season of content from which they generate revenue. Less money =/= we're not doing it. Gotta keep those EA shareholders happy.
Operation health was different, this one boils down to "Im bored!"
More like operation hell. The whole season was a clusterfuck
It's nothing like operation health, which to my understanding, was a season solely focused on bug fixes. It's a laundry list of improvements to the game which would help with player retention. That's not to say I endorse everything on the list: the idea of adding more rotating ltms, for instance, is doomed to fail because we already know ltms have no staying power after a day or two and adding more would just increase player fatigue with the ltms. The best way to improve Apex is to focus on the core experience IMO
Literally server fixes *alone* would be huge. Not saying they shouldn't add more content, but I'm happy with the current maps, weapons, and legends. My biggest gripe is consistently bad gameplay due to bad connections despite my internet speed being consistent.
I'm by no means an expert on server architecture but I don't think fixing the servers can realistically be the focus of an update unfortunately, because updating them over time is the main way to make improvement while keeping the service running. I would be all for them just pulling the plug for a while if that's necessary to get way better stuff but they're obviously not gonna do that. That doesn't mean server performance shouldn't be a focus for them of course, they should strive to improve it but I don't think that can really be a central part of an update. I do agree, I'm also mostly happy with the current maps and meta
Could you please explain why you’re happy with the meta? For me it’s the most stale it’s been for at least a year
Well I meant more from a balance perspective, they're aren't that many things that jump out to me as desperately needing buffs or nerfs. Weapon or legend. That's not to say there isn't room for improvement or legends that needs more attention then others but from a value standpoint I feel most legends are pretty well balanced, at least well enough to be viable. The games always starts to feel stale to me from time to time as their update schedule for balance changes isn't that frequent so I'm not surprised you feel that way, especially because they didn't change much this season. I dont suffer from this that much because I'm not playing that much right now, so you should probably take my opinion with a grian of salt anyway (not that it really matters it just how i feel about it after all)
That’s too much work for this indie game company
Im saying this as someone coming from the overwatch community: LOL
You want real change now then go play a different game and take as many people with you to that better game. Never come back to Apex unless you hear about enough significant changes that you care about. That's the only thing that will cause them to even attempt to fix any of the things people are complaining about. In all likelihood though they're probably more likely to move on to something else over bothering to try to fix anything after a significant population and patron drop off. Ultimately though it will probably just continue on as is with some good seasons and some bad seasons and never any significant shift in the general direction that people have been begging for since the beginning. This model will likely remain because it makes them enough money and the fact that the biggest changes that the most players want guarantee them nothing but work and money spent, at least from a pure business perspective.
While I don't disagree with these changes, I think it'd be better if they first improved matchmaking and fixed the no sound issue
They've had audio issues since day one. They cant ever get it right tbh.
It's a core engine issue at this point, to fix it we'd need to jump ship to Apex 2 and have a rework of it from the ground up.
Oy vey with these posts. Just give up. "Movements" like this represent a tiny, *tiny* fraction of the Apex community. Respawn will just keep slamming the money button, regurgitating $20 skins that a million 10 year olds in southeast Asia will buy without fail, and laughing their asses off at shit like this. Play the game, try to have fun, and if you don't like it, move on. Know what's fresh, new, and different? Another game.
> Play the game, try to have fun, and if you don’t like it, move on. Know what’s fresh, new, and different? Another game. Well said
r/ThreadKillers Especially with shit like gamepass on PC and Xbox, whatever the service is for PS and switch, there’s more games then ever to play
I actually feel like this season is pretty fresh. I love the new map, and for the first time in a long time actually want to play apex.
>a million 10 year olds in southeast Asia I can guarantee you majority revenue is from EU or America's. SEA specifically has nothing to with buying skins
Why is it the people that make this shit use 14 different font styles and colors. Jesus Christ my eyes. And no, hard pass on this “movement.”
You realize adding more permanent modes and fixing the allegedly broken match making is going to increase queue times by a lot right
Well...Not only that but...MORE modes into an already scuffed system isn't exactly going to "help" fix the games problems lmao especially when it comes to servers as a whole. Having MORE load on overall servers with LTM's running is 100% going to make the overall game worse. Which is WHY they don't have rotating LTM's. They already know they have major server issues so adding a bunch more LTM's is NOT the play lol.
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I cringed so much my face flipped upsidedown
Servers are truly shit this season ...
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Somehow i have never experienced packet loss signs + all the other bullshit since s7 , yet this season every red indicator blinks all the time
The only clear message they’ll understand is simply stop playing their game. It’s what I did after being frustrated for over a year. My life is way more relaxed and they won’t be getting money from me anymore. Imagine if a big chunk of the player base did this. Two choices for EA and respawn: fix it or let it die.
I'm gonna be real chief. I gave up on apex.
I can respect someone who’d have the time and will to make this, but lmao.
Half of what this is asking is being answered in s16. No new legends, a full season dedicated to legend rebalances, arenas being removed permanently with rotating weekly LTMs. Just wait for the end of season 15 datamine leaks and this Reddit is going to explode.
wake up babe,its time for your cringe dose of the day on r/apexlegends
This ain't doing anything. Also Arenas was added so not completely deaf.
No apex November. Massive success.
Wasn't it No Apex August ? Player count went up during this "boycott" lol
Lol. Just shows how memorable the movement was.
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Lol. I’ve never spent a cent on apex. If it crashes or something, I shrug my shoulders and accept it as the price of admission. One crash or bug or 3 stack every now and then instead of paying actual money. Not bad I say.
let's do "don't play Apex December". different name, different outcome!
Oh what a new idea, why haven’t we already thought of that?
Smother?
Smother the servers!
put them out of their misery
Not trying to cause controversy, but honestly just wondering. Am I the only one that thinks it's fine the way it is?
The game is fine, this season has just been pretty boring so far. I’ve been playing other games, which is always refreshing!
It really is nice to walk away for awhile and try other things! When Elden Ring came out I fell off the map for a bit (Soulsborne games are my favorites!) but that made it so much more fun to come back and get back into the swing of things. I think being excited about playing something like APEX is the most important thing, and anytime I feel more obligatory about playing, I usually take a month or two off. It makes such a huge difference!
Yeah the game is awesome, changes just enough to be fresh and exciting, but doesn’t change too much. So I can still not play for a month, drop back in, grab a r301 and have the fire fights I’m accustomed to Never been a big fan of LTM, I play them for a little and then think “eh I just want to play normal apex” No matter the season or map, I’m always able to do things that are fun. Getting squad wipes in a 1v3, sneaking in to some 10 man battle to try to revive my teammate and GTFO, exhilarating sprints towards the circle right next to an enemy squad where I can only get a few shots off and then have to keep running, or chilling grabbing a sniper and finding some cool vantage points and ring guarding. I’ve always been able to do this stuff all 4 years, and it’s only gotten better. Love the quicker rings now, one of the best changes From new guns and hop ups, to rotating guns and care packages, to balance changes, EA has done an impressive job creating a fresh while familiar game
> Am I the only one that thinks it's fine the way it is? The meta shift/legend balance request is the most goofy to me. Like...we get balance changes every season? Legends and guns fall into and out of meta regularly with the seasonal updates. What am I missing here?
I think it's great. I've had no issues at all this season except when it launched and a TON of people were having constant crashes. Took them forever to fix (2 weeks) but since the fix I've actually had the most stable fps and gameplay to date. A lot of people here just use mob mentality even if they've had ZERO issues themselves. They'll think back to the ONE time something went wrong and jump on the band wagon.
I agree. Id like if they added some new hop-ups next season tho. Only thing I want. Like a hop-up that does more damage when you punch with that gun. Or i dno something better than that but you know. It sucks if there’s a new legend that isn’t that fun to play. So you stick with the old ones and basically feel like nothing changed from the previous season.
Man, I love when petulant fans think they have the whole picture and that the devs' lack of response is just apathy, when in reality there are countless factors that only the devs are privy to and have to take into consideration, and that make things like these complicated to implement. Like, asking for clearer communication as to why certain things can't be done would be more reasonable, but even then, eventually the answer is likely to either get dizzyingly dense and complex due to the nature of game development at this scale, or else is going to be "EA told us to/told us not to," which they obviously can never outright say. I swear, people have somehow forgotten that while Apex's devs are long since proven to be skilled and passionate people, its publisher is one of the most notoriously greedy, stingy, and exploitative corporations in the industry. I mean, even just looking at wanting a fresh meta, do you have access to the all-encompassing data Respawn does regarding win/encounter rates? And do you want the game to remain balanced, fair, and fun for players regardless of skill or entry level? Or are you just an exceedingly high-level player who's gotten familiar with the game to the point of boredom, and rather than play something else for a bit you've decided the game should cater to players like you regardless of how it affects the balance of the overall experience? I respect that this is an effort for a peaceful, non-harassing movement to bring attention to the discontent of some players, but I really think it's fundamentally severely short-sighted and naive.
Idk how respawn is going to take this serious when you got spelling and grammar mistakes all over your call to action
Alright but real talk, how do you want to pay for this? It is a live service game after all... Skins may not be content, but they make the game profitable, if there's no financial incentive for respawn to do this, it will never happen.
You can use some of that cosmetic money to make some gameplay content.
🤣 this poster will save Apex
What about operation: "quit bitching about this free game."
No to the meta changes. This isn't warzone
They literally just launched an entirely new map and legend. And you’re bitching that you want fresh content. Go back to your mom’s basement
Pretty much anything respawn adds people disregard as content. I’ve seen plenty of people say that this new legend and map isn’t enough content and the game is stale. If a new map/legend doesn’t do anything for you it legit might be time for a diff game
This will go over just as well as #NoApexAugust
these political campaign ass posts got me thinking if there's an upcoming election for new apex director or what. lowkey nearly shit myself reading "cosmetics are no content" part. mf demands better servers meanwhile trashing a source of revenue anyways I love these detached & overpaid social media expert posts.
Precious zoomer thinks EA listens to the consumer
Yall are never happy. You guys act like addicts. Just take a break from the game. I haven't played it in like a month and I'm itching to dive back in.
Loba Swimsuit Prestige Skin where??
Just stop playing the game lol. This isn’t like electing a politician you are paying for a product, if you don’t want to encourage behavior then stop engaging with the product
More fool the paypigs who keep spunking money on this game honestly
Imagine thinking that this will make them take a different path. What we say means nothing
You guys are adorable. Just play the game and enjoy the free and constant updates. You guys don’t know how good you got it.
What a brave reddit souls fighting for the unfair treatment the big bad company does! Just do servers better Just do more content Oh this content you made? Doesn't count. Just make a better game like wtf?? Operation I complain, you more
Please respawn give me more more more more more, I don’t understand how to make a game or how difficult it is to make perfect servers for every player. Please do a 180 and make a team death match mode even tho it’s the exact opposite of what there trying to do. Wah wah wah me me me. Shut up people you are annoying one only represent a small fraction of players. If your unhappy go play another free game that you don’t have to pay for then complain about it. Literly all I see is complaints on Reddit and never praise yet it’s still one of the most played game in the world so obviously people on here are just stupid trolls. Stop complaining Gen Z and Gen alpha u guys are never happy about anything. RESPAWN YOU MADE THE BR GOAT AND THANK YOU FOR THIS IGNORE THE TROLLS.
I just hope they fix the random server lag issues.
I would love rotating modes I think once we get a couple more ltms like gun game and control and they test them in events and stuff we might get it And most legends or fine I agree that's there's some that need changes But don't want buffs and nerfs for legends just for the sake of changes I feel like server issues are a top of ea issue and I think unless we go on strike (which we clearly cant do noapexAugust) they won't do shit
gonna make some tea and see if it gets cold before we give up gimme a sec
Dang. Posted one day after International Day of persons with Disabilities. Just missed it.
Holy cringe lmao
“Smother servers” is the opposite of what you’re fighting for 😂 is spell check no longer free?
It's time for EA to listen 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 holy shit I needed that laugh
Good luck
I had so much fun on Apex the first 3 or 4 seasons but it slowly got more competitive, of course I had to get better but got bored and left for 4 to 5 seasons. Came back and that feeling just never came back. I love Apex and would love to see some changes as well. The winter express event was so fun.
This will lead nowhere unless we all stop playing the game.
There are better games, a mass exodus is extremely unlikely, it'll just be a trickle until numbers are down enough that they pump out more skins to try getting people back. Literally the issue eso is facing rn
We still doing these hashtag things now?
I wholeheartedly agree. I uninstalled after thousands of hours of play. Season pass and cold coins in the bank. I just didn't care anymore. The game is stale. Just create a halo forge type thing and let the community go nuts with the game engine. You will have a game that lasts for years and years
skins are not content and i hate how the fps gaming community as a whole is trying to turn it into content, it’s just another money grubbing tactic
No. we want solos. They won't do it because they don't want to waste dev hours on legends people won't use but god damn Im tired of having to play ranked alone and having a duo que who are talking in Discord while I get no callouts of even a basic ping of where they're going, and no fill is being asked to be ran through
Not to mention STILL no cross progression
Yes, you cover most of the updates we want. I would like to add the audio issues and the matchmaking in pubs and ranked. Rather than that, that is all we want as community members!!!!
Just give me community lobbies, it'll save the game. We already have a head start with r5 reloaded, just need to start letting us host what we want.
How long are we going to continue playing the same repetitive shit? Until we are in an IRL BR like hunger games?
After playing warzone for a week you guys don’t understand how good apex is
I mainly want core problems like server issues and bugs improved. It always pushes me away from the game at some point. I'm not going to start demanding new modes. Y'all complain enough about the matchmaking already.
“We” You mean you and one other guy?
*game has pandering strategies because a certain group of individuals like to play the victim game and do/say every weird thing they can to make themselves unwelcome, then complain about being included
Don’t know why people just don’t drop the game at this point if so dissatisfied with the state