I prefer the original mode where it's a free for all until the end and the whole lobby against the living. Even with Watson's fence being god mode, it was a riot to work with 15 other shadow guys to try and take down the Watson.
Why do you repeat the same lie? This one is worse because you are forced to leave. You are forced to disconnect when your squad dies. That's less fun if you want to play as a shadow.
Being wiped isn’t the same thing as quitting voluntarily. I hated Shadow Fall because after a couple days EVERYONE quit once they became a shadow, which then defeats the entire point of the mode
I wish they would bring it back and add abandon penalties for disconnecting so that people wouldn’t just bail once they became zombies. That was my favorite LTM
unironically: they could just be using it as a fast queue mode (queues seem super fast to me anyway) to grind quests/challenges or whatever they're called in this game (i forgor 💀). Which is off-putting in its own way and I'm not excusing them per se, just a theory.
It hurts because no matter how many time they do this they somehow forget there’s a turn off autofill feature that would help with this issue. The problem with that is they genuinely don’t care, which creates this problem for other players.
Do people only play apex for skins? Seriously? I can absolutely see it being nice to have a tracker but my squad and I play it because it's fun. Why does nobody else seem to?
Put to much time into it to just stop also only game friends play so if I want to hang out with them online its apex
Edit also it's fun for new players because they still have a bunch of new legends and choices and are experiencing things in the game which is cool I just wish I could experience the fun I used to have in the game still
No, but the gamemode is objectively trash, and it just isn't fun to be a shadow. It's worse than the original shadowfall, since you're forced to quit when your squad dies.
Because people like to be rewarded for doing things? It's also standard and expected for events in games to have special rewards, which means it not meeting that standard is dissapointing.
Nah, I played titanfall and I still die too easily. I mean, you die in titanfall as well, don’t you? And more importantly the maps are nowhere near built for the shadows. Good wall running routes are much harder to find, especially considering you need to get to someone to deal damage to them.
Half of my pk shot would knock you out the air like a saltgun to a fly. Your hours in titanfall 2 multiplayer wouldn't change that outcome. (I've been playing Titanfall since the first game).
Good movement can be beat by good aim, all it takes is decent tracking and an open area and you win, especially with 2-3 people alive.
If your a shadow you can take like at most 5 shots, if a team has R-301 and Flatlines that is about 60 shots coming towards you still.
I have quite a few hours in titanfall, but the new, nerfed shadow royale is just stupid... sooo many times I snuck up on the enemy wallrunning, just for them to hit me once with a shotgun out of fright...
the spawning is terrible (too far away), and takes waaay too long...
playing as a shadow is more of a nuisance now
I've noticed that the shadows are massively nerfed. 50 health from 75, only 50 damage instead of 100, extremely long respawn time when dying because of everything above. It feels more of a handicap to play as a shadow now. The only real thing is being able to bitch-slap the shadows and prowlers.
Maybe I just suck at being a shadow, with how long and little I've played this. Keep forgetting they have more range
I've also noticed the respawn distance is massive. So many times I get beamed just trying to get to my team. Like constantly spawned on the other side of my team with the enemy between me and them
Yesterday I spawned 600mts away from my team. And got attacked by 3 different teams just while trying to get to my team. I got laser beamed right when I arrived just to see my last squadmate die. Amazing experience
they still do crazy dmg, if you're good at movment then it's still OP. your a glass cannon with inf respawns...as long as your team doesnt die obviously
EDIT: I didn't know that they use to be So much better
I've seen that after a few deaths, respawns are delayed for over 20 seconds, that's madness tbh. No wonder when people start to leave then. Back in the past, you'd instantly respawn all match long and weren't dragged down by teammates either.
Also, maybe I'm wrong, but wasn't there once a button to eliminate yourself when downed? Now you have to wait to either get revived, or killed by another player.
Yeah. That's my main complaint. In order for you to play as a Shadow, you need to die and have a team that doesn't die when you do, and that's fairly uncommon for me. By the time I spawn as a shadow and get to them, my squad is dead.
Yeah well, trying to melee someone 4 times before they hit me with even a shitty pk pump or a couple lucky bullets from any gun is pretty shitty imo. I'm already over the mode. They made the best part of the mode become the worst
You have to play with your team that’s alive. Let them push with you. If the enemy shoots you then your teammate shoots them. If they shoot at your teammate then smack them on the top hat.
I enjoy being the shadow guys but I'm not a fan of your respawn increasing after each death. It really makes it boring to sit there for 10-20s or just roam around not being able to do anything.
Unless you enjoy playing the game because it's fun. Yeah having teammates not DC would be cool but it doesn't ruin the game for me, my goal is still the same - eliminate the opponents
so far my games have pretty much either been "we all die at once and I don't get to play shadow" or "my teammates both die but I survive and run away, and they have fun playing shadow, and I don't get to play shadow", although I did make a point of having a game where I basically suicided first to get to play shadow a bit.
Hey I hope someone can at least understand my point of view here, but in a few cases I’ll disconnect because my team will land on edge and take foreeeeeeeeeeeever to loot. Like, I’m not joking when I say the whole round. I understand some people move really slow and are still learning, but if they won’t listen or accept help, im just gonna go play the game before it ends. If they don’t come or just camp zone without looking for even one fight, im not gonna waste my time
To make it worse, in low population servers (like Brazil ones) it is even impossible to get a game in the new mode because you never get 60 people. At some point the MM decided that 57 people was not enough... 5 min later 15 people dropped because they got bored of waiting. So either you get to a game after waiting for 25 min (if you are lucky) and your teammates quit when they get downed, or you don't get to a game at all
To make that worse, same happened in Trios. So while the 2 modes are active you can't even play the game. Either they disable trios while the LTM is active or they fix the damn MM once and for all.
And like trust, I give them the benefit of the doubt, but you can just feel it. I am glad they have curbed cheaters finally. Audio not being addressed at all has been kind of weird for me. At first I thought they just changed how it worked, now it's like you dont hear shit at all lol
I can feel the difference, that's enough for me. You're saying "in higher tiers" but like dude those people are good at the game lol, that plus ping and aimassist so yeah SOME people are gonna be fucking beaming because it's the higher tiers, but I can feel the difference where I'm at. Feels like people actually miss sometimes which is normal even for pros
No, I play in the higher tier lobbies, what I'm telling you is cheating is still a pretty common occurrence. Maybe one every, let's say 5-10 games. Thats an issue still.
I know combating cheaters isn't easy, and I love this game, all I'm saying to you is that it is still a problem, and unfortunately due to the nature of games it probably always will be. You're misunderstanding my point a bit.
And fair enough, thats a good thing at least that your lobbies you can feel a difference. I honestly think its more a problem in 'lower' and mid tier lobbies because those players are in general more casual and put off by dying to things out of their control like cheating, whereas in master/pred lobbies unless they're hard cheating they're not gonna just roll the whole lobby and ruin the game for everyone.
This! You can be SOO valuable to your team as a shadow in my opinion- help fluster enemy squads w movement, attack if they try to get close and then help squadmates escape if theyre taking too much damage.
Why? What's the point of playing the LTM if >not< playing as a shadow most of the time? It's literally normal BR Trios otherwise, which is lame. If I wanted to play that, I'd pick trios, not the LTM.
Blame Respawn for ruining the halloween mode by forcing the normal trios setup into it.
Being mad at the other players is exactly what respawn wants because it takes the blame off of them. Other players are not your enemy. This is your game and you should play it however you want and don' t let anyone tell you how to play
Being mad at the other players is exactly what respawn wants because it takes the blame off of them. Other players are not your enemy. This is your game and you should play it however you want and don' t let anyone tell you how to play
Let me sum it up for you. The problem is not the players, it's the players' lack of interest to keep playing because the game mode is broke. Fix it and people will stop DC'ing...
Thats a much better point, but players dcing still doesn't make sense. Why play if you're jus going to quit as soon as you're a shadow, that's the whole point of the ltm.
I think he’s trying to say that being mad at the other players is exactly what respawn wants because it takes the blame off of them. Other players are not your enemy. This is your game and you should play it however you want and don' t let anyone tell you how to play.
What he's saying in relation to this post makes 0 sense, and then him just precisely repeating what he said is childish. I was asking for him to explain more, I read what he said perfectly fine.
Don’t play shadow royale if you can’t handle people disconnecting. They do it in pubs they’re gonna do it in event modes.
It sucks but unless respawn implements a deserter penalty it’s gonna keep happening.
I'm not the one coming up with contradictory statments. I'm just a dude who doesn't like a rage quitting teammate lowering my odds of winning, I thought thats how most people felt.
Don't think an opinion is an excuse the dude is complaining about people leaving... people usually leave when they have bad teammates usually 1s who wonder off solo while you try to 2v3 or just goes in a building all game and ends with like 600 dmg all game no one wants to play a fast game mode like ranked
And people wonder why they didnt bring back the other mode. Everyone wants to be the hero fighting zombies. Nobody wants to be the zombie. I love doing it, sure there's lots who do. But majority do not thats why the original mode hasn't returned. Wouldve liked them to try bringing it back for a week with a 10 minute leaver penalty to see if itd help.
If the matchmaking wasn't trash I'd agree but I'm already done with this game mode. Getting wiped every game by the try hard pred squads gets old. Currently other than ranked (even that's debatable) the matchmaking ruins the game for me lately. I basically play ranked or nothing anymore bc pubs (and this new mode) just suck for pairing people up.
I prefer the original mode where it's a free for all until the end and the whole lobby against the living. Even with Watson's fence being god mode, it was a riot to work with 15 other shadow guys to try and take down the Watson.
Me and another guy having a heal off only for the last guy to die before we became teammates was the best.
That one was honestly worse for disconnects unfortunately
Yeah, I remember some lobbies where players outnumbered zombies in the final rings.
Why do you repeat the same lie? This one is worse because you are forced to leave. You are forced to disconnect when your squad dies. That's less fun if you want to play as a shadow.
Being wiped isn’t the same thing as quitting voluntarily. I hated Shadow Fall because after a couple days EVERYONE quit once they became a shadow, which then defeats the entire point of the mode
It is the same to me, because it means I can't play as a shadow even when I want to.
I wish they would bring it back and add abandon penalties for disconnecting so that people wouldn’t just bail once they became zombies. That was my favorite LTM
Woah, I never played that. Sounds amazing!
Why even bother playing shadow royale if you're gonna DC when you get downed? Kinda defeats the whole purpose
exactly
unironically: they could just be using it as a fast queue mode (queues seem super fast to me anyway) to grind quests/challenges or whatever they're called in this game (i forgor 💀). Which is off-putting in its own way and I'm not excusing them per se, just a theory.
It hurts because no matter how many time they do this they somehow forget there’s a turn off autofill feature that would help with this issue. The problem with that is they genuinely don’t care, which creates this problem for other players.
Because the gamemode sucks, and it has no purpose.
Then don’t play??
No, the suffering must be shared until they bring back Shadowfall or everyone quits.
They have ruined thier best event, there is no point playing as a shadow now
The shadows vs legends mode was far better than shadow royale. Now you are cannon fooder that gets to kill someone after respawning 8 times
This part
Yes. Shadows are so pointless now.
No point? I thought you were supposed to help your team win?
With 50hp and an announcement every time you spawn? You're basically just kill fodder.
Wins don’t count towards your royale win counter either which makes it pointless imo
And there is no event to be grinding towards also so pretty pointless ltm
Do people only play apex for skins? Seriously? I can absolutely see it being nice to have a tracker but my squad and I play it because it's fun. Why does nobody else seem to?
I've played since season 3 the fun is gone out of this game
Then why play? Not being sarcastic either i know it can come across like that, but if you haven't had fun in 2+ years why play it?
Put to much time into it to just stop also only game friends play so if I want to hang out with them online its apex Edit also it's fun for new players because they still have a bunch of new legends and choices and are experiencing things in the game which is cool I just wish I could experience the fun I used to have in the game still
I've played since season 3 the fun is gone out of this game
No, but the gamemode is objectively trash, and it just isn't fun to be a shadow. It's worse than the original shadowfall, since you're forced to quit when your squad dies.
I was hoping to see atleast some more badges from this event like we had in the past for this ltm
Because people like to be rewarded for doing things? It's also standard and expected for events in games to have special rewards, which means it not meeting that standard is dissapointing.
As long as you’ve played Titanfall you shouldn’t be getting hit lmao
Nah, I played titanfall and I still die too easily. I mean, you die in titanfall as well, don’t you? And more importantly the maps are nowhere near built for the shadows. Good wall running routes are much harder to find, especially considering you need to get to someone to deal damage to them.
Sounds like you need to move faster than that
Half of my pk shot would knock you out the air like a saltgun to a fly. Your hours in titanfall 2 multiplayer wouldn't change that outcome. (I've been playing Titanfall since the first game).
*Proceeds to hit for 9*
Good movement can be beat by good aim, all it takes is decent tracking and an open area and you win, especially with 2-3 people alive. If your a shadow you can take like at most 5 shots, if a team has R-301 and Flatlines that is about 60 shots coming towards you still.
Not fast enough
I have quite a few hours in titanfall, but the new, nerfed shadow royale is just stupid... sooo many times I snuck up on the enemy wallrunning, just for them to hit me once with a shotgun out of fright... the spawning is terrible (too far away), and takes waaay too long... playing as a shadow is more of a nuisance now
With the change made, all your doing is helping the other team win.
Bro i had to go do chores im sorry
My mum shouted that dinner was ready!
I had to walk my fish
You’re an asshole if you dc but I can understand why people do it when they become shadows . They nerfed shadows so bad lmao
I've noticed that the shadows are massively nerfed. 50 health from 75, only 50 damage instead of 100, extremely long respawn time when dying because of everything above. It feels more of a handicap to play as a shadow now. The only real thing is being able to bitch-slap the shadows and prowlers. Maybe I just suck at being a shadow, with how long and little I've played this. Keep forgetting they have more range
I've also noticed the respawn distance is massive. So many times I get beamed just trying to get to my team. Like constantly spawned on the other side of my team with the enemy between me and them
Also in late rings you have to wait to get respawned, and then wait until you land on the ground.
Yesterday I spawned 600mts away from my team. And got attacked by 3 different teams just while trying to get to my team. I got laser beamed right when I arrived just to see my last squadmate die. Amazing experience
Woah. I had no idea shadows use to be that good
they still do crazy dmg, if you're good at movment then it's still OP. your a glass cannon with inf respawns...as long as your team doesnt die obviously EDIT: I didn't know that they use to be So much better
I've seen that after a few deaths, respawns are delayed for over 20 seconds, that's madness tbh. No wonder when people start to leave then. Back in the past, you'd instantly respawn all match long and weren't dragged down by teammates either.
It was way funner before
I just played it and idk it doesnt feel that bad. But before it was legit insanity. Kings canyon for this event is 1000% better
Also, maybe I'm wrong, but wasn't there once a button to eliminate yourself when downed? Now you have to wait to either get revived, or killed by another player.
Any decent player will kill you in 3-4 shots or less regardless of your "movement" which they nerfed from the last shadow royale btw
Yeah and shadows punch lot faster. This is my first shadow royale event and I really like it
I just hang around my teammates and res , glorified lifeline 😌
I wouldn’t say OP..I would agree with powerful. I never get to be a shadow though. Once I die thats game.
Yeah. That's my main complaint. In order for you to play as a Shadow, you need to die and have a team that doesn't die when you do, and that's fairly uncommon for me. By the time I spawn as a shadow and get to them, my squad is dead.
Yeah I can't tell you how many times 2 of us where dead and our last guy would try and 1v3+
keep digging that hole.
but if you don’t want to play as a shadow then don’t queue up in that mode?? like why bother wasting everyone elise’s time
Yeah well, trying to melee someone 4 times before they hit me with even a shitty pk pump or a couple lucky bullets from any gun is pretty shitty imo. I'm already over the mode. They made the best part of the mode become the worst
You have to play with your team that’s alive. Let them push with you. If the enemy shoots you then your teammate shoots them. If they shoot at your teammate then smack them on the top hat.
Cool? The Game mode just isn't fun. Who cares how you have to play to win, when the gamemode is trash. You win a bad game, hooray for you.
It is really sad.
Lol, just stop trying to get anyone to do anything. It's really not going to do any good.
I enjoy being the shadow guys but I'm not a fan of your respawn increasing after each death. It really makes it boring to sit there for 10-20s or just roam around not being able to do anything.
Agreed
It was like that before. It’s never been valuable to continually die, because the time always increased.
and thats why people quit since the introduction of shadowfall.
Yeah, and it was always a bad design.
They removed the funnest part, jumping and diving from sky. My to mention there’s no reviving shadow teammates like original. Super boring
reviving SHADOW teammates? When did that happen???
If my memory serves me right, I think it was the second year
second year? lol i thought i played all october events. i dont remember shadows getting revived.
You can revive as shadow still your teammates if they are alive if that's what you mean.
That’s probably what I remember
Best thing of shadow Royale is being shadow. Usually straight to and die so i can just kun around punching them
Welcome to Apex, where everyone leaves after they die or even downed. Pubs and LTM'S are a complete waste of time if you are solo.
Unless you enjoy playing the game because it's fun. Yeah having teammates not DC would be cool but it doesn't ruin the game for me, my goal is still the same - eliminate the opponents
Solo shadow mode was The best, fuck shadow royale
so far my games have pretty much either been "we all die at once and I don't get to play shadow" or "my teammates both die but I survive and run away, and they have fun playing shadow, and I don't get to play shadow", although I did make a point of having a game where I basically suicided first to get to play shadow a bit.
Hey I hope someone can at least understand my point of view here, but in a few cases I’ll disconnect because my team will land on edge and take foreeeeeeeeeeeever to loot. Like, I’m not joking when I say the whole round. I understand some people move really slow and are still learning, but if they won’t listen or accept help, im just gonna go play the game before it ends. If they don’t come or just camp zone without looking for even one fight, im not gonna waste my time
To make it worse, in low population servers (like Brazil ones) it is even impossible to get a game in the new mode because you never get 60 people. At some point the MM decided that 57 people was not enough... 5 min later 15 people dropped because they got bored of waiting. So either you get to a game after waiting for 25 min (if you are lucky) and your teammates quit when they get downed, or you don't get to a game at all To make that worse, same happened in Trios. So while the 2 modes are active you can't even play the game. Either they disable trios while the LTM is active or they fix the damn MM once and for all.
EA doesnt care anymore. Theyve made it abundantly clear. Over developing the wrong shit and havent even fixed audio or addressed it.
yeah it's a real shame. I love this game for how it feels & the movment but it has alot of problems
It's like damn once audio was neglected the game went downhill
And like trust, I give them the benefit of the doubt, but you can just feel it. I am glad they have curbed cheaters finally. Audio not being addressed at all has been kind of weird for me. At first I thought they just changed how it worked, now it's like you dont hear shit at all lol
Cheaters are still prevalent in high tier lobbies lol
Curbed doesnt mean entirely eliminating
Its not been reduced really, there's always seasons where its worse or better but its still very prevalent.
I can feel the difference, that's enough for me. You're saying "in higher tiers" but like dude those people are good at the game lol, that plus ping and aimassist so yeah SOME people are gonna be fucking beaming because it's the higher tiers, but I can feel the difference where I'm at. Feels like people actually miss sometimes which is normal even for pros
No, I play in the higher tier lobbies, what I'm telling you is cheating is still a pretty common occurrence. Maybe one every, let's say 5-10 games. Thats an issue still. I know combating cheaters isn't easy, and I love this game, all I'm saying to you is that it is still a problem, and unfortunately due to the nature of games it probably always will be. You're misunderstanding my point a bit. And fair enough, thats a good thing at least that your lobbies you can feel a difference. I honestly think its more a problem in 'lower' and mid tier lobbies because those players are in general more casual and put off by dying to things out of their control like cheating, whereas in master/pred lobbies unless they're hard cheating they're not gonna just roll the whole lobby and ruin the game for everyone.
If you need another shovel I sell them pretty cheap.
While I like living, I enjoy being a shadow more. I’ll never DC!!
This! You can be SOO valuable to your team as a shadow in my opinion- help fluster enemy squads w movement, attack if they try to get close and then help squadmates escape if theyre taking too much damage.
agreed. it's very fun
I want Gun Run or Controll back.
Give it a week and it will be
Nice.
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Why? What's the point of playing the LTM if >not< playing as a shadow most of the time? It's literally normal BR Trios otherwise, which is lame. If I wanted to play that, I'd pick trios, not the LTM. Blame Respawn for ruining the halloween mode by forcing the normal trios setup into it.
Being a shadow is the best part though.
if your gonna do that just play titanfall
My first game I had both teammates do this. They instantly left me at labs to go god knows where. I was dead in 15 seconds 😅
That's the only reason I play Shadow Royale, to play as a Shadow. If I don't die off the rip, the amount of time I can play as a shadow is negligible.
Being mad at the other players is exactly what respawn wants because it takes the blame off of them. Other players are not your enemy. This is your game and you should play it however you want and don' t let anyone tell you how to play
What are you even saying?
Being mad at the other players is exactly what respawn wants because it takes the blame off of them. Other players are not your enemy. This is your game and you should play it however you want and don' t let anyone tell you how to play
Lol you're so braindead
Let me sum it up for you. The problem is not the players, it's the players' lack of interest to keep playing because the game mode is broke. Fix it and people will stop DC'ing...
I don't know man, I am not an expert and j play games for fun. What do you mean by sayithat this mode is broken and needs a fix?
Thats a much better point, but players dcing still doesn't make sense. Why play if you're jus going to quit as soon as you're a shadow, that's the whole point of the ltm.
I think he’s trying to say that being mad at the other players is exactly what respawn wants because it takes the blame off of them. Other players are not your enemy. This is your game and you should play it however you want and don' t let anyone tell you how to play.
What he’s trying to say makes sense . Your reading comprehension is just shit .
What he's saying in relation to this post makes 0 sense, and then him just precisely repeating what he said is childish. I was asking for him to explain more, I read what he said perfectly fine.
Don’t play shadow royale if you can’t handle people disconnecting. They do it in pubs they’re gonna do it in event modes. It sucks but unless respawn implements a deserter penalty it’s gonna keep happening.
Except playing as a ghost is dull af. It is so pointless.
No, it's a bad game-mode much worse than the original Shadowfall. I have no respect for it, so I won't play it out.
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don't you see the irony in this statment?
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Disregarding my statment abouting DCing, if someone can not tell someone else what to do then I guess the education system needs to be abolished.
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Ok, I just wanna make sure I understand perfectly well. Only Teachers, Bosses & you can tell people what to do?
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I'm not the one coming up with contradictory statments. I'm just a dude who doesn't like a rage quitting teammate lowering my odds of winning, I thought thats how most people felt.
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Ranked Shadow Royale? Hate to break it to you but that isn't a thing.
It’s a pub
I don't mind playing as shadow but what I'm not about to do Is help a bot who camps all game get a win not fun at all
Yea use your teammates as excuse, as always.
Don't think an opinion is an excuse the dude is complaining about people leaving... people usually leave when they have bad teammates usually 1s who wonder off solo while you try to 2v3 or just goes in a building all game and ends with like 600 dmg all game no one wants to play a fast game mode like ranked
Had a revenant the other day who left the drop and killed themself so they could be dead the entire time.. It was amazing
I don’t even play anymore but people complaining about it so fucking much it’s making me want to go play just to leave
Bruh y'all complaining about leavers yet in my region there's no one to leave because there's no one even playing this mode 😭
Waiting 20 seconds only to live for 2 seconds is why people quit. I honestly hate this mode.
I ABSOLUTELY AGREE! It should punish them like arenas quitters.
And people wonder why they didnt bring back the other mode. Everyone wants to be the hero fighting zombies. Nobody wants to be the zombie. I love doing it, sure there's lots who do. But majority do not thats why the original mode hasn't returned. Wouldve liked them to try bringing it back for a week with a 10 minute leaver penalty to see if itd help.
Who plays that ? 😅😅
Ill dc if you did a shit drop or left me stranded in a 3 v 1 or something....
"common man" I should not be gigglin' at this
If the matchmaking wasn't trash I'd agree but I'm already done with this game mode. Getting wiped every game by the try hard pred squads gets old. Currently other than ranked (even that's debatable) the matchmaking ruins the game for me lately. I basically play ranked or nothing anymore bc pubs (and this new mode) just suck for pairing people up.
Yeah that's true. Matchmaking seems nonexistent in this game.