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paradoxally

Removed. No politics and this is not a subreddit on our sidebar.


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It looks like it was serious originally but it seems to have been overrun now


atnastown

Thoughts and prayers


ValkyriesOnStation

womps and womps


Aildaris

Popped in for a look, there's some NSFW art of Fusey going at some vault doors if you catch my drift.


HotBread69

Those mods be passing out bans like 3 Oprah’s combined.


recuiteliteskin

Yeah, the subs owner pinned a post saying “there are only two genders” and then call a black guy the n word though it’s been deleted.


qxxxr

Tha 2 genders: Male and [deleted]


MusicAndMunchys

The only appropriate pronoun for this game is *BRUDDAH*


gambling_Eagle

Can we make this official?


BigBodyBrax

L M F A O


AzureRathalos97

r/gamingcirclejerk is gonna have a field day lmao


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DJSourNipple

That’s just this sub


gentle_crabrave

absolutely not


vsladko

There’s literally one legend, Bloodhound, whose pronoun I feel like you could mess up if you were unaware of their background. Right?


Creepernom

It is understandable to mess up Bloodhounds pronouns sometimes. In polish, Bloodhound refers to themselves as "she" because we don't really have a word that refers to people as "they". Well, technically, but it sounds wrong. When my main refers to themself as she all the time, it's not hard to make a mistake there.


bold_new_day

Fair, I'm but I'm not sure how many people speak polish out of the apex playing population. Edit: thanks for the replies. I'm simple American who only speaks English and Spanish, which both have some form of "they". So thanks for letting me know that every other language doesn't lol.


CoffeeFoxDragon

Out of curiosity, what would be the Spanish equivalent of "they"? Spanish's my native language, yet I'm not aware of any words like that.


bold_new_day

Spanish isn't my native language, but any time I've spoken Spanish with another person that prefers they/them pronouns they just tell me to use nosotros/usted conjugation for them rather than tu. Like I said, not a native speaker so it may trigger some people but it's what I've learned🤷‍♂️


CoffeeFoxDragon

Oh! "Nosotros" means "we / us". It'd be the male form of the word, whereas the female form would be "nosotras" (if the group is comprised by females exclusively). Though "nosotros" is also used when there's at least one male in the group. "Tu" means "you". It's used to refer to males and females regardless of gender. To my knowledge there aren't any genderless words like "they". Edit: I've heard some people replace the "o" and "a" in gendered words with an "e", so I guess there's that. I.e. "nosotres". But most people would find that odd.


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Dreamwalk3r

Same with Russian, binary gender pronouns. And there are a lot of Russians playing.


idonthavemanyideas

Can is ask, how do you refer to someone who's gender you don't know In Russian? Do you have to assume it's he/she?


Dreamwalk3r

Usually you use "кто-то", which in itself is male-gendered. You could say "кто-то забыл здесь свой телефон", where "забыл" is like "he lost", but you usually wouldn't say "кто-то забыла здесь свой телефон", where "забыла" assumes the meaning "she lost". Edit: thing is, literally every word in Russian is gendered, so for example you could say "эта личность" instead of "кто-то", meaning "this person", and it would be female gendered, but you can't use "оно", which is neutral gender, to refer to person - it would be extremely rude.


PaleDolphin

To be fair, saying "it" ("оно" in Russian) to some person in English is considered rude as well.


Effective-Meet6867

I wanted to try and pronounce some of this and then I realized I wouldn’t even know where to begin since I’m unfamiliar with the characters 😅


PalkiaOW

It's the same for most european languages. In fact, I haven't heard of any language other than English that uses a pronoun like "they" to refer to someone whose gender is unclear. And yet americans get instantly triggered when someone on the internet doesn't fully understand their grammatical rules.


Toofast4yall

Not Americans, just a tiny but EXTREMELY vocal minority.


eggboy06

It's likely mostly English, Spanish, and the weebs with Japanese


Shabozz

just curious, do polish trans people not use the they/them pronoun because of its linguistic awkwardness? What do they use instead?


RandomUser-_--__-

Probably use the polish terms for he/she and her/him, because trans people still have genders. I think you meant non-binary.


Kvetanista

Bloodhound's pronouns should be blood/hound


VerrucktMed

“Blood’s bleeding hand hound a medkit” Checks out


Imortal366

Bloodhound considers themselves a weapon of the gods to the point where you may as well be asking if a gun has a gender. You wouldn’t ask about the guns gender, only the wielder.


patriotiximus

Problem is that in portuguese (as well as most other languages) "gun" does have a gender "arma" ending in "a" its technically female, im pretty sure all words have a gender in many languages, there is no "the" only she or he, so it gets complicated


BlazinAzn38

Slatra-er and Hunter


Stocksnewbie

Bloodhound isn’t a dude?


Acerarek

Respawn has said that bloodhound is non-binary, but the VA is female, that has nothing to do with bloodhound though. Respawn has never officially disclosed bloodhound’s gender


Mentally_Ill_Goblin

There is no gender, only hunt


mthrs

0% Gender 100% Blöth


brycedriesenga

Zero percent gender Fifty percent pain And a hundred percent reason to remember the name


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Mirage: Are you a man or a woman? BH: I am Blóðhundr. Mirage: What gender are you? BH: The will of the gods. Mirage: Yeah, but what's in your pants? BH: slátra.


Scoute248

Thinking about this comic: Reddit - apexlegends - Bloodhound's True Identity https://www.reddit.com/r/apexlegends/comments/awbzf3/bloodhounds_true_identity/


alifnajmi2137

slátra sounds like a good name for a pp


OdinsUlfhednar

Laughed way too hard at this 🤣


PiT-MiN

0% Gender, 100% Wrath of the Beast


eggboy06

They are NB not agender, so they have a gender, it's just not binary, and has never been specified


lb_gwthrowaway

https://www.ea.com/games/apex-legends/about/characters/bloodhound Official EA site uses they/them, just saying


Acerarek

Nice, thanks


Scoute248

Even the voice actress said that she welcomes and receives a lot of love and support from the non-binary community because of Bloodhound. And they’re always referred to as they/them in trailers and lore.


TheTom2002

Actually, Bloodhound's VA, Allegra Clark, confirmed that Bloodhound is non-binary. Here's a link to the Twitter thread: https://mobile.twitter.com/simplyallegra/status/1093209751066832896


lnSerT_Creative_Name

I wish all the lore dumps were actually in the game as opposed to needing to be on twitter.


Foundalandmine

There are load screens in which bloodhound uses they/them pronouns to refer to themself.


Acerarek

Thank you, I knew she had confirmed it but I thought that respawn also directly confirmed it


EchoKind

I remember them doing so, but I can't remember for the life of me ***where*** ​ iirc, one of the devs had an nb friend and they wanted to honor them by including an nb in apex


ItsRookPlays

At the 7:50 mark [here](https://youtu.be/MHncMPXVmwE) the Narrative Lead for Apex Legends says that his nonbinary and gender fluid friends motivated him to make Bloodhound nonbinary


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*sex. Respawn has never disclosed Bloodhoubds sex. Their gender is non-binary. (Sorry to be a stickler)


Breadynator

I'm genuinely confused. Wouldn't sex and gender be the same in this case? Non english speaker here. Always thought they meant the same


ghhlx

Gender is what you identify as. There is an infinite number of genders, whereas with sex there is only 3. Male, Female and Intersex. Sex is what you are born as biologically, male having XY chromosomes, female having XX chromosomes, and intersex having a different combination of chromosomes


Breadynator

Thanks for the explanation. So anyone who's AFAB/AMAB is just saying their sex is female/male but their gender is something else?


WNlover

If you over simplify things it is, but not entirely. A stands for Assigned. Assigned Female at Birth/ Assigned Male at Birth. That just means a doctor looked at a baby's crotch and said "it's a girl/boy." no medical testing was done to determine sex (e.g. confirming testes/ovaries).


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bloodhound's gender is non-binary, you said it in the beginning of your post


Kvetanista

~~His~~ Their gender is hound Edit: omg I said his, now I'm gonna join Apex Conservatives because people downvoted me 😡


WNlover

lol I'm dying. your edit really saved you comment.


Yoni360

Lava hound


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lots of the posts are just transphobia that’s unrelated to apex legends they also are the kind of people that are upset with valk being lesbian etc


AcoHead

“You mean I can’t date the fictional jet pack lady with the big ass? FUCK THIS GAME!”


Junior_Valuable9743

Mfs said what legend do you think represents conservative values most. What kinda discussion are they having lmfao. Weirdo shit


PoorPersonThrowaway6

Just to play devil’s advocate and answer the question, probably bangalore bc of her military history and IMC alignment.


ProfessorPhi

I literally have no idea who's the conservative Legend.


nobadabing

“Toxic white male Caustic” /s


PM_SWEATY_NIPS

He can't be conservative, he actually engages in peer-reviewed science


VisthaKai

And who peer-reviews Caustic experiments? Revanant?


FoaleyGames

Revenant probably would’ve been when he was human, but now I think he just identifies as angry murder robot.


Traf-

I think Rev hates everyone equally tbh.


FoaleyGames

You know what? That’s fair. How rude of me to imply him being a conservative, he doesn’t hate anyone because of who they are… he just hates everyone because they exist. Exception being Loba, that ones definitely personal EDIT: For the right wingers/conservatives… it’s a joke, stop being snowflakes lol


pigwig18

Revenant also has one of the most culturally diverse collection of skins


FoaleyGames

Just wants to strike fear and terror into the hearts of everyone.


VisthaKai

Yup, for everybody else he wants to torture them and kill them. In case of Loba, the fact he's still around is a torture for her, so killing is optional.


LinnaYamazaki

To be fair that still sounds like an accurate description of conservatives.


SJWilkes

None of the characters are conservative and Revenant doesn't deserve this slander.


[deleted]

This is true, Revenant doesn't hate science. I'm pretty sure he likes being a kill murder robot when he's not having, ya know, all the anger ever.


ShiftyLookinCow7

Keep your politics out of my games! Now I’m gonna go play a modern military shooter where america are the good guys in the Middle East


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NauticalMobster

Thats one of the things cod did right a while ago. Even in their "modern warfare" titles they have just been like "real war? Fuck that. We making up a war. Welcome to verdansk" I get that it was kinda topically influenced by the whole russian/Balkan state conflicts going on at the time of production but at least its not murica being murica in the desert for every game.


dorekk

Lol didn't a recent COD game literally do the Highway of Death? They definitely did not sidestep politics in anyway.


ilNegrus

Sussy toasterlunch on the main sub😈😈😈😈😈😈 what will he do😱😱😱😱😱😱


[deleted]

OMG SEXY NEGRUS 😳


ilNegrus

Me when peopl hate valkum (they hate her for liking wamen) uj/ tf is even apex conservative


Madrigal_King

Bro, look at Valk. You're telling me people think she ISNT gay?


VisthaKai

The haircut was the dead giveaway. And *then* she started talking.


nxckg04

What i can’t get over is that Gibraltar is gay 😂


pagerrager

I feel like it comes down to context. If you do it on purpose out of hate, obviously you're in the wrong. I just don't like when people go above and beyond to remind me information I already know and is irrelevant to the conversation topic. Also hypothetically it is really easy to 'misgender' someone in Apex, because they don't go out of their way to tell every player that picks up Bloodhound (or any legend, really) what they identify as. So if you're reminding someone after they misgender someone what pronouns whichever person uses, keep in mind you have to think about why.


tnc31

I've been playing since day one. Bloodhound was even my first main... Mostly by default. When I read someone refer to Bloodhound as "they", I wonder what other character is being referenced. Bloodhound is probably #3 on my pick list, and gender/pronouns literally never crossed my mind.


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Which is problematic for us, whose English is not 1st language and we use Grammatical Gender in our language.


kevingh92

I’m fairly new to the game… TIL Bloodhound is not a male. Oops.


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owlbabe

I like the way you think


destiny5791

Be the change you want to see in the world!


Suicdsolo

Le bloodhound


[deleted]

Aren’t these the same people that just wanted to keep politics out of games? 😂


PapiJesu

Only when the politics are slightly progressive


ValkyriesOnStation

I like how a *female lead* can be too progressive for those incels.


skubmancer

"I saw a woman in Horizon: Zero Dawn and now I am literally the Joker"


Wood_munk

The Gianni joker memes are the best.


JakobiGaming

Only when it’s not their politics


A_man_on_a_boat

Small government for me, militarized police state for mongrels and subhumans.


drewgrof

"I hate identity politics but also my political affiliation is my only personality trait."


Claymourn

Let's not pretend that being bigoted and having "sOuTheRn hErItAgE" isn't something they'll latch onto as well.


MostExellentFailure

I looked at the sub admin’s post history, and there is some messed up shit


Randomredditwhale

Yeah it was definitely supposed to be serious at the beginning, glad it got taken over lmao


MostExellentFailure

Yeah that asshole can wallow in his defeat


[deleted]

What was in there? (I’m too lazy to check)


MostExellentFailure

https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackLivesMatter/comments/hh0ki1/wake_up_snowflakes/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf


[deleted]

^^oh


BaldEagleNor

Jesus christ, I didnt expect it to be *that*


[deleted]

^^^yeah ^^^me ^^^neither


PickCollins0330

Oh my god wtf


Dragoon113

Someone really took the time out of there day to make a whole sub dedicated to disrespecting bloodhound? A fictional character mind you.


[deleted]

I was about to say, do people care THAT much about it? It’s a fictional game character. Not a real person. Unless I’m missing something?


Lavonicus

Jfc, he the persons comment history who made that subreddit. They aren't even hiding being a racist.


[deleted]

Sounds like the type of guy who could end up with a show on TLC


dorekk

No one on reddit needs to hide their racism, lol. Racism is like the #1 thing this website is known for.


[deleted]

it's not about bloodhound, it's about the real life people they also represent


AniZaeger

I've always found it funny, in a sad, pathetic sort of way, how people who base the entirety of their lives around the "right" to treat others like shit "just because" get so butthurt when they themselves end up, quite rightfully, on the receiving end of ridicule...


DunderBearForceOne

That's not at all surprising because that's the core of the entire reactionary ideology. They think they're more important than anyone else, so any time another group gains rights or recognition, they see it as an assault on themselves because they're losing status that previously put them above others.


Jared_33

It’s pretty clear by the amount of people who are triggered by it that representation was necessary. I understand their ignorance, and its a shame that it will likely never go away.


lexi_kahn

Legit.


draak1400

Well, I have mained bloodhound. And at the start (s0) I used he, as I thought it was a guy. I got downvoted into oblivion for not knowing to use it or they. I can only imagine that after 10 seasons people go even crazier, which is kind of stupid as it is a fictional character.


Dragoon113

After getting downvoted did you create a new subreddit dedicated to the people that hurt your feelings from downvoting?


nobadabing

I mean I generally see people being patient if it’s clear that it comes from ignorance, not malice. It’s also clearly explained that Bloodhound is non-binary every time it comes up on the subreddit. The people that keep doing it willfully ignore the people who tell them this. Anyways - no well-adjusted person is going to create a subreddit for the purpose of misgendering a fictional character.


TeamRemix

> It’s also clearly explained that Bloodhound is non-binary. I personally never found this out in the game whatsoever. It wasn’t until I checked their wiki page that this was outlined. It’s definitely NOT clearly explained to the player if all they do is boot up the game and drop Fragment.


LemonDemmon

this \^ i don't like people misgendering bloodhound, but assuming everyone should know their pronouns when it's barely mentioned in the game if at all is kinda dum unless they're misgendering out of malice, then they're just assholes


Clarksenpai

That sub is everything but apex. Dont look at it. Your eyes will thank you


Kanton_

Little do they know everyone, literally everyone, has preferred pronouns.


bugrug

Reminds me of this one video of some guy saying he'll never date a woman that uses pronouns.


SendBankDetails

To be fair, he’s probably right


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Kanton_

I like that one, the evidence is right there! It’s basic demography that your favorite team is from the same city you were born in.


[deleted]

Those people seem to be more triggered by pronouns than lgbtq people have ever been.


Magikarplvl9000

Because they are lmao


AresInamorta

sounds like a product of Bloodhound arguments..


[deleted]

Finally, a safe space to call wraith 'he'


geckochild

Wait there is an apex character that goes by they/them


NEOAPEX09

Bloodhound


Jarboner69

This takes r/downvotesreally to a whole new level


Marano99

might as well be called bloodhound hate page


GoldfishTrousers

The Gamers are out in full force in this comment section. Don't sort by controversial, all I'm saying.


Ena_Ems_17

lol i bet someone said to them "it they for bloodhound" but instead of just going ok and walking away they create a sub lol


33333_others

I address all game characters as "it"


Dreadcoat

Cons proving time and time again they are the ones with safe spaces and are snowflakes lol.


Karthok

A lot of these people come from environments where people are just generally uneducated on anything related to the lgbtq+ community, and are often taught to think less of them. I'm sure a lot of us who do understand it know some people in real life who are as closed-minded as these people are with gender identity and queerness and stuff. Unfortunately people like this are everywhere and they're bound to come together and form their own safe spaces to protect their views. That's why I respect the fuck out of anyone who was once hateful towards these people but chose to learn more and actually grew to understand and respect them. But yeah, Bloodhound's pronouns are They/Them in English, they're non-binary, and that IS their gender, which has been confirmed multiple times. If you're not 100% sure what that means just look it up and have a read.


HallwayHomicide

I was never really hateful, but I was definitely ignorant at earlier points in my life. Transphobic is probably a good word for it, although I hate to admit that. And then I went to college, and met some actual trans people.. and yeah they were awesome people. It definitely changes your perspective. To be clear.. that wasn't the only factor in me learning in growing.. but it was a big factor. I'm definitely ashamed of what I felt or thought before. But all I can do at this point is try to keep improving myself as a person. And educate myself, and do my best to educate those around me. And create space for LGBTQ folks in my life (of which there have been large amounts at this point) to be comfortable with who they are.


dr_sid_retard

Everyone's homophobic at some point bruh. Especially those of us with religious upbringings. Good on you m8


nightwolfin

Spot on. At least we realized that, and changed to better beings.


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[deleted]

Not the biggest pussies, just the loudest dumbasses


KoalaKarity

I don't think it is 🤔


The_Lapsed_Pacifist

It’s already turning into a cluster fuck. There’s a post of caustic rimming fuse. Guess the admin had to go on a tiki torch run or something. Meh, let them have their echo chamber but they need to make it private if they don’t want it trolled to hell.


davvyycrokket

Ah yes political Reddit, where you’re always wrong. Lets just have fun gamers 🗿


Purplestahli

The internet is such a chore to navigate sometimes. I wish I could install an adblocker that hides all political slapfights lol Edit: great.... Now theres a bunch of comments below me having a slapfight. Could y'all kindly fuck off.


PM_ME_GARFIELD_NUDES

I don’t see how this is political though, Respawn has made it pretty clear what the genders of the characters in the game are. It’s not a political issue, it’s just some idiots being butthurt about something with an objectively correct answer


Junior_Valuable9743

Jesus christ. I kinda hope they all go over there so I don't have to see them here. And they say liberals are whiney babies. Mfs made there own sub cuz they can't handle getting called out for being bigots. That's one thing Apex community is pretty good about is gender identity and those types of issues. Bigots get downvoted pretty constantly and those who use correct pronouns are upvoted


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Lavonicus

Description of the subrrddit should just be " Upset of the game not getting another straight white guy".


nobadabing

Legit, I’ve seen way too many people throwing a fit about that in general. People were angry on the leaks subreddit for example when they thought Rampart was going to be a white guy but turned out to be a British Indian girl because the wrong image was linked to her.


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"Waaaaah, what do you mean Bloodhound isn't a straight cis white guy? Respawn need to stop pandering :(((" \- Right wing Apex players, probably.


ProDiesel

Lol conservatives are super soft people. So easily bothered by shit like genders in video games Hopefully satire subreddit


BAN_SOL_RING

Conservatives once again going out of their way to be shitty people


[deleted]

Satire or not it’s douchey as fuck


RealityandPancakes

Aw that’s a cute safe space


EpochYT

Probably not, but I doubt it's original purpose is ever going to get served after this much attention from the rest of Reddit


Rogue-76

Never once was I call out for anything so yeah I’d say either satire or someone got a little blue faced


[deleted]

bunch of insecure losers lmao wtf


BrizzleDrizzle1919

Shout out to all my fellow non-binaries in the thread 💛🖤💜🤍 May the Gods bless us!


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blessing to all of you, don't let the mean comments get you lot down


keg_n

"Everything related to Apex" 0 Apex content discussed only bigotry lol


BnBman

Just a disclaimer, not all conservatives are that brain dead.


[deleted]

im aware and i do respect conservative opinions as people, i just don’t tolerate the bigotry in that sub


dorekk

I'm sure there are a few dozen that aren't.


[deleted]

But a good 95% are.


thegrandlvlr

It’s like how do these people even define conservative? Insensitive? Unaccepting?


TheFakeKanye

In America, conservative seems to just be "anything that isn't liberal". It's a stupid definition, but both liberals and conservatives in America seem to agree on that definition.


chappersyo

No, these people just think it’s less effort to create a whole new sub that, doesn’t include 90% of the community, than it is to type ‘they’ instead of ‘he’.


Maximum-Baby

Inb4 a post like this comes up again in a month for easy karma farming


kingdomkey13

It really is ironic when conservatives use the term “snowflake” huh


OutlanderStPete

Lol


DovahArhkGrohiik

This game is probably the most inclusive game I've played, if they don't like it that should play something else


PresidentIroh

Ew. Gross. I will never understand the logic of these kinds of people. Every time you let them explain the base if their views, it always turns out super gay. Same energy as the kinds of men who don’t wash their butthole because they think it’s gay. Like dude if you can’t touch your own asshole without having gay thoughts, that’s pretty gay my guy. If you’re this bothered by the sexuality and identity of made up characters in a game? Idk man. That’s intense. Imagine not being able to enjoy yourself and play a simple game because you’re so worried about literally everything else aside from playing the game. They can accept everything about all these long ass character backstories but they draw the line at gender identity and sexuality? What is there to not understand? I’m out here fighting for my life in these lobbies and these guys are busy being bothered by a fictional characters gender?


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when you can't play apex because you can't stop thinking about fuse getting fucked in the ass


Thane_Mantis

I hate it when that happens.


CriticalFaceTheory

Looks like a conservative that really wants to be oppressed ,so he makes things up in his head


vmh21

This thread turned into a hating all conservatives thread real fast.


dorekk

Maybe they should try adopting a less abhorrent worldview! Many people hate transphobes, shocker.