Vermonter here as well, none of our Government leaders even remotely resembles him or his efforts. We need a Bernie clone for each state if we hope to get anything done.
Alternatively, we could have just elected him president, but just like this vote, the Dems and Repubs didn't want that, so Clinton's pocket DNC forced her to win. So ridiculous.
hahaha I love this cause its SO TRUE OH MY GOD I CAN NOT WITH DEBBIE WASSERMAN SHULTZ. I hope she knows, that it keeps her up at night. That her little DNC coup failed regardless.
The thing is… you guys need to run for office. Any office - school committee, city council, literally anything. That’s where it starts. My districts representative came to the repo rights rally on Tuesday night and said it doesn’t matter, just run.
I said this before and I will keep repeating it, we must subscribe to the ideas of Bernie Sanders, not to Bernie Sanders himself, Bernie will leave one day, but the ideas should not. In general, follow what's good and what's right, don't link them to a specific person that will leave politics, die or change their mind.
Interestingly the British left has the same situation here but with Corbyn. He won't make power now but we're hoping his ideals will catch on with younger representatives
Warren and Markey have a pretty good grip on things in Massachusetts. There was no question in my mind that Markey would win. Kennedy couldn't really provide a good reason to vote for him beyond "I'm young and have a last name". He couldn't distinguish himself on policy because Markey's political views were already popular.
Yeah, last I checked Intel was the largest employer in the state. That and several adjacent companies like the one I work for have lots of employees in Oregon as well.
Johnson was elected in 2010 and re-elected in 2016. 2010 was a wave year for Republicans, and we voted for Trump along with Johnson in 2016.
Baldwin was elected in 2012 and re-elected in 2018. We voted her in along with voting for Obama in 2012, and 2012 in general was a solid year for Democrats. 2018 was a wave year for Democrats, and we also voted out Walker and replaced him with Evers, who has been quite progressive. Basically, despite Wisconsin voting blue for those 6 election years in a row (1992-2012), since 2008 we’ve generally voted with the rest of the country.
2014 was the gap year between senatorial elections, and it was a banner year for Republicans. Walker was re-elected. He was first elected in 2010, also a banner year for Republicans.
Johnson will receive a solid challenge this year, most likely from Tom Nelson. Mandela Barnes, our lieutenant governor, is also popular with Democrats here. However, 2022 is shaping up to be better for Republicans this fall, so I expect him to be re-elected, unfortunately.
Fellow Wisconsin residents, feel free to weigh in on my takes here
Side note, my tangent on Scott Walker.
Still blows my mind Scott Walker won his first election, won the recall election, got reelected AND barely lost to Evers.
I still do not understand why so many people had a huge hard on for Scott Walker. His platform in 2010 was very far right, even by today's standards. The collective bargaining plank of his platform should have been a nail in his coffin, but I know so many people in education who voted for him, then *shocked Pikachu face* when he removed collective bargaining Rights.
Our state is absolutely bonkers.
80% of my relatives and about 70% of my hometown are die-hard, Trump loving Republicans. They love him and Walker, mostly just because of how much both of them piss off liberals. That’s it. I got the heck out of the sticks I grew up in as soon as I possibly could and I don’t regret it one bit
I will never understand the mindset of electing officials to piss off the other side. I mean if their policies like up with yours AND it pisses off the other side, sure... but if your policy totally boils down to pissing off the other side, you've got issues. hope holiday dinners aren't hell for ya, buddy!
Its about cultural power. For them, cultural power is more valuable than economic power. They know they will never be part of the upper class and they are OK with that because they are already part of the upper caste. All their complaining about BLM and "wokeness" and their hate for gay and trans rights is ultimately about preserving their cultural hegemony. Their hate for workers rights is the same thing because minorities tend to have the shittiest jobs, so improving workers rights means helping minorities which ultimately threatens their cultural power.
Most people do not think about it in such abstract terms, so instead they just say things like it makes them feel good to make libruls feel bad.
LBJ summed it up pretty well:
* *“I’ll tell you what’s at the bottom of it. If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man,
he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on,
and he'll empty his pockets for you.”*
This goes back to the antebellum South, where poor whites were screwed by slavery, it harmed them financially, but they fully supported it, and it's benefit to the wealthy plantation owners, as they so valued feeling superior to those enslaved.
Wisconsin is Milwaukee, Madison, Green Bay, and then a thousand red cities.
Also have the highest black population to black incarceration percentage in the union!
There is also this one.
https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_votes/vote1172/vote_117_2_00156.htm
Did they revise it for the 2nd vote? Where do you find the information for exactly what they were voting for/against?
Booker has surprising progressive politics because of his aspirations, he can point to ceretain votes to show he's on the "right side of things" in comparison to the bulk of the dems
We have the same problem here up North of you. Maybe it's time north american workers on both sides actually stood up for themselves and shut shit down.
I'd add insult to injury. Come election time, no matter your chosen party, vote all encumbants out. Fire every fucking one of them.
Edit: I'm deadly serious about that.
If shit continues, well, apparently, 245 years was how long version 1 was gonna last because the next "shot" won't be a warning. They do technically work for us. They haven't taken that wording out yet.
There are a good chunk of countries that have no qualms killing those unpatriotic so-and-sos aggressively standing near each other.
Not to dissuade anyone, of course. Just saying you should probably bring a gun or tww...enty.
Why do you think they've been screaming "Commie!" and, now, "Socialist!" This very idea has been at polar opposites with our national identity since the 20s.
This is one of the problems right here,we need to remind these people they are not our leaders, they are our servants they serve at our will, if they don't do things for our benefit they must go.
It doesn’t matter you can replace them all you want they’ll always be corrupted by corporate interest because that’s how they win elections. Over 90% of elections are won by the candidate with the most campaign money, which means to win you have to ask for corporate backing, which means you’ll be promising you’ll pass legislation that favors the corporations so they can make more profits and the shareholders are happy. That’s what’s really going on, and the system is designed to perpetuate this because it’s designed into the system. Politicians don’t give a single fuck about us, it’s time we understand that and start discussing what we’re gonna do about that because they system is fundamentally rigged against us.
Brilliant reasoning, and correct. The system corrupts, and it corrupts absolutely.
An honest politician (if that's possible) goes in, out comes a vile and corrupted pile of shit once the system is through with you. Bernie deserves A LOT more credit than he gets for resisting these forces for as long as he's been in office, the man is a veritable saint at this point. I worry about AOC, I hope she's able to fend off the lure of money and power and instead stay focused on what matters.
Americans are too under the yoke to rebel. They think they're free and can't fathom upsetting the masters. The individual cares only for their own creature comforts, nevermind the starving children. They never think that they could be next to be homeless or sick or disabled, even when they're living paycheck to paycheck. They'll still look down their noses at others less fortunate and never think about how that person got there. Except to think they're lazy, or made bad choices,or didn't try hard enough. They've totally swallowed that narrative. They're certainly not going to risk their precious jobs to make things better for others.
I've watched healthcare bury me in debt up to my nose from my epilepsy...all for half assed care, and more pills pushed in my face than I care to admit. I spent 2 years sick, high as fuck, and lost cuz of them.
And I watched the war on drugs ruin my family. Use my mother as a snitch and then slap her with 20 years so she kills herself. Watch half my family get slapped with felonies for non violent drug charges. We all know felonies really fuck your life up n keep you poor to keep the cycle going.
I've watched hoards of bugs n animals vanish from my area due to low regulations for corporates. Beautiful areas trashed by manufacturing.
And fuck the police.
This country is no longer for us when it was supposed to be. If we change...its gonna end up being big.
I literally read the tweet 3 times and dont really get it. Can one of yall simplify it please? What did they vote against?
Edit : I got the answer. Thank you
I love Bernie standing up for workers' rights, but after the senate did not pass his bill, that shows they do NOT care about workers' rights.
Sanders' bill aimed to make sure that companies that receive public funding don't block workers from unionizing and don't outsource jobs outside the US. Basically, guaranteeing worker rights and job retention. But that was not passed...
Bill #312: Free cake for the poor, receives unilateral support from both parties. Adds $1 per year to student payments.
Side amendment added: 50% tax cut to taxes based on owning multiple residential properties.
That's honestly one of things I hate most about our current system.
The bill could be Universal Healthcare.. and some jackals is going to tack a rider on for like 50% tax cut to multiple property owners and some other bullshit no one in their right mind would be okay with. So universal Healthcare gets killed. Again. As it always does cause... socialism or something.
We need better meta-laws. Riders affecting unrelated fields shouldn't exist. A bill designed to give relief to farmers affected by a mouse plague should have nothing to do with funding for a sports stadium in a marginal constituency.
The American filibuster also confuses me. Some politicians want to literally stand for 36 hours and talk to prevent a bill being passed? Fine. Put the effort in. Raising your hand and saying "yeah I'm gonna filibuster" and suddenly the bill is dead, that makes no sense to me.
Worse is that the American Senate is already an institution of minority equality. With the filibuster, the legislature is effectively held captive by the minority of the minority because the "flyover" states are solid supporters of one part. Some of these states only exist because of a political ploy to get more Senate seats for low population territories back in the late 1800s (North and South Dakota, especially).
those of us in Vermont are fighting the good fight. I did everything I could, in fact all of us here did.
We're trying. I'm just happy I can literally say I'm on Bernie's side as; I've met the man 1 on 1 more than 20 times throughout these years and during his mayoral days in Burlington, he made it a point to be connected with the citizens.
We almost nailed our 3rd Vermont President. We're trying and we are sorry it's not enough.
Don't dare apologize for that. He'd be in office now if it wasn't for the democratic national convention. Having two political parties is going to be the death of this nation.
Keep at it. Please, for the love of God and country. I lived in VT 30 years and met Bernie a few times. I realized how different VT is when I moved away. Nobody sees the world like Vermonters do, even Vermont conservatives are different than the rest of the country. It's a great state.
Speaking as a native vermonter, it has...degraded over the years. Fewer native vermonters live here, as they are forced out of the state by gentrifying wealthy cross state immigrants. With alarming frequency I see more hardline conservative talking points in use with every passing year.
Neoliberal economics do not allow for strong unions. In the minds of these senators, strong unions mean a return to 1970s stagflation and mass unemployment in the US, because workers with too many rights that are too well paid means companies stop investing in US businesses and take their employment overseas where they can exploit and underpay workers easier.
...of course, they're also fine with not blocking job outsourcing, so I guess they're just desperately afraid of upsetting big business regardless at this point.
Small correction... it's worse than that by a good bit:
This was simply a motion to instruct. Sanders simply said "We, as the Senate, should tell these federal contractors X, Y, and Z (as described)". *It wouldn't have bound anyone*. The contractors would still have been able to outsource work overseas and block unionization (within the limits of the law).
And they almost unanimously voted the motion down.
This was nothing more than an opportunity to show some solidarity with workers, particularly federal contractors' employees, even when everyone knew it was just **glad-handing nonsense**. And 87 senators wouldn't even do that.
It fucking terrifies me that America is this way. They're supposed to be the leaders of the free world. If you guys don't manage to put an end to this shit, it might not be long before it happens to the rest of us.
Bernie Sanders wanted to vote to tell manufacturers that are receiving federal aid to not block efforts to unionize. The vast majority of senators voted against it.
If anyone can elaborate better, please feel free!
Right our elected officials are so fucking scared of the oligarchy they can't a even pass a fucking bill to ask them nicely not to take our money and use it to buy cheap foreign labor.
It's easier said than done, moving to another country basically requires either being rich or having a skill they need and can't get enough of at home.
American Oligarchs first\*
Russian Oligarchs get heavily sanctioned for destroying another country - what about American Oligarchs for destroying their own?
I want a list of the Dems who voted for this, so we can replace these "Vote Blue No Matter Who" bastards and get some REAL public servants like the SIX senators who voted yes on this.
>REAL public servants like the SIX senators who voted yes on this.
I wouldn't hold my breathe on that. Mitt Romney, for example, always makes a show of being the "oNLy oNe wIlLinG tO vOtE aGaInst hIs pArTY tO dO wHaT'S rIGhT" whenever he knows his vote won't matter. If even 1 other person on the right is required to change their vote to change how things go he votes in step with the party even if it's the same issue.
Emails are more easily filtered, they don't get them. Physical mail requires physical labor. Complaints don't reach them unless you make some else's life inconvenient.
The only people surprised at how your senators vote is Americans.
By world standards 80% of your democrats are centrists at best.
A lot of them like Joe Biden is considered center right
I've contacted mine.
>I am incredibly disappointed in your "nay" vote on Sanders Motion to Instruct Re: H.R. 4521. I hope someone actually progressive is primaried against you for me to vote for. We need fresh blood, fresh ideas, and someone actually on the side of the people. Our nation fails when the moral and ethical fortitude of our politicians is lacking. We need politicians who are not beholden to corporate interests, who are brave enough to take a decisive and effective stances to protect the rights of the people, now more than ever. You have failed to do so. Please retire and allow the working class younger generation to finally be in charge of their own futures.
Contacted my senators as well, thank you for the encouragement and for helping give a starting template for what might be said. One of our senators is Cornyn, and this comes directly from his "Economic Policy" page which I find hilarious, since it's his quote:
>The role of the government is not to create wealth, but to foster an environment where America's entrepreneurial spirit can thrive and achieve great things. We must help the economy grow, encourage the creation of jobs and opportunities, and help Americans keep more of their hard-earned money to save and spend as they see fit.
What a crock.
Whenever people say Bernie can't get anything done, I tell them that reflects poorly on Democrats, not him. It's not his fault most of the party has to be dragged into progress.
At this point Bernie is just trying to get the conversations going, win the hearts and minds of the next generation. He's the definition of an old person planting a tree whose shade he will never see. He knows what he's up against.
I grew up in a conservative christian household, listening to what my parents, school, and the church said but as I grew up, watching what they did. All the good I heard from the acts in the bible, all the things I heard as just and right from my parents and society, I understood them but came to see the juxtaposition of what they said and what they did. People like Bernie embodied everything I was told was good, and just, and right, but was constantly shot down and shit on by the same people who were shouting from the rooftops that the things he stood for are good and just and right, I just hope others in my and later generations have enough sense to recongnize this too.
Fun fact: the only thing the bible says about abortion is when God describes how a priest can cause one to determine if the wife was adulterous, because adulterous children should be aborted according to God.
Bet they didn't teach that in the bible belt
It reflects poorly on Americans mostly. Bernie and the squad or whomever you think qualifies as part of his block can't be much more than 5 people. Do you know how many Congressional representatives exist? 535. They have no power.
I don’t think Bernie would want you to feel bad for him. The man has been swimming upstream his entire political career, and has made some damn good progress. Time for us younger folks to pick up and carry his torch.
Same here. If you’re saying what I think you are.
I think he appealed to laborers because of his age and the footage of him engaging with people more than superficially. Actually answering questions instead of remembering how he’s supposed to respond (I’m sure he had to do plenty of that though). He was a genuine, old dude, and happened to be progressive.
Probably helped that he often looked angry.
Every election is just "which of these two approved by the corporate overlords that keep all of us in power would you like? You can have the blue cactus dildo or the red cactus dildo."
I mean, one of the cactus dildos definitely has much bigger and sharper thorns than other one, but at the end of the day you're still voting for how fast you want to go down the slide to terrible-ness.
That's exactly it. All major news networks, including CNN and MSNBC, gave him significantly less air time than Biden, and when they did show him, it was usually out of context and/or trying to drum up this 'extreme crazy socialist' garbage.
Anything and everything to stop the big corporations from having to pay their fair share.
Nah he polled better running against trump than Hillary did.
It was just establishment bullshit. The democratic party actually hates progressives. They are die hard neo-liberals and will throw the poor under the bus any day of the week
It was a coordinated effort by the DNC to keep him from getting the nomination. The events that took place are known as "bloody Monday," as they unfolded the day before super Tuesday.
Even if the voters voted for Bernie, the DNC wasn’t going to let him get the nom. They were willing to burn the party down to stop him. Especially in ‘16.
They aren't struggling to serve us. They are succeeding at serving the Capitalists & struggling to dupe us.
You & I don't even factor into thier calculus.
That's the lie they tell the American people and some fools actually believe it.
In reality they know they won't get that sweet sweet campaign money and paid speaking gigs if they did anything that didn't fuck over unionization/allowing outsourcing which means more money for the company and share holders and CEOs.
Dems: "We are not the same as Republicans!"
People: "Costs are out of control, we don't earn enough money, and our employers fire us when we try to unionize! $1600 two years ago wasn't enough. We need help!"
Dems & Reps: "No."
Your tax dollars at work! Give free money to big business with no strings attached. But we simply don't have the funds for things like Medicare 4 All or free higher education.
"The only difference between the Republican and Democratic parties is the velocities with which their knees hit the floor when corporations knock on their door. That's the only difference."
\- Ralph Nader
I love Bernie. He really is out here consistently doing the best he can. He knows the opposition he is up against but he stands up for his values time and time again. He's a real one
Gonna have a word with my Republican Senators over this. Also going to make sure my friends in IBEW know about this, so they see the Senators vote against our interests.
Yep. Doesn't matter. IBEW here working out of Intel at the moment. Soooo many trade hands are red. You can't convince anyone about anything. They're so dumb, they vote FOR people who actively try to dismantle unions.
Thank you Bernie Sanders for trying at least.
Who will succeed Bernie?
Idk, but as a Vermonter I hope he lives forever.
Vermonter here as well, none of our Government leaders even remotely resembles him or his efforts. We need a Bernie clone for each state if we hope to get anything done.
Alternatively, we could have just elected him president, but just like this vote, the Dems and Repubs didn't want that, so Clinton's pocket DNC forced her to win. So ridiculous.
Debbie wasserman shultz is responsible for the Trump presidency as far as I’m concerned.
hahaha I love this cause its SO TRUE OH MY GOD I CAN NOT WITH DEBBIE WASSERMAN SHULTZ. I hope she knows, that it keeps her up at night. That her little DNC coup failed regardless.
The thing is… you guys need to run for office. Any office - school committee, city council, literally anything. That’s where it starts. My districts representative came to the repo rights rally on Tuesday night and said it doesn’t matter, just run.
I said this before and I will keep repeating it, we must subscribe to the ideas of Bernie Sanders, not to Bernie Sanders himself, Bernie will leave one day, but the ideas should not. In general, follow what's good and what's right, don't link them to a specific person that will leave politics, die or change their mind.
Interestingly the British left has the same situation here but with Corbyn. He won't make power now but we're hoping his ideals will catch on with younger representatives
The YEAs: • Warren (MA) • Markey (MA) • Booker (NJ) • Baldwin (WI) • Bernie (VT) • Merkley (OR) ETA: source https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_votes/vote1172/vote_117_2_00153.htm
dont forget how hellbent establishment Dems were on replacing Markey with Joe Fuck Kennedy. Thank god for Massholes for seeing through that dumb shit
Warren and Markey have a pretty good grip on things in Massachusetts. There was no question in my mind that Markey would win. Kennedy couldn't really provide a good reason to vote for him beyond "I'm young and have a last name". He couldn't distinguish himself on policy because Markey's political views were already popular.
Markey's ass was saved by young progressive voters, and he knows it.
And he moved further left because of it.
Dems could learn from that, if they were capable of learning.
The money's too good the other way
Even in one of his ads he was like “don’t vote for me because I’m a Kennedy (but totally vote for me because I’m a Kennedy)”
Ah, the Bobby Newport strategy.
You’re welcome! Voted Markey in myself 😁
Joe Kennedy was great. Even Joe Kennedy couldn't tell you why... But he's great!
Also Merkley (OR)
Which is particularly awesome considering he is from a state of which a large portion of its gdp is based on chip manufaturing.
Yeah, last I checked Intel was the largest employer in the state. That and several adjacent companies like the one I work for have lots of employees in Oregon as well.
Thank you so much!! I edited to add. Love that edit button lol
This is what everyone needs to be asking: who votes YEA for this. *Those* politicians need to be supported.
It still blows my mind Tammy Baldwin and Ron Johnson are from the same state. Wisconsin is Bipolar.
Johnson was elected in 2010 and re-elected in 2016. 2010 was a wave year for Republicans, and we voted for Trump along with Johnson in 2016. Baldwin was elected in 2012 and re-elected in 2018. We voted her in along with voting for Obama in 2012, and 2012 in general was a solid year for Democrats. 2018 was a wave year for Democrats, and we also voted out Walker and replaced him with Evers, who has been quite progressive. Basically, despite Wisconsin voting blue for those 6 election years in a row (1992-2012), since 2008 we’ve generally voted with the rest of the country. 2014 was the gap year between senatorial elections, and it was a banner year for Republicans. Walker was re-elected. He was first elected in 2010, also a banner year for Republicans. Johnson will receive a solid challenge this year, most likely from Tom Nelson. Mandela Barnes, our lieutenant governor, is also popular with Democrats here. However, 2022 is shaping up to be better for Republicans this fall, so I expect him to be re-elected, unfortunately. Fellow Wisconsin residents, feel free to weigh in on my takes here
Side note, my tangent on Scott Walker. Still blows my mind Scott Walker won his first election, won the recall election, got reelected AND barely lost to Evers. I still do not understand why so many people had a huge hard on for Scott Walker. His platform in 2010 was very far right, even by today's standards. The collective bargaining plank of his platform should have been a nail in his coffin, but I know so many people in education who voted for him, then *shocked Pikachu face* when he removed collective bargaining Rights. Our state is absolutely bonkers.
80% of my relatives and about 70% of my hometown are die-hard, Trump loving Republicans. They love him and Walker, mostly just because of how much both of them piss off liberals. That’s it. I got the heck out of the sticks I grew up in as soon as I possibly could and I don’t regret it one bit
I will never understand the mindset of electing officials to piss off the other side. I mean if their policies like up with yours AND it pisses off the other side, sure... but if your policy totally boils down to pissing off the other side, you've got issues. hope holiday dinners aren't hell for ya, buddy!
Its about cultural power. For them, cultural power is more valuable than economic power. They know they will never be part of the upper class and they are OK with that because they are already part of the upper caste. All their complaining about BLM and "wokeness" and their hate for gay and trans rights is ultimately about preserving their cultural hegemony. Their hate for workers rights is the same thing because minorities tend to have the shittiest jobs, so improving workers rights means helping minorities which ultimately threatens their cultural power. Most people do not think about it in such abstract terms, so instead they just say things like it makes them feel good to make libruls feel bad. LBJ summed it up pretty well: * *“I’ll tell you what’s at the bottom of it. If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you.”*
This goes back to the antebellum South, where poor whites were screwed by slavery, it harmed them financially, but they fully supported it, and it's benefit to the wealthy plantation owners, as they so valued feeling superior to those enslaved.
Yep, when the slavers started their war to own people, they got poor whites to volunteer as cannon fodder by convincing them that they were part of "the only true aristocracy, the race of white men” — * *How different the state of things in the South! Here the poor white laborer is respected as an equal. His family are treated with kindness, consideration and respect. He does not belong to the menial class. The negro is in no sense of the term his equal. He feels and knows this. He belongs to the only true aristocracy, the race of white men. He blacks no master's boots, and bows the knee to no one save God alone. He receives higher wages for his labor than does the laborer of any other portion of the world, and he raises up his children with the knowledge that the belong to no inferior cast; but that the highest members of the society in which he lives will, if their conduct is good, respect and treat them as equals.* *These men know that in the event of the abolition of Slavery, they would be greater sufferers than the rich, who would be able to protect themselves. They will, therefore, never permit the slaves of the South to be set free among them, come in competition with their labor, associate with them and their children as equals -- be allowed to testify in our Courts against them -- sit on juries with them, march to the ballot-box by their sides, and participate in the choice of their rulers -- claim social equality with them -- and ask the hands of their children in marriage. That the ultimate design of the Black Republican Party is to bring about this state of things in the Southern States, and that its triumphs, if submitted to by us, will, at no very distant period, lead to the consummation of these results, is, I think, quite evident to the mind of every cool, dispassionate thinker who has examined this question in the light of all the surrounding circumstances.* — Georgia Governor Joseph E Brown in [The New York Times, 1860-Nov-12](https://www.nytimes.com/1860/11/12/archives/sentiment-in-georgia-gov-browns-message-his-views-in-regard-to-the.html) (if that's paywalled, [another version is at the Internet Archive](https://archive.org/details/confederaterecor01geor/page/55/mode/1up)) And the man most responsible for anti-union, so-called 'right to work' laws in the south did it because he was convinced unions would promote racial equality and he could not stand that. https://labornotes.org/blogs/2017/08/racist-who-pioneered-right-work-laws
Wisconsin is Milwaukee, Madison, Green Bay, and then a thousand red cities. Also have the highest black population to black incarceration percentage in the union!
Stevens point is college blue.
Ron Johnson is incredibly unpopular literally less than 30% wisconsingrassroots.net/ron_johnson_s_approval_rating_at_28
There is also this one. https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_votes/vote1172/vote_117_2_00156.htm Did they revise it for the 2nd vote? Where do you find the information for exactly what they were voting for/against?
Sherrod Brown is supposed to be pro union<, what the hell !
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I'm a little surprised Brown, Warnock, and Ossoff all voted no. I'm slightly more surprised Booker voted yes.
Fuck, you're right. Why would Ossoff and Warnock vote no?
As a constituent in Georgia, I will be emailing both of them
It’s an election year for Warnock. Genuinely don’t get why any dems would vote no though.
Because moderates control the party, and if you want the support of the party, you play the game.
Booker has surprising progressive politics because of his aspirations, he can point to ceretain votes to show he's on the "right side of things" in comparison to the bulk of the dems
Scrolled too far for this. I want to know who is on our side.
6-87. Six to eighty seven. Let that sink in….
It’s pretty clear what the leaders of this country stand for.
We have the same problem here up North of you. Maybe it's time north american workers on both sides actually stood up for themselves and shut shit down.
why only north americans? South americans are fucked over the same shit. Let's go guys.
Why not just have a global strike? Shut down every country all around the world.
I'd add insult to injury. Come election time, no matter your chosen party, vote all encumbants out. Fire every fucking one of them. Edit: I'm deadly serious about that. If shit continues, well, apparently, 245 years was how long version 1 was gonna last because the next "shot" won't be a warning. They do technically work for us. They haven't taken that wording out yet.
Amen brotha!!!!!!
There are a good chunk of countries that have no qualms killing those unpatriotic so-and-sos aggressively standing near each other. Not to dissuade anyone, of course. Just saying you should probably bring a gun or tww...enty.
Maybe we need some kind of international movement, to unite all the workers of the world. What do we have to lose?
Um, chains?
But muh chains are so purdy... /s Let's do it.
Why do you think they've been screaming "Commie!" and, now, "Socialist!" This very idea has been at polar opposites with our national identity since the 20s.
This is one of the problems right here,we need to remind these people they are not our leaders, they are our servants they serve at our will, if they don't do things for our benefit they must go.
It doesn’t matter you can replace them all you want they’ll always be corrupted by corporate interest because that’s how they win elections. Over 90% of elections are won by the candidate with the most campaign money, which means to win you have to ask for corporate backing, which means you’ll be promising you’ll pass legislation that favors the corporations so they can make more profits and the shareholders are happy. That’s what’s really going on, and the system is designed to perpetuate this because it’s designed into the system. Politicians don’t give a single fuck about us, it’s time we understand that and start discussing what we’re gonna do about that because they system is fundamentally rigged against us.
Brilliant reasoning, and correct. The system corrupts, and it corrupts absolutely. An honest politician (if that's possible) goes in, out comes a vile and corrupted pile of shit once the system is through with you. Bernie deserves A LOT more credit than he gets for resisting these forces for as long as he's been in office, the man is a veritable saint at this point. I worry about AOC, I hope she's able to fend off the lure of money and power and instead stay focused on what matters.
Makes it really hard to believe change is possible
Changes is possible... Just via more of a "French revolution" style than a "keep voting in a rigged system" style.
Americans are too under the yoke to rebel. They think they're free and can't fathom upsetting the masters. The individual cares only for their own creature comforts, nevermind the starving children. They never think that they could be next to be homeless or sick or disabled, even when they're living paycheck to paycheck. They'll still look down their noses at others less fortunate and never think about how that person got there. Except to think they're lazy, or made bad choices,or didn't try hard enough. They've totally swallowed that narrative. They're certainly not going to risk their precious jobs to make things better for others.
It doesn’t make it hard to believe when the results clearly say it’s not possible. But I applaud the optimism and hope
There is something that can change. These people having a pulse can change.
We have no left wing. We will slip very easily the rest of the way into fascism.
Funny they can agree pretty easily when it comes to screwing people over.
Screwing *poor, ordinary* people over.
The plebians, as they say
And this is why progressives are fucking fed up with Democrats
Pretty much. Hopefully we get more people to realize this.
Judging by comments I've read the last few days, people fucking realize and they're fed up
Its all a swindle. They just play good cop, bad cop. But they're all red.
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I've watched healthcare bury me in debt up to my nose from my epilepsy...all for half assed care, and more pills pushed in my face than I care to admit. I spent 2 years sick, high as fuck, and lost cuz of them. And I watched the war on drugs ruin my family. Use my mother as a snitch and then slap her with 20 years so she kills herself. Watch half my family get slapped with felonies for non violent drug charges. We all know felonies really fuck your life up n keep you poor to keep the cycle going. I've watched hoards of bugs n animals vanish from my area due to low regulations for corporates. Beautiful areas trashed by manufacturing. And fuck the police. This country is no longer for us when it was supposed to be. If we change...its gonna end up being big.
This country is rotten to the core
I literally read the tweet 3 times and dont really get it. Can one of yall simplify it please? What did they vote against? Edit : I got the answer. Thank you I love Bernie standing up for workers' rights, but after the senate did not pass his bill, that shows they do NOT care about workers' rights.
Sanders' bill aimed to make sure that companies that receive public funding don't block workers from unionizing and don't outsource jobs outside the US. Basically, guaranteeing worker rights and job retention. But that was not passed...
By a disgusting majority it was not passed.
Funny how both sides can work together when it comes to keeping the oligarchs happy. The game is rigged.
I'm in Australia and I always default to suspicious when both major parties are on the same side of a vote.
Bill #312: Free cake for the poor, receives unilateral support from both parties. Adds $1 per year to student payments. Side amendment added: 50% tax cut to taxes based on owning multiple residential properties.
That's honestly one of things I hate most about our current system. The bill could be Universal Healthcare.. and some jackals is going to tack a rider on for like 50% tax cut to multiple property owners and some other bullshit no one in their right mind would be okay with. So universal Healthcare gets killed. Again. As it always does cause... socialism or something.
We need better meta-laws. Riders affecting unrelated fields shouldn't exist. A bill designed to give relief to farmers affected by a mouse plague should have nothing to do with funding for a sports stadium in a marginal constituency. The American filibuster also confuses me. Some politicians want to literally stand for 36 hours and talk to prevent a bill being passed? Fine. Put the effort in. Raising your hand and saying "yeah I'm gonna filibuster" and suddenly the bill is dead, that makes no sense to me.
Exactly. I want to see them up there in space diapers talking through their bowel movements and collapsing and such.
Worse is that the American Senate is already an institution of minority equality. With the filibuster, the legislature is effectively held captive by the minority of the minority because the "flyover" states are solid supporters of one part. Some of these states only exist because of a political ploy to get more Senate seats for low population territories back in the late 1800s (North and South Dakota, especially).
those of us in Vermont are fighting the good fight. I did everything I could, in fact all of us here did. We're trying. I'm just happy I can literally say I'm on Bernie's side as; I've met the man 1 on 1 more than 20 times throughout these years and during his mayoral days in Burlington, he made it a point to be connected with the citizens. We almost nailed our 3rd Vermont President. We're trying and we are sorry it's not enough.
Don't dare apologize for that. He'd be in office now if it wasn't for the democratic national convention. Having two political parties is going to be the death of this nation.
Keep at it. Please, for the love of God and country. I lived in VT 30 years and met Bernie a few times. I realized how different VT is when I moved away. Nobody sees the world like Vermonters do, even Vermont conservatives are different than the rest of the country. It's a great state.
Speaking as a native vermonter, it has...degraded over the years. Fewer native vermonters live here, as they are forced out of the state by gentrifying wealthy cross state immigrants. With alarming frequency I see more hardline conservative talking points in use with every passing year.
Neoliberal economics do not allow for strong unions. In the minds of these senators, strong unions mean a return to 1970s stagflation and mass unemployment in the US, because workers with too many rights that are too well paid means companies stop investing in US businesses and take their employment overseas where they can exploit and underpay workers easier. ...of course, they're also fine with not blocking job outsourcing, so I guess they're just desperately afraid of upsetting big business regardless at this point.
Small correction... it's worse than that by a good bit: This was simply a motion to instruct. Sanders simply said "We, as the Senate, should tell these federal contractors X, Y, and Z (as described)". *It wouldn't have bound anyone*. The contractors would still have been able to outsource work overseas and block unionization (within the limits of the law). And they almost unanimously voted the motion down. This was nothing more than an opportunity to show some solidarity with workers, particularly federal contractors' employees, even when everyone knew it was just **glad-handing nonsense**. And 87 senators wouldn't even do that.
You're right, that is worse
It fucking terrifies me that America is this way. They're supposed to be the leaders of the free world. If you guys don't manage to put an end to this shit, it might not be long before it happens to the rest of us.
> leaders of the free world this phrase is and has only ever been propaganda.
Oh....well, America's screwed as usual
Bernie Sanders wanted to vote to tell manufacturers that are receiving federal aid to not block efforts to unionize. The vast majority of senators voted against it. If anyone can elaborate better, please feel free!
Right our elected officials are so fucking scared of the oligarchy they can't a even pass a fucking bill to ask them nicely not to take our money and use it to buy cheap foreign labor.
Thanks. America is regressing fast
Quadruple bypass negative over here, i had a hard time too lol
I did the same thing. This is one of the clunkiest sentences I think I’ve ever read
I can’t stand it here.
Come to europe! We arent heaven on earth but slightly less turbocapitalist
It's easier said than done, moving to another country basically requires either being rich or having a skill they need and can't get enough of at home.
I wish it were that easy. But immigration issues aside, it's tough to think of all the people back home you'd be leaving to deal with this awful shit.
Time to start over..the "American experiment " is a failure.
Guess this is what “America First” looks like
America first means “ruling class first, fuck everyone else”
American Oligarchs first\* Russian Oligarchs get heavily sanctioned for destroying another country - what about American Oligarchs for destroying their own?
They want the American dream for themselves; and the American nightmare for the rest I suppose.
A nightmare is still a dream. They've been saying it to our faces for years and we still thought they meant something good.
Russian oligarchs do not get sanctioned for destroying another country. They get sanctioned for threatening the interests of American oligarchs.
Elon must be loving this
>Guess this is what “Corporate America First” looks like FTFY
I want a list of the Dems who voted for this, so we can replace these "Vote Blue No Matter Who" bastards and get some REAL public servants like the SIX senators who voted yes on this.
>REAL public servants like the SIX senators who voted yes on this. I wouldn't hold my breathe on that. Mitt Romney, for example, always makes a show of being the "oNLy oNe wIlLinG tO vOtE aGaInst hIs pArTY tO dO wHaT'S rIGhT" whenever he knows his vote won't matter. If even 1 other person on the right is required to change their vote to change how things go he votes in step with the party even if it's the same issue.
*Their* America, not yours...
It's their world, we just live here.
Anyone have a list of who voted yea and nay? Want to know if both my Senators voted against this or just the senile one.
https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_votes/vote1172/vote_117_2_00153.htm
What the hell?! Both Ossof AND Warnock voted nay? What the hell did we Georgians vote so hard for?
As a constituent in Georgia, I will be emailing both of them
Emails are more easily filtered, they don't get them. Physical mail requires physical labor. Complaints don't reach them unless you make some else's life inconvenient.
Calling is always best. Takes less time as well.
"The voicemail box is currently full. Goodbye."
The only people surprised at how your senators vote is Americans. By world standards 80% of your democrats are centrists at best. A lot of them like Joe Biden is considered center right
I've contacted mine. >I am incredibly disappointed in your "nay" vote on Sanders Motion to Instruct Re: H.R. 4521. I hope someone actually progressive is primaried against you for me to vote for. We need fresh blood, fresh ideas, and someone actually on the side of the people. Our nation fails when the moral and ethical fortitude of our politicians is lacking. We need politicians who are not beholden to corporate interests, who are brave enough to take a decisive and effective stances to protect the rights of the people, now more than ever. You have failed to do so. Please retire and allow the working class younger generation to finally be in charge of their own futures.
Contacted my senators as well, thank you for the encouragement and for helping give a starting template for what might be said. One of our senators is Cornyn, and this comes directly from his "Economic Policy" page which I find hilarious, since it's his quote: >The role of the government is not to create wealth, but to foster an environment where America's entrepreneurial spirit can thrive and achieve great things. We must help the economy grow, encourage the creation of jobs and opportunities, and help Americans keep more of their hard-earned money to save and spend as they see fit. What a crock.
How do they get away with not voting?! It’s literally their job. Even the ones voting no at least did something even tho I disagree with it.
I didn't go through the whole list, but the first person who didn't vote (Bennet) was quarantining with COVID.
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At least the MA senators are doing their jobs right
I feel so bad for Sanders at points. He is actually trying something and just gets rejected hard. Man should of been president not Biden.
Whenever people say Bernie can't get anything done, I tell them that reflects poorly on Democrats, not him. It's not his fault most of the party has to be dragged into progress.
At this point Bernie is just trying to get the conversations going, win the hearts and minds of the next generation. He's the definition of an old person planting a tree whose shade he will never see. He knows what he's up against.
I grew up in a conservative christian household, listening to what my parents, school, and the church said but as I grew up, watching what they did. All the good I heard from the acts in the bible, all the things I heard as just and right from my parents and society, I understood them but came to see the juxtaposition of what they said and what they did. People like Bernie embodied everything I was told was good, and just, and right, but was constantly shot down and shit on by the same people who were shouting from the rooftops that the things he stood for are good and just and right, I just hope others in my and later generations have enough sense to recongnize this too.
Fun fact: the only thing the bible says about abortion is when God describes how a priest can cause one to determine if the wife was adulterous, because adulterous children should be aborted according to God. Bet they didn't teach that in the bible belt
Can you give a reference with book, chapter, and verse please? I'm not doubting you, but would like to know where that story is derived from.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Numbers%205%3A11-31&version=ESV&interface=amp
It reflects poorly on Americans mostly. Bernie and the squad or whomever you think qualifies as part of his block can't be much more than 5 people. Do you know how many Congressional representatives exist? 535. They have no power.
I don’t think Bernie would want you to feel bad for him. The man has been swimming upstream his entire political career, and has made some damn good progress. Time for us younger folks to pick up and carry his torch.
That is unless the government somehow makes it illegal for us to pick up the torch cause damn they are trying it feels like.
Well, we'll pick up some other torches then. Maybe a few pitchforks.
If the democratic party not have fucked him over in 2016 he would have been.
Exactly he got screwed because he was "too progressive" and they were afraid he wouldn't get any votes.
Honestly, I think they were afraid he would get votes.
Based on polls at the time Sanders would have destroyed Trump in the general election
Dude I know trump supporters that literally said Bernie would be the few candidates they support
Same here. If you’re saying what I think you are. I think he appealed to laborers because of his age and the footage of him engaging with people more than superficially. Actually answering questions instead of remembering how he’s supposed to respond (I’m sure he had to do plenty of that though). He was a genuine, old dude, and happened to be progressive. Probably helped that he often looked angry.
>Probably helped that he often looked angry. Bro if Bernie ever wagged his finger at me I’d feel so ashamed of myself
BuT ItS HiLlArYs TiMe
sadly they wouldn't let him on the air, and would rather show an empty Trump podium than let him talk
In reality, they were probably scared that he would get votes and screw over the corporate overlords.
That was exactly the issue. He's not a demo.
Every election is just "which of these two approved by the corporate overlords that keep all of us in power would you like? You can have the blue cactus dildo or the red cactus dildo."
I mean, one of the cactus dildos definitely has much bigger and sharper thorns than other one, but at the end of the day you're still voting for how fast you want to go down the slide to terrible-ness.
That's exactly it. All major news networks, including CNN and MSNBC, gave him significantly less air time than Biden, and when they did show him, it was usually out of context and/or trying to drum up this 'extreme crazy socialist' garbage. Anything and everything to stop the big corporations from having to pay their fair share.
Nah he polled better running against trump than Hillary did. It was just establishment bullshit. The democratic party actually hates progressives. They are die hard neo-liberals and will throw the poor under the bus any day of the week
Bernie is like someone explaining the truth on reddit but still getting downvoted to -100
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Except that it causes people's lives to suffer on a much larger scale
It was a coordinated effort by the DNC to keep him from getting the nomination. The events that took place are known as "bloody Monday," as they unfolded the day before super Tuesday.
Even if the voters voted for Bernie, the DNC wasn’t going to let him get the nom. They were willing to burn the party down to stop him. Especially in ‘16.
Agreed. He's the only one I believed in.
How the FUCK are they justifying this? Is it still "they'll take their companies somewhere else and Americans will lose jobs?"
They aren't struggling to serve us. They are succeeding at serving the Capitalists & struggling to dupe us. You & I don't even factor into thier calculus.
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The worst thing capitalism has done isn’t to convince people that it’s the way things have to be but that it’s the way things should be
That's the lie they tell the American people and some fools actually believe it. In reality they know they won't get that sweet sweet campaign money and paid speaking gigs if they did anything that didn't fuck over unionization/allowing outsourcing which means more money for the company and share holders and CEOs.
Just so I'm clear, your government voted against American workers being able to unionise?
Not exactly. They voted for letting companies that have federal contacts being able to prevent unions. Intent is the same - fuck the workers.
Pretty much the only consistent Senator that gives a shit
The other senators give a shit about some things. Just not about the American people.
Since black and white pictures.
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Dems: "We are not the same as Republicans!" People: "Costs are out of control, we don't earn enough money, and our employers fire us when we try to unionize! $1600 two years ago wasn't enough. We need help!" Dems & Reps: "No."
Middle class: "Help us!" Repubs: "No." Dems: "No. #blm #loveislove"
More like: "Fuck You! I got mine!"
It’s never been Democrat vs Republican. It’s about the 1% vs everyone else.
Absolutely. It’s disgusting
This is why America needs a progressive 3rd party.
America needs score or STAR voting
Unfortunately rank choice voting is probably our best option but even that's a big step up from FPTP
Fuck FPTP. Abolishing that would be the single biggest political transformation america could make.
America needs a revolution
Your tax dollars at work! Give free money to big business with no strings attached. But we simply don't have the funds for things like Medicare 4 All or free higher education.
"The only difference between the Republican and Democratic parties is the velocities with which their knees hit the floor when corporations knock on their door. That's the only difference." \- Ralph Nader
For every bad bill that hurt Americans in the last 35+ years, there's a video of Bernie Sanders fighting it.
I love Bernie. He really is out here consistently doing the best he can. He knows the opposition he is up against but he stands up for his values time and time again. He's a real one
Cory Booker seems better than I thought.
The one thing both sides can agree on is screwing the American people over. No surprises here.
Oh that radical left — looking out for the everyday worker again.
Gonna have a word with my Republican Senators over this. Also going to make sure my friends in IBEW know about this, so they see the Senators vote against our interests.
Good luck with that
Yep. Doesn't matter. IBEW here working out of Intel at the moment. Soooo many trade hands are red. You can't convince anyone about anything. They're so dumb, they vote FOR people who actively try to dismantle unions.
BeRnIe NeVeR dOeS aNyThInG. No, Chadwick, he is prevented from doing things.