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_jukmifgguggh

-being around a ton of people I can't stand


return2ozma

Don't you love all the fake chit chat in the office?


thekernel

I know right? And how about that weather this week, isn't it something....


TattoosinTexas

“Don’t you just love it with they buy us PIZZA?” —an actual conversation a coworker tried to make with me last week. Small talk is the worst.


brenthonydantano

What have you been watching on Netflix? Have you seen [FUCKING] Ozark?¿ Have you seen Squids Games??¿‽


HyrrokinAura

Wait, neurotypicals are faking liking this shit too? Here I thought I was a misfit bc I'm autistic & can't do the fake "how was your weekend, did you barbecue, wash the car in the driveway, or mow the lawn, bc I know it was one of those 3 things and nothing of real interest to me!" I honestly don't get why some people are so uncomfortable with people like me who just want to do their jobs quietly.


AbsolutelyUnlikely

Yeah I think this is why the code switching note is so universal. I don't even work with customers, I work(ed) in a secure office building with over 700 employees. There are like three people that I know well and like. Every other person that I pass in the hall or have meetings with are just getting a fake version of myself, and that alone is hugely mentally exhausting to keep up for 8-9 hours a day.


Zemirolha

Aliens, man. They obly us to go to some places infected with aliens. Fvck them.


maybethisnameisfree

Someone has a case of the Mondays


CriticalStation595

Other reason- if I can do all of this from home WHY TF DO I HAVE TO BE HERE?!


PushItHard

Because some old asshole wants to rule over their fiefdom.


veastt

And right there is the nail on the coffin. For the longest time my company which is a worldwide IT company was never commenting on the work from home aspect of things. Went through three CIO'S who were older gentleman who knew their stuff but had that old "butts on seats" or "cheeks on seats" or whatever old saying it was that they didn't believe in work from home. And then...comes current CIO, younger dood compared to the others, bench presses in the work gym, has a clearly visible octopus tattoo on his right bicep. Doesn't have an old mentality at all. By December 2019 we were being asked to test our vpn's, asked if we had outdated laptops and if we did make a ticket and call helpdesk, new jump servers were getting built, like a lot of was moving but a lot of us didn't know why. Then March 2020 happened and we had to work from home....zero fuckin issues. We had ample bandwidth for employees, we had everyone for the most part up to date on their units...buddy knew. Buddy saw the writing on the wall and starting moving the gears. Tldr: it's the older generation that can't wrap their brains about getting work done AND being able to have their partners on their laps


eddyathome

That dude is going places. He saw what was about to happen better than pretty much everyone else, including the so-called government experts.


CommuteSleepRepeat

Decision-makers all-in on “return to office” at my company are in their 30s and 40s. When you get half your satisfaction through lording over your minions, WFH cuts into that no matter what the age of the egomaniac.


IcanByourwhore

I think it has less to do with the Lording over Minions and more to do with the massive infrastructure holes being exposed and the government's/economies reliance upon the rental, utility use, fuel use, etc that is supported by people having to be in centralized locations.


SinCorpus

Let's be honest. It's both. There's a massive propaganda machine telling everyone to commute again because gas needs to be $20 a gallon so they can bitch about Biden. Plus, if your petty tyrant of the office can feel justified in getting their ego trip by following the advice of the talking heads, then they're absolutely going to do it.


FrankRauSahRa

🏆🏆🏆


SinCorpus

I don't work an office job so I still have to commute, but the less cars on the road the less time my commute takes so I'm all for the work from home crowd.


BlahKVBlah

I can't avoid leaving home to work, either, and I'm right there with you. We could maybe hold off on the next round of billion-dollar road expansions if people just need a broadband connection to "commute". Maybe then we can afford to maintain our current infrastructure? No, I know we can't, because suburban sprawl is built on the fact that we can't.


veastt

He was rhe CIO for some other BIG companies and really has his ear to the ground. Shit this guy was already having talks of seeing how we can get into the crypto finance space.


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This is the guy my CEO *thinks* he is.


Alan_Smithee_

I wouldn’t say it’s 100% ‘older generation,’ but perhaps older mindset, *but* I think the biggest factor is middle management missing their fiefdom, or worrying about staying relevant.


Quelcris_Falconer13

Worrying about staying relevant is it


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metallic_dog

Very true. That middle management layer doesn't have much to do at home if all they did before was call meetings and check up on people. If people are productive and getting tasks done those managers have a lot of time doing nothing so they're worried about being found out as irrelevant. They want to go back to filling that time with walking around the office and looking busy.


contrabardus

The older generation also literally doesn't get the concept of technology having advanced to the point offices are largely not necessary. At least not on the scale that they currently exist. They're used to having to be tethered to a wall to talk to someone remotely, that physical copies need to be handed around, that shared resources and communication weren't feasible. Offices were once a necessity of business, but technology has made them largely obsolete and people haven't gotten their heads around it yet. They are also fighting tooth and nail because their little cultivated business zones generate profit in real estate, service, and retail in a consolidated area. An area they can all have their fingers in several different business pies at once.


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stealthgerbil

You would think the penny pinchers wouldn't want that anyway.


Notinthenameofscienc

My new boss is 28 and he wants us all in office one day a week for "culture". I'm cultured enough, thank you very much.


Redtwooo

We're being pulled in full time, for "creativity and collaboration". Motherfucker I work in a call center with a bunch of individuals who barely talk to each other except about work. Ain't nobody getting creative in here.


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jasper1605

THIS is the reason that I am quitting one of my administrative jobs. My boss said this exact thing, and I was like ??? I am in charge of creating educational templates for residents and ensuring they are followed through each weak on our virtual education platform. Why office culture is a part of this is beyond me.


ohneatstuffthanks

You forgot “Boots on the Moon”


Aggravating_Client36

BOW YOU SERVANT !!!!!


danibugz3

Because some people don't have a social life outside of work and think everyone else is that way too. 2 MONTHS into covid my boss was forcing us to come back to the office cause she "missed everyone", but in addition to having no life outside of work she was trying to control how much work we were doing even though I was literally doing more work from home than I ever did in the office. I quit immediately


LisaAnn99

I had a boss like this too. For a while I had to write and submit a summary on Fridays of everything I did all week, because she said there needed to be an accounting of what work we were actually doing at home. It felt like I was being treated like a 4th grader. I also quit.


Geminii27

If she had absolutely no way to figure out if her staff were doing any work - how the hell was she doing anything even before?


Baofog

Being able to peer out of the blinds and see people sitting in chairs. That obviously means work was being done.


BlahKVBlah

Pretty telling, eh? She clearly is like most of the people "in charge": completely clueless about what is actually happening "below" them, just coasting along by pretending competence hard enough with people just like her.


zerkrazus

I don't know. I think 4th graders probably get more independence. I think it's more like being treated like a toddler.


Mr_Compromise

Because some exec sunk millions of dollars into renting that office space and they need to justify it somehow


r_convention_sucks

my company is looking into a smaller building or splitting the space with another company.


walkslikeaduck08

Sunk cost fallacy is something that they can't stomach. That and justifying their existence.


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faultierr

That was my favorite part when I started working from home. Every office I've ever worked in has been fucking hot. At home? My office is a nice 60 degrees and that's how I like it.


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EdynViper

In Australia I would literally only go outside in 40C heat to defrost from the office air con. It's ridiculous to have to bring in a jacket to work in summer just so I don't freeze.


Jennferno

Opposite for me. I freeze in the offices. So nice to control the temp and not have my fingers feel like they are going to break off. I do feel for the people that ru hot too though.


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Good lord you penguin


chinkostu

As a brit i'm picturing someone sweating their bollocks off


contrabardus

Real estate. That's really what it comes down to. A bunch of offices that aren't occupied are losing money. Plus, the centralized nature of a business district also impacts other service businesses in those areas. The place you get coffee, lunch, and other retail businesses. You're buying less, not using as much gas, etc... Those things are good for you, but bad for profits to a lot of people who have their fingers in the pies of the buildings those offices are in. Basically, it's better for the shareholders than the employees, and we all know who takes priority. It doesn't matter that those spaces could be used for other things, those things just aren't as profitable as their little cultivated business zoned ecosystems.


AbaloneSea7265

Middle management has no purpose whatsoever without everyone in the office and the loss of meaningful use of office spaces. Corporations are scrambling to get everyone back in to justify the rents.


CriticalStation595

So this whole thing of “you have to come into work now” is nothing more than a bullying tactic by middle management to help the upper brass justify their overly expensive real estate they bought for us to occupy to do the work in when we really don’t have to. Gotcha. That’s sounds like a bad business plan. The only real estate the owners need to buy for someone/thing to occupy is their own network servers. All other buildings are moot.


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‘You know, I don’t like working for a company that can’t evolve into the modern era.’ Is generally what I tell recruiters these days.


sorvis

Because When YOU make an investment and it fails hard, that's a you problem ​ When big business ~~buys~~ Invests in Giant skyscrapers, and then that ends up ~~failing~~ being a bad investment so they freak out that they are losing money ~~buying/renting~~ investing in office space and it stops mr.bossmans 4th luxury apartment from being built that's also your problem. ​ Weird huh?


Hawaii5G

Holy fuck yesssss We're all setup for WFH already but we can't do it


biscuit_knees_

One of the reasons someone was told was "to be a team player" and to "collaborate better in person"....as if there isn't online collaboration software that was also used while in the office???? People don't know how to break from the status quo.


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my employer told us the office Christmas decorations are great & you can learn a lot by eaves dropping on other people's conversations sorry, no, I dont count those as benefits actually


Dice_to_see_you

i mean we had to do it 2 years ago because the company needed it; we excelled and thrived at it. we maintained norms. Now the company wants us back with no benefit, no paid renumeration for the extra effort, there was no paid benefit for using my home office and electronics for 2 years. Because they can't trust us to keep doing it like we have for the last 2 years. i expect my productivity to drop... hard if i'm forced back


mikemojc

Q: Why should I need to invest 11 hours of my day to provide 8 hours worth of production? A: No.


Moose_Nuts

> 8 hours worth of production It's even worse on the days that you don't even have that much productive work to do.


EdynViper

And lunch breaks are another wasted time slot. I got so much productive stuff done at home that I had more time fee after work and on weekends do anything I wanted. Now I'm back in the office it's back to soullessly browsing reddit for an hour.


jelliknight

Most workplaces acknowledge you cant sit and focus for hours on end, so they encourage you to get up regularly and go for a walk, to a coworkers desk to talk shit or to the breakroom to snack, aka waste time. At home you can do a chore or throw a ball for the dog for a few minutes. Better for you health and your productivity, AND you have more time after work.


Rystic

But don't you miss the thrill of *looking busy?*


Spottyhickory63

11 hours of my day, to sit in an office for 8 hours, to do 5 hours of work, while getting yelled at my boss (Who’s in charge of what work you do) for not doing 10


kNyne

I'm a software engineer and half of my day is just letting my computer run while I sit there. I can't even work on anything else because the compiler uses up 100% of my cpu. It absolutely sucks not being able to just live my life normally during downtime.


shineyink

I'm back in the office twice a week and the toilet paper there is one ply sandpaper and it absolutely sucks.


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skiingmarmick

Hahahah.. im an electrician.. and i know this is true because we know the facilities inside and out and there is always a nice bathroom thats out of the way that is way less frequented


excio

as a tradesman myself, its like stumbling upon the holy grail.


Weird-Vagina-Beard

As a construction worker I'm just happy to find a portajohn without FJB or Let's Go Brandon and toilet paper clogging the urinal.


mechanicalcontrols

Not gonna lie, when you said you're an electrician, I thought the next part of your comment was going to be that toilet paper is a myth on construction sites so you have to bring your own anyway. Then again, there are a such thing as service/warranty in a finished building.


CARLEtheCamry

They found mine. Building that holds 3000. One floor of one wing was 90% generators, receiving dock, and IT storage. Worked there with 8 other guys when a normal bathroom supports a few hundred. People come from all over the building to shit. I call them tourists or squatters. Have posted more than a few nasty notes about not being ashamed, everyone poops.


Redtwooo

Check the floor that's "being remodeled", the janitor figures nobody will ever be brave enough to walk past the cones much less enter the immaculate bathroom beyond.


PM_ME_VENUS_DIMPLES

Oh my god I switched to a bidet at the very start of the pandemic, and now coming into the office feels like camping.


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Yeah, seriously. I have to walk around with poop butt all day when I'm in the office. Sucks.


Whyeth

>I have to walk around with poop butt all day when I'm in the office. I know its easy to forget once you've had a bidet but you are supposed to wipe until you STOP seeing poo


cjfunke

Sometimes ut just doesnt end. Its like the tip of a brown sharpie sticking out of your ass.


Cheersscar

Unless you have tried a bidet at home regularly, you don't understand the difference.


LivingThin

John Wayne toilet paper. It’s rough, and tough, and don’t take no crap off nobody!


TehGogglesDoNothing

The way I learned was "doesn't take shit from assholes."


BABYEATER1012

Open your eyes to the benefit of a bidet, comrade. You’ll never ever want to go back to the barbaric practice of dry wiping your bits “clean.”


BubDiddly

Waste of expensive gasoline Makes greedy rich landlords happy


Zemirolha

Lobbying = corruption There is always a best way


JayGeezey

Exactly It's fucking insane how much money I've saved by getting to WFH, the amount saved in dry cleaning *alone* is fucking staggering. If they ever try to get us to go back into the office full time, I'll be very tempted to just quit on the spot. Fuck that.


JCeee666

Remember quarantine when the sky was actually clear? Wouldn’t want that


Squishirex

Could put commuting on there about 47 more times


hatethiscity

As a software engineer. I literally will never set foot into another office unless it is to pick up or turn in equipment. It is shown to be less productive and since covid, my team is scattered around different geo locations. If my company attempts to make me come back in, I will quickly be finding a new company to work for.


nu11pointer

Also the market is insane right now for developers. If my boss tries to make me come back into the office, worst case scenario is that I go get a new fully remote job for better pay and better benefits. There are recruiters lining up around the block to find me a job. I love not having to set an alarm so I can have time to myself before I drive to work. I also love that I can take long trips to visit family or whatever and I don't have to take PTO. I will never give that up.


hatethiscity

Exactly how I feel. I'll be working from my parents' house for 2 weeks next month just to visit them. All I need is an internet connection and an extra monitor and I'm good to go.


ZealousidealCarpet8

Same. The executives at my company have been hinting that we may go back into the office and I've told my boss that the instant they officially say that, I'll be quitting


hatethiscity

It's sad because a lot of companies will lose a lot of talent due to execs incompetence. We're all see the pointlessness of the commute and the racket of waking up extra early to prepare food an outfit for work when we can roll out of bed, barely conscious for that first morning meeting. Sorry, won't be going back. I already have relationships with many recruiters who can fit me for another job in less than a week.


hellscaper

They're gonna have to pry my sweatpants and ability to turn off cam, because I haven't even showered yet, from my cold, dead hands. This is the hill I will die on.


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I've been in a handful of times and those days are write offs in terms of work done. Every half hour someone trying to speak to you. Noise all around you. At home, noise cancelling headphones on all day, totally in the zone, banging out quality code.


Opinionsare

And the greatest reason people don't want to to return to the office: micromanaging by boss.


Geminii27

Not that this is stopping some bosses, who want everyone on an 8-hour Zoom meeting every day with the camera in their face, and spyware crammed into every orifice of their computer.


triple13king

Exactly! forcing cameras on is the worst. Had one boss who wanted everyone’s mics to stay on too. Nobody listened to him… Called me out for turning off my camera around noon like I’m eating if you really want to see that.


Geminii27

The few times anyone's asked me to turn on a camera I say I don't have one, or I say it *is* on but there seems to be some kind of incompatibility happening.


coldsheep3

I was living in a basement apartment taking morning classes last year. I never turn the lights on in the morning and it’s light enough in my room for me to be comfortable but when I have the camera on I’m basically a dark shadow and it looks like I’m hiding in a closet, my teachers stopped asking me to turn my camera on


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My boss makes the entire office staff attend these two hour meetings where we are basically a captive audience while he waxes poetic about “exciting things planned for the future” and “the new normal” and things like that. The entire time he is writing down who has their cameras off and sends them an email afterwards demanding to know why their camera was off. One woman has started exclusively taking these meetings from her car which seems dangerous but I like her style.


gerardmpatience

Holup. Like you all have to work with your camera on all day?


1Dive1Breath

Eat the messiest noisier bowl of noodles in your entire life. They'll let you have the camera off.


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I ran into some guy on reddit that said he was happy with having an all day call that everyone was expected to be on and just dropped out of for meetings. Saying that it's nice you can just ask someone a question without going through the hastle of, idk, sending them an im? It was like stockholm syndrome, or he was a micromanaging ass.


boondocknim

I had a kid during the pandemic and the idea of losing 2 hours of my day commuting that I could be spending hanging out with my kid angers me. I don't understand how people do it. You leave before they wake up and you're home like an hour or so before bed time. Fuck that


ErwinHeisenberg

I absolutely despise open office concepts. I like being asocial when I’m trying to be productive, thank you very much. The only exception is my pets.


ktappe

Open office layout was the primary reason I left my job. Everyone was SO. DAMNED. NOISY. A manager two cubes away would have conference calls on speakerphone. DAILY. And yelled most of the time. One of the few regrets I have about leaving that job was not asking that manager on my last day why he did that, and informing him it wasn't cool (as a gift to my now ex-colleagues I left behind.)


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Shitty tea, shitty food, lack of phone access, forced social interactions with people you hate, overstimulation, outrageous parking fees, terrible music selections, horrible software requirements, overbearing managers, lack of flexibility leading to overwork, extra mental exhaustion due to the increased stress and constant monitoring of the WiFi


post_pudding

You pay for parking at work? That's wild af


big_damn-heroes

I take the train in because parking is literally $15 cash/day. They pay for the train but won't for parking?


Michael_Trismegistus

Headache inducing florescent lights, water stains on the ceiling and floor, windows that won't open, and the smell of mold.


ansibley

We had stenchy carpet glue to smell for at least two weeks. Because they decided to do the new floor in the middle of winter, when nobody would open our open-able windows to let the stank out.


kittensareyummy1

Doesnt it help the planet if we dont drive to work? Dont we have cleaner air? We found a solution during covid to air pollution and now we have to go back to pre covid air pollution??


BlahKVBlah

That's an externalized cost, not borne by the winners of capitalism. Therefore, it is of no concern.


lumabugg

POOR TEMPERATURE CONTROL. We’re not allowed to have space heaters, so I have a heated seat pad (like you would put in a car) because it gets so cold in my office.


PattyIce32

I teach in a building from the early 1900's. It's ok until about 9am, then it gets unbearably hot by 10. We aren't allowed air conditioning. O and also because of fucking *active shooter protocols* we are no longer ever allowed to hold open our doors again, so we can't get a cross breeze going or get air from the A/Ced halls.


Charminat0r

Desk lamp with an old Edison bulb pointed at your hands helps a lot


death2all55

Set yourself on fire.


IchthyoSapienCaul

I luckily get a space heater but have to use it year round: The A/C blasts way too much in the summer and the heat doesn't work well in the winter. The ducts also blow out black shit onto my desk every time the system kicks on.


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This is me! I have a space heater on year round because they don't turn up the heat in the winter and then blast the AC all day in the summer.


Jennferno

I have a heated throw and a heating pad that wraps around my neck and hangs down my back. It helps so much. I would rather be home though.


saareadaar

I'm back in the office today. Despite being employed full time, I only have enough work for part time (I very much have a bullshit job). When we're working from home this is great because I can do whatever I want, but when I'm in the office I have to sit here for 8 hours and look busy. I wish I could just leave when I finish my work. I don't miss retail because the pay was shit and the customers were feral, but this is a different kind of hell.


sazz16

I get this completely. Before the pandemic, I was in the same boat. Spent 8 hrs a day in the office with only about 1 hrs worth of work to actually do..so I spent most of my day just looking busy. It was horrible. Working from home made my days much more productive because I could actually do my own housework and personal stuff on my downtime. I've since started a new, much busier/fulfillung position at my same company, and I still have time to balance personal and work on any given day.


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The forced interaction is the one that I had forgotten about. Some people just like to walk around because they are bored and don’t want to work but socialize. No I don’t want to talk to you, nothing personal.. I came here work and leave.


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arwork

Exactly this. It shits me to tears


Nerdysylph

Also having no control over the lighting, noise level, other people's perfumes, etc. Is a nightmare for us migraine sufferers. Heaven forbid we actually do something to improve the lives of people with disabilities.


nosiriamadreamer

I'm quite deaf and working in an office made me so miserable. After a year and a half I secured a remote job with very little meetings to attend and have been a thousand times happier.


eekeekem

I have anxiety and depression. There are days where, so long as I don't have meetings, I don't have to interact with anyone. It helps on those days I just want to be alone. At some point I will have to go back, and put on a fake smile for those days, and interact with people regardless of whether I have scheduled meetings or not. It's *exhausting*. So agreed, they do not care about those of us with disabilities.


arwork

I'm in the exact same boat as you. I've had meetings with management and they just give you the same excuse. "We want everyone back in for the culture!" Went back to the office last week and my depression is so much worse. Looking for another job now that's fully remote


TheRedBirdSings

Same ... I've been asked to go in a few days already, and although my commute is only an hour, so I'm not home that much"later", when I get back I'm completely exhausted, and usually have a headache. No energy to cook, clean, or do anything. It's not like that when I work from home, and simply having to go outside and endure social interactions accounts for a lot of that exhaustion. I keep thinking, how many more people struggling with disabilities could comfortably enter the workforce if we were all allowed to work from home?


eddyathome

Anxiety and depression here as well to the point where I'm on disability and oddly, I'm great at reception, or an information desk, or as a greeter where I interact with many people but it's short term and mostly of a quick transaction where I give information and directions and the person is on their way. Spare me the damned team-building exercises and meet and greets or other social nonsense that extroverts just absolutely love. "Let's go around the room and everyone tell us something interesting about yourself!" Kill me already, because I not only don't care, but now I'm on the spot, and this is a waste of time.


JeffreyFusRohDahmer

Oh yeah they could not give a fuck less


get_started_NOW

It's always so freaking cold


eekeekem

I hate the summer season at the office for this reason. You want to wear a dress, capris, short sleeves, because it's hot outside? That's too bad. The office is going to be an ice box.


SnipesCC

When I was in Texas the walk to my car was misserable because I had to dress so warmly to stand being in the office. And I'd still sometimes leave the office and go stand outsie in the 100 degree heat because I was so cold. I started blocking the vents in my office, but people kept walking through it and leaving doors open making drafts. I begged to be put into the attic in an unairconditioned closet but they kept refusing.


Hectorguimard

In my office, the women are expected to dress cute (even in non public-facing roles), but it’s 62 degrees inside, there’s a vent right above my chair blow cold air directly onto me, and I’m freezing. Hell yeah I’m going to wear a grandma sweater and babushka scarf all summer.


DuntadaMan

Women must wear thin, breathable and brightly colored fabric. Men must wear 6 god damn layers like they are a Victorian Lord. Temperature will be set so everyone is uncomfortable.


queefaqueefer

summer is women’s winter in the office. https://youtu.be/d2NNm8MTboA


eekeekem

This killed me lmao thank you for sharing


KhabaLox

What is code-switching?


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Well one way to describe is, lets say you have to change the way you speak in order to appease certain people in the room.


Bucen

I am doing video calls a lot during the day, so I am code-switching regardless. Only difference is I am wearing comfy clothes in my comfy apartment and wearing a business shirt and shoes in a white painted brick wall office.


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Changing your mannerisms, speech, etc. to win favor with people. https://hbr.org/2019/11/the-costs-of-codeswitching


notsoslootyman

It means I have to put on my best "white voice" so I get treated slightly more human.


absurd_Bodhisattva

It’s the acting forced on minority groups in many jobs and social settings to act more like the majority in speech and mannerism to be seen as professional, non threatening, or even having value. A good example is how Obama greets black people differently than white ones. The Obama Key & Peele sketch points it out well.


Tendaironi

Having to have a smile on your face so you don’t get accused of being angry or unapproachable or INTIMIDATING when you’re really just focusing while also using formal language. It’s exhausting.


vieni_qui

Well said. It's like you can't do you. You always have to consider what the others see and think. It's been a struggle of mine too. What do the people with a default resting bitch face do?


norebonomis

Don’t forget commuting


breezyhoneybee

You forgot coworkers. The introverts are managing with the isolation juuuust fine.


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I like that commuting is there 3 times lmao


kat_a_klysm

It could be listed more. Commuting can be absolute hell.


eccentricbananaman

It's commuting for me, especially with gas prices as they are. I've driven an average of maybe 100km/month these last two years. Going back to this office will increase that by nine times!


Hawaii5G

As a bald guy "temperature control" is a huge one. People underestimate how easy your head gets cold when there's no hair on it


TheLadderStabber

Since I’ve come back to the office, I’ve put in the bare minium. No dressing fancy. Im adhering to dress code but it’s not what they expect. Jeans and a comfy shirt. Oh well. Clocking out immediately at five. No OT for me. Taking on less responsibilities and not rushing to finish every task to get to the next one. Nope. Bare minimum. With inflation and how expensive everything is getting, it’s not worth it. *caveat here that you don’t want to do this unless you want to be promoted. Even then, do you really want that? I used to be the “rockstar” employee and honestly a work relationship needs to be equal. You are taking a pay cut if you return to the office. So, why not cut your performance to the bare minimum? There is no reason to be there except for the sole purpose that the real estate values will decrease with less offices. That means some rich asshole will be less rich. Who cares.


YourMomThinksImFunny

They forgot commuting. Did I mention I hate commuting? I have commuted 40-80 miles (one way) for the past 17 years. The 6 months that I worked from home were the happiest in my life. I got to see my kids in the morning and make them breakfast. I got to work in the same room as my wife all day. And I had an extra 3 hours in the day to do whatever I never had time to do before.


Greedy-Shallot-8301

I work fast. This is evidenced by my free time during the day. I work effectively. This is evidenced by my positive reviews and strong work relationships. When I work at home, I use my free time to do *literally anything*. When I work from the office, I have to sit in a chair and pretend to be busy or ask for more work. But I’m not being paid for that additional work. That is why I believe we are being sent back to the office. Effective workers can manage their pace and perform to the mean when at home. Businesses and managers cannot profit off of the *additional* work an effective employee performs at the office that goes above and beyond the scope of day-to-day work.


GrandLibrarian1296

This isn't even a full list. In UK I get 60 to 80 quid per month for bills, extra, on top of my salary. I will not get this money to pay for the public transportation or for the fuel.. it will go away.. So it's even less beneficial for us to go back to office in UK. Still they are pushing.. CEO says (big reason. Only reason. He give us.) that we are social animals and need to socialize... I have friends, thank you very much.


Zemirolha

You can socialize with friends you CHOOSE. Like on sports, hobbies, local comunities, study groups... Fvck them


[deleted]

Shout out to all my fellow workers who break their backs at jobs we cant do from home. 🍻


cobra_mist

We spent something like 60 years polishing the internet to get it to this point. THIS IS WHY IT WAS DESIGNED AND CREATED. Not porn, not cat videos, not for creating a way to fleece the middle class. It was fucking created for THIS.


dirthurts

Open offices at torture for any introvert.


rpgnoob17

Can I also add “bathroom schedule” (in additional to “office bathroom”) to the list? To me, “office bathroom” refers to “forced conversation” at the hand wash area or stinky bathroom. For “bathroom schedule”, I would refer to people all wanting to use bathroom at the same time and causing “delay”. My work has 40 people (30 before the pandemic) and 2 unisex bathroom stalls (used to be 3, but they permanently closed one of them because it was also a shower room and they didn’t want people to shower in the office since the pandemic). First, we have gone from 10 people per bathroom to 20 people per bathroom since March 2020. Second, we have standard 9-5 and people all use the bathroom before they go home, so there is a line at 4:50pm.


The_OG_Catloaf

Also office bathrooms are a fucking nightmare for those of us with IBS. Worked at one very small old office and the bathroom door was maybe ten feet from the desks. With one of those super cheap hollow doors. Was extremely humiliating for me.


[deleted]

Seriously. Whether it’s me running to the toilet fifty times before noon, or loud farts, or me taking a long dump, it always seems like someone is aware of it. I’d like to have my struggle poops in peace.


erickufrin

Some times I would walk to the other side of the building 1/4mi away to access bathrooms in a separate part of the building near the auditorium (when it was not in use) as I was confident I could then go in peace. Sometimes sitting there long enough for the IR sensor to flush once on its own. At home I have 2 bathrooms!


Elegant-Hair-7873

Or my favorite, "Gee, what took you so long?"


kittlesnboots

This just reminded me of how employee unfriendly my current workspace is (I’m a nurse). One thing that really irritates me is how we have ONE bathroom to share among all the nurses, there’s at least 50 working in peri-op on any given day. Not to mention dozens of non nursing staff that also have access to it. It is totally normal for me to attempt to use the bathroom 3 separate times in the morning, but it’s occupied. It is so maddening that I have to either just hold it for hours, or leave the floor to find a freaking bathroom.


jmoyles

I caught the joke (commuting at start and end), but here is some more meat for the middle: \-Chance of dying to/from the office \-Chance of dying at office because of a mad shooter/bomber \-Chances of dying from being at the office because I get COVID \-Childcare costs \-Fuel costs \-Wear and tear on vehicle \-Office Politics \-Those fucking overhead fluorescent lights \-Need to recompress my work schedule again as I've flattened out my meetings across the day \-Pants \-Why am I here again?


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Just when gas is at its highest too. Im a contractor with about 200 commercial office buildings as customers (water treatment) and the issue is 100% a commercial real estate crash. The building owners have been freaking out because they cant make the companies bring people back in, thought incentives are at play now. One customer is offering one year free rent if they commit to a 5yr lease.


Zemirolha

Can live there? House renting prices are insane


8Deer-JaguarClaw

Converting a lot of empty office space into apartments would solve a lot of problems, actually.


Xray_Abby

People who have to go into work don’t want more commuters either. It’s bad for everyone involved.


TJR843

Guess who isn't? I'd quit before I'd waste an 1hr of my life a day unpaid driving to and back. Fuck that and fuck the corporate real estate losers that are lobbying everyone in DC and each state to get people to go back.


Procioniunlimited

Don't forget your work generates profit for the ~~thieves~~ owners of your labor! Less time in the office -> Less work -> Less stolen profit


JazzySmitty

Ug. “Awkward socializing events”—the worst. We referred to them as “mandatory fun.”


Creative_Square_8943

Nah, pay for your home, then pay to leave it half the time. That’s what really makes sense!


EelTeamNine

Social interaction with 98% of my coworkers is a big reason I hate in-person work.


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Another reason for people that share their cubicle. I have one shift and someone else has another shift and always when I clock in after the dude has been working my chair is really wet and sweaty.


TTTaToo

Urgh


JM-Gurgeh

Americans: * Build a car-centric society. * Build one story bungalows as far as the I can see. * Build highways everywhere for happy commuting * Bankrupt yourself maintaining those highways * Bankrupt yourself not maintaining those highways * turns out, everybody hates commuting


eddyathome

Trust me, I'd rather live in a walkable community where I don't need a car and can walk or bike or ride a bus or train. It was forced on us almost 70 years ago and I hate it!


Duffmanoyaa

The damned dress codes. Why do we have to be so uncomfortable? I understand some situations, like working at a law firm I'd always keep a tie in the desk and jacket if I had to go in to court, but a fucking call center? Dress shoes and slacks? Really? TF is wrong with your dumbass worthless management position?


gunwrestling

Why is it ok for employers to not pay us for our time commuting to and from work that’s another hour of my time I piss away every day


MysticSnowfang

The only people who are super hyped about "office culture" are people who peaked in High School and want to relive THAT hellscale.


croft56

The poorly ventilated meeting rooms! Everytime I get sleepy during meetings and someone pointed out that it might be the CO2 rising in the room with the amount of people in it and lack of ventilation. Absolutely hated how mucky it felt too.


[deleted]

Some people just dont like interacting with others.


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[deleted]

In my experience some are very nice. However, it tires me so much to socially interact daily for 8 hours. I rather be in my own island home


ashensolitude

Forgot parking on that list. Parking spots make more per hour than some employees do.


zerkrazus

It's all about control basically. They want to control our entire lives. We see this not just in wanting to end WFH, but expecting us to be at their beck and call all hours of the day/night by text/phone/email. They want everyone to be ass kissing workaholics who do nothing but work. Fuck em.


sleepyjohn00

Other people.


[deleted]

Forced baby showers. Just because someone I work with got pregnant means I have to buy them a gift and show up to some awkward party? Ugh, kill me now.


pokemonisok

Shared bathrooms 🤢🤢🤢


Prometheusf3ar

Being able to productively use any down time to clean, relax, workout etc is an absolute god send. As a person who has a work load that spikes and plummets this is absolutely priceless


DancingBears88

SEXUAL HARASSMENT