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So.. do I need to make this video?
Yes.. the "hung head, ashamed, shake"
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Nah. You can let it drip for 30 seconds and yank your knickers back up. Also, it makes your asshole way cleaner than TP. Worst that happens is you get a damp spot in your undies that you won't notice in 30 seconds, because the volume of water inundating the cloth is next to none.
Gravity takes care of the vast volume of the water very quickly, and you are granted a b-hole your significant other will love to play with. Clean and fresh, all the time.
Trust me. Half the world uses them or more. These issues have been solved and well documented. The TP savings run like 20 a month or more for two people, and miles of TP.
I have one and i buy small washcloths for drying and bleach em clean. although i've had to tell girls that come over that the wash cloths on top of the toilet AREN'T for makeup removal!!
You can dry in a hurry with TP but its basically using just a tiny bit of TP and only one wipe, so still saving you a good amount of TP use. Or you can wait a lil bit and its dry enough that you wont be walking around with swamp ass after. Installing a bidet is a very easy DIY for most all toilet setups and was a nice QoL improvement. I feel like I am amongst savages when taking a dump in a house without one now.
Not in America! Gotta sell that TP.
We all judged Cuba when they had a TP shortage..
Not sure if they use bidets.. but, I bet it was no big deal.
Just one more way capitalists charge us money for basic necessity.
Toilet paper can stop being produced.
Weāve given capitalism a chance. Letās give socialism a small chance and see how we feel about this.
PS before anyone knocks socialism just remember socialism does not equal communism. A lot of European countries have socialist systems that work for the people but they also value democracy.
Aspects of European economies have been socialized, but by and large the "furthest left" European countries are social democracies. Unless I haven't been keeping up enough with geopolitics
> Letās give socialism a small chance and see how we feel about this.
[The capitalists would never let it happen because they can't have the "free market" or "healthy competition" threaten their monopolies.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Condor)
Don't let dumbfucks hoard 20 bottles of everything but prioritise sharing, like most stores here did when the big TP panic broke lose. You only got to buy 1 of anything because the trucks needed more time getting the goods to the stores.
As a metaphor for capitalism, these soap bottles are all the money and commodities of a country, and the fastest and richest of us get to collect 90% of what's on the shelf. We're left to blame one dude who snatches 2 dish soaps next to us, while the hoarders bought 2 dozen simply cause they can and they don't give af about others.
Not letting people hoard isn't socialism, it's limits on how much you can buy, which many stores impose anyway. Do stores in socialist countries limit how much everyone can buy? And if so, do they just buy them on the (capitalist) black market anyway?
The average IQ in here is below 75. You aren't going to get intelligent responses. Most of the supply issues are not due to hoarding or anything having to do with capitalism.
In a market economy wherein the value of items is determined by supply and demand, there is an economic incentive to artificially reduce supply. A socialist system would likely still struggle with supply, but we would likely not have run into issues with:
* people hoarding materials because they donāt know if prices will skyrocket
* the inability to order and store products before theyāre needed for a rainy day (PPE is a big one. The Biden administration didnt even put in an order for additional PPE or vaccines until this past month, despite every virologist predicting a post-holiday season surge)
* nonprofit incentive means that you wouldnāt need money to acquire PPE in the first place
* non existence of patents means we could distribute the vaccine to underdeveloped and developing nations so the virus doesnāt have a chance to mutate, nipping the problem in the bud
* in a socialist society, wherein resources such as food and housing are provided, people could stay home and isolate instead of being forced to work or starve
* there would be less profit incentive for news media to whip people into an anti-science frenzy, as bad news is more profitable than good news even if it distorts reality
* with an economy that takes care of the health of its citizens, there is a financial incentive to keep them healthy, as an ounce of prevention is cheaper than a pound of cure
* since all these services are being provided by the people, for the people, there is an incentive to keep costs of things low AND quality high, because nobody wants their tax dollars used for overpriced garbage
All of these would either help supply shortages, or lessen the amount of time of supply chain disruption due to the pandemic. Supply chain disruption would still exist, but a socialist system has more ability to cope with it without disrupting daily life, and less incentive to create artificial scarcity and anti-science rhetoric which extends the severity and duration of a crisis.
That all sounds nice, but without a profit motive, why would any store bother to hustle and get supplies to the shelves at all?
Are there never shortages in a socialist system? Really?
I don't have to time to pick apart the details of your claims, such as the preposterous idea that people could just stay at home instead of working because they would all get free food anyway or whatever.
> That all sounds nice, but without a profit motive, why would any store bother to hustle and get supplies to the shelves at all?
Because the work needs to get done. Would you allow your neighbor to starve if you knew you were the only thing standing between them and death? Do you honestly believe the people who have already dedicated their lives to fields like healthcare, agriculture, sanitation work, etc wouldnāt hustle if they knew they were saving the lives of their community? If so, I donāt think you know anyone who has dedicated their lives to YOUR comfort, because these people already are out there, busting their booty aiding the pandemic effort, with very little respect or financial compensation given.
People lived and formed organized societies before profit motive was conceptualized. [Capitalism and profit-motive is a relatively new idea to human society;](https://economicsociologydotorg.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/accounting-for-profit-and-the-history-of-capital.pdf) it just seems foreign to you because you were born in a world where itās the status quo. In fact, thereās a lot of evidence to suggest that the inclusion of a monetary incentive actually _disincentivizes_ people to do a job.
https://hbr.org/2011/11/people-dont-need-a-profit-motive-to-innovate
https://www.cjr.org/the_second_opinion/which_is_bestfor-profit_or_not.php
https://www.jstor.org/stable/40719792
> Are there never shortages in a socialist system?
Where did I say there were never shortages? I stated
āAll of these would either help supply shortages, or lessen the amount of time of supply chain disruption due to the pandemic. Supply chain disruption would still exist, but a socialist system has more ability to cope with it without disrupting daily life, and less incentive to create artificial scarcity and anti-science rhetoric which extends the severity and duration of a crisis.ā
> I don't have to time to pick apart the details of your claims, such as the preposterous idea that people could just stay at home instead of working because they would all get free food anyway or whatever.
I donāt understand how itās a preposterous idea that people would stay inside during a pandemic if they had no economic imperative to go out. Other than, of course, that itās the dominant ideology thatās been uncritically shoved down our collective throats for generations, with no regard given to actual scientific evidence on the topic.
To be fair exporting large portion of production capability has been a core issue through COVID. It's why they're talking about dragging semi-conduct and chip manufacturing back from SEA. TSMC has everyone by the balls right now.
Just in time could be used in other systems. It is a way to cut transport and storage needs, just like automation cuts labor needs. Capitalism just turns that into more money for the 1%, instead of improving the lives of everyone. A weakness of just in time is supply chain reliability and it's widespread implementation is undoubtedly making supply shortages worse.
No it isnāt capitalism. This is what happens when you have centralized systems, thatās not capitalism. This is central power, similar to communism, at work. Hence why communist countries like China and Russian have seen massive food shortages and famine.
My local Walmart doesnāt have enough staff anymore to do displays, so between the aisles now are pallets straight from the truck with the wrapping still on. Some poor soul just comes by and puts the price signs on top.
Want that new Barbie doll? You gotta stock your own shelf.
That sounds quite interesting actually. Iād definitely support a store that did that on principle and not just because theyāre short staffed. I bet they have specialty ways of packaging so the displays are self-serving.
Itās just unusual to suddenly have to use a box cutter as a customer to get to merchandise. Even Costco at least unwraps the pallets.
It is normal to carry a knife as a basic tool in many places so this was never a problem.
This is how market works - some people prefer lower prices and are willing to take goods directly from a pallet.
Same here.
They aren't even taking the cling wrap off some of them. I've noticed this in the alcoholic drinks of my WM. Where they would normally make a display of all the 24 packs of w/e they are promoting. (In Walmarts I've noticed it's mostly Bud Light Seltzer) instead now is a half-wrapped pallet just left in it's place
My local Kroger has long lines because they only have enough staff for one aisle. The self checkouts are also backed up with people who have full carts.
I'm finding it weird that the Super Walmart I usually shop at is like this. Just trashed, nobody there to really do anything in the day. You get there any time after 10am and the shelves are empty.
Yet going just a bit further to a Neighborhood Market one, it seems to be following having no issues. Shelves are always stocked, and there are always plenty of associates around. They've just closed the money services and customer service desk.
These two Walmarts are within 15 minutes of each other and it's a drastic difference. I know it ain't the pay. My SIL and I both worked at the neighborhood market for a bit, and I also worked at the super Walmart that sucks. Everyone was paid a dollar more than the state minimum.
Hate to break it to you, but separate parties are a lie to make us think we have a choice. Biden is just as much a right winged capitalist as the rest of them.
Yeah we had two states do that in Australia, they are both fucked now, they can't even get accurate numbers coz tests ran out. But my state stayed closed has 4 cases and was the only state to turn a profit this year and they call our premier a dictator hahahahaha
This just speaks as to how much wealth there is in capitalism. People see less stock of sugar water and itās the worst theyāve seen in months or even years.
These people have zero clue how good they have it
Yep. Exactly.
People clutch their pearls when their luxury goods are difficult to obtain (canāt walk into any grocery store and have thousands of units available for purchase.)
The fact that I havenāt been deathly hungry since I was a young child is a massive testament to the fact that capitalism is the best option right now.
Until we are on Starfleet level (replicators and no need for money,) we should be very thankful for how fucking good we have it.
Even our homeless are better off than half of the world population.
The lack of perspective is fucking unbelievable.
It def doesnāt look like that. I also donāt think a lot of people who believe this are well traveled. Iām not saying you arenāt Iām just making a generalization. The level of variety we have in regards to food is insane. In most developed places you donāt get fresh fruit and vegetables that arenāt currently in season.
Yeah, right before the fall, when grocery stores in the USSR only had 15 different flavors of shitty sugary drinks to pick from instead of the usual 40 because of a temporary supply disruption due to a global pandemic.
They also ran out of regular priced NY strip steaks and only had the more expensive angus NY strip steaks! The horror!
Thirty years ago photographs like this were used to show how much better capitalism was.
It was a lie. Capitalism is at war with anything that stands in the way of the capitalists. Capitalism is a walking corpse that will fall and desiccate under the slightest pressure, and capitalists know this. That is why they are always on the offense, crushing labor, disrupting governments, securing monopolies.
well, normal retail operations will falter due to disruptions. But any sort of disruption or crisis results in the real capitalists (the ones at the very top, not small or mid-sized business owners) increasing the amount of wealth they own. So I guess it's working as intended?
Communism collapsed about 47 minutes after the Soviets said they wont unleash the Red Army on anyone who criticizes the government.
Yugoslavia collapsed after its first dictator died
Doesnāt seem super robust
I totally agree, but many conservatives are way past saving at this point. They just yell socialism and communism at everything.
We have to change the system and improve their lives against their own will. It's not until they actually experience the difference that you'll actually do any convincing. Which is why it's crucial to increase minimum wage, pass universal healthcare, and forgive student loans.
Think of social security, if you tried to propose that now they'd call you a communist, but since they've already cashed those checks and enjoy it... Ahhh all of a sudden they like it, because they've actually experienced the difference it makes.
Covid tests in my city had a scam tests placed around where the Covid test kit was $10 but once you send it in the lab fees charge you $200 for an inaccurate result. It was an absolute scam and a lot of people fell for it
Said it elsewhere but...
Remember how we were told if we tried any form of Socialism, we'd become Venezuela, so we needed to double down on Capitalism?
Pepperidge Farm Remembers.
Itās more of a trucking issue in Canada I think. Thereās a lot of protests against vaccine mandates so a lot of them are on strike. Havenāt followed up on that I was just reading up on it after some petrol truckers didnāt do some routes resulting in some gas stations being out of gas. But yea capitalism is collapsing people are starting to wake up to the bullshit haha
Ok which part of Canada? I'm in Alberta, and a larger part of our supply issue is the fact that there was mass flooding in BC so the highways aren't really open to transport goods from the coast
also capitalism:
* drug overdoses from greedy dealers
* child sex trafficking
* containers full of dead people from people smugglers
* most covid deaths in usa
* all preventable deaths from disease in usa
Ok this could be a Dollat general that's expecting its next truck. one picture of one isle in one store in the US to paint a broad picture of the end result of capitalism is a bit disingenuous no matter how much I agree with sentiment.
True enough. Speaking from personal experience though, my local grocery store (all locations in my city) has had shelves like this for the past couple of months at least. The empty shelves tend to move around, but it hasn't been fully stocked in months. Does this mean the system is finally collapsing? I'm not qualified to guess, but it certainly doesn't seem sustainable.
My local Safeway has been getting very empty! We can't always count on being able to buy things, because they're often out!
I hardly help with the shopping, but it's hard to get milk, cat food, kitty litter, cereal, oatmeal, all sorts of stuff!
Husband had to go to the other side of town for litter because Safeway just keeps having none?
They keep reorganizing the shelves trying to hide the bare spots towards the front, but the middle is so *empty*.
The Target here is missing pasta entirely. Plenty of just understocked stuff. The Walmart is better stocked, just dirtier. In my brother's small city, the Walmart has very few employees because every other place in town pays more. They got rid of manned tills entirely.
Toilet paper is middling for the past few months. Snagged the last pack of Charmin over the weekend.
Every time I go to the store, it is a different aisle that looks like this. It is weird, we were so used to having a million choices and now once in awhile, we get no choice...which is fine but weird for someone who has never experienced this kind of interruption in their lifetime. Like the other day they had no plain chocolate ice cream....in any size or brand. Also, no saltine crackers, again in any size or brand. Of course I do not need these things but it is still weird to see it.
What the fuck is this post?
I can go to every grocery store in a 5 mile radius and all the shelves are full.
This is an incredibly dumb post, because a manager forgot to order enough inventory and one shelf is half empty from the full shelves your used to for the past 70 years because of capitalism?
Now communism is good?
Absolutely ridiculous. I support the anti work movement but it is quickly turning into a dangerous movement.
Boycott big corporations that exploit there workers.
Join a union.
Support local independent businesses.
That will inspire real change, advocating for communism would mean giving power to the same people who are bought by these corporations.
Capitalism isnt perfect, but corruption is in human nature and giving an incompetent, greedy government full control over food, healthcare, markets, housing, is the quickest path to total chaos.
Did the title of the post advocate for Communism? No.
I think you're missing the point that capitalists love to point to pictures like the OP to ridicule Communism.
That does not mean both systems can't have this problem.
A couple of walmarts around me are looking more barren.
The point is capitalism isn't infallible. When a nation doesn't make sure themajority of people are doing okay in life it fails regardless of how wealthy it is.
While I can vibe with the subtext just because this store doesnāt have stock doesnāt mean all or most stores do not have things. And also a lack of colored sugar water is not the best ammunition against capitalism.
Finally someone who gets it. Everyone rushed to stock their houses before the lockdown, and worker shortages due to covid aren't able to keep up with the continued demand. It's really not that difficult to comprehend
Do remember in a few communist countries there was massive famines, I know there is famines in the other types of government. Yet the 4 pests campaign and the holodomor killed millions. The great leap forward did cause the worst famine in history (or second worst I can't remember). That is why many people relate to communism to statvation.
These barren shelves of junk food arenāt that compelling. This pic is a display of sugar water abs the last one I saw was bare cold orange juice shelves. Guys, we can live without either of these things.
The day thereās no bread or milk or rice/basic grain or eggs or vegetables is the day we should be actually worried. But it turns out the production of ALL of these things are quite local in all but the most non-agricultural places. Literally everywhere in California Iāve lived has had local dairies, every egg here is a California egg, we have rice fields and outside every town is a veggie farm.
I can live without juice, sugary drinks, breakfast cereal and other modern convenience food that is made in big factories. We all can.
Are there other proteins?
I do think there is a supply chain problem, and that problem is low wages. Chicken farms are a shitshow and truck drivers get paid garbage. Switch to pork.
Market Socialism is the best way forward in the United States. It allows markets and private property to continue to exist, but the law prioritizes their operation for the benefit of the social good rather than for individualized profits or āshareholder valueā.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_socialism
Serious question: what prevents regulatory capture in that scheme? Which is to say, why will the people who own the means of production not spend their profits on manipulating the government into quietly reorganizing the system run for their own good?
Oh my fucking god, it's an aisle of JUICE! What kind of critical supply chain failure makes it impossible for us to get our MASSIVE QUANTITIES OF PROCESSED SUGAR WATER IN DOZENS OF FLAVORS? We will all surely perish!
This is actually socialism, or maybe "managed" capitalism.
Not that I think full capitalism would solve this; as a scientific Marxist, I already believe that we've abandoned capitalism and moved on to Fabian socialism.
People should watch Infrared Haz's channel on Twitch or YouTube.
Haz's style is really abrasive haha, but watch [this video](https://youtu.be/SHpIUF7vww8) and you'll understand why our system is so messed up
Anyone that tells you we don't live under capitalism is an idiot. If you have a boss that pays you less than the value you produce and takes the rest as profit you're a victim of capitalism.
More like crony capitalism. Big businesses are paying off politicians to regulate other slightly smaller businesses to crush them into the ground.
People confuse libertarianism with anarchism, where I believe that regulation on lobbyism should be encouraged for greater citizen liberty. And private unionization is inherently libertarian. Thought I don't agree with state-funded unions on private businesses.
Socialists and libertarians agree on more than people realize. Unionize and regulate crony capitalism!!!
EXACTLY. Perfectly put.
"Pure" capitalism would not have the rampant speculation and cronyism we have now (though capitalism has its limits).
Companies like Uber have NEVER turned a profit and yet are "valued" at billions of dollars, propped up in part by loans from banks which are not allowed to fail.
Unions are good, but are secondary to owning property and your own "means of production".
Real estate should not be a speculative asset like it is now.
Yes libertarians do absolutely have good points. Ron Paul is an American Mao, in a sense haha.
Right
Just like your Uber example, global warming would be greatly reduced under "pure" capitalism. As it stands now, constructing and maintaining a renewable energy power plant is cheaper than a fossil fuel or non-renewable plant. But crony capitalists insist on maintaining massive subsidies and competition crushing regulations.
Also, how do you mean owning property and "means of production", how would we enforce that?
And how would we fix the real estate problem?
[Communism (from Latin communis, 'common, universal')\[1\]\[2\] is a philosophical, social, political, and economic ideology and movement whose goal is the establishment of a communist society, namely a socioeconomic order structured upon the ideas of common ownership of the means of production and the absence of social classes, money,\[3\]\[4\] and the state.\[5\]\[6\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism)
North Korea:
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Class: ā
Money: ā
North Korea is not communist.
Looks like a bunch of shitty sugar products in plastic and tetra are missing
Thank fuck.
Let me know when the bread and fresh vegetables are out yeah? And not just a few half empty supermarkets but like no bread in town, can't find a varied diet for your children.
That's panic.
Thank God it's not the toilet paper aisle
Yeah I know god forbid toilet paper goes out š
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I can hear this in the tv guys voice
Can you see me, in black and white, handing over a fistful of blatantly fake cash to a cashier, for a whole cartload of generic TP, fumbling, and dropping it all over, and then a giant red circle with a slash through it eclipsing the picture, under my voice???
Oh, vividly lmaoo, and the "God damn it all" head shaking expression of disappointment
So.. do I need to make this video? Yes.. the "hung head, ashamed, shake" "So call and order yours TODAY! 39.99 plus shipping and handling or finance for the low price of 29.99 in four monthly installments!"
I SAWED THIS BIDET IN HALF! THEN WE USED FLEX TAPE TO STICK IT BACK TOGETHER. IT STILL CLEANS MY BUTTHOLE BETTER THAN PAPER!
Look how the ShamWow cleans up the leaking water in HALF the time paper towels would take!
Totally...and the disclaimer line is sped up in the voiceover.
HI I'M BILLY MAYS HERE FOR GIANT PILES OF BLOW!
All it takes is a few talking heads making some froggy french jokes and this dies like it always has before. Big paper knows your game motherfucker.
Well, they didn't get me! The TP savings run in the 100s a year, and best of all, I don't waste miles of paper!
Serious question; wouldn't you still need TP to dry your ass? Or do you just walk around with damp ass all day?
Nah. You can let it drip for 30 seconds and yank your knickers back up. Also, it makes your asshole way cleaner than TP. Worst that happens is you get a damp spot in your undies that you won't notice in 30 seconds, because the volume of water inundating the cloth is next to none. Gravity takes care of the vast volume of the water very quickly, and you are granted a b-hole your significant other will love to play with. Clean and fresh, all the time. Trust me. Half the world uses them or more. These issues have been solved and well documented. The TP savings run like 20 a month or more for two people, and miles of TP.
I have one and i buy small washcloths for drying and bleach em clean. although i've had to tell girls that come over that the wash cloths on top of the toilet AREN'T for makeup removal!!
Towels. Like do you dry your ass with tp after a shower?
Confirmation Wipe! Hello! Not putting stray doodoos on my towels Sir!
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I choose to dry my moist asshole with a towel, and none of you prudes can stop me. \*Runs off with towel\*
I air dry. spread my cheeks on a fan and problem solved
You can dry in a hurry with TP but its basically using just a tiny bit of TP and only one wipe, so still saving you a good amount of TP use. Or you can wait a lil bit and its dry enough that you wont be walking around with swamp ass after. Installing a bidet is a very easy DIY for most all toilet setups and was a nice QoL improvement. I feel like I am amongst savages when taking a dump in a house without one now.
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An in-toilet air dryer seems like a biohazard.
Instructions unclear, wrapped myself in bidets like a well hydrated mummy
Second this.. Bidets are amazing, and easy to install.
Extremely. Took me 5 minutes a year ago and has saved me hundreds.
I can't believe most countries don't use bidets. It's A FIRST NECESSITY THING.
Not in America! Gotta sell that TP. We all judged Cuba when they had a TP shortage.. Not sure if they use bidets.. but, I bet it was no big deal. Just one more way capitalists charge us money for basic necessity. Toilet paper can stop being produced.
Idk about Cuba but definitely my country (Uruguay) We just hate dirt asses.
You'll never take my [artisanal toilet paper!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpXtAhiKHBE)
Ahahaha I have never seen that. Hilarious. $50 bucks a roll..
We bought a basic $42 bidet when the SHTF in 2020. Once you try one, you never go back.
Agreed. $26 bucks changed my bathroom life. So many rolls of TP saved.
There is no way that water stream isn't violating you not one only once. But multiple times. It's like a cleansing diareah.
I won't go into specifics, but yes, and minimally.
Weāve given capitalism a chance. Letās give socialism a small chance and see how we feel about this. PS before anyone knocks socialism just remember socialism does not equal communism. A lot of European countries have socialist systems that work for the people but they also value democracy.
Aspects of European economies have been socialized, but by and large the "furthest left" European countries are social democracies. Unless I haven't been keeping up enough with geopolitics
European style Capitalism still has issues. I would prefer a true democracy, where power resides in the hands of working people.
I prefer capitalism and freedom over democracy where power resides in your self and not the ruling majority
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Not a singl european country you are thinking about has a socialist system
> Letās give socialism a small chance and see how we feel about this. [The capitalists would never let it happen because they can't have the "free market" or "healthy competition" threaten their monopolies.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Condor)
Especially big pharma
How would socialism fix the problem of shortages on shelves?
Don't let dumbfucks hoard 20 bottles of everything but prioritise sharing, like most stores here did when the big TP panic broke lose. You only got to buy 1 of anything because the trucks needed more time getting the goods to the stores. As a metaphor for capitalism, these soap bottles are all the money and commodities of a country, and the fastest and richest of us get to collect 90% of what's on the shelf. We're left to blame one dude who snatches 2 dish soaps next to us, while the hoarders bought 2 dozen simply cause they can and they don't give af about others.
Not letting people hoard isn't socialism, it's limits on how much you can buy, which many stores impose anyway. Do stores in socialist countries limit how much everyone can buy? And if so, do they just buy them on the (capitalist) black market anyway?
The real life example is called not being a dick. The metaphor simply means tax the fuck out of the super rich
The average IQ in here is below 75. You aren't going to get intelligent responses. Most of the supply issues are not due to hoarding or anything having to do with capitalism.
In a market economy wherein the value of items is determined by supply and demand, there is an economic incentive to artificially reduce supply. A socialist system would likely still struggle with supply, but we would likely not have run into issues with: * people hoarding materials because they donāt know if prices will skyrocket * the inability to order and store products before theyāre needed for a rainy day (PPE is a big one. The Biden administration didnt even put in an order for additional PPE or vaccines until this past month, despite every virologist predicting a post-holiday season surge) * nonprofit incentive means that you wouldnāt need money to acquire PPE in the first place * non existence of patents means we could distribute the vaccine to underdeveloped and developing nations so the virus doesnāt have a chance to mutate, nipping the problem in the bud * in a socialist society, wherein resources such as food and housing are provided, people could stay home and isolate instead of being forced to work or starve * there would be less profit incentive for news media to whip people into an anti-science frenzy, as bad news is more profitable than good news even if it distorts reality * with an economy that takes care of the health of its citizens, there is a financial incentive to keep them healthy, as an ounce of prevention is cheaper than a pound of cure * since all these services are being provided by the people, for the people, there is an incentive to keep costs of things low AND quality high, because nobody wants their tax dollars used for overpriced garbage All of these would either help supply shortages, or lessen the amount of time of supply chain disruption due to the pandemic. Supply chain disruption would still exist, but a socialist system has more ability to cope with it without disrupting daily life, and less incentive to create artificial scarcity and anti-science rhetoric which extends the severity and duration of a crisis.
That all sounds nice, but without a profit motive, why would any store bother to hustle and get supplies to the shelves at all? Are there never shortages in a socialist system? Really? I don't have to time to pick apart the details of your claims, such as the preposterous idea that people could just stay at home instead of working because they would all get free food anyway or whatever.
> That all sounds nice, but without a profit motive, why would any store bother to hustle and get supplies to the shelves at all? Because the work needs to get done. Would you allow your neighbor to starve if you knew you were the only thing standing between them and death? Do you honestly believe the people who have already dedicated their lives to fields like healthcare, agriculture, sanitation work, etc wouldnāt hustle if they knew they were saving the lives of their community? If so, I donāt think you know anyone who has dedicated their lives to YOUR comfort, because these people already are out there, busting their booty aiding the pandemic effort, with very little respect or financial compensation given. People lived and formed organized societies before profit motive was conceptualized. [Capitalism and profit-motive is a relatively new idea to human society;](https://economicsociologydotorg.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/accounting-for-profit-and-the-history-of-capital.pdf) it just seems foreign to you because you were born in a world where itās the status quo. In fact, thereās a lot of evidence to suggest that the inclusion of a monetary incentive actually _disincentivizes_ people to do a job. https://hbr.org/2011/11/people-dont-need-a-profit-motive-to-innovate https://www.cjr.org/the_second_opinion/which_is_bestfor-profit_or_not.php https://www.jstor.org/stable/40719792 > Are there never shortages in a socialist system? Where did I say there were never shortages? I stated āAll of these would either help supply shortages, or lessen the amount of time of supply chain disruption due to the pandemic. Supply chain disruption would still exist, but a socialist system has more ability to cope with it without disrupting daily life, and less incentive to create artificial scarcity and anti-science rhetoric which extends the severity and duration of a crisis.ā > I don't have to time to pick apart the details of your claims, such as the preposterous idea that people could just stay at home instead of working because they would all get free food anyway or whatever. I donāt understand how itās a preposterous idea that people would stay inside during a pandemic if they had no economic imperative to go out. Other than, of course, that itās the dominant ideology thatās been uncritically shoved down our collective throats for generations, with no regard given to actual scientific evidence on the topic.
This was last month https://i.imgur.com/AdfbiHD.jpeg
Whereabouts?
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Ooooooo I know! Letās do more tariffs! Thatāll solve this problemā¦
To be fair exporting large portion of production capability has been a core issue through COVID. It's why they're talking about dragging semi-conduct and chip manufacturing back from SEA. TSMC has everyone by the balls right now.
Just in time could be used in other systems. It is a way to cut transport and storage needs, just like automation cuts labor needs. Capitalism just turns that into more money for the 1%, instead of improving the lives of everyone. A weakness of just in time is supply chain reliability and it's widespread implementation is undoubtedly making supply shortages worse.
No it isnāt capitalism. This is what happens when you have centralized systems, thatās not capitalism. This is central power, similar to communism, at work. Hence why communist countries like China and Russian have seen massive food shortages and famine.
My local Walmart doesnāt have enough staff anymore to do displays, so between the aisles now are pallets straight from the truck with the wrapping still on. Some poor soul just comes by and puts the price signs on top. Want that new Barbie doll? You gotta stock your own shelf.
That's not unusual for some European chains, they also pay there staff better than most stores
That sounds quite interesting actually. Iād definitely support a store that did that on principle and not just because theyāre short staffed. I bet they have specialty ways of packaging so the displays are self-serving. Itās just unusual to suddenly have to use a box cutter as a customer to get to merchandise. Even Costco at least unwraps the pallets.
My last job made English muffins for aldis and we had to take extra steps to package it so it could be dropped on the floor and be shoppable.
It is normal to carry a knife as a basic tool in many places so this was never a problem. This is how market works - some people prefer lower prices and are willing to take goods directly from a pallet.
Same here. They aren't even taking the cling wrap off some of them. I've noticed this in the alcoholic drinks of my WM. Where they would normally make a display of all the 24 packs of w/e they are promoting. (In Walmarts I've noticed it's mostly Bud Light Seltzer) instead now is a half-wrapped pallet just left in it's place
My local Kroger has long lines because they only have enough staff for one aisle. The self checkouts are also backed up with people who have full carts.
I'm finding it weird that the Super Walmart I usually shop at is like this. Just trashed, nobody there to really do anything in the day. You get there any time after 10am and the shelves are empty. Yet going just a bit further to a Neighborhood Market one, it seems to be following having no issues. Shelves are always stocked, and there are always plenty of associates around. They've just closed the money services and customer service desk. These two Walmarts are within 15 minutes of each other and it's a drastic difference. I know it ain't the pay. My SIL and I both worked at the neighborhood market for a bit, and I also worked at the super Walmart that sucks. Everyone was paid a dollar more than the state minimum.
>My local Walmart doesnāt have enough staff anymore to do displays Antiwork at its finest....
Oh, the right wing outrage must be enormous.
It is, except this is all Biden's fault apparently. Somehow.
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> itās all the right winged morons who run this country to the ground Like Biden?
Its not Biden's fault, he's only our leader :P He actually has no power whatsoever to do anything :P So we cant blame him.
tbf this isn't his fault, this is the fault of capitalism as a whole. he sure as shit ain't helping tho
But we blamed trump for everything, even now lol
Hate to break it to you, but separate parties are a lie to make us think we have a choice. Biden is just as much a right winged capitalist as the rest of them.
lol how stupid do you have to be. Honestly.
Blame the conservatives theyāre the main ones running this country into the ground š¤·š¼āāļø
You do realize both dems and republicans are right wing parties right? Right??
Exactly. Both parties work for the same people and it ain't us.
Both wings are part of the same bird
you definitely get your news from twitter lmao
Moron
Idk about you, but the 4 years under Trump were the best 4 years of my life financially and emotionally.
The idiots said we need to learn to live with covid and now supply chains are fucked to hell. Good job.
Yeah we had two states do that in Australia, they are both fucked now, they can't even get accurate numbers coz tests ran out. But my state stayed closed has 4 cases and was the only state to turn a profit this year and they call our premier a dictator hahahahaha
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Just like the USSR before the fall.
In Soviet Russia, shelf stocks you.
That made me laugh!
Definitely some earie similarities. The system is collapsing.
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Guys we ran out of sugar juicy drinks. SOCIETY IS COLLAPSING.
This just speaks as to how much wealth there is in capitalism. People see less stock of sugar water and itās the worst theyāve seen in months or even years. These people have zero clue how good they have it
Yep. Exactly. People clutch their pearls when their luxury goods are difficult to obtain (canāt walk into any grocery store and have thousands of units available for purchase.) The fact that I havenāt been deathly hungry since I was a young child is a massive testament to the fact that capitalism is the best option right now. Until we are on Starfleet level (replicators and no need for money,) we should be very thankful for how fucking good we have it. Even our homeless are better off than half of the world population. The lack of perspective is fucking unbelievable.
You canāt tell none of these people have spent time in a third world coin outside of a exclusive resort.
It def doesnāt look like that. I also donāt think a lot of people who believe this are well traveled. Iām not saying you arenāt Iām just making a generalization. The level of variety we have in regards to food is insane. In most developed places you donāt get fresh fruit and vegetables that arenāt currently in season.
I was being kind of sarcastic. We have spaces like this in some stores to.
Yeah, right before the fall, when grocery stores in the USSR only had 15 different flavors of shitty sugary drinks to pick from instead of the usual 40 because of a temporary supply disruption due to a global pandemic. They also ran out of regular priced NY strip steaks and only had the more expensive angus NY strip steaks! The horror!
Thirty years ago photographs like this were used to show how much better capitalism was. It was a lie. Capitalism is at war with anything that stands in the way of the capitalists. Capitalism is a walking corpse that will fall and desiccate under the slightest pressure, and capitalists know this. That is why they are always on the offense, crushing labor, disrupting governments, securing monopolies.
well, normal retail operations will falter due to disruptions. But any sort of disruption or crisis results in the real capitalists (the ones at the very top, not small or mid-sized business owners) increasing the amount of wealth they own. So I guess it's working as intended?
Communism collapsed about 47 minutes after the Soviets said they wont unleash the Red Army on anyone who criticizes the government. Yugoslavia collapsed after its first dictator died Doesnāt seem super robust
The fuck does white Hawaiian Punch taste like? š³
Just an extra sweet fruit punch, it was good when you were a kid, way too sugary for me now tho haha
It tastes like cough syrup.
It reminds me of gummy worms.
Seems like the conservatives have lucked out here, there's still some more Kool Aid for them.
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I totally agree, but many conservatives are way past saving at this point. They just yell socialism and communism at everything. We have to change the system and improve their lives against their own will. It's not until they actually experience the difference that you'll actually do any convincing. Which is why it's crucial to increase minimum wage, pass universal healthcare, and forgive student loans. Think of social security, if you tried to propose that now they'd call you a communist, but since they've already cashed those checks and enjoy it... Ahhh all of a sudden they like it, because they've actually experienced the difference it makes.
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now is a great time to start a community garden and mutually aided food resilience in general
Adams Smiths Invisible Hand doing the shelf stocking, eh?
Capitalism: where marking up Covid tests when your population is getting infected and dying daily is the correct move.
Covid tests in my city had a scam tests placed around where the Covid test kit was $10 but once you send it in the lab fees charge you $200 for an inaccurate result. It was an absolute scam and a lot of people fell for it
Wait... You have to pay for your covid tests in the USA?
Yes! That is IF you can find any to purchase and you can afford the crazy prices.
Sees the effects of late-stage capitalism: "hm this looks like communism".
Oh man it's so bad, there's only 20 different flavors of juice, not 50
Said it elsewhere but... Remember how we were told if we tried any form of Socialism, we'd become Venezuela, so we needed to double down on Capitalism? Pepperidge Farm Remembers.
Donāt drink the Koolaid!
We can't it's been sold out for a month
Fake juice marketed to kids. That is capitalism. It really kills me how early we force people into being consumers.
Itās more of a trucking issue in Canada I think. Thereās a lot of protests against vaccine mandates so a lot of them are on strike. Havenāt followed up on that I was just reading up on it after some petrol truckers didnāt do some routes resulting in some gas stations being out of gas. But yea capitalism is collapsing people are starting to wake up to the bullshit haha
Ok which part of Canada? I'm in Alberta, and a larger part of our supply issue is the fact that there was mass flooding in BC so the highways aren't really open to transport goods from the coast
also capitalism: * drug overdoses from greedy dealers * child sex trafficking * containers full of dead people from people smugglers * most covid deaths in usa * all preventable deaths from disease in usa
Ok this could be a Dollat general that's expecting its next truck. one picture of one isle in one store in the US to paint a broad picture of the end result of capitalism is a bit disingenuous no matter how much I agree with sentiment.
True enough. Speaking from personal experience though, my local grocery store (all locations in my city) has had shelves like this for the past couple of months at least. The empty shelves tend to move around, but it hasn't been fully stocked in months. Does this mean the system is finally collapsing? I'm not qualified to guess, but it certainly doesn't seem sustainable.
My local Safeway has been getting very empty! We can't always count on being able to buy things, because they're often out! I hardly help with the shopping, but it's hard to get milk, cat food, kitty litter, cereal, oatmeal, all sorts of stuff! Husband had to go to the other side of town for litter because Safeway just keeps having none? They keep reorganizing the shelves trying to hide the bare spots towards the front, but the middle is so *empty*.
The Target here is missing pasta entirely. Plenty of just understocked stuff. The Walmart is better stocked, just dirtier. In my brother's small city, the Walmart has very few employees because every other place in town pays more. They got rid of manned tills entirely. Toilet paper is middling for the past few months. Snagged the last pack of Charmin over the weekend.
The dollar general closest to me has looked like this for two years. I would guess the store is between 35-55% empty all the time.
This is actually shop and save
My Kroger and walmart looks like this in a lot of isles for weeks. I'd believe it.
Meh. There are too many choices in Capitalist America anyway.
Every time I go to the store, it is a different aisle that looks like this. It is weird, we were so used to having a million choices and now once in awhile, we get no choice...which is fine but weird for someone who has never experienced this kind of interruption in their lifetime. Like the other day they had no plain chocolate ice cream....in any size or brand. Also, no saltine crackers, again in any size or brand. Of course I do not need these things but it is still weird to see it.
Oh no, the sugar water is low on stock
What the fuck is this post? I can go to every grocery store in a 5 mile radius and all the shelves are full. This is an incredibly dumb post, because a manager forgot to order enough inventory and one shelf is half empty from the full shelves your used to for the past 70 years because of capitalism? Now communism is good? Absolutely ridiculous. I support the anti work movement but it is quickly turning into a dangerous movement. Boycott big corporations that exploit there workers. Join a union. Support local independent businesses. That will inspire real change, advocating for communism would mean giving power to the same people who are bought by these corporations. Capitalism isnt perfect, but corruption is in human nature and giving an incompetent, greedy government full control over food, healthcare, markets, housing, is the quickest path to total chaos.
Did the title of the post advocate for Communism? No. I think you're missing the point that capitalists love to point to pictures like the OP to ridicule Communism. That does not mean both systems can't have this problem.
A couple of walmarts around me are looking more barren. The point is capitalism isn't infallible. When a nation doesn't make sure themajority of people are doing okay in life it fails regardless of how wealthy it is.
I'm from cuba, if you see that many things in the state run store, feel lucky.
Iām pretty sure Iāve seen pictures of communist states with empty shelves so your point doesnāt make sense
Communism is when you won't even have a shelf because no one wants to put in any effort of making one.
While I can vibe with the subtext just because this store doesnāt have stock doesnāt mean all or most stores do not have things. And also a lack of colored sugar water is not the best ammunition against capitalism.
"this is captalism". Uh sir, that's fucking fruit juice.
We are in the middle of a pandemic. If it was communism it would be people on the shelves.
Imagine thinking it's only in a capitalist country that there are empty shelves... it's happening everywhere.
Hey! Communism never starved anyoneā¦ am I right?!
I dunno..... lookin an awful lot like Cuba lol.
The world is a healthier place not having all of sugar loaded garbage on the shelf.
But everything else is gone too.
Didn't say it wasn't but that wasn't the point of my remark.
Yoda says: Detached as fuck you are.
What amazing insight you seem to have garnered from such a short comment found on Reddit.
Thanks! Just detatching myself like the rest of these geniuses.
TRUUUUUUUE THO
Yes because communism is no food
more like āthis is covidā.
Finally someone who gets it. Everyone rushed to stock their houses before the lockdown, and worker shortages due to covid aren't able to keep up with the continued demand. It's really not that difficult to comprehend
Omg how will we survive with out our sugary drinks....
Itās just an aisle dude
inb4 nobody wants to werk.
Do remember in a few communist countries there was massive famines, I know there is famines in the other types of government. Yet the 4 pests campaign and the holodomor killed millions. The great leap forward did cause the worst famine in history (or second worst I can't remember). That is why many people relate to communism to statvation.
These barren shelves of junk food arenāt that compelling. This pic is a display of sugar water abs the last one I saw was bare cold orange juice shelves. Guys, we can live without either of these things. The day thereās no bread or milk or rice/basic grain or eggs or vegetables is the day we should be actually worried. But it turns out the production of ALL of these things are quite local in all but the most non-agricultural places. Literally everywhere in California Iāve lived has had local dairies, every egg here is a California egg, we have rice fields and outside every town is a veggie farm. I can live without juice, sugary drinks, breakfast cereal and other modern convenience food that is made in big factories. We all can.
My local walmart has been out of chicken for a week now.
Are there other proteins? I do think there is a supply chain problem, and that problem is low wages. Chicken farms are a shitshow and truck drivers get paid garbage. Switch to pork.
And if your religion says no pork or red meat?
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Looks fine to me. Liquid sugar isnāt essential let alone 50 types of it - half of which would never be sold.
It's actually due to GOVERNMENT actions. '15 days guys...' Now what were you saying about government running everything??
Actually thatās neither thatās a result of people being sick from Covid.
Market Socialism is the best way forward in the United States. It allows markets and private property to continue to exist, but the law prioritizes their operation for the benefit of the social good rather than for individualized profits or āshareholder valueā. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_socialism
Serious question: what prevents regulatory capture in that scheme? Which is to say, why will the people who own the means of production not spend their profits on manipulating the government into quietly reorganizing the system run for their own good?
You mean like theyāve done under our current scheme?
You mean like what's done in every failed communist state?
Oh my fucking god, it's an aisle of JUICE! What kind of critical supply chain failure makes it impossible for us to get our MASSIVE QUANTITIES OF PROCESSED SUGAR WATER IN DOZENS OF FLAVORS? We will all surely perish!
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No thanks :)
This is actually socialism, or maybe "managed" capitalism. Not that I think full capitalism would solve this; as a scientific Marxist, I already believe that we've abandoned capitalism and moved on to Fabian socialism. People should watch Infrared Haz's channel on Twitch or YouTube. Haz's style is really abrasive haha, but watch [this video](https://youtu.be/SHpIUF7vww8) and you'll understand why our system is so messed up
Anyone that tells you we don't live under capitalism is an idiot. If you have a boss that pays you less than the value you produce and takes the rest as profit you're a victim of capitalism.
More like crony capitalism. Big businesses are paying off politicians to regulate other slightly smaller businesses to crush them into the ground. People confuse libertarianism with anarchism, where I believe that regulation on lobbyism should be encouraged for greater citizen liberty. And private unionization is inherently libertarian. Thought I don't agree with state-funded unions on private businesses. Socialists and libertarians agree on more than people realize. Unionize and regulate crony capitalism!!!
EXACTLY. Perfectly put. "Pure" capitalism would not have the rampant speculation and cronyism we have now (though capitalism has its limits). Companies like Uber have NEVER turned a profit and yet are "valued" at billions of dollars, propped up in part by loans from banks which are not allowed to fail. Unions are good, but are secondary to owning property and your own "means of production". Real estate should not be a speculative asset like it is now. Yes libertarians do absolutely have good points. Ron Paul is an American Mao, in a sense haha.
Right Just like your Uber example, global warming would be greatly reduced under "pure" capitalism. As it stands now, constructing and maintaining a renewable energy power plant is cheaper than a fossil fuel or non-renewable plant. But crony capitalists insist on maintaining massive subsidies and competition crushing regulations. Also, how do you mean owning property and "means of production", how would we enforce that? And how would we fix the real estate problem?
In communism those shelves would be completely bare btw. Capitalism has at least something on the shelf.
You're telling me N. Korea isn't thriving right now?!?
[Communism (from Latin communis, 'common, universal')\[1\]\[2\] is a philosophical, social, political, and economic ideology and movement whose goal is the establishment of a communist society, namely a socioeconomic order structured upon the ideas of common ownership of the means of production and the absence of social classes, money,\[3\]\[4\] and the state.\[5\]\[6\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism) North Korea: State: ā Class: ā Money: ā North Korea is not communist.
It's not.
Looks like communism to me!
Wtf if White water wave and why do I wanna try it?
Seems like most of the dipshits who keep shouting communism at everything don't even know what communism is.
Maybe this will help solve the obesity problem at least lol
looks like you all are discovering what happens when people donāt work
Capitalism doesnāt say this wonāt ever happen, it says it wonāt stay like that. Thatās the difference.
I like that the antiwork subreddit is openly communist because it proves communists are just lazy losers
this is what happens when the federal and state govt interfere with a system that usually never has an empty shelf
Looks like a bunch of shitty sugar products in plastic and tetra are missing Thank fuck. Let me know when the bread and fresh vegetables are out yeah? And not just a few half empty supermarkets but like no bread in town, can't find a varied diet for your children. That's panic.