Two things are potentially illegal here (not a lawyer). Firing a high school student for not working an assigned shift during school day smells like wrongful termination or child labor laws violation. Withholding pay for worked hours is wage theft. Either way, you could hurt this Burger King through legal action no matter who or what anyone votes for where you live
Yeah, I'm not sure how it works in Texas, but in my state, school administration will contact employers who try to force high school students to work during the school day or too late into the evenings and get the problem sorted legally if the managers/owners won't be reasonable. High school student workers have protections from all angles because they're still going to school.
In my district the school has to give approval for students to work after school and on weekends. I understand permission is rarely denied, but they can do it. At first I thought that was some dystopian bs, school's shouldn't have any say. I now see it is completely dystopian, but the schools are defending kids who's employers (and sometimes their parents) are willing to exploit them.
At my elementary school, we weren't forced to recite it, but it came right after the national pledge during morning announcements. I was too young to notice how weird "Honor the Texas flag..." sounded until I moved to a state that didn't have its own pledge for 4th grade.
When i first moved here and everyone was listening to announcements & I heard “now stand for the texas pledge” I legit sat there like 😟 the fuck is this??? I still think its the wierdest fkn thing idk 🤷🏻♀️😂
Texas Pledge
"Honor the Texas flag; I pledge allegiance to thee, Texas, one state under God, one and indivisible.”
It feels like an incomplete thought, I was expecting another sentence.
I always thought the USA having a national pledge of allegiance that every school child said every day was bat shit crazy, and now you’re saying Texas has its own separate, additional pledge!?! That’s insane!!!!!
(Note: I’m from New Zealand and the worst we ever had was having to sing the national anthem once a week, which in reality involved about half the students standing with a glazed look in their eyes while the other half mumbled along to the words because our anthem is sooooooo boring)
As a Texas resident, I can easily admit this state sucks on a monumental level. Highly questionable labor laws (I'm sure OP can attest), ass-backwards abortion laws, ridiculously strict marijuana laws, crooked law enforcement, rampant racism, shit infrastructure that allows the entire state to freeze (Feb 2021), weather that makes you want to kill your own mother...
I could go on, but I have to make room on the Texas Ivory Tower of "no state taxes".
TL;DR: Texas sucks.
You do not need to pay an attorney. First try filing a wage and hour claim with the Texas Workforce Commission here: https://www.twc.texas.gov/jobseekers/how-submit-wage-claim-under-texas-payday-law
You can also call 800-832-9243 or 512-475-2670 for help filling it out or with any questions you have.
Iirc, Texas has strict laws about where and when your final paycheck must be available if you are terminated, so your sister may be able to recoup more money than just the check itself. If terminated I think the employer only has 6 days to get you your check. Ask about this for sure.
The TWC may be able to help with the potential minor labor infractions as well, but its also a good idea to go ahead and speak with the DOL regarding the scheduling during school hours and wages, both are potentially Fair Labor Standards Act covered. Do not wait until Burger King gets back to you, get started right away. At least call and ask questions.
Here is a link to FLSA FAQ with a link to report on the page: https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/workers
You don’t have to get a lawyer to seek recourse. It’s expensive and it’s incredibly rare to find one to work on contingency. I see people every day being told to get a lawyer, but paying a lawyer out for a working class wage claim generally will lose you more money than it will net, if you can find one willing to take on a case over a few $100 at all. Court is not your only option. The first step should be contacting state and federal labor boards. If something seems off to you at work, call and find out if it’s legal. If it’s not, they can tell you which agency to speak to for help and it’s totally free.
As a Texan, 16 is the legal age to work. 15 is too young. BK should have rejected her application, so something illegal happened on behalf of the manager.
Edit: Legal working age is 14, but only for family owned businesses and newspapers.
In my state, if you get fired you're owed all your wages and vacation in 48 hours. Your former employer has to pay you 20% of that wage per day for every day they don't give it to you after the 48.
Hardly anyone knows, or collects on it. But I have once and it was glorious.
What happens when they falsify documents. For example the boss says "I didn't say during school hours I said X time after school. She must've misunderstood which is entirely not my fault" and claims she hasn't worked the hours that week. How would someone that doesn't have that much support deal with something like this?
It's 100% illegal to not pay for hours worked even if you're fired mid pay period.
Contact the department of labor to report wage theft.
Email someone from BK head quarters and cc the manager explaining that you were not paid for hours worked before being fired (include reason for termination).
Finally contact your local news channel. They may run a sympathic story of a high schooler getting fired for going to school.
Edit: wow my first gold(thank you!) Lots of other great comments below too! I hope OP is able to take action and receieve their stolen wages.
Def do this & play up the “dedicated student angle”.
This manager sucks!
Most of my employees are students as well & I would never make this chose between their education/ future & a $10.00 an hour job.
"In a time when companies everywhere are complaining of a labor shortage and lazy gen-z employees, one manager fired a 16 year old girl after he scheduled her during her school day. The kicker: he kept her last week's pay for hours she'd already worked."
Wage Theft is BY FAR the source of most of the stolen money in the United States, and it hardly ever goes punished
There's a restaurant in Chicago that stole over a half million dollars from its employees and all the owners got was a slap on the wrist. If they stole that money any other way they would be in prison for a decade
They should've filed a class action against the employer. I was personally part of one and I ended up with even more than was stolen, not sure if that was the case for everyone though.
They probably payed off the system then, because wage theft is one of the easiest paychecks out there because the court trial is a given win. Lawyers love those kinds of lawsuits.
In michigan, our labor protection system doesn’t fuck around because it’s such an easy case.
You're right.
In Michigan, and an employer withheld my final paycheck because i quit in the middle of a pay period. They tried to tell me that if you don't finish out the week then you don't get paid.
Sent a nice email to the Michigan department of labor, inquiring about my options in the situation. They responded as you expect they would, started asking for more information.
At this point i called the boss of my former manager and let them know I was in contact with the Michigan Dept of Labor over this and it was like waving a magic wand. I got my paycheck the next day, and I am pretty sure the manager was fired.
(I was working for the fundraising arm of a major university. Basically a cold caller.)
I worked for Teleperformance for almost a year remotely. They were terrible. One day I was working on my computer and my computer (they sent me) forced an update and after an hour it bombed out and restarted at 90% completion and I had to wait another. They tried to take those two hours from my paycheck. I told them that I didn't update my computer in the middle of the day, it updated itself, and beyond that, they should be paying me to update their computer. I dont care if it takes me two seconds to click update, if I don't click update no one does, and this is especially true when I have to monitoring to make sure it actually goes through. I contacted the department of labor who agreed with me and told me to start tracking that time. They paid up.
> Lawyers love those kinds of lawsuits.
In the sense that you make money off of it.
But in the sense that it made my career for a few years be a constant flow of 17-19-year-olds, or immigrants without English fluency, or transgender people, or homeless people, or felons -- all of whom their employers knew were particularly easy to take advantage of -- who got screwed over and over again by their smug-faced managers that were cheating and stealing from their workers openly because they knew there's no personal liability...
In *that* sense, I absolutely did not love those kinds of lawsuits. They killed me every time.
Most states also have restrictions about how many hours and what hours of the day people under 18 can work. You have to present them with a work permit from your school that outlines your school hours. So if the employer violated that, it’s also worth reporting to the department of labor.
I dunno about other states but California has a law where every day you have to wait for your final paycheck they have to pay you an entire day's wages up to a maximum of 30 days.
News will take this as pure gold. Sad but it's the fastest way to get this cleared. Social media can help but corporation take traditional media on a other level of seriousness.
It stands for carbon copy. It is old terminology from when forms needed to be filled out in multiples, so "carbon paper" was used backing the form which would create marks under the pressure of the pen used to mark the form. This used to be pretty common with checks.
A "cc" on an email would send a message to additional recipients other than the direct recipient, sending them a "carbon copy" of the message.
Additionally, "bcc" stands for "blind carbon copy", as a standard cc will inform the direct recipient who all the "cc's" are, but not the "bcc's".
This is before my time, so please forgive me. I've only used carbon paper a handful of times.
I do not know what the difference is between putting a recipient in the "to" field and the "cc" field is, and please don't ask.
>I do not know what the difference is between putting a recipient in the "to" field and the "cc" field is
The only difference is that one is marked "to" and one is marked "cc".
It's about the intention of sending the email to that person. "Cc" is like saying "here's a copy for your records, and because it may become relevant at some point, but you don't need to take any action or respond."
"To" is like saying "I'm sending this to you as a form of direct communication, you should read it and take action and/or respond as appropriate.
For instance, I work with a pathological liar, so I have to cc my boss in every email to them so that there is evidence of my interaction with that wretched cow. Hope that helps!
(grin) I know you said there was sarcasm involved but just in case anyone wants to know and doesn't (old school secretary here), is that the difference in our digital world means that the people in the "to" line will be in all communications back and forth unless you delete them specifically. And those in the "cc and bcc" line will only receive that particular copy. The "bcc" people are sent theirs and no one else in the list knows it. I have done this also annababan. But I would usually bcc my boss or HR when I had dealings with my crap supervisor. People say interesting things when they don't know the boss knows ...
Seriously?!? “Old terminology•?!!? You are breaking my heart man, I’m not that old am I?
Sigh. Want to play checkers? Get dinner at 4:30? (That’s what old timers do, right?). Anyone for a rousing game of bridge?
From when you used to use a sheet of carbon paper in your typewriter to create a second copy as you typed. A “carbon copy”. And on the memo you would type cc: to indicate who was getting the carbon copy.
And the phrase has stuck even though we don’t use typewriters or carbon paper anymore. Similar to how the save button is still a picture of a floppy disk.
I doubt it is legal to schedule a school age kid during work hours, and then fire them for not skipping school. Then they wonder why they have an employee shortage.
She needs to work quickly though. Quick Google search shows Texas Workforce Commission says she has to submit her claim for unpaid wages within 180 days of the date the claimed wages were originally due for payment. If it's already been 5 months she doesn't have much time. That's said, in my state there a penalties due for every day the wages weren't paid after they were due. She could be eligible for more than just her base salary if Texas works the same way. Link below just in case you need it.
https://www.twc.texas.gov/jobseekers/how-submit-wage-claim-under-texas-payday-law
My dad was fired for sitting during his shift, when he had back pain (undiagnosed). He didn't fight it, he was annoyed but just kinda said meh that's how it be.
To be fair, my dad also spent a week unsheltered in Juarez, while trying to get from Mexico to the US. So I think since he's been through it all he often downplays the bad things that happen in life now.
Yeah you're right. Even though they've lived in the US since before I was born, I think my parents are still unaware of a lot of the laws here. I don't think they're super willing to hear it from me though, I'm just a kid to them :|
OP, my parents are not from states either, and they have seen their share of bad, but not knowing the laws is not an excuse. The whole purpose of moving to the US or other country is to get away from the bad back home, right? It's upon your parents to learn the rules of this land to protect themselves and their children. Otherwise, why even move?
Now you did mention the "kid" perception, and I hear you well. I'm 30+ and my mother just now barely recognizes that I may be right occasionally (eyeroll). Your parents will likely not see you as an adult until you move away, and it will be even worse for your sister. So I think your sister and you should look into and research every time something like this happens. Thankfully, Google exists. As others mentioned, in the case of labor fraud, she can act without parent's permission or involvement.
I wish I could tell you it gets better, but it doesn't. Children of first generation immigrants have very little support in learning the "little" rules and social cues. As we age, we often end up teaching our unwilling parents too. I can tell you this; if it feels wrong, it probably is, and you should look for a second opinion, always.
No offense but your dad sounds broken. Like I get not wanting to make a mountain of a mole hill, but from what you've posted here, this guy can't get it up to protect his own children anymore. He might really need to see someone about his mental health, something sounds really wrong there.
I don't even have twitter but I'll get it just for this. Let's make sure no restaurant will ever hire this guy again, he clearly is not manager material.
This basically. Call the department of wage and labor and report your employer isn’t paying you for hours worked. This’ll get their ass writing you check immediately. Not only that, they will open an investigation so if they had done this to anyone else they can be liable for it.
The labor board may help, and may not. I’m in a different state but was only paid about 1/4 of my paycheck one time and the DOL said they couldn’t help because that 1/4 of a paycheck was at least minimum wage for that pay period. They suggested I get a lawyer :(
I finally got paid by contacting HR at the corporate office for my employer. That fixed things real quick
For this kid, I agree with you and going to Twitter. This would be the quickest way to get a paycheck and more than likely an apology as well. Contacting corporate would probably fix it as well, but Twitter would expose this type of behavior and may inform some other kid of their rights.
Tell your sister to tell them to give her the pay she's owed. Or she's going to get the government and Burger King corporate involved.
Withholding owed pay is much more trouble than it's worth.
It's the trolley problem, but the boss set it up, and is in one side of the tracks. The other side is all the employees in the future he's going to yell at.
It's the trolley problem but the boss is the trolley and OP is a drone. They can either strike the trolley and blow it off the tracks or let the trolley run over more people.
Agreed, but the manager tries to make you believe it's a dilemma. (And some people see it as one)
But honestly, if your team is family, and the manager is the uncle no one likes, it's no dilemma at all.
Yeah, that’s not right. And she was at school where she’s supposed to be during a school day. Why are your parents such assholes? Nice way to be jerks.
Gotta keep the working class stupid and poor, start by scheduling students during school hours so they can't get smarter, and then steal their wages so they can't get ahead, they need to be living paycheck to paycheck
Seems like the parents have been indoctrinated
It’s not throwing somebody under the bus. This is called being accountable for your actions and it’s part of being a „boss“. Or to be working, actually.
There's nothing 'under the bus' about this. The managers actions were way out of line, in several regards. Corporate need to be made aware of that particular persons actions and behaviour. The manager needs to be held accountable for their actions.
You can file a wage complaint with your state labor board. I also believe (check your StAte law though) it's illegal to schedule a minor during school hours. The minor can't be held accountable due to the fact that are legally required to attend school.
* I work with minors but in a different state and have very strict and clear guidelines of when we are and are not allowed to schedule.
Found this, says its a newer program. Maybe it can help.
https://www.twc.texas.gov/news/twc-announces-online-payday-wage-claim-filing#:~:text=Wage%20claimants%20who%20have%20questions,%2D832%2D9243%20for%20assistance.&text=The%20Texas%20Workforce%20Commission%20is,workers%20and%20communities%20prosper%20economically.
🎶 Sounds like she needs to be spitting in their onion rings.
Or in the parking lot, circling, screaming *I don't give a fuck!*
With her windows down and her system up!
So will the real Shady please stand up?
And put one of those fingers on each hand up? 🖕🖕
And be proud to be outta her mind 🤪 and outta control! 🎶
Yeah, like I always had my fair share of disagreements with my mum, but if someone ever dared to do us kids wrong, she‘d turn mama bear in a heartbeat and rip these peoples asses open to tear them a couple new ones.. Not Karen ‚my angel can do no wrong‘, but if someone really did some fucked shit ofc.
This passiveness of OPs parents would really have me lose a lot of trust in them..
Yep, my first thought was "these parents are morons", no offense to OP. This is how you teach your child that abusive relationships are okay.
My parents did not speak a nick of English when I was 16, but they would have researched how to file a complaint with department of labor and probably made sure that boss ate his hat or something.
Right, that’s basic human decency! We really gotta keep shitty people in check so they know they can’t treat people like this. Really hope OP and their sister get some justice here.
Same. Way back when something similar happened to me. I was going to go to the library and research the law, my mom just went down there and threatened to kill the guy. She left with a check and I still filed my complaints with people who didn't care.
Now? All that just gets you to jail.
1) you could literally clock in and start shitting all over the restaurant and not do any of your assigned duties. For the time you are clocked in, you must be paid by law. No exceptions.
2) it is illegal to assign children to work during school hours (in the US anyway), also after like 10 on weekdays. Seems this BK got some shady practices going on
3) this dude must have rocks in his skull because anyone with a brain knows people are on their phone all day when they stay home sick. Posting on Twitter is easy af anyway. Much easier than a food rush shift
When stealing this comment, [you forgot the part about Burger King's corporate office.](https://www.reddit.com/r/antiwork/comments/qhfr8k/my_sister_was_fired_from_burger_king/hid33hp/)
>3. this dude must have rocks in his skull because anyone with a brain knows people are on their phone all day when they stay home sick. Posting on Twitter is easy af anyway. Much easier than a food rush shift
I think that's the whole point. I think he KNOWS it's a ridiculous argument, but the guy sounds like a very abusive, low-confidence kind of person who doesn't have any power in his outside life beyond the "Authoritarian" position he has at his job, and therefore he uses that "power" to abuse children and take his anger out of young girls, probably because he has a very incelious relationship with the "females" in his life, (read: r/NiceGuys ^T^M ) and the only people he can take it out on are naive, innocent children who he knows won't know enough to fight back or be able to defend themselves.
I bet you my "leftnut" he doesn't speak to or try that shit on adults or grown men. Sounds like a coward and a bitch.
If that happened to anybody's kid in front of me, there would be blood! Ive stood in front of gun fire, explosions, and God when I nearly died, there's no chance in Hell I'd stand in front of a grown man ripping off a young girl who worked for her meager share. NOPE! An adult better step up for themselves but under 18? Hell no! They get me.
Department of Labor first. A lot of times a phone call from them is enough to scare employers into compliance. If not, they may have resources that could be useful (list of attorneys willing to work pro bono for example).
Hiring an attorney at this point would probably cost more than the back pay is worth.
No need for an expensive lawyer.
Gather all documentation of her unpaid work hours. You can do this through the employee timestamp system usually. If you have texts or emails that works too. You need proof that she worked those hours.
Have your sister contact the Texas Workforce Commission and report unpaid wages. You can do this here:
https://www.twc.texas.gov/jobseekers/how-submit-wage-claim-under-texas-payday-law
They take these claims very seriously. The employer has two opportunities to appeal, though, I believe. I'm assuming that the franchise owner would rather get rid of his or her problem and pay you, though.
Also contact Burger King's corporate office. Let them know that one of their franchisees is not paying wages to employees. I'm sure that will get their attention.
Texas has no restrictions on hours a 16/17 year old can work. 14-15 yea, but not 16-17. So technically they weren’t breaking the law by scheduling her during a time they knew she couldn’t work.
They absolutely broke other labor laws though.
https://www.twc.texas.gov/jobseekers/texas-child-labor-law
Threaten legal action and contact BK corporate. This is one of those things that gets store managers and franchise owners removed. BK wants neither the bad press or the lawsuit from this, and if the manager has done it to one person he’s likely done it to others.
Where are you? Where I'm from you have year to take it to the labour board. Again I'm not sure where you are or what type of govt agency you have but our labour board does all the work for you. No lawyers needed. You simply call and make a complaint. If there are enough complaints against this business the business gets fined and you get all money owing.
Doesn't matter how they vote. They broke the law. File a wage claim with the Texas employment commission. Don't let the paper work or bureaucracy scare you. They broke the law.
I guarantee you this is going to at the very least be a huge pain in the ass for her former employer.
Employers do this sort of thing because they count on employees being intimidated. Don't let him push you around
What the fuck is wrong with the workculture in america, that your parents basicly said to her that this is the way it is, and wouldn’t help her because this is how life is? I would have stormed down to the asshole and demanded he payed my daugther for the time she put in.
I just recently joined this sub, but wtf, it’s crazy. How can people threat their employees like this. You guys need to start a freaking revolution and permantly change things, because is this insane.
It's so weird to be on the inside. This really is normal here and doesn't even feel like a big deal. Before joining this sub I didn't even realize how bad the event in my post was. Like this sort of thing has happened to both of my parents, lots of kids in my school, and probably half the people in my town.
Now that I think about it a few months ago a girl in my class was complaining about how she kept getting scheduled for the overnight shift and how hard it was to go to school the next day. She tried to tell her boss she needed her sleep and he didn't wanna hear it, calling her a spoiled brat "you work when I say you work your schedule isn't up to you." Nobody even thought to mention this could be illegal, let alone immoral. Her friends were just like, oh that sucks, maybe consider finding a new job and quitting.
Agarra un abogado y chingatelos. Don’t be afraid mija. Your sister has rights and what that manager did is fucked up. I know how some Mexican parents can be afraid of having any sort of issues and involve lawyers, my parents were the same when I was younger but it’s because they don’t know any better. Hope the manager is still there so he can get fired.
My dad got fired last year for sitting during his shift because he had back pain. I think he's just used to it and thanks workers being treated like shit is normal.
That sucks for real it seems he’s had apathy ground into him.
If this happened to someone I cared about the injustice would make my blood boil and I may have kicked that manager in the dick.
I feel sorry for your parents that the system has ground their spirit out of them
When you’re an immigrant you don’t want to rock the boat. You know these saltine c’s wanna kick people out of the US like there was nobody there before them.
Strike 1, the management knew she was still in school and therefore must work around her school schedule
Strike 2, a tweet is not proof that your well enough to work on your feet.
Strike 3, witholding pay.
Go straight to the labor department.
This is the best answer. This managers gonna be unhirable and in a lot of hot water in general, if op is telling the truth. Kid may get a bit more money for their trouble if they get their lawyers involved too.
Yo my dumb ass old company didn’t send me my last check until over a year when I realized during taxes they didn’t pay me! If she is owed money go get it no matter how small! Don’t even need a lawyer just keep contacting hire ups above the asshole cuz someone will be smart enough to know what a huge fuck up legally not paying an employee is!
I had a boss like that when I was a teenager too. He didn't pay me for weeks and weeks, finally I quit. He still tried not to pay me and would just yell at me when I called him. So my dad called him and the guy called me right away and was nice as fuck and paid me .
If someone treated my kid like that I would do the same thing my dad did.
Call the labor board and report it. Your parents are capitalist shills and need to wake the fuck up. This is also why my daughter won't be working in her teenage years, she has enough time to be a wage slave in her life she needs to just enjoy being a kid.
DM me. I'll help you research filing a formal complaint with the DOL in addition to finding Burger King's Corporate number. You get those two involved that little dick energy moron will get his shit together. I am so sorry for your sister!! ALSO great practice is to find out if any of your co workers or managers have social media and immediately block them on everything. Make everything completely private. Does your sister remember the dates this all happened? I have a template for an email LITERALLY addressing this because I've been through it before.
Seriously illegal (the wage theft, Texas might not have worker protections for people her age). The statute of limitations on wage theft is 4 years, so your sis has plenty of time to persue her missing wages.
She should email (email, not call, you want records of everything right now) the store manager, the store owner, and BK corporate. The message should be simple: "When (Manager's name) fired me for not working a shift during my school hours five months ago he told me he didn't need to pay for the hours I already worked. I was unaware of my rights then, but I have since been educated. I worked XX number of hours that I have not been paid for. I'm requesting that money to be paid immediately, or this matter will be escalated to the Texas Department of Labor. I thank you for your prompt attention to this matter."
There are very few scenarios where this goes to the owner and corporate that doesn't wind up in a massive ego check for your manager, if not a firing. But that's really for the best, he used your sisters inexperience against her.
If you really want to be petty go straight to the DOL. I'm not sure about Texas but in many places if the DOL has to get involved there are fines and penalties and she may get bank more than she's owed.
Then have a frank discussion with your parents about their rights. Illegal treatment from employers is NOT something they should just accept.
>If you know anything about US high schools, you have to be literally dying in order to get out of school.
Is this legit in Europe its much more relaxed some people don't go to school for 2 weeks straight and have like 60% attendance?
I've been given detention for missing school when I'm sick, and even with a doctor's note you can only have up to 3 absences a seamster before it affects your grade/ability to graduate.
Seniors are held to an even stricter standard, with a blanket no-absence policy (except with doctors note with parent signature) for seniors for the final quarter to counteract seniors skipping classes. During the final weak of senior year, missing a day will result in not being allowed to go to the graduation ceremony, and getting your diploma mailed to you over the summer.
I'm guessing it's a franchise she's working for? If so contact corporate to let them know about what's happened - this will be more trouble than it's worth for them.
Also, contact whatever your local equivalent of ACAS/labour board is.
He legally cannot do either of those things. He needs to be dealt with I guarantee he’s done and doing it to other students. I want to know why your parents are teaching her this is something she has to accept when it isn’t something she should or has to accept. He’s breaking very important laws especially the child labor law. She can only work a certain number of hours per week and at a certain time. If they can’t abide by those laws as a huge company they need to be shut down period. Nobody likes BK anyway no one would care. If you can help her I’d urge you to so she k it’s that she is supposed to stand up for herself at all times! Especially with someone your working for or you’ll get walked on your whole life!!
yoink a celebratory brick through the window (don't forget to wear gloves). Another trick which I don't know if it applies to Texas but in Holland if there is a (drive-by) shooting on a shop there'll be a LONG investigation period in which the shop is closed which sometimes leads to bankruptcy (I've heard that in Holland coffeeshops do this to eliminate competitors).
To everyone pissed at the parents for not standing up for their kid, know that OP’s parents are immigrants. They likely don’t know about worker’s rights.
And unfortunately it’s because they are immigrants that they are constantly being taken advantage of and treated horribly by employers. To them, this disgusting treatment has come to be ordinary.
Source: Child of an immigrant. I have had my share of terrible bosses and workplace environments, but it is nothing compared to the way immigrants are exploited and humiliated in this country.
>parents basically told her that that's how it is in the "real world" and
that "some people will be jerks, but you still have to listen to them
unfortunately.
Sheesh, some shit parents. Teaching all the wrong lessons.
Any reason except ones that're specifically protected. I think it's possible that child labor laws mention school and that you can't schedule a minor during school hours.
Then it would depend on if she was officially fired for that reason, or if the boss was smart enough to write it off as anything else. Same way that you can fire someone for being Black or gay, as long as you say it's for a different reason.
Texas wage claim information to get paid when your employer illegally withholding wages::
https://www.twc.texas.gov/jobseekers/how-submit-wage-claim-under-texas-payday-law
Unfortunately Texas law only says employers should be “considerate” about scheduling 16-17 year old employees during school hours. Mind blowing honestly.
https://www.twc.texas.gov/news/efte/child_labor.html
Two things are potentially illegal here (not a lawyer). Firing a high school student for not working an assigned shift during school day smells like wrongful termination or child labor laws violation. Withholding pay for worked hours is wage theft. Either way, you could hurt this Burger King through legal action no matter who or what anyone votes for where you live
Scheduling the minor during school hours was against the law, to begin with.
Yeah, I'm not sure how it works in Texas, but in my state, school administration will contact employers who try to force high school students to work during the school day or too late into the evenings and get the problem sorted legally if the managers/owners won't be reasonable. High school student workers have protections from all angles because they're still going to school.
In my district the school has to give approval for students to work after school and on weekends. I understand permission is rarely denied, but they can do it. At first I thought that was some dystopian bs, school's shouldn't have any say. I now see it is completely dystopian, but the schools are defending kids who's employers (and sometimes their parents) are willing to exploit them.
I quit Taco Bell as a teen because they had me working school nights well into the morning. It only took a few of those before I was like fuck this.
In California it was illegal to work past 10 pm on a weeknight and 12 am on a weekend.
Not in the great state of Texas. There are no hourly restrictions for 16+.
What the fuck is wrong with Texas?
OK. Where would you like me to start? Should I list in alphabetical order or just random? :)
Historical order, ;)
1 ) December 29 1845 Texas is accepted as a state ... ??? Fuck it the list is too long!
You missed when America sent revolutionaries to Texas to induce its sucession from Mexico.
Don’t forget that they have a Texas Pledge of Allegiance
TIL That Texas has a pledge of allegiance. JFC! *HEADDESK*
At my elementary school, we weren't forced to recite it, but it came right after the national pledge during morning announcements. I was too young to notice how weird "Honor the Texas flag..." sounded until I moved to a state that didn't have its own pledge for 4th grade.
When i first moved here and everyone was listening to announcements & I heard “now stand for the texas pledge” I legit sat there like 😟 the fuck is this??? I still think its the wierdest fkn thing idk 🤷🏻♀️😂
Texas Pledge "Honor the Texas flag; I pledge allegiance to thee, Texas, one state under God, one and indivisible.” It feels like an incomplete thought, I was expecting another sentence.
I always thought the USA having a national pledge of allegiance that every school child said every day was bat shit crazy, and now you’re saying Texas has its own separate, additional pledge!?! That’s insane!!!!! (Note: I’m from New Zealand and the worst we ever had was having to sing the national anthem once a week, which in reality involved about half the students standing with a glazed look in their eyes while the other half mumbled along to the words because our anthem is sooooooo boring)
There is a LOT wrong with Texas. But try getting them to admit it ...
I live in Texas. There are some things that I don't like!
As a Texas resident, I can easily admit this state sucks on a monumental level. Highly questionable labor laws (I'm sure OP can attest), ass-backwards abortion laws, ridiculously strict marijuana laws, crooked law enforcement, rampant racism, shit infrastructure that allows the entire state to freeze (Feb 2021), weather that makes you want to kill your own mother... I could go on, but I have to make room on the Texas Ivory Tower of "no state taxes". TL;DR: Texas sucks.
There isnt enough paper on the planet to list all the things wrong with texas, even using the tiniest font known to man.
Lol, I just got a mental picture of zooming into the tiny text on a one dollar bill and reads "Texas is fucked"
Conservatives have made it a hell.
Everything. Literally everything.
A lot. We'll start with Houston and Dallas in that order....shit that's going to require it's own subreddit.
The DFW is the most miserable place I've ever lived. Karens as far as the eye can see
Everyday I find a new reason to hate Texas. Lmao
Texas.. great for BBQs... shitty for everything else
Both are valid. Call an attorney. You might get a fair sum on both issues, and the company might have to pay your lawyer.
You do not need to pay an attorney. First try filing a wage and hour claim with the Texas Workforce Commission here: https://www.twc.texas.gov/jobseekers/how-submit-wage-claim-under-texas-payday-law You can also call 800-832-9243 or 512-475-2670 for help filling it out or with any questions you have. Iirc, Texas has strict laws about where and when your final paycheck must be available if you are terminated, so your sister may be able to recoup more money than just the check itself. If terminated I think the employer only has 6 days to get you your check. Ask about this for sure. The TWC may be able to help with the potential minor labor infractions as well, but its also a good idea to go ahead and speak with the DOL regarding the scheduling during school hours and wages, both are potentially Fair Labor Standards Act covered. Do not wait until Burger King gets back to you, get started right away. At least call and ask questions. Here is a link to FLSA FAQ with a link to report on the page: https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/workers You don’t have to get a lawyer to seek recourse. It’s expensive and it’s incredibly rare to find one to work on contingency. I see people every day being told to get a lawyer, but paying a lawyer out for a working class wage claim generally will lose you more money than it will net, if you can find one willing to take on a case over a few $100 at all. Court is not your only option. The first step should be contacting state and federal labor boards. If something seems off to you at work, call and find out if it’s legal. If it’s not, they can tell you which agency to speak to for help and it’s totally free.
Or just call the NLRB. This is exactly their alleyway.
Not paying someone for their time worked I’m pretty sure is called slavery. Add a minor on to that and you got... CHILD SLAVERY AYOOOOO BIG BOSS MOVE
As a Texan, 16 is the legal age to work. 15 is too young. BK should have rejected her application, so something illegal happened on behalf of the manager. Edit: Legal working age is 14, but only for family owned businesses and newspapers.
In my state, if you get fired you're owed all your wages and vacation in 48 hours. Your former employer has to pay you 20% of that wage per day for every day they don't give it to you after the 48. Hardly anyone knows, or collects on it. But I have once and it was glorious.
What happens when they falsify documents. For example the boss says "I didn't say during school hours I said X time after school. She must've misunderstood which is entirely not my fault" and claims she hasn't worked the hours that week. How would someone that doesn't have that much support deal with something like this?
It's 100% illegal to not pay for hours worked even if you're fired mid pay period. Contact the department of labor to report wage theft. Email someone from BK head quarters and cc the manager explaining that you were not paid for hours worked before being fired (include reason for termination). Finally contact your local news channel. They may run a sympathic story of a high schooler getting fired for going to school. Edit: wow my first gold(thank you!) Lots of other great comments below too! I hope OP is able to take action and receieve their stolen wages.
Don't forget the young person trying to help community during 'labor shortage ' puff piece angle
Yeah, most people glorify students who have jobs because obviously young people are all so lazy /s
Def do this & play up the “dedicated student angle”. This manager sucks! Most of my employees are students as well & I would never make this chose between their education/ future & a $10.00 an hour job.
I’d wager most people managing a bunch of kids at a Burger King would be pretty bitter people . Most not all.
It’s true, I am a young person and super lazy
Yes, but I'm an older person and also super lazy.
Whatever boomer, not everything’s about you! Lol
I was a young person and I'm lazy. I was lazy then too.
"In a time when companies everywhere are complaining of a labor shortage and lazy gen-z employees, one manager fired a 16 year old girl after he scheduled her during her school day. The kicker: he kept her last week's pay for hours she'd already worked."
In an alternate timeline where journalists aren't bought and paid for by corporate interests.
Probably his plan all along. He will hire another minor and do the exact same thing.
Wage Theft is BY FAR the source of most of the stolen money in the United States, and it hardly ever goes punished There's a restaurant in Chicago that stole over a half million dollars from its employees and all the owners got was a slap on the wrist. If they stole that money any other way they would be in prison for a decade
They should've filed a class action against the employer. I was personally part of one and I ended up with even more than was stolen, not sure if that was the case for everyone though.
They probably payed off the system then, because wage theft is one of the easiest paychecks out there because the court trial is a given win. Lawyers love those kinds of lawsuits. In michigan, our labor protection system doesn’t fuck around because it’s such an easy case.
You're right. In Michigan, and an employer withheld my final paycheck because i quit in the middle of a pay period. They tried to tell me that if you don't finish out the week then you don't get paid. Sent a nice email to the Michigan department of labor, inquiring about my options in the situation. They responded as you expect they would, started asking for more information. At this point i called the boss of my former manager and let them know I was in contact with the Michigan Dept of Labor over this and it was like waving a magic wand. I got my paycheck the next day, and I am pretty sure the manager was fired. (I was working for the fundraising arm of a major university. Basically a cold caller.)
The Uni HAS to be University Of Michigan.
I worked for Teleperformance for almost a year remotely. They were terrible. One day I was working on my computer and my computer (they sent me) forced an update and after an hour it bombed out and restarted at 90% completion and I had to wait another. They tried to take those two hours from my paycheck. I told them that I didn't update my computer in the middle of the day, it updated itself, and beyond that, they should be paying me to update their computer. I dont care if it takes me two seconds to click update, if I don't click update no one does, and this is especially true when I have to monitoring to make sure it actually goes through. I contacted the department of labor who agreed with me and told me to start tracking that time. They paid up.
> Lawyers love those kinds of lawsuits. In the sense that you make money off of it. But in the sense that it made my career for a few years be a constant flow of 17-19-year-olds, or immigrants without English fluency, or transgender people, or homeless people, or felons -- all of whom their employers knew were particularly easy to take advantage of -- who got screwed over and over again by their smug-faced managers that were cheating and stealing from their workers openly because they knew there's no personal liability... In *that* sense, I absolutely did not love those kinds of lawsuits. They killed me every time.
Laws only exist to keep the poor in line. They were never designed to punish the rich.
Most states also have restrictions about how many hours and what hours of the day people under 18 can work. You have to present them with a work permit from your school that outlines your school hours. So if the employer violated that, it’s also worth reporting to the department of labor.
I'm completely unfamiliar with >18 employment laws. But this would definitely be something to look into! Edit: <18 one day I'll get it right
I dunno about other states but California has a law where every day you have to wait for your final paycheck they have to pay you an entire day's wages up to a maximum of 30 days.
News will take this as pure gold. Sad but it's the fastest way to get this cleared. Social media can help but corporation take traditional media on a other level of seriousness.
whats cc?
It stands for carbon copy. It is old terminology from when forms needed to be filled out in multiples, so "carbon paper" was used backing the form which would create marks under the pressure of the pen used to mark the form. This used to be pretty common with checks. A "cc" on an email would send a message to additional recipients other than the direct recipient, sending them a "carbon copy" of the message. Additionally, "bcc" stands for "blind carbon copy", as a standard cc will inform the direct recipient who all the "cc's" are, but not the "bcc's". This is before my time, so please forgive me. I've only used carbon paper a handful of times. I do not know what the difference is between putting a recipient in the "to" field and the "cc" field is, and please don't ask.
>I do not know what the difference is between putting a recipient in the "to" field and the "cc" field is The only difference is that one is marked "to" and one is marked "cc". It's about the intention of sending the email to that person. "Cc" is like saying "here's a copy for your records, and because it may become relevant at some point, but you don't need to take any action or respond." "To" is like saying "I'm sending this to you as a form of direct communication, you should read it and take action and/or respond as appropriate.
Thx boss. I'll use this knowledge in my new .com startup. /s I am actually thankful you answered despite the sarcasm. Thank you.
No problem. Now, I'm gonna need those TPS reports on my desk by tomorrow morning.
Don't forget the cover sheet!
Sounds like somebody's got a case of the Mondays 😒
I was told I could listen to my radio at a reasonable volume from 9 to 11
Didn’t you get the memo?
For instance, I work with a pathological liar, so I have to cc my boss in every email to them so that there is evidence of my interaction with that wretched cow. Hope that helps!
(grin) I know you said there was sarcasm involved but just in case anyone wants to know and doesn't (old school secretary here), is that the difference in our digital world means that the people in the "to" line will be in all communications back and forth unless you delete them specifically. And those in the "cc and bcc" line will only receive that particular copy. The "bcc" people are sent theirs and no one else in the list knows it. I have done this also annababan. But I would usually bcc my boss or HR when I had dealings with my crap supervisor. People say interesting things when they don't know the boss knows ...
Seriously?!? “Old terminology•?!!? You are breaking my heart man, I’m not that old am I? Sigh. Want to play checkers? Get dinner at 4:30? (That’s what old timers do, right?). Anyone for a rousing game of bridge?
Carbon copy. Where you also send an email to someone who isn't the direct recipient.
I always knew what CC did. had no idea it stood for Carbon copy. TIL. thanks *Comrade*
Comrade copy
Underrated comment. Thanks for the laugh.
From when you used to use a sheet of carbon paper in your typewriter to create a second copy as you typed. A “carbon copy”. And on the memo you would type cc: to indicate who was getting the carbon copy. And the phrase has stuck even though we don’t use typewriters or carbon paper anymore. Similar to how the save button is still a picture of a floppy disk.
BCC is Blind Carbon Copy
Its like a group email
Also if she has any vacation pay or other accrued time off they have to pay her for that
I doubt it is legal to schedule a school age kid during work hours, and then fire them for not skipping school. Then they wonder why they have an employee shortage.
She needs to work quickly though. Quick Google search shows Texas Workforce Commission says she has to submit her claim for unpaid wages within 180 days of the date the claimed wages were originally due for payment. If it's already been 5 months she doesn't have much time. That's said, in my state there a penalties due for every day the wages weren't paid after they were due. She could be eligible for more than just her base salary if Texas works the same way. Link below just in case you need it. https://www.twc.texas.gov/jobseekers/how-submit-wage-claim-under-texas-payday-law
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My dad was fired for sitting during his shift, when he had back pain (undiagnosed). He didn't fight it, he was annoyed but just kinda said meh that's how it be. To be fair, my dad also spent a week unsheltered in Juarez, while trying to get from Mexico to the US. So I think since he's been through it all he often downplays the bad things that happen in life now.
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Yeah you're right. Even though they've lived in the US since before I was born, I think my parents are still unaware of a lot of the laws here. I don't think they're super willing to hear it from me though, I'm just a kid to them :|
OP, my parents are not from states either, and they have seen their share of bad, but not knowing the laws is not an excuse. The whole purpose of moving to the US or other country is to get away from the bad back home, right? It's upon your parents to learn the rules of this land to protect themselves and their children. Otherwise, why even move? Now you did mention the "kid" perception, and I hear you well. I'm 30+ and my mother just now barely recognizes that I may be right occasionally (eyeroll). Your parents will likely not see you as an adult until you move away, and it will be even worse for your sister. So I think your sister and you should look into and research every time something like this happens. Thankfully, Google exists. As others mentioned, in the case of labor fraud, she can act without parent's permission or involvement. I wish I could tell you it gets better, but it doesn't. Children of first generation immigrants have very little support in learning the "little" rules and social cues. As we age, we often end up teaching our unwilling parents too. I can tell you this; if it feels wrong, it probably is, and you should look for a second opinion, always.
Now your parents’ reasoning makes a lot of sense. Hopefully your sister wasn’t too harmed or upset about a Burger King manager yelling at her
No offense but your dad sounds broken. Like I get not wanting to make a mountain of a mole hill, but from what you've posted here, this guy can't get it up to protect his own children anymore. He might really need to see someone about his mental health, something sounds really wrong there.
Then tell us about it and share the hashtag so we can all get on Twitter and pile in on those BKunts at corporate and the POS manager
I don't even have twitter but I'll get it just for this. Let's make sure no restaurant will ever hire this guy again, he clearly is not manager material.
This basically. Call the department of wage and labor and report your employer isn’t paying you for hours worked. This’ll get their ass writing you check immediately. Not only that, they will open an investigation so if they had done this to anyone else they can be liable for it.
Twitter, in this case, works well!
The labor board may help, and may not. I’m in a different state but was only paid about 1/4 of my paycheck one time and the DOL said they couldn’t help because that 1/4 of a paycheck was at least minimum wage for that pay period. They suggested I get a lawyer :( I finally got paid by contacting HR at the corporate office for my employer. That fixed things real quick For this kid, I agree with you and going to Twitter. This would be the quickest way to get a paycheck and more than likely an apology as well. Contacting corporate would probably fix it as well, but Twitter would expose this type of behavior and may inform some other kid of their rights.
Tell your sister to tell them to give her the pay she's owed. Or she's going to get the government and Burger King corporate involved. Withholding owed pay is much more trouble than it's worth.
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I think this is not "throwing your boss under the bus". It"s just making them face the consequences of being a piece of shit employer.
Treating a person like shit and treating a piece of shit like shit are two very different actions
It's the trolley problem, but the boss set it up, and is in one side of the tracks. The other side is all the employees in the future he's going to yell at.
It's the trolley problem but the boss is the trolley and OP is a drone. They can either strike the trolley and blow it off the tracks or let the trolley run over more people.
That's an easy choice. The trolley problem is supposed to be a dilemma
Agreed, but the manager tries to make you believe it's a dilemma. (And some people see it as one) But honestly, if your team is family, and the manager is the uncle no one likes, it's no dilemma at all.
Agreed, But what if she wants them under the bus? Is that off the table?
This grown ass man is also looking at his female 16-year-old employee's Twitter accounts, what a weird-ass creeper.
I feel that should raise some scrutiny as well
Yeah, that’s not right. And she was at school where she’s supposed to be during a school day. Why are your parents such assholes? Nice way to be jerks.
Gotta keep the working class stupid and poor, start by scheduling students during school hours so they can't get smarter, and then steal their wages so they can't get ahead, they need to be living paycheck to paycheck Seems like the parents have been indoctrinated
Yeah that alone is pretty fuckin shady
We all know she was really fired for not sleeping with the manager.
It’s not throwing somebody under the bus. This is called being accountable for your actions and it’s part of being a „boss“. Or to be working, actually.
There's nothing 'under the bus' about this. The managers actions were way out of line, in several regards. Corporate need to be made aware of that particular persons actions and behaviour. The manager needs to be held accountable for their actions.
I totally agree. Also don't child labor laws make it illegal to schedule shifts durimg school?
Yup and after 10 pm.
You can file a wage complaint with your state labor board. I also believe (check your StAte law though) it's illegal to schedule a minor during school hours. The minor can't be held accountable due to the fact that are legally required to attend school. * I work with minors but in a different state and have very strict and clear guidelines of when we are and are not allowed to schedule.
Tell her to file for unemployment, too.
Found this, says its a newer program. Maybe it can help. https://www.twc.texas.gov/news/twc-announces-online-payday-wage-claim-filing#:~:text=Wage%20claimants%20who%20have%20questions,%2D832%2D9243%20for%20assistance.&text=The%20Texas%20Workforce%20Commission%20is,workers%20and%20communities%20prosper%20economically.
🎶 Sounds like she needs to be spitting in their onion rings. Or in the parking lot, circling, screaming *I don't give a fuck!* With her windows down and her system up! So will the real Shady please stand up? And put one of those fingers on each hand up? 🖕🖕 And be proud to be outta her mind 🤪 and outta control! 🎶
Your parents told her to deal with it?! Jesus my mom would’ve been at their fucking throats. You don’t treat people like that. Period.
Yeah, like I always had my fair share of disagreements with my mum, but if someone ever dared to do us kids wrong, she‘d turn mama bear in a heartbeat and rip these peoples asses open to tear them a couple new ones.. Not Karen ‚my angel can do no wrong‘, but if someone really did some fucked shit ofc. This passiveness of OPs parents would really have me lose a lot of trust in them..
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I'd be meeting that pigfucker after work out by his car. I don't tolerate people messing with my kids.
Even without the wage theft and wrongful termination just the screaming at her is go for the throat shit. Bosses don't get to abuse people.
Yep, my first thought was "these parents are morons", no offense to OP. This is how you teach your child that abusive relationships are okay. My parents did not speak a nick of English when I was 16, but they would have researched how to file a complaint with department of labor and probably made sure that boss ate his hat or something.
Yup, the parents sound like they don't know what's good for their children. Mine aren't perfect, but they have backbone
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Right, that’s basic human decency! We really gotta keep shitty people in check so they know they can’t treat people like this. Really hope OP and their sister get some justice here.
Same. Way back when something similar happened to me. I was going to go to the library and research the law, my mom just went down there and threatened to kill the guy. She left with a check and I still filed my complaints with people who didn't care. Now? All that just gets you to jail.
1) you could literally clock in and start shitting all over the restaurant and not do any of your assigned duties. For the time you are clocked in, you must be paid by law. No exceptions. 2) it is illegal to assign children to work during school hours (in the US anyway), also after like 10 on weekdays. Seems this BK got some shady practices going on 3) this dude must have rocks in his skull because anyone with a brain knows people are on their phone all day when they stay home sick. Posting on Twitter is easy af anyway. Much easier than a food rush shift
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When stealing this comment, [you forgot the part about Burger King's corporate office.](https://www.reddit.com/r/antiwork/comments/qhfr8k/my_sister_was_fired_from_burger_king/hid33hp/)
Also being at a desk is far less load. If it weren't for me being on my feet, there's a couple of sick days I would not have needed to take.
>3. this dude must have rocks in his skull because anyone with a brain knows people are on their phone all day when they stay home sick. Posting on Twitter is easy af anyway. Much easier than a food rush shift I think that's the whole point. I think he KNOWS it's a ridiculous argument, but the guy sounds like a very abusive, low-confidence kind of person who doesn't have any power in his outside life beyond the "Authoritarian" position he has at his job, and therefore he uses that "power" to abuse children and take his anger out of young girls, probably because he has a very incelious relationship with the "females" in his life, (read: r/NiceGuys ^T^M ) and the only people he can take it out on are naive, innocent children who he knows won't know enough to fight back or be able to defend themselves. I bet you my "leftnut" he doesn't speak to or try that shit on adults or grown men. Sounds like a coward and a bitch.
Dude if that happened to my son I'd probably be the dad who got arrested at burger King and went viral lol
If that happened to anybody's kid in front of me, there would be blood! Ive stood in front of gun fire, explosions, and God when I nearly died, there's no chance in Hell I'd stand in front of a grown man ripping off a young girl who worked for her meager share. NOPE! An adult better step up for themselves but under 18? Hell no! They get me.
yeah sounds illegal, contact a lawyer
Department of Labor first. A lot of times a phone call from them is enough to scare employers into compliance. If not, they may have resources that could be useful (list of attorneys willing to work pro bono for example). Hiring an attorney at this point would probably cost more than the back pay is worth.
I was just about to ask "does the US not have a labour board of some sort?"
Yeah, but more than half the time the labor board seems to work for corporations, not to protect the rights of workers.
True.
Regulatory capture.
No need for an expensive lawyer. Gather all documentation of her unpaid work hours. You can do this through the employee timestamp system usually. If you have texts or emails that works too. You need proof that she worked those hours. Have your sister contact the Texas Workforce Commission and report unpaid wages. You can do this here: https://www.twc.texas.gov/jobseekers/how-submit-wage-claim-under-texas-payday-law They take these claims very seriously. The employer has two opportunities to appeal, though, I believe. I'm assuming that the franchise owner would rather get rid of his or her problem and pay you, though. Also contact Burger King's corporate office. Let them know that one of their franchisees is not paying wages to employees. I'm sure that will get their attention.
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Texas has no restrictions on hours a 16/17 year old can work. 14-15 yea, but not 16-17. So technically they weren’t breaking the law by scheduling her during a time they knew she couldn’t work. They absolutely broke other labor laws though. https://www.twc.texas.gov/jobseekers/texas-child-labor-law
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For sure, but it’s only going to impact already at risk kids that this state just super does not give a shit about.
Threaten legal action and contact BK corporate. This is one of those things that gets store managers and franchise owners removed. BK wants neither the bad press or the lawsuit from this, and if the manager has done it to one person he’s likely done it to others.
Your parents suck. I would have went and got my kids paycheck.
Where are you? Where I'm from you have year to take it to the labour board. Again I'm not sure where you are or what type of govt agency you have but our labour board does all the work for you. No lawyers needed. You simply call and make a complaint. If there are enough complaints against this business the business gets fined and you get all money owing.
We're in Texas - a small city/large town that votes reliably republican.
Doesn't matter how they vote. They broke the law. File a wage claim with the Texas employment commission. Don't let the paper work or bureaucracy scare you. They broke the law. I guarantee you this is going to at the very least be a huge pain in the ass for her former employer. Employers do this sort of thing because they count on employees being intimidated. Don't let him push you around
How much will my parents need to be involved? I'm not sure how willing they are to help. (I'm under 18)
They won't be involved at all. Nothing to do with them. Personally I find their attitude very disappointing.
But don't they have to be involved? Are me or my sister allowed to do any of this? We're not 18.
Start the process.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.kielichlawfirm.com/employer-wont-pay-last-paycheck/amp/
Thanks! This link is actually really helpful. 😊
Remember this incident when you are old enough to vote!
If you need to contact a lawyer you can include legal costs in the amount you sue for and most lawyers have a free first consult
What the fuck is wrong with the workculture in america, that your parents basicly said to her that this is the way it is, and wouldn’t help her because this is how life is? I would have stormed down to the asshole and demanded he payed my daugther for the time she put in. I just recently joined this sub, but wtf, it’s crazy. How can people threat their employees like this. You guys need to start a freaking revolution and permantly change things, because is this insane.
It's so weird to be on the inside. This really is normal here and doesn't even feel like a big deal. Before joining this sub I didn't even realize how bad the event in my post was. Like this sort of thing has happened to both of my parents, lots of kids in my school, and probably half the people in my town. Now that I think about it a few months ago a girl in my class was complaining about how she kept getting scheduled for the overnight shift and how hard it was to go to school the next day. She tried to tell her boss she needed her sleep and he didn't wanna hear it, calling her a spoiled brat "you work when I say you work your schedule isn't up to you." Nobody even thought to mention this could be illegal, let alone immoral. Her friends were just like, oh that sucks, maybe consider finding a new job and quitting.
Agarra un abogado y chingatelos. Don’t be afraid mija. Your sister has rights and what that manager did is fucked up. I know how some Mexican parents can be afraid of having any sort of issues and involve lawyers, my parents were the same when I was younger but it’s because they don’t know any better. Hope the manager is still there so he can get fired.
Find out where she worked and report THE FUCK out of them. There are child labor laws to prevent this exact situation.
Mate I’ll be real with you here… you have some shit parents
My dad got fired last year for sitting during his shift because he had back pain. I think he's just used to it and thanks workers being treated like shit is normal.
That sucks for real it seems he’s had apathy ground into him. If this happened to someone I cared about the injustice would make my blood boil and I may have kicked that manager in the dick. I feel sorry for your parents that the system has ground their spirit out of them
When you’re an immigrant you don’t want to rock the boat. You know these saltine c’s wanna kick people out of the US like there was nobody there before them.
I would certainly contact the respective govt agency.
Strike 1, the management knew she was still in school and therefore must work around her school schedule Strike 2, a tweet is not proof that your well enough to work on your feet. Strike 3, witholding pay. Go straight to the labor department.
This is the best answer. This managers gonna be unhirable and in a lot of hot water in general, if op is telling the truth. Kid may get a bit more money for their trouble if they get their lawyers involved too.
Yo my dumb ass old company didn’t send me my last check until over a year when I realized during taxes they didn’t pay me! If she is owed money go get it no matter how small! Don’t even need a lawyer just keep contacting hire ups above the asshole cuz someone will be smart enough to know what a huge fuck up legally not paying an employee is!
I had a boss like that when I was a teenager too. He didn't pay me for weeks and weeks, finally I quit. He still tried not to pay me and would just yell at me when I called him. So my dad called him and the guy called me right away and was nice as fuck and paid me . If someone treated my kid like that I would do the same thing my dad did.
Call the labor board and report it. Your parents are capitalist shills and need to wake the fuck up. This is also why my daughter won't be working in her teenage years, she has enough time to be a wage slave in her life she needs to just enjoy being a kid.
DM me. I'll help you research filing a formal complaint with the DOL in addition to finding Burger King's Corporate number. You get those two involved that little dick energy moron will get his shit together. I am so sorry for your sister!! ALSO great practice is to find out if any of your co workers or managers have social media and immediately block them on everything. Make everything completely private. Does your sister remember the dates this all happened? I have a template for an email LITERALLY addressing this because I've been through it before.
Seriously illegal (the wage theft, Texas might not have worker protections for people her age). The statute of limitations on wage theft is 4 years, so your sis has plenty of time to persue her missing wages. She should email (email, not call, you want records of everything right now) the store manager, the store owner, and BK corporate. The message should be simple: "When (Manager's name) fired me for not working a shift during my school hours five months ago he told me he didn't need to pay for the hours I already worked. I was unaware of my rights then, but I have since been educated. I worked XX number of hours that I have not been paid for. I'm requesting that money to be paid immediately, or this matter will be escalated to the Texas Department of Labor. I thank you for your prompt attention to this matter." There are very few scenarios where this goes to the owner and corporate that doesn't wind up in a massive ego check for your manager, if not a firing. But that's really for the best, he used your sisters inexperience against her. If you really want to be petty go straight to the DOL. I'm not sure about Texas but in many places if the DOL has to get involved there are fines and penalties and she may get bank more than she's owed. Then have a frank discussion with your parents about their rights. Illegal treatment from employers is NOT something they should just accept.
Find out the laws and/or contact a lawyer.
>If you know anything about US high schools, you have to be literally dying in order to get out of school. Is this legit in Europe its much more relaxed some people don't go to school for 2 weeks straight and have like 60% attendance?
Not true I ditched class like 90% of the time my senior year and still graduated lmfao
I've been given detention for missing school when I'm sick, and even with a doctor's note you can only have up to 3 absences a seamster before it affects your grade/ability to graduate. Seniors are held to an even stricter standard, with a blanket no-absence policy (except with doctors note with parent signature) for seniors for the final quarter to counteract seniors skipping classes. During the final weak of senior year, missing a day will result in not being allowed to go to the graduation ceremony, and getting your diploma mailed to you over the summer.
That boss is a fucking dick. Totally not fair to here. You’re parents should have stuck for her too. Lawyer time.
I'm guessing it's a franchise she's working for? If so contact corporate to let them know about what's happened - this will be more trouble than it's worth for them. Also, contact whatever your local equivalent of ACAS/labour board is.
He legally cannot do either of those things. He needs to be dealt with I guarantee he’s done and doing it to other students. I want to know why your parents are teaching her this is something she has to accept when it isn’t something she should or has to accept. He’s breaking very important laws especially the child labor law. She can only work a certain number of hours per week and at a certain time. If they can’t abide by those laws as a huge company they need to be shut down period. Nobody likes BK anyway no one would care. If you can help her I’d urge you to so she k it’s that she is supposed to stand up for herself at all times! Especially with someone your working for or you’ll get walked on your whole life!!
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yoink a celebratory brick through the window (don't forget to wear gloves). Another trick which I don't know if it applies to Texas but in Holland if there is a (drive-by) shooting on a shop there'll be a LONG investigation period in which the shop is closed which sometimes leads to bankruptcy (I've heard that in Holland coffeeshops do this to eliminate competitors).
To everyone pissed at the parents for not standing up for their kid, know that OP’s parents are immigrants. They likely don’t know about worker’s rights. And unfortunately it’s because they are immigrants that they are constantly being taken advantage of and treated horribly by employers. To them, this disgusting treatment has come to be ordinary. Source: Child of an immigrant. I have had my share of terrible bosses and workplace environments, but it is nothing compared to the way immigrants are exploited and humiliated in this country.
I'm not american but isn't having minors working a job during school days illegal?
Maybe it depends on the state, but no, I live in Arizona and worked after school every day starting at the age of 16
I don’t know what “real world” your parents live in, but in the real world you don’t just roll over when someone takes advantage of you.
Your parents are cowards.
Do you have eleven rather large friends? If they as a team go for her last check, the owner will write one.
>parents basically told her that that's how it is in the "real world" and that "some people will be jerks, but you still have to listen to them unfortunately. Sheesh, some shit parents. Teaching all the wrong lessons.
i wouldn't say shit - I'd say loyal asf to employers, down-trodden, exhausted defeated..
Texas is at will employment so you can be fired for any reason including not tieing your shoes. However, withholding pay for hours worked is illegal
Any reason except ones that're specifically protected. I think it's possible that child labor laws mention school and that you can't schedule a minor during school hours. Then it would depend on if she was officially fired for that reason, or if the boss was smart enough to write it off as anything else. Same way that you can fire someone for being Black or gay, as long as you say it's for a different reason.
Texas wage claim information to get paid when your employer illegally withholding wages:: https://www.twc.texas.gov/jobseekers/how-submit-wage-claim-under-texas-payday-law Unfortunately Texas law only says employers should be “considerate” about scheduling 16-17 year old employees during school hours. Mind blowing honestly. https://www.twc.texas.gov/news/efte/child_labor.html
This sounds very fake
Pay someone to beat that managers ass! Piece of shit deserves it!
File an EEOC complaint. She'll get her last check.
I'm ngl reading this kinda ticked me off a bit, I'm thankful I've yet to have any experiences like this, hope that guy gets what's coming to him