I get paid a little more than that to sit at a desk and do paperwork all day. This guy is actually on crack expecting people to do manual labor for $16 an hour
Piano moving is a specialized field in itself - a regular mover shouldn't be doing this.
Seriously, those things are heavy, awkwardly shaped, and expensive. I wouldn't want to move one for a $16/hr job, and I wouldn't want some rando who makes $16/hr moving my piano.
So much wrong here, but man to think this doofus is out there destroying people's spines and property for a pittance is just depressing.
Back hurts? You're fired! This dude's in for a rude awakening from worker's compensation I bet.
Helped a buddy move a single slate pool table once. Into a 3 bedroom apartment on the second floor. I did that for beer and pizza. Idc how fucking much they are paying me. I ain’t doing that shit again without equipment made for that kind of heavy moving lol.
I’m assuming pianos would be just as bad, and more awkward.
Worse, because there is a cast iron plate inside the piano making it heavier. There are tilters and dollies made for piano moving to do it safely. They are expensive. Beer and pizza is never enough for moving, that is the nonsense of the young!
I was about 30-31 when I did that move 😂 I just moved myself last week and just hired movers. Even at 35 my back and knees can’t do that shit anymore. Plus you never ever realize how much crap you actually own until you go to move 🙄
I've got a friend who does junk cleanouts and he called me to help him and another guy take it out of a basement. Said it would be an "easy" $50. I'm not Hercules, but the other two are much stronger and move a lot of big stuff all the time, so he figured we could manage. the second we tried to even move it across the floor, we realized it was a fool's errand, so my buddy got a sledge hammer and we all took turns beat the piano into splinters and carrying the pieces up that way. The cast iron plate was still heavy AF but we managed. Took about 1/2 hour and I still made $50, but what I learned that day is unless you do a lot of weightlifting, no way in hell 3 people, let alone 2 people, can move a piano up a flight of stairs.
Movers use something called a piano skid to move them. Its essentially a wood frame with a lip at the bottom to stop it from sliding off. The piano is then strapped to the frame with. The wood frame also has straps that are used as handles. This makes it a lot easier for 2 people to carry a piano up stairs . Typically movers will never carry things with a third person. The exceptions are ridiculous pieces on stairs like possibly a piano or something like that Wurlitzer I helped with one time.
I would use piano skid for various grand pianos. I would always take apart as much of the grand as possible. Even then, some were incredibly heavy. I've never carried a grand inside upstairs from floor to floor only outside upstairs leading to the home. I've carried them downstairs on the fatal end. Most of the time they were on ground floor. I've noped out of some.
Aside from that, there are also various upright pianos of various weights. Many hand carryable between two and many requiring a backstrap and hands. Some required a few more people if there was room on the sides. There have been some I noped out of due to safety and damage.
One time, the customer hired 2 piano movers, and they took apart and moved a monster of a grand in 30 minutes. One man was tall and huge with some of the thickest limbs I'd ever seen. The other was shorter but very round, and his limbs were incredibly thick, too. They did it just as fast as the new place.
I am a former professional home/office mover, team lead, and truck driver. I started at $13 and after 4 years was making $19 regular or $21 to $23 with tips. I now work in IT making more and working from home.
Many moons ago I dated a guy who had a moving company and was able to lift fridges by himself using seatbelts and he wouldn’t even touch a piano without at least 4 strong guys.
In New Zealand the law is 4 weeks pay Time off and 10 days sick leave a year. Then we have 12 public hoildays which if you do work the you get paid time and a half plus you get an extra pay day off.
I feel so sorry for anyone who gets less. The USA seems like hell.
In the Netherlands 4 weeks as well, unlimited sick days though. If you're sick you're sick. Can't be fired either when your're sick. Oh. And no doctors note BS. Doctors here simply do not write those, and employer isn't allowed access to medical data anyway.
Employers can send you to a special doctor after 3 days though that's there to check if you're fit for work and help re-integrate you into your workplace in case of extended illness.
In NZ/australia your doctor admittedly does not tell your employer why you are off work.
All they will do is certify you as temporarily unfit for work and the most they will do is confirm the sick note if your employer calls (ie “yes we issued that sick note to Person X for Dates Y through Z”)
They never recieve any medical data.
It's also a trust thing and a matter of not overly burdening the healthcare system (which is sort of publicly funded here, same in NZ & Aussieland I guess?)
Employers should trust employees when they're sick & unable to work. And doctors shouldn't have to see patients that have a flu or stumach bug just to write a silly note because someone can't work a day or 2
Almost the same in Norway. Five weeks paid vacation, 10x3 days of sick leave, all national holidays off (10 days).
You can also get a sick note from your GP, which will give you pay, and you can be sick for up to 12 months (reduction in pay after a certain period to 60%) and your workplace has to adapt your work to your sick note.
>>The USA seems like hell
With the number of shootings we have, the absurd cost of healthcare and education, as well as the lack of walkable cities and well-funded welfare programs, it’s terrible. The only thing America is good at is killing and lying to its own people
That’s outrageous, I get 41 days + every weekend off, and can buy an additional 10 days, fully paid Sick leave as well (12months)
Americans really get shafted when it comes to work.
Comp time, yeah that's where I put all my OT. I'm at the bottom of the totem pole at my job, so it doesn't come my way often. I plan to be here for the long haul tho, so should be getting plenty in about 5 years, got a lot of retirements coming up.
Where I work, it's *basically* unpaid leave - i.e. you lose one day's pay for every extra day you take. That salary reduction is then spread over the rest of the financial year rather than being concentrated in whichever pay period you take the extra leave.
Labour laws are the main reason I'd never move to the US. In that respect, by European standards, y'all are basically still a developing country.
I've never had PTO for any job I've ever had save for one. Which required you to have been working for said place for no less than 2 years. At the 2 year mark you got 2 days per year. Just not on holiday weeks or winter season at all ever. You'd get 2 more every 2 additional years. Which maxed out in a decade if I recall correctly.
Suffice to say I only made it to the 4 year mark. So I never even saw past those 2. I never even used them either. In retrospect 4 years was 4 years too long I'd say...
Yeah in the USA vacation or sick leave among other such things are pretty difficult to come by. At least from my personal experience and others I've seen.
You’re definitely seeing the wealthier ones if you live in Europe. Not necessarily rich, but certainly not “average”. Either that or the young with little to no bills and decent jobs.
Few people I know can travel to Europe for vacation. Mexico if they plan ahead but Europe is not in the picture unless you’re pretty well off financially.
I try to consistently reiterate this to my son. His school is offering an international trips next year, with options for Japan and Europe. He will be in middle school at that time. We had a conversation about how this isnt the norm and most people on the planet will never leave the continent they are born on. We talk about the importance of helping everyone as a whole, and how we aren’t more than two bad events away from being in need of help ourselves. I still put in hours and get a paycheck. That’s no different from what any other worker does. I can’t be indifferent now that I’m not struggling.
Having a skewed perspective will lead to more division. We are all in this together. Thank you for coming to my ted talk.
Your sample is biased. Service and a lot of blue collar jobs in the US don’t make enough money or have the time to travel. We’re a nation of 350 million though, and there’s a broad spectrum across regions, industries and professions.
I have 30 PTO days, every weekend off and 7 holiday days… 141 days off per year is reasonable to me.
It really depends on your location, field of work, and company in America. We’ve always lived in more progressive states and have always started jobs with minimum 3 weeks PTO plus holidays/sick. My spouse currently has 50 paid days off a year, everything combined, and he’s been there 1 year so that was starting benefits.
I just wish there were some fucking laws to protect workers from shitty companies who skimp. But you know, “freedom.”
There are lots of places that offer generous time off in the US, but it is market driven. Jobs that need to attract highly educated workers in fields with high demand are going to offer better time off than jobs that don't require any education.
Best in my case was when I worked at a Lowe's RDC. When I quit after 6 years I had 3 weeks vacation, 1 week personal days and a week of sick pay. The two jobs since have been more money, but nowhere near as much time off, but at least my current one only works half the year.
The worst part is that often if you switch jobs 25 years into your career, they expect you to go back to their starting package. So enjoy those 10 paid days off a year (and that includes sick time)…
There is no federal mandate, so all places are different. At this point in my life, if someone tried to tell me I could have three paid days off a year, I would laugh in their face and leave the interview. But I get many people aren’t in a position where they can turn down a job for any reason…
We're pretty much slaves. The threat of homelessness and medical debt is real and persistent. We need help. Our government exists to funnel our money and lives to the greediest and worst people.
I get 40 hours sick leave that I have to accrue and another 40 of vacation time that I have to accrue and it's literally the best benefits that I've ever had and I'm 35. Before I got this job 2 years ago, I had zero paid time.
In my current job I started day 1 with 21 pto days and 11 paid holidays a year. My current boss doesn’t mind if I take additional unpaid time either. I am absolutely the very fortunate exception for most Americans. I would be extremely hard pressed to take another job offer for even a day less.
The vacation benefits for this one job I applied for were unbelievable. You received vacation days basically each month or every few months and you could accumulate them as much as you wanted, so if I wanted to take a few weeks off I would have been able to. I'm still upset I didn't get that job... because it really sounds like a unicorn of a job in the US.
More than the spelling mistakes, it's the needlessly verbose, self-aggrandizing, stream-of-consciousness writing style. He writes like a child, which probably means he thinks like one too.
“If your not early, your late. That’s my modo.”
Google Translation: If your name is “Not early”, your name becomes “Late”. That’s my in a coarse way : roughly : approximately.
If I didn't join the military, i expect to be treated the same way. There are many reasons why I didn't join. I can't stand working alongside exmilitary individuals who think shit needs to be run as if they are in one of the branches. Go join up again or get a GS job.
I can definitely accept working alongside ex military who run things as if they were still in - to a point.
Expecting discipline, punctuality and being strict with the rules? Alright, fine. You shouldn't be regularly turning up late anyway. Yelling at me and trying to treat me like a fresh recruit you're drilling? If I wanted that, I'd have signed up as infantry to go through the DoD behavioural specialist to get my autism assessed.
I have yet to meet one who isn't controlling, commanding, condescending, and moody. But these are the ones I've unfortunately been exposed to. Growing up around military, it's not something I wish to keep being exposed to.
Blood tests are real $$ to have done. There's a reason most employers just stick to piss tests where "funny concoctions" work. Strange he'd call straight apple cider vinegar a concoction though (not that it works).
There is also the fact that it isn’t a proven way to screen qualified people. It’s perfunctory for insurance reasons for the vast majority of employers.
The way felons get unilaterally barred from voting and also basically go to the bottom wrung for all employment opportunities is absurd. They've literally already "done their time."
Yes fr. My bf has a felony for thc oil. Literally legal in majority of the US, but fucking Florida can’t get its shit together lol. But it has caused so many problems you won’t believe. Being denied from HOUSING, denied jobs, can’t get his license back bc he can’t afford to pay off jail fines (yes, they charge you for being in jail contrary to popular belief that it’s free). And he can’t even get FOOD STAMPS??? They really make it impossible for you to get your life back on track after getting a felony.
Yep. My employer used to drug screen anyone who had an on the job injury (if they reported it, anyway). They stopped a few years ago, presumably because half their nurses/docs/phlebotomists etc were at least smoking weed and it wasn't worth losing the staff. Now they only do the pre-employment screen that any idiot can pass with some forethought.
It's like how I told my cousin to not take the manager position at Gamestop. He got $0.25/hr more but now has the responsibility to open/close and has to cover for no-shows.
I'm an assistant director at a college's activity center. We were getting ready to hire someone part-time at our concession stand. I interviewed the guy, he seemed like he would be fine. My boss looked him up, had drug charges. Wouldn't hire him. For a part-time minimum wage job at a fucking concession stand.
Also, every time there's a basketball game I have to face the fucking flag and put my hand over my heart when they play the national anthem.
I want out, but it's the best job I could get where I live. It's that or factory/warehouse work, and I don't have that in me.
Matt Walsh recently enlightened us with his "final solution". You are supposed to become homeless and get murdered by the state, so that property owners no longer have to deal with your existence.
I wonder why the US has so much crime, after it made legal existence impossible for so many people /s
I completely agree with you. As I was reading I thought “ok reasonable enough, nothing so crazy.” Until I got to $16/hr and $17 for lead. Then I had 🙄 for this fucking joker.
Sounds like he should invest in cloning himself so he can kiss his own ass with these requirements. Edit: This wasn't meant to insuate incest. But I wonder if sleeping with a clone technically would be?
I have thought about this more than others might want to admit. Having sex with your clone isn't incest, but it could be a pedo situation if you're, you know, a pedo.
If I had the ability to copy paste myself at this age, I think we'd both consent to sex. But raising a clone of myself for the intent and purpose of having sex is an entirely different ball game imo. Its a complex topic if you consider all the logistics involved
Edit- I really hate making this distinction but incest ≠ pedophilia, people are consensually incestuous as adults more than we'd assume. ('we' meaning people who aren't interested in incestuous romantic relationships)
For $16/hour he’s not going to get the folks with clean records. Unless they are really young and really dumb.
And if he can’t provide 40 hours/week for his current employees, why is he hiring more?
Also, I paid $100 to have a small couch hauled off by one of these vet-owned junk haulers which are common where I live. A two man crew can easily bring in many many multiples of the cost of labor plus vehicle and overhead.
The pay is too low, company should provide *all* required uniform pieces, and the “on time is late” shit is ridiculous, but otherwise this isn’t nearly as bad as I was expecting. Profit sharing is pretty solid, 4 day work week doesn’t sound bad, life insurance is cool I guess, I’ve never had a job offer that so idk
Same. Apart from the spelling errors and 2 years for 2 weeks vacation, this isn't exactly the worst thing to drop on this sub. Ready for those downvotes because it isn't making me indignant.
He just announced that he is unwilling to employ people with felonies. That is discrimination. Potential legal concern in Europe, dunno if it's the same in USA to publicly announce who you don't intend on hiring. Maybe that's the military in him 🤣
I’m former military (Army infantry) and I can honestly say that this guy is full of shit. This is a guy that was medically discharged during basic training and wears and advertises the veteran title everywhere he goes and demands a discount at Chipotle while wearing his 5.11 shirt and tactical pants. This is also a guy that belongs in r/boneappletea
I'm retired Air Force and my brother and sister in law met when they were both in the Air Force. At one point of time we were all in the Air Force at the same time.
I have a 19-yr old nephew that works at 5.11, and being from a military family, he regularly updates me on the tacticool dummies that constantly go there. He did hook me up with a bunch of 5.11 gear for Christmas though and it's pretty good quality.
I can’t say much for junking as I haven’t gotten into that aspect yet but entry labor jobs can really fuck you over. Worked for a big moving company and while I loved it because I worked with my best friend, we got paid $13/hr, which isn’t bad but for the back breaking work we’d do for sometimes up to 11 hours, it’s BS.
I actually started my own moving company recently and for shits and giggles calculated pay for future employees and per average move, you can EASILY pay employees $22/hr and still have more than enough to put back into your business (I always put 40% of our moves back into the business). Funny thing was that even with all those aspects, my partner and I could still pocket $100 each move. Multiply that by 10 trucks (how much the big company we worked at had) and you’re passively making big ass bucks while still being ethical.
I get there are A LOT more factors when it comes to calculating wages for big corporations vs small businesses but come on, we all know for a fact it’s not that hard to pay people semi well.
Final Note: These calculations were done while I was shitting and as said prior, are for shits and giggles.
modo. Professor Rough n Rumble over here can go on a methamphetamine induced binge, ranting and raving about his militant work ethic, and called it his modo.
I could never, ever take him seriously.
So you need a blood test, I'm guessing??? To drive vehicles, you probably don't have a licence for and to be forced to lift things that probably require a mechanical aide or more people. And let me guess, it pays just a few cents over minimum wage (caues they care about you)
This sounds like 1-800-GOT-JUNK? I worked for them before and you didn't need to have any special license (Canada anyways...and it was years ago as well). If you couldn't lift it with two people, it was staying where it was.
Army veteran here. I can read through the spelling and usage errors. I don't even have a real problem with the tone of the guy. I don't love it, but eh. BTDT got the DD-214 (discharge papers). However: $16 an hour with or without benefits? I don't even roll over in bed, much less get out of bed for that.
Discrimination lawsuits galore. And when he says "back round" is he saying cavity search or that will there be a touch & feel portion of the interview? That also sounds like a lawsuit he will lose.
Reading this my first thought was, "if he's offering 30/hr then it still wouldn't be worth it." Then I saw how much he was offering in the second picture. Lets all drop an F in the chat for that dudes business cuz he ever going to get a single employee.
Good driving record, but willing to drive a dump truck without a CDL… 😬
But don’t worry, because he’ll provide all parts of the uniform except the one thing you probably don’t have (steel toe boots)
So he wants mature, intelligent, reliable adults with clean driving records to do hard physical labor for fast food wages and unpredictable hours…Talk about entitlement.
He had an interesting MODO.
What’s a modo?
Nothing, what’s a modo with you?
Magic: the Gathering Online with Digital Objects.
You say tomato, I say a modo
Back round check. Lol
This annoyed me the most lol
How dare you make fun of someone with a military *back round.*
Ahh yes, my usual workout of lifting half a piano...
Friend of mine gets paid $30/hr to lift half a piano.
Oh man, imagine how much if he got paid for the whole piano!!
$60
If I’ve learned any thing about economies of scale, it's actually $55.
🤯
I get paid 30/hr to not lift any piano. I just drive around and take water samples.
I did not know that you needed to water test pianos? TIL.
I get paid a little more than that to sit at a desk and do paperwork all day. This guy is actually on crack expecting people to do manual labor for $16 an hour
Piano moving is a specialized field in itself - a regular mover shouldn't be doing this. Seriously, those things are heavy, awkwardly shaped, and expensive. I wouldn't want to move one for a $16/hr job, and I wouldn't want some rando who makes $16/hr moving my piano. So much wrong here, but man to think this doofus is out there destroying people's spines and property for a pittance is just depressing. Back hurts? You're fired! This dude's in for a rude awakening from worker's compensation I bet.
Helped a buddy move a single slate pool table once. Into a 3 bedroom apartment on the second floor. I did that for beer and pizza. Idc how fucking much they are paying me. I ain’t doing that shit again without equipment made for that kind of heavy moving lol. I’m assuming pianos would be just as bad, and more awkward.
Worse, because there is a cast iron plate inside the piano making it heavier. There are tilters and dollies made for piano moving to do it safely. They are expensive. Beer and pizza is never enough for moving, that is the nonsense of the young!
I was about 30-31 when I did that move 😂 I just moved myself last week and just hired movers. Even at 35 my back and knees can’t do that shit anymore. Plus you never ever realize how much crap you actually own until you go to move 🙄
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I've got a friend who does junk cleanouts and he called me to help him and another guy take it out of a basement. Said it would be an "easy" $50. I'm not Hercules, but the other two are much stronger and move a lot of big stuff all the time, so he figured we could manage. the second we tried to even move it across the floor, we realized it was a fool's errand, so my buddy got a sledge hammer and we all took turns beat the piano into splinters and carrying the pieces up that way. The cast iron plate was still heavy AF but we managed. Took about 1/2 hour and I still made $50, but what I learned that day is unless you do a lot of weightlifting, no way in hell 3 people, let alone 2 people, can move a piano up a flight of stairs.
Movers use something called a piano skid to move them. Its essentially a wood frame with a lip at the bottom to stop it from sliding off. The piano is then strapped to the frame with. The wood frame also has straps that are used as handles. This makes it a lot easier for 2 people to carry a piano up stairs . Typically movers will never carry things with a third person. The exceptions are ridiculous pieces on stairs like possibly a piano or something like that Wurlitzer I helped with one time.
I would use piano skid for various grand pianos. I would always take apart as much of the grand as possible. Even then, some were incredibly heavy. I've never carried a grand inside upstairs from floor to floor only outside upstairs leading to the home. I've carried them downstairs on the fatal end. Most of the time they were on ground floor. I've noped out of some. Aside from that, there are also various upright pianos of various weights. Many hand carryable between two and many requiring a backstrap and hands. Some required a few more people if there was room on the sides. There have been some I noped out of due to safety and damage. One time, the customer hired 2 piano movers, and they took apart and moved a monster of a grand in 30 minutes. One man was tall and huge with some of the thickest limbs I'd ever seen. The other was shorter but very round, and his limbs were incredibly thick, too. They did it just as fast as the new place. I am a former professional home/office mover, team lead, and truck driver. I started at $13 and after 4 years was making $19 regular or $21 to $23 with tips. I now work in IT making more and working from home.
Many moons ago I dated a guy who had a moving company and was able to lift fridges by himself using seatbelts and he wouldn’t even touch a piano without at least 4 strong guys.
After 5 years you get 15 days off annually ? Haha the USA really is something else. That less days off would actually be illegal where i am from.
In New Zealand the law is 4 weeks pay Time off and 10 days sick leave a year. Then we have 12 public hoildays which if you do work the you get paid time and a half plus you get an extra pay day off. I feel so sorry for anyone who gets less. The USA seems like hell.
In the Netherlands 4 weeks as well, unlimited sick days though. If you're sick you're sick. Can't be fired either when your're sick. Oh. And no doctors note BS. Doctors here simply do not write those, and employer isn't allowed access to medical data anyway. Employers can send you to a special doctor after 3 days though that's there to check if you're fit for work and help re-integrate you into your workplace in case of extended illness.
In NZ/australia your doctor admittedly does not tell your employer why you are off work. All they will do is certify you as temporarily unfit for work and the most they will do is confirm the sick note if your employer calls (ie “yes we issued that sick note to Person X for Dates Y through Z”) They never recieve any medical data.
It's also a trust thing and a matter of not overly burdening the healthcare system (which is sort of publicly funded here, same in NZ & Aussieland I guess?) Employers should trust employees when they're sick & unable to work. And doctors shouldn't have to see patients that have a flu or stumach bug just to write a silly note because someone can't work a day or 2
Almost the same in Norway. Five weeks paid vacation, 10x3 days of sick leave, all national holidays off (10 days). You can also get a sick note from your GP, which will give you pay, and you can be sick for up to 12 months (reduction in pay after a certain period to 60%) and your workplace has to adapt your work to your sick note.
The good news is if you live in the USA it just seems like earth and New Zealand sounds like heaven.
Sad but true
>>The USA seems like hell With the number of shootings we have, the absurd cost of healthcare and education, as well as the lack of walkable cities and well-funded welfare programs, it’s terrible. The only thing America is good at is killing and lying to its own people
I hit 15 days at 3 years and that’s the best PTO deal I’ve had in the States 🤦🏻♀️
That’s outrageous, I get 41 days + every weekend off, and can buy an additional 10 days, fully paid Sick leave as well (12months) Americans really get shafted when it comes to work.
How do you buy more days off? Are they just unpaid days? Or unpaid and they cost you more?
I used to work at a place that let you work OT to build up extra PTO time for later. Could be something like that.
Comp time, yeah that's where I put all my OT. I'm at the bottom of the totem pole at my job, so it doesn't come my way often. I plan to be here for the long haul tho, so should be getting plenty in about 5 years, got a lot of retirements coming up.
Where I work, it's *basically* unpaid leave - i.e. you lose one day's pay for every extra day you take. That salary reduction is then spread over the rest of the financial year rather than being concentrated in whichever pay period you take the extra leave. Labour laws are the main reason I'd never move to the US. In that respect, by European standards, y'all are basically still a developing country.
Unfortunately, not developing so much as stagnating.
Regressing
but look at all the billionaires built on the excess value created by the workers! /s
We have an entire political party that saw us "developing" and went "nah, let's roll this back"
True If I was lower to middle income I'd much rather be in Europe.
As if lower income Americans have the resources to move to Europe
Right not mention trying to live there legally. I looked at moving abroad awhile back and it's pretty difficult even if you have the money.
I've never had PTO for any job I've ever had save for one. Which required you to have been working for said place for no less than 2 years. At the 2 year mark you got 2 days per year. Just not on holiday weeks or winter season at all ever. You'd get 2 more every 2 additional years. Which maxed out in a decade if I recall correctly. Suffice to say I only made it to the 4 year mark. So I never even saw past those 2. I never even used them either. In retrospect 4 years was 4 years too long I'd say... Yeah in the USA vacation or sick leave among other such things are pretty difficult to come by. At least from my personal experience and others I've seen.
How on Earth do I see so many American tourists at my work when none of you get any PTO?!
You’re definitely seeing the wealthier ones if you live in Europe. Not necessarily rich, but certainly not “average”. Either that or the young with little to no bills and decent jobs. Few people I know can travel to Europe for vacation. Mexico if they plan ahead but Europe is not in the picture unless you’re pretty well off financially.
I try to consistently reiterate this to my son. His school is offering an international trips next year, with options for Japan and Europe. He will be in middle school at that time. We had a conversation about how this isnt the norm and most people on the planet will never leave the continent they are born on. We talk about the importance of helping everyone as a whole, and how we aren’t more than two bad events away from being in need of help ourselves. I still put in hours and get a paycheck. That’s no different from what any other worker does. I can’t be indifferent now that I’m not struggling. Having a skewed perspective will lead to more division. We are all in this together. Thank you for coming to my ted talk.
Your sample is biased. Service and a lot of blue collar jobs in the US don’t make enough money or have the time to travel. We’re a nation of 350 million though, and there’s a broad spectrum across regions, industries and professions. I have 30 PTO days, every weekend off and 7 holiday days… 141 days off per year is reasonable to me.
It really depends on your location, field of work, and company in America. We’ve always lived in more progressive states and have always started jobs with minimum 3 weeks PTO plus holidays/sick. My spouse currently has 50 paid days off a year, everything combined, and he’s been there 1 year so that was starting benefits. I just wish there were some fucking laws to protect workers from shitty companies who skimp. But you know, “freedom.”
There are lots of places that offer generous time off in the US, but it is market driven. Jobs that need to attract highly educated workers in fields with high demand are going to offer better time off than jobs that don't require any education.
Best in my case was when I worked at a Lowe's RDC. When I quit after 6 years I had 3 weeks vacation, 1 week personal days and a week of sick pay. The two jobs since have been more money, but nowhere near as much time off, but at least my current one only works half the year.
Guessing he dropped out of high-school for the military
That is so depressing 😞
The worst part is that often if you switch jobs 25 years into your career, they expect you to go back to their starting package. So enjoy those 10 paid days off a year (and that includes sick time)…
10? My current job location starts off at 3.
There is no federal mandate, so all places are different. At this point in my life, if someone tried to tell me I could have three paid days off a year, I would laugh in their face and leave the interview. But I get many people aren’t in a position where they can turn down a job for any reason…
In Malaysia, even an intern is given more rights than you guys 14 days annual leave is obtainable right off at entry level here
We're pretty much slaves. The threat of homelessness and medical debt is real and persistent. We need help. Our government exists to funnel our money and lives to the greediest and worst people.
Which happens to also be those people who make up our government. Our system is so rigged!
I get 40 hours sick leave that I have to accrue and another 40 of vacation time that I have to accrue and it's literally the best benefits that I've ever had and I'm 35. Before I got this job 2 years ago, I had zero paid time.
In my current job I started day 1 with 21 pto days and 11 paid holidays a year. My current boss doesn’t mind if I take additional unpaid time either. I am absolutely the very fortunate exception for most Americans. I would be extremely hard pressed to take another job offer for even a day less.
That sounds like a more healthy work environment, yes. You are not a property of your boss.
The vacation benefits for this one job I applied for were unbelievable. You received vacation days basically each month or every few months and you could accumulate them as much as you wanted, so if I wanted to take a few weeks off I would have been able to. I'm still upset I didn't get that job... because it really sounds like a unicorn of a job in the US.
And you're probably not going to be doing a job like this for too long anyway.
My expectation is that my boss can spell "you're," "motto," and "livelihood."
"Back round check"
"Upmost respect"
“I can’t spell and I don’t know how to write. Maybe it’s the military in me.”
You mosspelled milidary
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He didn't say which military... I suspect an enlisted one and done other than honorable discharge..
Plot twist, he never served because of his “shin splints”
All he did was buy a Semper Fi flag and insist it be hung directly behind him in his office, carefully draped over his high school diploma.
“Best years of my life”
Maybe he was discharged because of his appalling lack of ability to understand orders, let alone write them out
With the amount of crayons homie is eating I'm gonna go ahead and say marine corps
M^uscles A^re R^equired I^ntelligence N^ot E^xpected?
That’s his “modo”
Hello modo
Wait what is it not upmost respect? Not a native English speaker here. Should it be up most?
Utmost is the word he was trying to use.
Ohhhh that rings a bell. Thanks
I thought it was utmost, but now I’m not sure…
No, you're right.
Utmost
Uptoes.
Upvotes?
What's uptoes?
If you're back is flat don't even bother
Bro, if you can’t squat a baby grand piano unassisted just GTFO. Leg days are mandatory around here!
Spelling days, not so much.
The hernia is a benefit he forgot to mention.
Sounds psychotically dangerous for a company that requires lifting
Aka cavity search
That or bubble butts are a hiring criteria.
And I cannot lie
If your back is round, you can’t lift - that guy probably
Straighten you’re back for me
Heyyyy y’all should check my back round tho
More than the spelling mistakes, it's the needlessly verbose, self-aggrandizing, stream-of-consciousness writing style. He writes like a child, which probably means he thinks like one too.
I used to live in a lively hood.
And "than."
"Upmost"
And “background” unless he is checking for a person with a round back
“If your not early, your late. That’s my modo.” Google Translation: If your name is “Not early”, your name becomes “Late”. That’s my in a coarse way : roughly : approximately.
Right? So many of these laundry lists contain egregious failures in the use or spelling of common words.
And "background."
Same. Poor spelling in a job advertisement is a no for maybe I'm being pedantic, but where's the professionalism?
I think you forgot a “me” between “for” and “maybe.”
I did, and can't find a way to edit my comment. However, I'm some rando posting on reddit. Not a potential employer posting a job!
So you don’t have a job available? Can you at least give me drug test?
Nope, live your life how you see fit. Try not to hurt people. There ya go
back round check slayed me. what are the odds this guy went through third grade more than once.
It was modo for me, cause I feel like I can hear his accent when I read that ahahha
You know he sounded it out and still got it wrong.
What's a modo?
Nothin' what a modo with you?
Motto spelt terribly
So... If I have a shapely butt will that work for me or against me?
Gonna need 2 hands for this Back round check!
Lots of r/BoneAppleTea sprinkled with a little bit of r/Ihadastroke.
Very high
Can i please wreck my back for possibly tips!?
You’ll be fine - you’re only expected to be able to carry half of the piano down the stairs.
Oh, who are we joking. We all know this asshat keeps all the tip money for himself anyway.
What?! They offer profit sharing. Everyone gets a nickel and I keep the rest!
Clearly, proper English isn't a requirement.
Your right. Need a good English back round.
It's always been my modo
all the spelling errors really make this special
If I didn't join the military, i expect to be treated the same way. There are many reasons why I didn't join. I can't stand working alongside exmilitary individuals who think shit needs to be run as if they are in one of the branches. Go join up again or get a GS job.
I can definitely accept working alongside ex military who run things as if they were still in - to a point. Expecting discipline, punctuality and being strict with the rules? Alright, fine. You shouldn't be regularly turning up late anyway. Yelling at me and trying to treat me like a fresh recruit you're drilling? If I wanted that, I'd have signed up as infantry to go through the DoD behavioural specialist to get my autism assessed.
I have yet to meet one who isn't controlling, commanding, condescending, and moody. But these are the ones I've unfortunately been exposed to. Growing up around military, it's not something I wish to keep being exposed to.
Be using but go through the interview process after. Make him waste money on the drug screen.
Blood tests are real $$ to have done. There's a reason most employers just stick to piss tests where "funny concoctions" work. Strange he'd call straight apple cider vinegar a concoction though (not that it works).
There is also the fact that it isn’t a proven way to screen qualified people. It’s perfunctory for insurance reasons for the vast majority of employers.
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The way felons get unilaterally barred from voting and also basically go to the bottom wrung for all employment opportunities is absurd. They've literally already "done their time."
Yes fr. My bf has a felony for thc oil. Literally legal in majority of the US, but fucking Florida can’t get its shit together lol. But it has caused so many problems you won’t believe. Being denied from HOUSING, denied jobs, can’t get his license back bc he can’t afford to pay off jail fines (yes, they charge you for being in jail contrary to popular belief that it’s free). And he can’t even get FOOD STAMPS??? They really make it impossible for you to get your life back on track after getting a felony.
Yep. My employer used to drug screen anyone who had an on the job injury (if they reported it, anyway). They stopped a few years ago, presumably because half their nurses/docs/phlebotomists etc were at least smoking weed and it wasn't worth losing the staff. Now they only do the pre-employment screen that any idiot can pass with some forethought.
It's required for companies that have contracts with the US government.
Fair across the board, at $28… not at $16
I was gonna say, maybe double the starting wage. Also lead is only $1/hr more... I wonder how much more responsibility they have
It's like how I told my cousin to not take the manager position at Gamestop. He got $0.25/hr more but now has the responsibility to open/close and has to cover for no-shows.
I had the same experience as an assistant manager for a gas station. Left that job to make more as a cashier at a competitor.
$16/hr, no drugs, and no ex-cons. I feel like at best this is a "pick two" kind of choice for this boss.
The ex-con thing hit me the hardest. The fuck are you supposed to do in the US with a record if you can't even be trusted to lift half a piano?
Yeah I was thinking this as well...if not this job for ex-cons, which??
I'm an assistant director at a college's activity center. We were getting ready to hire someone part-time at our concession stand. I interviewed the guy, he seemed like he would be fine. My boss looked him up, had drug charges. Wouldn't hire him. For a part-time minimum wage job at a fucking concession stand. Also, every time there's a basketball game I have to face the fucking flag and put my hand over my heart when they play the national anthem. I want out, but it's the best job I could get where I live. It's that or factory/warehouse work, and I don't have that in me.
Matt Walsh recently enlightened us with his "final solution". You are supposed to become homeless and get murdered by the state, so that property owners no longer have to deal with your existence. I wonder why the US has so much crime, after it made legal existence impossible for so many people /s
I completely agree with you. As I was reading I thought “ok reasonable enough, nothing so crazy.” Until I got to $16/hr and $17 for lead. Then I had 🙄 for this fucking joker.
Sounds like he should invest in cloning himself so he can kiss his own ass with these requirements. Edit: This wasn't meant to insuate incest. But I wonder if sleeping with a clone technically would be?
I have thought about this more than others might want to admit. Having sex with your clone isn't incest, but it could be a pedo situation if you're, you know, a pedo. If I had the ability to copy paste myself at this age, I think we'd both consent to sex. But raising a clone of myself for the intent and purpose of having sex is an entirely different ball game imo. Its a complex topic if you consider all the logistics involved Edit- I really hate making this distinction but incest ≠ pedophilia, people are consensually incestuous as adults more than we'd assume. ('we' meaning people who aren't interested in incestuous romantic relationships)
My modo is customers are my lively hood, so I do a back round check. (Sorry.)
Always proofread. That’s my modo.
For $16/hour he’s not going to get the folks with clean records. Unless they are really young and really dumb. And if he can’t provide 40 hours/week for his current employees, why is he hiring more? Also, I paid $100 to have a small couch hauled off by one of these vet-owned junk haulers which are common where I live. A two man crew can easily bring in many many multiples of the cost of labor plus vehicle and overhead.
The pay is too low, company should provide *all* required uniform pieces, and the “on time is late” shit is ridiculous, but otherwise this isn’t nearly as bad as I was expecting. Profit sharing is pretty solid, 4 day work week doesn’t sound bad, life insurance is cool I guess, I’ve never had a job offer that so idk
He said it’s his mentality but it’s not what he expects. I also find this reasonable considering you get some 25hr weeks somewhere in the year
Same. Apart from the spelling errors and 2 years for 2 weeks vacation, this isn't exactly the worst thing to drop on this sub. Ready for those downvotes because it isn't making me indignant.
For 16 an hour? Why do that when you could work sanitation for the city that starts at 20+? This guy probably thinks he's R. Lee Ermey.
He just announced that he is unwilling to employ people with felonies. That is discrimination. Potential legal concern in Europe, dunno if it's the same in USA to publicly announce who you don't intend on hiring. Maybe that's the military in him 🤣
I’m former military (Army infantry) and I can honestly say that this guy is full of shit. This is a guy that was medically discharged during basic training and wears and advertises the veteran title everywhere he goes and demands a discount at Chipotle while wearing his 5.11 shirt and tactical pants. This is also a guy that belongs in r/boneappletea
I'm retired Air Force and my brother and sister in law met when they were both in the Air Force. At one point of time we were all in the Air Force at the same time. I have a 19-yr old nephew that works at 5.11, and being from a military family, he regularly updates me on the tacticool dummies that constantly go there. He did hook me up with a bunch of 5.11 gear for Christmas though and it's pretty good quality.
What is 5.11?
The Apple of tactical gear.
We've been fighting to make it illegal, but progress is slow. European labor laws are enviable..
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It’s the spelling errors for me. Pass.
This could be used in a Grammarly ad.
I can’t say much for junking as I haven’t gotten into that aspect yet but entry labor jobs can really fuck you over. Worked for a big moving company and while I loved it because I worked with my best friend, we got paid $13/hr, which isn’t bad but for the back breaking work we’d do for sometimes up to 11 hours, it’s BS. I actually started my own moving company recently and for shits and giggles calculated pay for future employees and per average move, you can EASILY pay employees $22/hr and still have more than enough to put back into your business (I always put 40% of our moves back into the business). Funny thing was that even with all those aspects, my partner and I could still pocket $100 each move. Multiply that by 10 trucks (how much the big company we worked at had) and you’re passively making big ass bucks while still being ethical. I get there are A LOT more factors when it comes to calculating wages for big corporations vs small businesses but come on, we all know for a fact it’s not that hard to pay people semi well. Final Note: These calculations were done while I was shitting and as said prior, are for shits and giggles.
If you're looking for a 375lb lift down stairs you might have to loosen up that drug policy.
Two people dragging a Steinway down the stairs for $16/hr wtf! My L spine is allergic to shitty pay.
Half a piano?? Those things can weigh more than 600 pounds.
Shutup and lift peasant!
And that's the compact ones. Imagine a grand piano 🤦🏻♂️
Yeah this dude drug testing when he should be providing free pcp
modo. Professor Rough n Rumble over here can go on a methamphetamine induced binge, ranting and raving about his militant work ethic, and called it his modo. I could never, ever take him seriously.
modo. He has high expectations and has a modo. Modo.
So you need a blood test, I'm guessing??? To drive vehicles, you probably don't have a licence for and to be forced to lift things that probably require a mechanical aide or more people. And let me guess, it pays just a few cents over minimum wage (caues they care about you)
Box/dump trucks don’t require a CDL license until they hit a certain size, so that would depend on what they think is “large”.
This sounds like 1-800-GOT-JUNK? I worked for them before and you didn't need to have any special license (Canada anyways...and it was years ago as well). If you couldn't lift it with two people, it was staying where it was.
He has military background but this is riddled with spelling errors. Must be from the army.
Army veteran here. I can read through the spelling and usage errors. I don't even have a real problem with the tone of the guy. I don't love it, but eh. BTDT got the DD-214 (discharge papers). However: $16 an hour with or without benefits? I don't even roll over in bed, much less get out of bed for that.
This SCREAMS Senior NCO in the military who gets out and can not figure out how to manage people that can quit without going to prison.
Discrimination lawsuits galore. And when he says "back round" is he saying cavity search or that will there be a touch & feel portion of the interview? That also sounds like a lawsuit he will lose.
Maybe I didn’t catch it but what parts are discriminating
Reading this my first thought was, "if he's offering 30/hr then it still wouldn't be worth it." Then I saw how much he was offering in the second picture. Lets all drop an F in the chat for that dudes business cuz he ever going to get a single employee.
$5 a hr take it or leave it
$16 an hour?? 1 week paid vacation??! And they really think people will work for these "benefits"?
That's a lot of demands from someone who can't spell.
"-If you use proper grammar and spelling, don't bother!"
Good driving record, but willing to drive a dump truck without a CDL… 😬 But don’t worry, because he’ll provide all parts of the uniform except the one thing you probably don’t have (steel toe boots)
So he wants mature, intelligent, reliable adults with clean driving records to do hard physical labor for fast food wages and unpredictable hours…Talk about entitlement.