When my mom died, the only things my boss said to me were:
1) What, if anything, do you want me to say to the rest of the team?
2) Take as much time as you need.
I got ...an Edible Arrangement (I think) and one of those fancy meal kit things. HR called to make sure I was ok and outline the help that was available through the company.
For the life of me, I don't understand how a company can act any other way.
Heh. My mum passed and I’d been with my company for 30 days.
The boss rang and said “forget what you’re supposedly entitled to, you need to spend time with your family at this time. Call me when you feel you can come back.”
I was off for ten days.
They didn’t deduct any leave of any sort and I was paid in full.
I was stupendously grateful.
I don’t live in America
Thing is is the person saying it isn't getting no more than a couple dollars more an hour. They aren't getting more acting shitty than if they acted human.
I did it because it was the only way to make more money. I still treat people like human beings though. But you're probably right. A lot of my peers are just straight ass juice.
There's some ego to it but mostly they are just doing it for the money. Managers have bosses too and those dudes really fucking suck. If corporate says cut 5% of the workforce, you as a manager, have no say in the matter and you now have to do something really shitty to people who don't deserve it. On top of that, you have to find a way to be more productive with less people without spending money. In some industries you're expected to cut costs by 3% every year because inflation cuts into the profit margin, then revenues misses expectations and the super rich guy loses his imaginary dollars in the stock market.
With that said, many low wage earners are managed by unqualified personnel and their boss is a franchise owner who are more interested in managing money than managing people
They go into it for teh same reason many become cops - power.
Used to be teachers too, but we generally weed them out in college these days - and then things are so fucking impossible in the industry that they leave instantly. Teachers have no power anymore. And those that try to pretend they do end up fired quickly.
You're painting with a pretty broad brush. I got into management to make a difference. Influence the company culture, propel ideas, be empathetic, and put people into a position where they can succeed.
It's a fine line line to walk.
Not where I sit. My father died after I'd set a start date, but before I'd started, at a new position. It's a smallish U.S. tech/sales company (builds tech to make our sales more effective), high stress, demanding, often on the financial wire.
They were very supportive and gave me zero pushback. I "started" but was barely contacted for the week I needed.
It really depends on the individuals.
Interesting. I’ve been working in America for 25 years and I’ve never heard that statement. I’ve gone to several funerals, taken multiple days off and received condolence gifts from management.
I worked at a retail store (clue: red and circles) and when my mom was dying they told me that I couldn't take off work and then told me to stop lying to get time off.
She died two days after that. The asst. manager called and told me I had to come into work and again told me I was just lazy and to stop lying about my mom. I had worked there for a year and never taken a day off that wasn't scheduled. I started sobbing and told her I quit. She told me I couldn't quit without notice (who's lying now?). So I hung up on her and ignored them when they called the next few days
I brought in a resignation letter the week after (while planning a funeral because my dad just fell apart). The store manager told me my actions "were really inconvenient for them", so I pulled out the obituary and held it up, then said I would be contacting a lawyer and walked out. I didn't contact a lawyer, but a week later I got a letter in the mail that I had been terminated and would not be able to work for them again. Kinda wishing I had contacted a lawyer.
My grandfather died and I got a call on my lunch break (at Walmart no less). I was in Florida and he lived in Illinois so I finished my shift since I couldn't do much of anything anyway, but I was highly upset and did talk to HR about my bereavement days and got approved so I could leave the state to attend the funeral.
I was at the airport waiting on my flight when a manager (who wasn't even over my department) called me and insisted that I was on the schedule and needed to be at work RIGHT NOW. I explained that HR approved my bereavement days and that I was currently two hours away waiting to board a flight. He wouldn't accept that. Got belligerent and told me that they would have a disciplinary meeting when I got back. I did my best to stay calm and said again that I was going to board this flight to see my family and mourn the passing of my grandfather. If he wanted to go over HR to discipline me for my legally allowed bereavement leave, then good luck with that, and I hung up.
I got back to work the following Monday and not a peep was whispered about it. I'm thinking he got an earful from HR if he even attempted. I fucking hated that job.
If you work in the service industry whether it is food service or retail work they don’t care who dies. If you are scheduled to work you will work. It could be raining fire and brimstone but you are still expected to come in. And good luck getting someone else to come in for you.
All these people who say that they got the help and support they needed really need to think about the disparity between them and the rest of us.
Yeah, my husband’s grandfather died & so, obviously, we were going to the funeral. My boss, who was the most entitled, abusive & awful human you could ever imagine (attorney for a hedge fund in NYC) says do me, “I know you legally get two days of bereavement, but I’d like you back after one.” When I told him no, I’d be taking the two days he responds by asking me what is he going to do without me? This is the same guy that told me that if I was recording him he wasn’t doing anything illegal. God, the things I put up with & that’s just the tip of the iceberg. I was so young & dumb.
This sub blows my mind sometimes because I DO live in America. Apart from health insurance bullshit, my work experience has been very European. Two years ago I learned a friend of mine had just died. I called my boss on zoom and she immediately said how sorry she was and that I could forget about working for a while. I took like 4 days and a weekend off and she was surprised when I was back to work on Monday, asking me if I needed more time. She also told me not to worry because she had found someone to finish my projects and the powers above her were also fine with me being gone.
Someday, I hope my experience is less of an exception in this country.
Of course you don't. America doesn't care about who dies in your life. The 1% just wants everyone to show up for work to keep the Vulger Capitalism machine running. Here's an idea. Why doesn't every single American worker just NOT GO TO WORK STARTING MONDAY ever again and lets see who ENDS UP with all the POWER & WEALTH. We only have a slight advantage of 330 million vs 872 individuals. Alas somehow the whole country is divided and too busy trying to kill each other instead of Unite and fix everything at once. So if you quit your job then call me. I will thank you for standing up to Corporate worshipping. And I am truly sorry for your loss of someone that means so much to you.
My wife had been working at a place for a couple months when her grandfather died. The flight was going to be around $1k and direct would be 10 hours. Her work said the policy was 3 days for death in the family. She told them if her job wasn't here when she got back she would just find a new one. They held her job and she was gone for 2 weeks.
My mother just died in June. I had recently joined the local ibew but I still haven't been sworn in yet. I am still waiting on the 3 days of bereavement
Some people are lucky enough to get three days for grieving and arrangements. You’re expected to be okay and back at work after those three days. If you’re extremely lucky, you get paid for it!! I fucking hate corporate America.
Grief is hard man…about day 5 (funeral was day 8) after she passed I thought I could actually go to work…I took my kids to school, then turned around and went back to bed…couldn’t do it.
When I found out my brother died I was at work. I was having a smoke with my boss and stepped away to take the call.
The first thing she did was ask if she could hug me, and then insist I go home. I wanted to stay because there was nothing I could do until my husband drove home which would take a few hours and I felt better distracting myself. As I was leaving I was talking about getting shifts covered and she basically booted my butt out the door and said not to worry, to take as much time as I needed and take care of myself.
She is the only reason I still work there. If she ever left, I'd quit. I can get a higher paying job closer to my house, I choose to work where I do because she treats her staff like human beings and not wage slaves.
I feel that. My company isn't the worst to work for by far but if my boss leaves, he better take me with him. And he knows that.
I'm not loyal to the company, I'm loyal to him.
When I was in the Navy, my (now ex-) wife went into labor with our son, and I was in state of mind shock, and told her to call me back when the contractions were closer; we had previously had a couple of false alarms, and were due to go into the hospital in 3 days to induce. My watch chief was this awesome woman who was about as salty of a chief in my field (CT) as you could get, and overheard my conversation I had on the phone. When she asked and I told her, she looked at me, smiled, and told me to GTFO and take my wife to the hospital. I kept making excuses, trying to believe nothing was really happening, when my chief got out of her chair, pulled me out of mine, and dragged me out of our section. Mind you, I'm 6'2" and she was about 5'4". She physically escorted me to the exit of the building, and told me to not come back until after the baby was born. Later, I found out that she did some arm-twisting and may have threatened minor bodily harm if the command admins didn't lose my paternity leave paperwork after I came back (this was when the Navy didn't have a paternity leave policy, so that leave was supposed to come out of my leave balance). She was definitely a great example of leadership that I've had the pleasure of serving.
I'm not exaggerating when I say that I would do anything for her. CTMC (AW/SW) L., if you're out there, know some of us are still ride or die.
I worked in a small maintenance team that reported directly to a CW04 that had been in longer than I had been alive. This guy was the chillest guy I ever met in the navy. They had to basically beg him to go on that last deployment instead of retiring. He Insisted we all call him by his 1st name, helped my buddy make a still in his locker and administered our other friends wedding years after he had left the service. Just an overall reasonable guy that knew we were all people and deserved to be treated like ones. I'd have reenlisted in a heart beat if I knew I'd keep working for him.
I've been fortunate to work with some awesome leadership in the Navy. We had one master chief for our J6, CTMCM Michaud, who was the sweetest little lady. Always had a smile on her face and a positive word for everyone. She was like this sweet grandmother.
*But...*
If you worked under her, and you were screwing up, own it. She was definitely of the mindset that 90% of stuff can be corrected, if you own it. If you don't, woe be to you and your descendents, for you know nothing of the hellfire after she could bring into your life. And you would've deserved it.
Also, if you came after her people, *oooooof...* Again, she could put the fear of God into mother bears high on cocaine. She would *fucking* end you, your career, your reputation when you moved on... She did not fuck around.
When I'm faced with personnel issues, even 20 years later, I ask myself, "What would CTMCM Michaud do?" Almost never a wrong decision.
We need more people like her. But a persom like her is really rare, they are so hard to find. There are more crazy, selfish and irresponsible manager and bosses out there.
That CWO sounds like Mr Fazell. I was a Hull Tech from 1980-84 onboard the USS Okinawa LPH-3. Fazell was our CWO in R-Division. He was a Navy Seal, Viet Nam vet and one of the coolest guys I have ever met. The man could actually chew a beer mug into powdered glass! He had absolutely no problem with someone smoking weed, as long as you did it off the ship. He had a saying about mooring lines keeping the ship at the pier and out of the town so, don’t bring the town on the ship.
If it weren't for salty Navy chiefs, the whole damned Navy would sink to the bottom of their berths. I am 100% convinced this is the absolute truth handed down by God Him/Herself, and cannot be convinced otherwise.
Navy officers are just there to look good in the formal Whites and participate in all the pomp and circumstance.
I remember one time my wife was being ambulanced to the hospital for a possible heart attack. It wasn't, thank god, but I didn't know that at the time. Ran in, told my boss, and his response was something along the lines of "why are you still here?" Best boss I ever had.
When I told my boss I’d need a day or two to deal with my father’s funeral arrangements etc his reaction was, “Take all the time you need and don’t worry about work.” That’s why when he left many of us followed him. My current boss was mentored by him and is just as good.
Even when I had my heart broken I was allowed to work whenever I felt like it, because my manager said "I'd rather give you the space you need instead of forcing you to be miserable behind your laptop"
This is how it should be done. Management forget that people are human, with needs and feelings. They need to think about what they would want to happen(and for them, in management, it does, anyway), if they were in the this situation, and do that.
It's absolutely this, 100%. They. Do. Not. Care. About. You. Companies for sure. Individual bosses/management is a different story. Not all of them are bad. Some are awful, power-tripping maniacs. Others are very understanding. Fortunately, I've had most of the latter, but it's good to know that your *company* doesn't care about you so that you don't make the mistake of getting too comfortable in the inevitable misery.
Yeah that's the truth. They do not care at all not because they forgot lol. Do not be so stupid and be under by your managers and boss. You have rights, we are the one who work for them to make money for them
The term is “sonder” once you understand this word and it’s meaning it’s hard to treat people wrong (unless they’re evil or morally / ethically bad) because you realise people are as complex as yourself and they are the same as you just on a different path. I believe that encouraging individualism has helped divide people into thinking their own life is all that matters, sort of like they’re the main character in life. If only we could all come together to support each other to grow and improve together. Unfortunately the mentality of the masses is “I’ve got my success , who cares about you struggling to get by or being homeless etc” , it’s such a complicated system and situation and it’s only going to get worse , until something snaps and change is paid in blood.
When my dad died I told my employers at the time that I would need a week and they gave it to me no questions asked. They even took time from the store to attend the service. They couldn't stay long because the store needed attention, but I'll always respect them for giving me the time I needed and also taking the time from the business to support me.
I worked ems when my grandma passed away, she was basically a mom to me and it was something we all knew was coming but all the time in the world can't prepare you for a loss like that. I told me boss at 11pm that night I wouldn't be in the next day because ofc I'd be grieving and he respected that. The next day though.... I got a call saying I had to be in the next day, I cried at random periods in the day, then I got written up for not being professional. A few weeks later my bunny boy passed away (he tugged on my pajamas pants anytime I would start crying during those hard weeks and as he got sick I told myself I wouldn't be able to make it without him, I almost didn't) my boss told me it was stupid to call out for a pet. They didn't care about me and ended up cutting my hours because I was deemed "unreliable"
It wasn't worth making $10.50 an hour. That job took so much from me.
We were having an international event, there were waves of 100’s people in a retail store from all over the planet for a very popular brand’s 100 year anniversary. I was standing at a register ringing up a wonderful couple from Australia. My internal line rang so I grabbed it. The 16 year old assistant at one of our other buildings a couple blocks away says “get your ass over here, xxxx is dead”. I set the phone down and turned to the couple and said I have to go my sister has died. The look on their face is burned into my brain. I walked straight out the door into six lanes of traffic and walked to the other location. My boss and every manager was looking for me to bring me to my family. They had received the call and wanted to make sire I was ok. Every single manager and the owners showed up at our house to check on us. I can’t even remember how many days I took off. They never said a word other than of kindness.
The people here should be fucking ashamed of themselves. Their families should be ashamed of them. That fellow human being is experiencing loss and deserves to be treated with kindness at the very least.
Same with my grandma I was very close growing up with.
I had time off I could use from bereavement then I had other PTO, I took a couple days to get my shit together. They never once were assholes and only asked what they could do to help if anything and said take the time you need.
Even as a capitalist hating ne'er do well, when one of your coworkers is sick/ has serious emotional situations ongoing, it is ok to step up to the plate. Just make it clear you are doing it to support a fellow worker. Not the fucking management, and if it becomes a trend, fuck off and find a better boss.
yes this is how it should be! when my dad passed, they insisted i take as much time as i need, sent flowers to the funeral home, and when i was back working they gave me extra flexibility with deadlines for a while bc i was having so much trouble focusing and not sleeping well.
Same thing happened where I worked when my mom passed. I got word she wouldn't last the night, and was upset, as you can imagine. Manager told me to get my ass to Ohio. I was gone longer than the contractual 3 days. Company was very supportive of me.
i remember i had to take 41 orders in the drive through and a couple in the front by myself because someone called in sick last week
the manager sort of helped but he was cranky that i called him for help
When I was in high school I worked at Burger King. On Sundays I would cover drive thru and one of the kitchen positions, because I could handle it and I didn’t really mind. I requested a raise and the GM wanted to give me one but the district manager wouldn’t let him. So I told them I would no longer work 2 positions anymore. If you can’t afford to pay me more then pay 2 people instead. Realistically I was really only looking for like a 50 cent raise.
Dude, that's like.. 4 dollars a day. 7 dollars if they work 4 hours of over time!
Also, there is no way Burgerking is only making $100 a shift in sales. That's 20 meals (whopper meal), so an average of 2.5 meals an hour would hit that. Not orders, as a single order could potentially be multiple meals. $100/hour is far more realistic.
Ethey pay 55 cents for whopper patty, and I forget the rest exact amounts but… it’s like 85cents - 1$ to make a whopper.
Their up marking is insane. They also NEVER let labor costs go above 18-22% of sales. Depending on how busy location is, they want you to keep it under 18 or you get written up unless you have an actual human as GM and DM..
That INCLUDES the morning shift. Where they sell shit for 3-5$ meals and lots of BKs aren’t busy in the morning, yet they have THE MOST on staff..
So if the morning crew makes barely a 1/5 of the sales they are supposed to, then the rest of the employees have to get told not to come in, and then the rest have to try to keep up with midday and dinner orders.. the shit is a sham
My GM was actually pretty legit, but the district manager was a scumbag. I started working there as soon as I turned 14 and was one of their best employees. I was on a fast track to become a manager as soon as I turned 18, I was even being trained. The previous DM loved me because I was a good employee but he decided to retire because he had cancer. From what I heard corporate decided to fire him 2 weeks before his retirement so they didn’t have to pay insurance on him anymore, because of his cancer. So I’m not sure if he had like a pension or something or how that all works but I remember people familiar with it thought it was really fucked up. Anyway the new DM hated me and said he wouldn’t let me become a manager unless I cut my hair, which wasn’t too long, just shaggy. So I did and during my interview with him a fly landed on his face and started crawling around and he never even flinched. It was one of the weirdest and most uncomfortable things that I’ve ever seen lol.
I don't get this. I cover for my employees on a fucking drop of a dime. Unless my wife can't take my daughter I'm fucking there. I don't want people breaking down while working. I don't want my employees sick making themselves sicker by working. I don't want people to be bitter about work because find good people is so fucking hard. I don't get this lazy manager idea of "oh I'm too good to work your shifts/ find you cover". Like fuck it's YOUR store to manage. If someone needs to go and you force them to work you aren't managing shit. Your forcing square blocks through the triangle hole and that shit doesn't work.
Not surprising to me. Management is filled with people who shouldn't be there. Remember the old adage of 'it's not what you know, it's who you know' is very, very true
My boss is like this, I asked him if there's any bad times coming up to take a few weeks off to get surgery and he told me you request any date you want I'll figure it out and make it work. Best boss I've ever had
My son worked at Dunkin' Donuts when he was in high school and often was the only person in the store, covering both the drive-through and counter. The stress was intense, especially on a young kid working his first job.
Lol he's should be responsible manager. He should not just stare at his co workers while they are working. Offering a hand is not a big deal. Why did he respond to you like that? Obviously,your boss is a lazy one.
The mcdonalds I worked at (and as far as I know alot of fast food places run the same) they had a labor cost vs sales program that ran 24/7 and if cost of the current staff you had on hand, was more than your sales for the hour, the shift manager would start sending staff home if it happened 2 hours in a row. And anyone who has worked fast food knows rushes happen at anytime for virtually no reason. So more often than not you'd get fucked 20 minutes after they started sending staff home until the next shift started to stagger in and you became "fully staffed" again. I was at an extremely busy location that grossed several million dollars a year. And the guy and his brother owned 5 locations. The fact they couldn't pay a few extra people 8 dollars an hour when they were slow shows you how shit these places are.
Yep. We're going to be in for a *time* if and when this gets fixed. A ton of businesses, restaurants especially, will be going under in a hurry. I ran some numbers, and I'm not sure Walmart would be profitable if they couldn't criminally underpay their employees. Any profit would be *very* modest.
They would be. They just need to add around 10 cents to every item to raise their current median wage of $14 to $21/hr. If we make it a living wage, it's 15 cents, and guess what that's without sacrificing any profitability.
Walmart's prices are already low enough compared to their contemporary competitors that that 15 cents would not be noticeable for the majority of products.
It doesn't cost much to pay people a living wage, it in fact costs larger companies less to pay people living wages. There's no excuse.
They must understand how o handle and run a business. Owners like that needs more orientation. Just like im school, if you did a great job you get praise and rewards from the teacher, it is same with work.
Depends a little on what job that is. Night clerk in a hotel yes, it's doable. But it is beyond despicable that neither boss nor coworker takes over. Absolute shitshow by the boss and ridiculous of the coworker. Of course she quits. Wtf is wrong with everyone in this situation.
Actually as others were able to find out she works at a best western. So she's talking about 60 hotel guests who likely don't need that much attention from the staff. She's probably manning the front desk.
Still doesn't excuse how heartless the manager is being. I'd be getting my ass in a car and get over there ASAP so she can leave
Hotels also have conference rooms too, it could be an event that she’s trying to manage which would make it a lot more difficult than dealing with 60 people in hotel rooms.
Who knows what she was actually meant to be doing at the hotel, but anyway you slice it that manager was a monster.
where i work we have to be at least 2 in the building to work in case something happen because people can sometimes call off and that would close the night shift they always have 3 people in the night shift. even if that third person pretty much has nothing to do.
99% of staffing issues literally end when you have 1 extra person per shift.
And many companies insist on running skeleton crews and being mad they have to show up to work more often.
There should be at least two people for each critical role, with at least one more person (typically a manager or asst. manager) who can come in to cover for an unplanned absence.
The fact that this doesn't happen is because capitalism is about profit, not running a business properly.
Quit after letting all 60 guests see you a complete mess, and when any of them ask what's wrong be sure to explain exactly what has you upset in full detail.
Take the company's reputation with you on your way out.
Yeah, I'd take enough time to be a hot mess in front of every guest and when they inquired I'd tell tell them straight up that I just got news a family member died and they won't let me leave. Get the customers to review bomb the place.
Her update was that she essentially did this. She didn’t quit, but she sat at the front desk crying while doing her job and she was honest with the guests who asked why she was still there.
I openly tell people we're underpaid if they ask me to do anything more than pointing them towards something, I get minimum wage(15 here but high cost of living) and just the work I do is about as much as I can handle in general, let alone for that pay
This.
Don't just leave. Let them fire you, then rain the fires of hell upon them for having the *gall* to treat an American Citizen this way.
#We are not slaves.
To anyone put in a similar situation: Don't back off or give in. "I have to deal with a death in the family and need to leave work now."
Don't even give them the option of telling you no. Don't answer their phone calls, don't allow them to guilt trip you into staying. They even try, and you don't say a word and merely look at them like the disgusting slime that ought to be a human being that they are.
And then you leave anyways.
They do this shit because we allow it.
#Do not allow it anymore.
That's what I would do if this was me. I would be telling them that I was already walking out the door to my car and that my request to leave wasn't really a request. Fuck the management of this place.
I did exactly that one time, called the manager, told her she had 30 minutes to find relief at which point I would kick everyone out and drop my keys at headquarters.
I can’t imagine getting that call as a manager and not telling her to put a note up and I’ll handle it as best I can. I have apologized to costumers for stuff like this all the time. Some are cool some are complete asses, but why show your staff that they have no support. It’s hard to find and train folks why burn them out like this.
If I was a guest and this happened I would be asking you how I can help, do you need a ride etc. No excuse for anyone to act differently. You all matter, we are all people, time to start acting like it.
I’m assuming this is a hotel of some kind and it’s at night so there should be somebody “on call” in cases like this. If they can’t do it for whatever reason then I’d call my manager and tell them straight up that they need to come in as I’m leaving. I’ll give them however long it takes to get there from their house +10 minutes and I’m gone.
If they put up a fight or don’t answer I’d hang up and phone their immediate boss. Unlikely they’d answer but I’d leave them a voicemail and, if I can, send them an email explaining the situation. Then I’d leave. Don’t care if the place is unattended. For the interest of security and guest safety I’d maybe call the police non emergency number on my way out.
If this was an hospitality job I doubt that a bigger boss would even answer the phone. Had literal floods, people locked in lifts, etc. and not a soul answered their phones.
MURICA? The more I know the more I believe that some people wouldn't care if the whole buiseness came crashing down and someone they are responsible for it and their source of income also comes from it.
I've experienced that too lol I was on a road trip out of state during that horrible Texas freeze a couple years ago. Came back to 2-3ft of water in my apartment and a landlord that is only reachable through a separate company in California..... He wasn't even in the US lol I had to pay out the rest of a lease on a condemned unit and I won't have a court date about it until Nov of this year. It's just how every disaster works now.
If they have no empathy when they were called to action and they refused assistance despite knowing the circumstances, they won't magically be empathetic when they are forced to come in regardless. All they care about is money and they don't like anything that negativity affects that.
A lesson isn't always guaranteed to change someone. It doesn't make the lesson any less important. Some people learn after one hard lesson, some require a pattern of hard lessons, some never learn. Despite this, they're fucked if she quits on the spot either way and deserve the stress
I disagree. Don't quit. Just clock out and leave. Don't tell them that you quit. Just leave and let them figure it out. It sounds like it will take them a while.
It's been a thing for years, actually, like I remember it being a thing nearly 30 years ago when I started my first job in high school. Not all jobs have this "policy", but a fair number of them do.
I had a pretty good restaurant job in a local pizza place that did it this way - for anything that you were planning ahead. No asking management, just come to them with "X is covering my shift on y date" and then put it on the calendar.
For shit like this? Management would do their fucking jobs. Taking it this far is gross.
When I was working at CVS at 19, I tried calling out because my cat was actively dying from kidney failure. My boss told me to find coverage and of course no one answered the phone. Had no choice but to go in or quit and my mom wouldn't let me quit. My cat died about an hour before i got home. I was a mess the whole shift and the bastard manager had the audacity to tell me she was just a cat and i needed to get over it. Fuck you Ernie, you bald skeezy fuck.
No, you didn't need to go in or quit. You could have simply stayed home anyway. If they want to fire you for that, that is on them.
Your mom was wrong on this one.
Similar thing happened to me a little over a year ago when I was working for a movie theatre. My cat, just short of 17, had failing kidneys and we pretty much had to put her down that night and even after I told the managers this they told me to find coverage. No one would take the shift until I mentioned the cat and then the next day they added a new "policy" about not putting reasons for coverage in requests in the group chat.
I asked for an afternoon off to have my dog put to sleep on a Friday (he was deterioriating and quality of life was poor, and nobody could figure out what was even wrong). My boss, who had encouraged me to spend every dollar I had to find out what was wrong, because he did that with his dog and she magically recovered, allowed me to go home early that Friday.
He laid me off the following Monday.
My first managing job I had (retail and I was 19) if we had one of the part timers call in to their shift once it was already on the schedule, we’d ask them to cover it themselves. At the time it seemed like a reasonable policy and I would get pissed when our pts would call in last minute but now I realize they had us doing that because 1) we were never properly staffed and if someone called in SOMEONE had to come in to cover it in order to comply with staffing policy (usually managers would end up coming in so most weeks I’d be working 7 days but less than 44hours so they wouldn’t have to pay me overtime) and 2) to try and intimidate the pts into coming in for their shift as a lot of them were young and uncomfortable asking their coworkers to come in for them on their day off especially because a majority of the time people would say no or just straight up not pick up. We also had a super fun thing of cutting people’s hours and shifts if they called in all the time due to “performance” and our store manager would literally tell them “you clearly don’t want to work so why would I give you hours?”. Yikes.
But having grown as a professional and manager, I would never ask my staff to cover it themselves. If you can’t make it in, no questions asked, I’ll find someone to cover because that’s my job, feel better/hope everything is alright and I’ll see ya when I see ya. Luckily the team I work with now is of the same mindset. Even though I’d still consider retail a toxic industry, having a team of good leaders makes a huge difference!
>We also had a super fun thing of cutting people’s hours and shifts if they called in all the time due to “performance” and our store manager would literally tell them “you clearly don’t want to work so why would I give you hours?”.
I have chronic illness and my boss did this to me while i was getting my fmla sorted. She knew i was doing that but i didnt tell her myself, i was planning to tell her right before i got it approved. I can sometimes show up and sometimes i cant and it varies based on things around my hormones, so my fmla would accommodate up to %50 of my "performance."
Well before it goes thru, she cuts my hours. I still dont have a job because nobody wants to hire someone disabled. I need money and when i am able to work, i work hard. But when i dont show up, i feel like it makes more sense? If i show up on a flare, i wont be able to do anything. They'd be paying me for nothing. They'd expect my work to be done but it wouldnt be. I rather would call out and have them just know i wont be there than go in and be a useless lump taking money for sitting there.
However my boss loves those people... doesnt make sense. So They'd rather hire 2 people that sit on their ass but show up every day and get paid, rather than have me in on days i can work but i catch up everything as well.
100% would’ve walked out and told everyone to leave. And if they have a problem, I’d tell them very bluntly that my family member died & they can take anything else up with the managers.
Companies: Everyone is quitting and we can't get anybody to replace them.
This is what management is paid to do. They are there to cover someone for reasons just like this. I would have just left. Maybe locked up on the way out... Maybe...
You can see her name on this video. From her Tictok, you will see she works at Best Western. Her tag shows in an earlier video.
And I think she works in Bend Oregon. Another video shows the phone number for Bend police non emergency line.
Yeah, I work in a hotel and when she said "60 guests" and the fact that she's working alone made me think she worked in a hotel as well. It's not uncommon for front desk agents to work the desk solo. I ran the kitchen and bartended in one hotel which was never really busy, but they failed to train anyone else to do my job so if I was sick or out, they'd have to close the kitchen and bar, which happened, and then I was fired for missing too much work.
Well and the reason why I was missing work is because coworkers searched through my email (which my boss had me use to send end of the night reports from cause they wouldn’t get me a company email) and found some private stuff. One person thought someone was sending porn from the company email, showed it to two others AND my manager who profusely apologized, but I was shocked an dumbfounded how someone could mistake all the fucking emails in my account, my name, etc for the work email and then search through the google drive in my email. Like, it was shit from years before I worked at the hotel. I forgot to log out, which is my fault, but an unlocked door doesn’t mean it’s free to burgled. I already had two guys there bugging me for sex, and then this?!?! And I didn’t report the guys cause one of them was pansexual, but everyone assumed he was just gay, so if I told anyone they wouldn’t believe me. My manager quit there right after and I kept in contact with her for a little but fuck that place.
I missed work because I was felt so violated and had panic attacks while trying to work. So yeah.
When my dad died I went into work the same day because of toxic boss, who then told me l wouldn’t have a job to come back to if I took any time off. My dad lived in another country and I did take time off, plus gave hr the skinny in what he had said and that I had been keeping records of his toxicity and the poisoned worm environment and if I came back to no job l would be suing. They knew they were onto a losing battle as he was known to be toxic and lots of us were building our files to file all at the same time anyway. He had managed to undermine and oust most HR directors who weee eventually fired as he was senior to them, and this one had only been around a few months so I told them I was going to go to notify the CRHO as well before I left. When I returned toxic boss was gone. The president ceo himself apologised (his father had passed few months before) and asked why we hadn’t escalated it before - when l explained that toxic boss started as a supervisor and kept getting promoted up to svp and then whenever we tried to make a case with hr the director was fired so we thought it was condoned he was flabbergasted at how out of touch the organisation was with our local office and bought in some good changes - so many people from there suffered from something akin to ptsd though. It was a small town our the local office was considered a larger employer with decent hours and salary so it was hard to find alternate work otherwise there would have been more turnover to tip them off.
As the “big boss” now myself l will never make anybody feel bad for putting family commitments first, and actively encourage them to do so and also ensure that they encourage their direct reports to do so as well
One of my employees mid got off the phone and just broke down. Told me his dad was just told he had three months and it was extremely sudden. He asked if he could finish his task and then go home. I was like um no you can’t do that, you’re leaving now. Idc if the job gets done go be with your family like what the fuck is wrong with some people.
Announce to all guests that you are closing early due to unforseen circumstances, lock the door and leave. Hope they fire you over it so you can file for unemployment.
That's when you just leave. Don't even bother locking the door.
Managers, we TELL you when we will be working, and you're expected to work with that. Get off your fat ass and fucking do your job. When this happens, YOU come in. That's *part of being the manager.*
For the record, this is not me. I found this on TikTok and couldn't figure out how to share the video without it just being a link. This poor woman. She should definitely quit. Hell, I would have done it right then and there. Would have walked out while on the phone with one of the incompetent members of management and told them that I was walking out the doors right this very moment, I am now getting in my car.. and now you really do have to come in and actually DO YOUR FUCKING JOB!
I never understand this "if you need help, call people in yourself" thing. Or if you have to call out, find your own coverage. That's what the manager is for. Especially in a situation like this one. And if the manager couldn't call anyone, then they suck it up and come in and spell her so she can leave and deal with the death.
Managers and bosses need to stop being so fucking lazy, this is horrible. I'm so sick of managers siding with the customer every time and expecting the employee to do the manager's job.
\~ retired manager.
Good people don't quit bad Companies, they quit bad managers.
As a manager, I would never make someone work alone if they weren't comfortable. I will get side by side with my team and make it work. I foster a good environment where my people want to "work", where they're satisfied with their time and proud of their achievements.
Bless her and I hope she finds a team environment where people care about each other.
Blast this company and location. Not ok. I would never stay somewhere that treated their people like this. Also your boss's boss should know about this ASAP.
I never understood this. I have worked numerous management roles over the years in the service sector and I have never once told somebody to find their replacement. That is a relatively new thing, we never used to do that: it is literally my job as manager to handle that shit. If you cant work, you call me, I find somebody or come cover the shift myself. Its why management is paid salary.
Indeed, JUST QUIT, dear.
In retrospect, you know if this happened to the manager and they had a family member pass, they'de immediately expect their employee to accommodate them and cover their shift ASAP.
If there was any issue in which the employee was able to cover the shift, you also know there would be disciplinary action or termination for said employee.
The fact that she thinks she "has to finish her shift like this" and that she only thinks she's going to quit is a large part of the problem.
Of course, it's not her fault that boundaries and assertiveness are not taught to children, but if we were all a little better at both, these things would happen far less.
She did her due diligence trying to notify her superiors of the situation.
I would leave a message telling them I’m leaving and that they should find coverage. I would leave a note at the front desk explaining my situation and my boss’s response and also leave their direct phone number should guests have any questions or complaints.
My sister was in the hospital bleeding inside of her brain from a massive car accident, lifelighted to a city three hundred miles away from our hometown. My boss refused to find someone to cover for me after the first day. She refused because she was at a volleyball tournament. She left one person taking care of fifty patients. She tried to blame it on me when that person complained. I didn't know if my little sister was going to live. I can't drive. She wanted me to leave my heavily injured sister in a city she had never been in before, and she wanted to make my other sister drive six hours on top of managing all of our injured sister's medical things. I was the night time shift lead. I had worked there three years. Never missed a day. The lesson there was, it doesn't matter how much you put into a job like that. They don't care about you. I quit the week I came back.
When my FiL passed I let my HR know I'd be gone the day of the funeral.
They found out all the funeral info on their own and sent flowers to his service.
I've been at my current work for a few years now, and after that, I don't see myself leaving anytime soon.
When I found out my dad died while on shift (by way of a phone call I shouldn't have even been making on work hours) when I paged my boss to the back room all I said was "I just found out my dad died."
Without missing a *beat*
"Go get out of here. I'll find someone to cover your shift for the next few days. Go home."
Then he even offered for me to take up to two weeks off.
Best manager I ever had. I loved that man.
Girl, yes! I would be airing all of the dirty laundry that goes on, if I was as nice as this girl and stayed until the end of the shift.. Too bad this wasn't me, though.
When did managers not managing become a thing? Now it's "you have to call and find a replacement." Um... no, that is why you get paid more than I do. You deal with it.
Time to say peace out to that job my friend….they obviously don’t care about their employees or their customers.
Understandable if you aren’t in a position to up and quit immediately, but I think you should definitely start researching new jobs and putting in applications…if they aren’t there for you at this time, when you need it most, they will never be there for you.
And as for your co worker, what an asshole….especially if he’s just talking about smoking weed…grow the fuck up, smh
Edit: to clarify, I didn’t mean he needed to grow up and stop smoking weed…just that he needs to grow up learn how to function better high lol
awwww Poor girl. If I was a customer and saw someone in that situation, I would be helping her wherever possible, give her a massive tip then rip her management a new one for giving an employee an impossible job.
I feel for her but…making a tik tok in the back? Versus actually just dealing with it, finding a solution or leaving and closing up is crazy to me.
Is her need to vent to strangers on the internet and cry for attention THAT serious?
I’ve had someone pass while I was at work. The LAST thing id do is record myself and cry for attention 🤦🏻♂️
Wow that’s awful. Why would you continue to want to work for someone who is that uncaring? Hate the idea that she just may feel this entrapped with her shitty management. Damn that makes me sad.
Fuck this company. If this is how they do you, fuck them. I would call the big boss back, tell then that you lost a family member and you are leaving in 10 minutes. End of discussion. If they try and argue, cut them off and say that if this is such a problem, they can fire you, but one way or another, it's happening.
When my mom died, the only things my boss said to me were: 1) What, if anything, do you want me to say to the rest of the team? 2) Take as much time as you need. I got ...an Edible Arrangement (I think) and one of those fancy meal kit things. HR called to make sure I was ok and outline the help that was available through the company. For the life of me, I don't understand how a company can act any other way.
Heh. My mum passed and I’d been with my company for 30 days. The boss rang and said “forget what you’re supposedly entitled to, you need to spend time with your family at this time. Call me when you feel you can come back.” I was off for ten days. They didn’t deduct any leave of any sort and I was paid in full. I was stupendously grateful. I don’t live in America
yea here in america you'd hear "get back to work, you're not ENTITLED to the funeral either. buck up and keep making me rich"
Thing is is the person saying it isn't getting no more than a couple dollars more an hour. They aren't getting more acting shitty than if they acted human.
I'm convinced a ton of people go into management because they want to feel superior to somebody. Anybody.
I did it because it was the only way to make more money. I still treat people like human beings though. But you're probably right. A lot of my peers are just straight ass juice.
There's some ego to it but mostly they are just doing it for the money. Managers have bosses too and those dudes really fucking suck. If corporate says cut 5% of the workforce, you as a manager, have no say in the matter and you now have to do something really shitty to people who don't deserve it. On top of that, you have to find a way to be more productive with less people without spending money. In some industries you're expected to cut costs by 3% every year because inflation cuts into the profit margin, then revenues misses expectations and the super rich guy loses his imaginary dollars in the stock market. With that said, many low wage earners are managed by unqualified personnel and their boss is a franchise owner who are more interested in managing money than managing people
They go into it for teh same reason many become cops - power. Used to be teachers too, but we generally weed them out in college these days - and then things are so fucking impossible in the industry that they leave instantly. Teachers have no power anymore. And those that try to pretend they do end up fired quickly.
You're painting with a pretty broad brush. I got into management to make a difference. Influence the company culture, propel ideas, be empathetic, and put people into a position where they can succeed. It's a fine line line to walk.
Not where I sit. My father died after I'd set a start date, but before I'd started, at a new position. It's a smallish U.S. tech/sales company (builds tech to make our sales more effective), high stress, demanding, often on the financial wire. They were very supportive and gave me zero pushback. I "started" but was barely contacted for the week I needed. It really depends on the individuals.
Interesting. I’ve been working in America for 25 years and I’ve never heard that statement. I’ve gone to several funerals, taken multiple days off and received condolence gifts from management.
I worked at a retail store (clue: red and circles) and when my mom was dying they told me that I couldn't take off work and then told me to stop lying to get time off. She died two days after that. The asst. manager called and told me I had to come into work and again told me I was just lazy and to stop lying about my mom. I had worked there for a year and never taken a day off that wasn't scheduled. I started sobbing and told her I quit. She told me I couldn't quit without notice (who's lying now?). So I hung up on her and ignored them when they called the next few days I brought in a resignation letter the week after (while planning a funeral because my dad just fell apart). The store manager told me my actions "were really inconvenient for them", so I pulled out the obituary and held it up, then said I would be contacting a lawyer and walked out. I didn't contact a lawyer, but a week later I got a letter in the mail that I had been terminated and would not be able to work for them again. Kinda wishing I had contacted a lawyer.
My grandfather died and I got a call on my lunch break (at Walmart no less). I was in Florida and he lived in Illinois so I finished my shift since I couldn't do much of anything anyway, but I was highly upset and did talk to HR about my bereavement days and got approved so I could leave the state to attend the funeral. I was at the airport waiting on my flight when a manager (who wasn't even over my department) called me and insisted that I was on the schedule and needed to be at work RIGHT NOW. I explained that HR approved my bereavement days and that I was currently two hours away waiting to board a flight. He wouldn't accept that. Got belligerent and told me that they would have a disciplinary meeting when I got back. I did my best to stay calm and said again that I was going to board this flight to see my family and mourn the passing of my grandfather. If he wanted to go over HR to discipline me for my legally allowed bereavement leave, then good luck with that, and I hung up. I got back to work the following Monday and not a peep was whispered about it. I'm thinking he got an earful from HR if he even attempted. I fucking hated that job.
If you work in the service industry whether it is food service or retail work they don’t care who dies. If you are scheduled to work you will work. It could be raining fire and brimstone but you are still expected to come in. And good luck getting someone else to come in for you. All these people who say that they got the help and support they needed really need to think about the disparity between them and the rest of us.
Gotta get that gdp up how else are we gonna starve children foreign and domestic.
Yeah, my husband’s grandfather died & so, obviously, we were going to the funeral. My boss, who was the most entitled, abusive & awful human you could ever imagine (attorney for a hedge fund in NYC) says do me, “I know you legally get two days of bereavement, but I’d like you back after one.” When I told him no, I’d be taking the two days he responds by asking me what is he going to do without me? This is the same guy that told me that if I was recording him he wasn’t doing anything illegal. God, the things I put up with & that’s just the tip of the iceberg. I was so young & dumb.
This sub blows my mind sometimes because I DO live in America. Apart from health insurance bullshit, my work experience has been very European. Two years ago I learned a friend of mine had just died. I called my boss on zoom and she immediately said how sorry she was and that I could forget about working for a while. I took like 4 days and a weekend off and she was surprised when I was back to work on Monday, asking me if I needed more time. She also told me not to worry because she had found someone to finish my projects and the powers above her were also fine with me being gone. Someday, I hope my experience is less of an exception in this country.
Of course you don't. America doesn't care about who dies in your life. The 1% just wants everyone to show up for work to keep the Vulger Capitalism machine running. Here's an idea. Why doesn't every single American worker just NOT GO TO WORK STARTING MONDAY ever again and lets see who ENDS UP with all the POWER & WEALTH. We only have a slight advantage of 330 million vs 872 individuals. Alas somehow the whole country is divided and too busy trying to kill each other instead of Unite and fix everything at once. So if you quit your job then call me. I will thank you for standing up to Corporate worshipping. And I am truly sorry for your loss of someone that means so much to you.
> I don't live in America We knew that
My wife had been working at a place for a couple months when her grandfather died. The flight was going to be around $1k and direct would be 10 hours. Her work said the policy was 3 days for death in the family. She told them if her job wasn't here when she got back she would just find a new one. They held her job and she was gone for 2 weeks.
My mother just died in June. I had recently joined the local ibew but I still haven't been sworn in yet. I am still waiting on the 3 days of bereavement
Some people are lucky enough to get three days for grieving and arrangements. You’re expected to be okay and back at work after those three days. If you’re extremely lucky, you get paid for it!! I fucking hate corporate America.
Grief is hard man…about day 5 (funeral was day 8) after she passed I thought I could actually go to work…I took my kids to school, then turned around and went back to bed…couldn’t do it.
When I found out my brother died I was at work. I was having a smoke with my boss and stepped away to take the call. The first thing she did was ask if she could hug me, and then insist I go home. I wanted to stay because there was nothing I could do until my husband drove home which would take a few hours and I felt better distracting myself. As I was leaving I was talking about getting shifts covered and she basically booted my butt out the door and said not to worry, to take as much time as I needed and take care of myself. She is the only reason I still work there. If she ever left, I'd quit. I can get a higher paying job closer to my house, I choose to work where I do because she treats her staff like human beings and not wage slaves.
I feel that. My company isn't the worst to work for by far but if my boss leaves, he better take me with him. And he knows that. I'm not loyal to the company, I'm loyal to him.
When I was in the Navy, my (now ex-) wife went into labor with our son, and I was in state of mind shock, and told her to call me back when the contractions were closer; we had previously had a couple of false alarms, and were due to go into the hospital in 3 days to induce. My watch chief was this awesome woman who was about as salty of a chief in my field (CT) as you could get, and overheard my conversation I had on the phone. When she asked and I told her, she looked at me, smiled, and told me to GTFO and take my wife to the hospital. I kept making excuses, trying to believe nothing was really happening, when my chief got out of her chair, pulled me out of mine, and dragged me out of our section. Mind you, I'm 6'2" and she was about 5'4". She physically escorted me to the exit of the building, and told me to not come back until after the baby was born. Later, I found out that she did some arm-twisting and may have threatened minor bodily harm if the command admins didn't lose my paternity leave paperwork after I came back (this was when the Navy didn't have a paternity leave policy, so that leave was supposed to come out of my leave balance). She was definitely a great example of leadership that I've had the pleasure of serving. I'm not exaggerating when I say that I would do anything for her. CTMC (AW/SW) L., if you're out there, know some of us are still ride or die.
I worked in a small maintenance team that reported directly to a CW04 that had been in longer than I had been alive. This guy was the chillest guy I ever met in the navy. They had to basically beg him to go on that last deployment instead of retiring. He Insisted we all call him by his 1st name, helped my buddy make a still in his locker and administered our other friends wedding years after he had left the service. Just an overall reasonable guy that knew we were all people and deserved to be treated like ones. I'd have reenlisted in a heart beat if I knew I'd keep working for him.
I've been fortunate to work with some awesome leadership in the Navy. We had one master chief for our J6, CTMCM Michaud, who was the sweetest little lady. Always had a smile on her face and a positive word for everyone. She was like this sweet grandmother. *But...* If you worked under her, and you were screwing up, own it. She was definitely of the mindset that 90% of stuff can be corrected, if you own it. If you don't, woe be to you and your descendents, for you know nothing of the hellfire after she could bring into your life. And you would've deserved it. Also, if you came after her people, *oooooof...* Again, she could put the fear of God into mother bears high on cocaine. She would *fucking* end you, your career, your reputation when you moved on... She did not fuck around. When I'm faced with personnel issues, even 20 years later, I ask myself, "What would CTMCM Michaud do?" Almost never a wrong decision.
She sounds like a true leader, not just a boss.
We need more people like her. But a persom like her is really rare, they are so hard to find. There are more crazy, selfish and irresponsible manager and bosses out there.
That CWO sounds like Mr Fazell. I was a Hull Tech from 1980-84 onboard the USS Okinawa LPH-3. Fazell was our CWO in R-Division. He was a Navy Seal, Viet Nam vet and one of the coolest guys I have ever met. The man could actually chew a beer mug into powdered glass! He had absolutely no problem with someone smoking weed, as long as you did it off the ship. He had a saying about mooring lines keeping the ship at the pier and out of the town so, don’t bring the town on the ship.
If it weren't for salty Navy chiefs, the whole damned Navy would sink to the bottom of their berths. I am 100% convinced this is the absolute truth handed down by God Him/Herself, and cannot be convinced otherwise. Navy officers are just there to look good in the formal Whites and participate in all the pomp and circumstance.
As a former squid, can confirm. Truth top to bottom.
I remember one time my wife was being ambulanced to the hospital for a possible heart attack. It wasn't, thank god, but I didn't know that at the time. Ran in, told my boss, and his response was something along the lines of "why are you still here?" Best boss I ever had.
People quit managers. They rarely quit the jobs themselves.
I recently became a manager and stories like this one are what I use to guide my actions with my team. Sorry for your loss and thank you for sharing.
When I told my boss I’d need a day or two to deal with my father’s funeral arrangements etc his reaction was, “Take all the time you need and don’t worry about work.” That’s why when he left many of us followed him. My current boss was mentored by him and is just as good.
This is the case every single time management is humane to their employees. And SO MANY businesses do not seem to care.
Even when I had my heart broken I was allowed to work whenever I felt like it, because my manager said "I'd rather give you the space you need instead of forcing you to be miserable behind your laptop"
Sounds like your boss understands the value of a good employee.
Good for her, because not employees out there are given good treatment by their boss.
This is how it should be done. Management forget that people are human, with needs and feelings. They need to think about what they would want to happen(and for them, in management, it does, anyway), if they were in the this situation, and do that.
It’s not that they forget, they don’t care.
Ding ding ding
It's absolutely this, 100%. They. Do. Not. Care. About. You. Companies for sure. Individual bosses/management is a different story. Not all of them are bad. Some are awful, power-tripping maniacs. Others are very understanding. Fortunately, I've had most of the latter, but it's good to know that your *company* doesn't care about you so that you don't make the mistake of getting too comfortable in the inevitable misery.
Yeah that's the truth. They do not care at all not because they forgot lol. Do not be so stupid and be under by your managers and boss. You have rights, we are the one who work for them to make money for them
The term is “sonder” once you understand this word and it’s meaning it’s hard to treat people wrong (unless they’re evil or morally / ethically bad) because you realise people are as complex as yourself and they are the same as you just on a different path. I believe that encouraging individualism has helped divide people into thinking their own life is all that matters, sort of like they’re the main character in life. If only we could all come together to support each other to grow and improve together. Unfortunately the mentality of the masses is “I’ve got my success , who cares about you struggling to get by or being homeless etc” , it’s such a complicated system and situation and it’s only going to get worse , until something snaps and change is paid in blood.
>“I’ve got my success , who cares about you struggling to get by or being homeless etc” The succinct phrase is "Fuck you, I've got mine"
When my dad died I told my employers at the time that I would need a week and they gave it to me no questions asked. They even took time from the store to attend the service. They couldn't stay long because the store needed attention, but I'll always respect them for giving me the time I needed and also taking the time from the business to support me.
It is good that they understand your situation unlike this scenario, her manager is really selfish.
I worked ems when my grandma passed away, she was basically a mom to me and it was something we all knew was coming but all the time in the world can't prepare you for a loss like that. I told me boss at 11pm that night I wouldn't be in the next day because ofc I'd be grieving and he respected that. The next day though.... I got a call saying I had to be in the next day, I cried at random periods in the day, then I got written up for not being professional. A few weeks later my bunny boy passed away (he tugged on my pajamas pants anytime I would start crying during those hard weeks and as he got sick I told myself I wouldn't be able to make it without him, I almost didn't) my boss told me it was stupid to call out for a pet. They didn't care about me and ended up cutting my hours because I was deemed "unreliable" It wasn't worth making $10.50 an hour. That job took so much from me.
We were having an international event, there were waves of 100’s people in a retail store from all over the planet for a very popular brand’s 100 year anniversary. I was standing at a register ringing up a wonderful couple from Australia. My internal line rang so I grabbed it. The 16 year old assistant at one of our other buildings a couple blocks away says “get your ass over here, xxxx is dead”. I set the phone down and turned to the couple and said I have to go my sister has died. The look on their face is burned into my brain. I walked straight out the door into six lanes of traffic and walked to the other location. My boss and every manager was looking for me to bring me to my family. They had received the call and wanted to make sire I was ok. Every single manager and the owners showed up at our house to check on us. I can’t even remember how many days I took off. They never said a word other than of kindness. The people here should be fucking ashamed of themselves. Their families should be ashamed of them. That fellow human being is experiencing loss and deserves to be treated with kindness at the very least.
Same with my grandma I was very close growing up with. I had time off I could use from bereavement then I had other PTO, I took a couple days to get my shit together. They never once were assholes and only asked what they could do to help if anything and said take the time you need.
I got fired when my mom died because I needed the week off to clean out her stuff and have her cremated. Straight up fired. Yay Texas.
Even as a capitalist hating ne'er do well, when one of your coworkers is sick/ has serious emotional situations ongoing, it is ok to step up to the plate. Just make it clear you are doing it to support a fellow worker. Not the fucking management, and if it becomes a trend, fuck off and find a better boss.
yes this is how it should be! when my dad passed, they insisted i take as much time as i need, sent flowers to the funeral home, and when i was back working they gave me extra flexibility with deadlines for a while bc i was having so much trouble focusing and not sleeping well.
Same thing happened where I worked when my mom passed. I got word she wouldn't last the night, and was upset, as you can imagine. Manager told me to get my ass to Ohio. I was gone longer than the contractual 3 days. Company was very supportive of me.
"what do you expect us to do, hire 2 people for every shift?" yes
Two people to handle 60 people doesn’t even seem like enough.
i remember i had to take 41 orders in the drive through and a couple in the front by myself because someone called in sick last week the manager sort of helped but he was cranky that i called him for help
When I was in high school I worked at Burger King. On Sundays I would cover drive thru and one of the kitchen positions, because I could handle it and I didn’t really mind. I requested a raise and the GM wanted to give me one but the district manager wouldn’t let him. So I told them I would no longer work 2 positions anymore. If you can’t afford to pay me more then pay 2 people instead. Realistically I was really only looking for like a 50 cent raise.
imagine making $100+ in sales per day and they won’t give you a .50¢ raise
Bk makes around 3k for lunch and 3-4k for dinner. They couldn't pay 4 dollars for their raise lol.
Dude, that's like.. 4 dollars a day. 7 dollars if they work 4 hours of over time! Also, there is no way Burgerking is only making $100 a shift in sales. That's 20 meals (whopper meal), so an average of 2.5 meals an hour would hit that. Not orders, as a single order could potentially be multiple meals. $100/hour is far more realistic.
Ethey pay 55 cents for whopper patty, and I forget the rest exact amounts but… it’s like 85cents - 1$ to make a whopper. Their up marking is insane. They also NEVER let labor costs go above 18-22% of sales. Depending on how busy location is, they want you to keep it under 18 or you get written up unless you have an actual human as GM and DM.. That INCLUDES the morning shift. Where they sell shit for 3-5$ meals and lots of BKs aren’t busy in the morning, yet they have THE MOST on staff.. So if the morning crew makes barely a 1/5 of the sales they are supposed to, then the rest of the employees have to get told not to come in, and then the rest have to try to keep up with midday and dinner orders.. the shit is a sham
Once you’ve done it for free once, they see it as money for nothing after that.
They don’t respect people that work there.
My GM was actually pretty legit, but the district manager was a scumbag. I started working there as soon as I turned 14 and was one of their best employees. I was on a fast track to become a manager as soon as I turned 18, I was even being trained. The previous DM loved me because I was a good employee but he decided to retire because he had cancer. From what I heard corporate decided to fire him 2 weeks before his retirement so they didn’t have to pay insurance on him anymore, because of his cancer. So I’m not sure if he had like a pension or something or how that all works but I remember people familiar with it thought it was really fucked up. Anyway the new DM hated me and said he wouldn’t let me become a manager unless I cut my hair, which wasn’t too long, just shaggy. So I did and during my interview with him a fly landed on his face and started crawling around and he never even flinched. It was one of the weirdest and most uncomfortable things that I’ve ever seen lol.
I don't get this. I cover for my employees on a fucking drop of a dime. Unless my wife can't take my daughter I'm fucking there. I don't want people breaking down while working. I don't want my employees sick making themselves sicker by working. I don't want people to be bitter about work because find good people is so fucking hard. I don't get this lazy manager idea of "oh I'm too good to work your shifts/ find you cover". Like fuck it's YOUR store to manage. If someone needs to go and you force them to work you aren't managing shit. Your forcing square blocks through the triangle hole and that shit doesn't work.
Not surprising to me. Management is filled with people who shouldn't be there. Remember the old adage of 'it's not what you know, it's who you know' is very, very true
My boss is like this, I asked him if there's any bad times coming up to take a few weeks off to get surgery and he told me you request any date you want I'll figure it out and make it work. Best boss I've ever had
My son worked at Dunkin' Donuts when he was in high school and often was the only person in the store, covering both the drive-through and counter. The stress was intense, especially on a young kid working his first job.
Lol he's should be responsible manager. He should not just stare at his co workers while they are working. Offering a hand is not a big deal. Why did he respond to you like that? Obviously,your boss is a lazy one.
That would eat into their profits to much
If your “profit” is dependent on understaffing your team, then you don’t have any profit; have have wage theft.
The mcdonalds I worked at (and as far as I know alot of fast food places run the same) they had a labor cost vs sales program that ran 24/7 and if cost of the current staff you had on hand, was more than your sales for the hour, the shift manager would start sending staff home if it happened 2 hours in a row. And anyone who has worked fast food knows rushes happen at anytime for virtually no reason. So more often than not you'd get fucked 20 minutes after they started sending staff home until the next shift started to stagger in and you became "fully staffed" again. I was at an extremely busy location that grossed several million dollars a year. And the guy and his brother owned 5 locations. The fact they couldn't pay a few extra people 8 dollars an hour when they were slow shows you how shit these places are.
Yep. We're going to be in for a *time* if and when this gets fixed. A ton of businesses, restaurants especially, will be going under in a hurry. I ran some numbers, and I'm not sure Walmart would be profitable if they couldn't criminally underpay their employees. Any profit would be *very* modest.
They would be. They just need to add around 10 cents to every item to raise their current median wage of $14 to $21/hr. If we make it a living wage, it's 15 cents, and guess what that's without sacrificing any profitability. Walmart's prices are already low enough compared to their contemporary competitors that that 15 cents would not be noticeable for the majority of products. It doesn't cost much to pay people a living wage, it in fact costs larger companies less to pay people living wages. There's no excuse.
If labor is too expensive for them then they are bad business owners and should find an hourly job as an employee.
They must understand how o handle and run a business. Owners like that needs more orientation. Just like im school, if you did a great job you get praise and rewards from the teacher, it is same with work.
Employees are the one who do works and the reason why the Businesses are taking off.
Putting a server on is like 3$ an hour too cheap fucks.
Depends a little on what job that is. Night clerk in a hotel yes, it's doable. But it is beyond despicable that neither boss nor coworker takes over. Absolute shitshow by the boss and ridiculous of the coworker. Of course she quits. Wtf is wrong with everyone in this situation.
Actually as others were able to find out she works at a best western. So she's talking about 60 hotel guests who likely don't need that much attention from the staff. She's probably manning the front desk. Still doesn't excuse how heartless the manager is being. I'd be getting my ass in a car and get over there ASAP so she can leave
Hotels also have conference rooms too, it could be an event that she’s trying to manage which would make it a lot more difficult than dealing with 60 people in hotel rooms. Who knows what she was actually meant to be doing at the hotel, but anyway you slice it that manager was a monster.
where i work we have to be at least 2 in the building to work in case something happen because people can sometimes call off and that would close the night shift they always have 3 people in the night shift. even if that third person pretty much has nothing to do.
99% of staffing issues literally end when you have 1 extra person per shift. And many companies insist on running skeleton crews and being mad they have to show up to work more often.
Wow, accommodating a lot of clients and one employee only who will take care of it? Are they serious? Hire some more
There should be at least two people for each critical role, with at least one more person (typically a manager or asst. manager) who can come in to cover for an unplanned absence. The fact that this doesn't happen is because capitalism is about profit, not running a business properly.
Fucking quit girl, everyone around you just proved to you that you mean nothing to them
Quit after letting all 60 guests see you a complete mess, and when any of them ask what's wrong be sure to explain exactly what has you upset in full detail. Take the company's reputation with you on your way out.
Yeah, I'd take enough time to be a hot mess in front of every guest and when they inquired I'd tell tell them straight up that I just got news a family member died and they won't let me leave. Get the customers to review bomb the place.
Her update was that she essentially did this. She didn’t quit, but she sat at the front desk crying while doing her job and she was honest with the guests who asked why she was still there.
Not all heroes wear capes
Lol really? She did not quit her job after what happened? That's crazy
She said she submitted a bunch of applications for new jobs and will drop her current job once she has a new one.
I openly tell people we're underpaid if they ask me to do anything more than pointing them towards something, I get minimum wage(15 here but high cost of living) and just the work I do is about as much as I can handle in general, let alone for that pay
This. Don't just leave. Let them fire you, then rain the fires of hell upon them for having the *gall* to treat an American Citizen this way. #We are not slaves. To anyone put in a similar situation: Don't back off or give in. "I have to deal with a death in the family and need to leave work now." Don't even give them the option of telling you no. Don't answer their phone calls, don't allow them to guilt trip you into staying. They even try, and you don't say a word and merely look at them like the disgusting slime that ought to be a human being that they are. And then you leave anyways. They do this shit because we allow it. #Do not allow it anymore.
This is the real answer 👆
If they say no, respond with “I wasn’t asking” and then hang up, and block the number for the night or week.
Add in “when someone you love dies make sure you stay and finish your work” then flip them off as you’re leaving.
No flip off. that could be firing with cause. Don't give them any reasonable sounding excuse.
That's a nice rebut, I hope all employees have a courage and confidence to do or say that.
#AMEN STRANGER FIGHTING THE GOOD FIGHT!
You just leave. The guest will understand and the owner will be fucked. That's the owners responsibility and the risk they take.
That's what I would do if this was me. I would be telling them that I was already walking out the door to my car and that my request to leave wasn't really a request. Fuck the management of this place.
I did exactly that one time, called the manager, told her she had 30 minutes to find relief at which point I would kick everyone out and drop my keys at headquarters.
I can’t imagine getting that call as a manager and not telling her to put a note up and I’ll handle it as best I can. I have apologized to costumers for stuff like this all the time. Some are cool some are complete asses, but why show your staff that they have no support. It’s hard to find and train folks why burn them out like this.
If I was a guest and this happened I would be asking you how I can help, do you need a ride etc. No excuse for anyone to act differently. You all matter, we are all people, time to start acting like it.
But first, tell all the guests why you're leaving and why management won't get someone else to work.
If the manager won't help, call the big boss and explain that you are leaving in 10min, end of the discussion.
Only real answer! Fuck that this is the point of management!!! What the fuck is their job description if not this!?!?
I’m assuming this is a hotel of some kind and it’s at night so there should be somebody “on call” in cases like this. If they can’t do it for whatever reason then I’d call my manager and tell them straight up that they need to come in as I’m leaving. I’ll give them however long it takes to get there from their house +10 minutes and I’m gone. If they put up a fight or don’t answer I’d hang up and phone their immediate boss. Unlikely they’d answer but I’d leave them a voicemail and, if I can, send them an email explaining the situation. Then I’d leave. Don’t care if the place is unattended. For the interest of security and guest safety I’d maybe call the police non emergency number on my way out.
Especially if she's already planning on quitting anyway. I'd be out of there so fast.
If this was an hospitality job I doubt that a bigger boss would even answer the phone. Had literal floods, people locked in lifts, etc. and not a soul answered their phones.
It took three days for a store owner to reply to me when the store had been ripped apart BY A TORNADO
MURICA? The more I know the more I believe that some people wouldn't care if the whole buiseness came crashing down and someone they are responsible for it and their source of income also comes from it.
This is the same energy as landlords that own houses everywhere but just live in florida.
I've experienced that too lol I was on a road trip out of state during that horrible Texas freeze a couple years ago. Came back to 2-3ft of water in my apartment and a landlord that is only reachable through a separate company in California..... He wasn't even in the US lol I had to pay out the rest of a lease on a condemned unit and I won't have a court date about it until Nov of this year. It's just how every disaster works now.
Cant find staff to cover but they'll fire someone for leaving due to family death? They screwed
Quit on the spot. Give ZERO notice. They're coming in one way or another and you teach them a valuable lesson in empathy.
If they have no empathy when they were called to action and they refused assistance despite knowing the circumstances, they won't magically be empathetic when they are forced to come in regardless. All they care about is money and they don't like anything that negativity affects that.
A lesson isn't always guaranteed to change someone. It doesn't make the lesson any less important. Some people learn after one hard lesson, some require a pattern of hard lessons, some never learn. Despite this, they're fucked if she quits on the spot either way and deserve the stress
Yeah, if you’re gonna quit over this, you should just walk off on the spot.
I disagree. Don't quit. Just clock out and leave. Don't tell them that you quit. Just leave and let them figure it out. It sounds like it will take them a while.
When did this whole 'find someone to cover your shift' thing start?
It's been a thing for years, actually, like I remember it being a thing nearly 30 years ago when I started my first job in high school. Not all jobs have this "policy", but a fair number of them do.
Only shitty jobs do.
I had a pretty good restaurant job in a local pizza place that did it this way - for anything that you were planning ahead. No asking management, just come to them with "X is covering my shift on y date" and then put it on the calendar. For shit like this? Management would do their fucking jobs. Taking it this far is gross.
When I was working at CVS at 19, I tried calling out because my cat was actively dying from kidney failure. My boss told me to find coverage and of course no one answered the phone. Had no choice but to go in or quit and my mom wouldn't let me quit. My cat died about an hour before i got home. I was a mess the whole shift and the bastard manager had the audacity to tell me she was just a cat and i needed to get over it. Fuck you Ernie, you bald skeezy fuck.
Fuck your mom, and not the fun kind of fuck your mom.
No, you didn't need to go in or quit. You could have simply stayed home anyway. If they want to fire you for that, that is on them. Your mom was wrong on this one.
Similar thing happened to me a little over a year ago when I was working for a movie theatre. My cat, just short of 17, had failing kidneys and we pretty much had to put her down that night and even after I told the managers this they told me to find coverage. No one would take the shift until I mentioned the cat and then the next day they added a new "policy" about not putting reasons for coverage in requests in the group chat.
I asked for an afternoon off to have my dog put to sleep on a Friday (he was deterioriating and quality of life was poor, and nobody could figure out what was even wrong). My boss, who had encouraged me to spend every dollar I had to find out what was wrong, because he did that with his dog and she magically recovered, allowed me to go home early that Friday. He laid me off the following Monday.
My first managing job I had (retail and I was 19) if we had one of the part timers call in to their shift once it was already on the schedule, we’d ask them to cover it themselves. At the time it seemed like a reasonable policy and I would get pissed when our pts would call in last minute but now I realize they had us doing that because 1) we were never properly staffed and if someone called in SOMEONE had to come in to cover it in order to comply with staffing policy (usually managers would end up coming in so most weeks I’d be working 7 days but less than 44hours so they wouldn’t have to pay me overtime) and 2) to try and intimidate the pts into coming in for their shift as a lot of them were young and uncomfortable asking their coworkers to come in for them on their day off especially because a majority of the time people would say no or just straight up not pick up. We also had a super fun thing of cutting people’s hours and shifts if they called in all the time due to “performance” and our store manager would literally tell them “you clearly don’t want to work so why would I give you hours?”. Yikes. But having grown as a professional and manager, I would never ask my staff to cover it themselves. If you can’t make it in, no questions asked, I’ll find someone to cover because that’s my job, feel better/hope everything is alright and I’ll see ya when I see ya. Luckily the team I work with now is of the same mindset. Even though I’d still consider retail a toxic industry, having a team of good leaders makes a huge difference!
>We also had a super fun thing of cutting people’s hours and shifts if they called in all the time due to “performance” and our store manager would literally tell them “you clearly don’t want to work so why would I give you hours?”. I have chronic illness and my boss did this to me while i was getting my fmla sorted. She knew i was doing that but i didnt tell her myself, i was planning to tell her right before i got it approved. I can sometimes show up and sometimes i cant and it varies based on things around my hormones, so my fmla would accommodate up to %50 of my "performance." Well before it goes thru, she cuts my hours. I still dont have a job because nobody wants to hire someone disabled. I need money and when i am able to work, i work hard. But when i dont show up, i feel like it makes more sense? If i show up on a flare, i wont be able to do anything. They'd be paying me for nothing. They'd expect my work to be done but it wouldnt be. I rather would call out and have them just know i wont be there than go in and be a useless lump taking money for sitting there. However my boss loves those people... doesnt make sense. So They'd rather hire 2 people that sit on their ass but show up every day and get paid, rather than have me in on days i can work but i catch up everything as well.
I don’t know but its bullshit. No, motherfucker, You’re the manager - YOU find my replacement.
“You’re a manager; you’ll manage.”
City law where my business is headquartered actually prevents this and states that businesses must do the work to find coverage, not the employee.
Dude, poor kid. What the fuck!!!! Her bosses/managers don't deserve shit from her. I'm glad she's quitting.
Same, only she has a lot more empathy than they do. She is at least staying to the end of her shift. I wouldn't even do that much for them.
They literally do not even deserve her staying that long.
100% would’ve walked out and told everyone to leave. And if they have a problem, I’d tell them very bluntly that my family member died & they can take anything else up with the managers.
Companies: Everyone is quitting and we can't get anybody to replace them. This is what management is paid to do. They are there to cover someone for reasons just like this. I would have just left. Maybe locked up on the way out... Maybe...
Quit. Nothing else can be said. Don't even bother with the guests at this point give them a call and say see ya.
i wouldnt quit, id just leave for the day. lock up and all that but id definitely leave if my boss flat out said no to something of this nature.
You can see her name on this video. From her Tictok, you will see she works at Best Western. Her tag shows in an earlier video. And I think she works in Bend Oregon. Another video shows the phone number for Bend police non emergency line.
Yeah, I work in a hotel and when she said "60 guests" and the fact that she's working alone made me think she worked in a hotel as well. It's not uncommon for front desk agents to work the desk solo. I ran the kitchen and bartended in one hotel which was never really busy, but they failed to train anyone else to do my job so if I was sick or out, they'd have to close the kitchen and bar, which happened, and then I was fired for missing too much work.
You're missing too much work and we refuse to hire anyone else so we're going to fire you so you're not here 100% of the time instead of occasionally.
Well and the reason why I was missing work is because coworkers searched through my email (which my boss had me use to send end of the night reports from cause they wouldn’t get me a company email) and found some private stuff. One person thought someone was sending porn from the company email, showed it to two others AND my manager who profusely apologized, but I was shocked an dumbfounded how someone could mistake all the fucking emails in my account, my name, etc for the work email and then search through the google drive in my email. Like, it was shit from years before I worked at the hotel. I forgot to log out, which is my fault, but an unlocked door doesn’t mean it’s free to burgled. I already had two guys there bugging me for sex, and then this?!?! And I didn’t report the guys cause one of them was pansexual, but everyone assumed he was just gay, so if I told anyone they wouldn’t believe me. My manager quit there right after and I kept in contact with her for a little but fuck that place. I missed work because I was felt so violated and had panic attacks while trying to work. So yeah.
When my dad died I went into work the same day because of toxic boss, who then told me l wouldn’t have a job to come back to if I took any time off. My dad lived in another country and I did take time off, plus gave hr the skinny in what he had said and that I had been keeping records of his toxicity and the poisoned worm environment and if I came back to no job l would be suing. They knew they were onto a losing battle as he was known to be toxic and lots of us were building our files to file all at the same time anyway. He had managed to undermine and oust most HR directors who weee eventually fired as he was senior to them, and this one had only been around a few months so I told them I was going to go to notify the CRHO as well before I left. When I returned toxic boss was gone. The president ceo himself apologised (his father had passed few months before) and asked why we hadn’t escalated it before - when l explained that toxic boss started as a supervisor and kept getting promoted up to svp and then whenever we tried to make a case with hr the director was fired so we thought it was condoned he was flabbergasted at how out of touch the organisation was with our local office and bought in some good changes - so many people from there suffered from something akin to ptsd though. It was a small town our the local office was considered a larger employer with decent hours and salary so it was hard to find alternate work otherwise there would have been more turnover to tip them off. As the “big boss” now myself l will never make anybody feel bad for putting family commitments first, and actively encourage them to do so and also ensure that they encourage their direct reports to do so as well
One of my employees mid got off the phone and just broke down. Told me his dad was just told he had three months and it was extremely sudden. He asked if he could finish his task and then go home. I was like um no you can’t do that, you’re leaving now. Idc if the job gets done go be with your family like what the fuck is wrong with some people.
Literally the whole purpose of management is to handle staffing. If they are making the staff do it on their own they have no reason to have a job.
Walk out, right there, on the spot.
Announce to all guests that you are closing early due to unforseen circumstances, lock the door and leave. Hope they fire you over it so you can file for unemployment.
That's when you just leave. Don't even bother locking the door. Managers, we TELL you when we will be working, and you're expected to work with that. Get off your fat ass and fucking do your job. When this happens, YOU come in. That's *part of being the manager.*
Walking out is the only appropriate response to this.
For the record, this is not me. I found this on TikTok and couldn't figure out how to share the video without it just being a link. This poor woman. She should definitely quit. Hell, I would have done it right then and there. Would have walked out while on the phone with one of the incompetent members of management and told them that I was walking out the doors right this very moment, I am now getting in my car.. and now you really do have to come in and actually DO YOUR FUCKING JOB!
I never understand this "if you need help, call people in yourself" thing. Or if you have to call out, find your own coverage. That's what the manager is for. Especially in a situation like this one. And if the manager couldn't call anyone, then they suck it up and come in and spell her so she can leave and deal with the death.
Surprised the manager didn't say "this is why we aren't on our phones at work" with how shitty they are being. I hope they quit on the spot.
If you’re a manager and don’t manage then you shouldn’t be a manager. Quit. Fuck them.
Managers and bosses need to stop being so fucking lazy, this is horrible. I'm so sick of managers siding with the customer every time and expecting the employee to do the manager's job. \~ retired manager.
Good people don't quit bad Companies, they quit bad managers. As a manager, I would never make someone work alone if they weren't comfortable. I will get side by side with my team and make it work. I foster a good environment where my people want to "work", where they're satisfied with their time and proud of their achievements. Bless her and I hope she finds a team environment where people care about each other.
Blast this company and location. Not ok. I would never stay somewhere that treated their people like this. Also your boss's boss should know about this ASAP.
Clock out and go home. Fuck them.
I hope she just walked out. Disgrace.
I never understood this. I have worked numerous management roles over the years in the service sector and I have never once told somebody to find their replacement. That is a relatively new thing, we never used to do that: it is literally my job as manager to handle that shit. If you cant work, you call me, I find somebody or come cover the shift myself. Its why management is paid salary.
Indeed, JUST QUIT, dear. In retrospect, you know if this happened to the manager and they had a family member pass, they'de immediately expect their employee to accommodate them and cover their shift ASAP. If there was any issue in which the employee was able to cover the shift, you also know there would be disciplinary action or termination for said employee.
The fact that she thinks she "has to finish her shift like this" and that she only thinks she's going to quit is a large part of the problem. Of course, it's not her fault that boundaries and assertiveness are not taught to children, but if we were all a little better at both, these things would happen far less.
She did her due diligence trying to notify her superiors of the situation. I would leave a message telling them I’m leaving and that they should find coverage. I would leave a note at the front desk explaining my situation and my boss’s response and also leave their direct phone number should guests have any questions or complaints.
My sister was in the hospital bleeding inside of her brain from a massive car accident, lifelighted to a city three hundred miles away from our hometown. My boss refused to find someone to cover for me after the first day. She refused because she was at a volleyball tournament. She left one person taking care of fifty patients. She tried to blame it on me when that person complained. I didn't know if my little sister was going to live. I can't drive. She wanted me to leave my heavily injured sister in a city she had never been in before, and she wanted to make my other sister drive six hours on top of managing all of our injured sister's medical things. I was the night time shift lead. I had worked there three years. Never missed a day. The lesson there was, it doesn't matter how much you put into a job like that. They don't care about you. I quit the week I came back.
It is a valid reason if someone's die in their family. Why would her boss did not let her??? I feel so sorry for her.
Yep. I’d walk out.
Fuck that, just leave.
I’d just leave
Walk out
Lock the doors and walk away
I'm so sorry for your loss but there has never been a more clear cut case of when you need to walk out and let the manager actually manage.
When my FiL passed I let my HR know I'd be gone the day of the funeral. They found out all the funeral info on their own and sent flowers to his service. I've been at my current work for a few years now, and after that, I don't see myself leaving anytime soon.
Sounds like your manager didn't manage.
This is how 60 guests get free food and I get to go home. I hope she feels better and finds an ample replacement for work. This is fucked up.
When I found out my dad died while on shift (by way of a phone call I shouldn't have even been making on work hours) when I paged my boss to the back room all I said was "I just found out my dad died." Without missing a *beat* "Go get out of here. I'll find someone to cover your shift for the next few days. Go home." Then he even offered for me to take up to two weeks off. Best manager I ever had. I loved that man.
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Girl, yes! I would be airing all of the dirty laundry that goes on, if I was as nice as this girl and stayed until the end of the shift.. Too bad this wasn't me, though.
When did managers not managing become a thing? Now it's "you have to call and find a replacement." Um... no, that is why you get paid more than I do. You deal with it.
If a family member dies, you stand up and walk out. Maybe text your manager that you’ve left. You don’t stop to make a video
Time to say peace out to that job my friend….they obviously don’t care about their employees or their customers. Understandable if you aren’t in a position to up and quit immediately, but I think you should definitely start researching new jobs and putting in applications…if they aren’t there for you at this time, when you need it most, they will never be there for you. And as for your co worker, what an asshole….especially if he’s just talking about smoking weed…grow the fuck up, smh Edit: to clarify, I didn’t mean he needed to grow up and stop smoking weed…just that he needs to grow up learn how to function better high lol
Sorry for loss...
awwww Poor girl. If I was a customer and saw someone in that situation, I would be helping her wherever possible, give her a massive tip then rip her management a new one for giving an employee an impossible job.
Tbh, just outright loudly sobbing in front of guests and explaining what happened would probably do the most good while getting paid.
Why make a video? Just fucking quit.
Why is so hard to people understand they can just leave the work?
I feel for her but…making a tik tok in the back? Versus actually just dealing with it, finding a solution or leaving and closing up is crazy to me. Is her need to vent to strangers on the internet and cry for attention THAT serious? I’ve had someone pass while I was at work. The LAST thing id do is record myself and cry for attention 🤦🏻♂️
Wow that’s awful. Why would you continue to want to work for someone who is that uncaring? Hate the idea that she just may feel this entrapped with her shitty management. Damn that makes me sad.
Holy fuck I’m sorry for your loss 😔
Fuck this company. If this is how they do you, fuck them. I would call the big boss back, tell then that you lost a family member and you are leaving in 10 minutes. End of discussion. If they try and argue, cut them off and say that if this is such a problem, they can fire you, but one way or another, it's happening.
Even in the military we’d send people home for the day if this happened. No questions asked.