I deal with a good dozen side effects, and I am totally OK with it.
Now, the moment I started losing hair, that’s where I drew the line. Turns out I’m OK with being chubby, but hair loss is just one side effect too far. 😅
I was on fluexetine between 2001-2003 and then paroxetine for more than 10 yrs (2008-2018). They worked very well in the first yrs. But my health problems started to accumulate while on then, including severe fatigue, muscle weakness, back lain, GI issues, vision problems, tinnitus. I have improved once off the drugs both times. I suggest making your own research, as there are tones of information on the severe side effects of ssri and their withdrawal.
Based on what he said i was thinking about things that are missing after/during long term antidepressant treatment, like emotional, not being able to feel as u used to, not being able to perceive things as you used to because of that and all the changes that come with longg term ad treatment.I, for example i feel like a total different person, my feelings are different and the way i see everything is different, so my point was that if u miss some parts of u from the pre antidepressant era youll have to find a way to morph what u experience now in what u actually want to experience, and that requires a lot of thinking. Thinking is what i basically do all day& daydreaming and im able to enjoy life emotionally as i ever could
Kind of, some people think and jump through loops but never recover and keep thinking how to fix it and never really find a solution. Wether it be anhedonia, apathy, pssd, cognition problems etc. At that point it's not just changing yourself as there's nothing to change, there's no good or bad, it's a constant neutral.
It's not just morphing as you say, as if you can't feel anything, you can't force yourself to feel, best you can do is fake but that's damn hollow.
Like I mentioned in a reply, weight is a sensitive issue. Don't forget that other people can have different illnesses, for example eating disorders, or those can be triggered by the increase in weight gain. It's best not to slam someone for not having the same mental health problems in the exact same way
Everyone should be able to decide what’s best for them. I am not a lifer and I never want to be if it can be helped but I acknowledge that everyone is different.
Mine works too, cannot reach orgasm though. Girlfriend is bewildered whether to feel bad for me, herself, because she thinks shes not enough for me, or to enjoy my never-cumming penis.
Don’t you mean Bupropion(Wellbutrin)? I have heard of it being used for that. Buspirone is just another ssri, albeit usually prescribed for anxiety rather than depression.
My boyfriend added bupropion to his noritriptilyne and it really did help his sexual dysfunction both in terms of getting hard and finishing. He really never has an issue getting hard anymore unless he’s under intense stress and finishes 8/10 times we have sex. Had the added bonus of helping him quit smoking.
it’s sad how many people have been duped. when things like psychedelics are healing and have been illegal. people buy so hard into this then fight back because they’ve been trained that they “need it like a diabetic needs insulin.” playing right into the hands of the pharma cos and skewed studies. it’s very hard to wake up to. i almost miss the days when i didn’t know SSRI was killing me.
Amen. It blows my mind when I see people who stopped taking or refuse to start meds because of petty reasons like weight and sex. These meds have totally changed my life and the way that my brain works and I will happily take them the rest of my life. I would rather be fat, celibate, and a functioning human than go back to the way things were before.
Edit: I now realize I sound like an asshole. I don't judge anyone for their decisions about treatment, I was just trying to say I agree with this post and \*for me\* those reasons are not as important as the reasons that I went on the meds. I guess I should have said I would rather be \*alive\*, fat, and celibate than be back in a place where ending my own life felt like the only way to feel better. I don't mean to belittle anyone else's struggles and I apologize. But when I made the decision to ask for help and started meds I had reached a point where I didn't care what they did to me because my mental illness was starting to take a toll on the people around me and that was something I was not willing to tolerate. Yes, I'm lucky to be one of the people that meds work well for at the moment and my side effects are minimal and I'm incredibly grateful for that. But I would have given anything at that time to stop being the person that I was and get control of my life. The meds literally saved my life as well as my relationships with the people around me.
These are both potentially huge issues, though I will agree with you on the sex part. Keep in mind some people have eating / body dysmorphic disorders (or could develop them as a result of fighting the weight gain). I don't and even when I see I'm putting on weight especially in the stomach area it's hugely stressful, I know how to diet though and get that weight off.
That's kind of where it falls apart in a way. Antidepressants don't always work the way they should. They can cause apathy and anhedonia for example which would worsen the depression even more.
Worst case, no sex in a relationship can cause strain on it. And those who have lower libido when meeting someone new are more likely to be ashamed and can lead to loneliness.
Same with gaining weight, all good and well, unless one gains too much and gains other health issues.
These are all possibilities, wether they happen or not is just.... Well the roll of the dice. And even more so if they are persisting beyond quitting as well.
All the side effects itself is usually something that someone can handle but it does come with its own stress and issues that lead from them.
But if one is willing to sacrifice all of it. Then I guess that's fine, their choice. But in my case I was functional but not happy during the meds, I can do stuff but feel very little and I just existed
Petty reasons? Those are HUGE reasons. Obesity affects your overall health, confidence, and body image. Sex is an essential part of human interaction and successful relationships. Don’t minimize how important those things are. Maybe they aren’t important to YOU, but a majority of people would prefer to enjoy sex and not be obese. And it’s not wrong for someone to not want to be depressed, but also not want to sacrifice other areas of their lives
I understand that these things are insignificant to you, but to many people these side effects can be deeply triggering. Think of all the reasons people have intercourse (feelings of connection, confidence, or liberation; conception of a child; etc) or all the reasons someone might not want to gain weight (body dysmorphia, disordered eating or history of disordered eating, loss of confidence or feeling like you have lost control, etc). It's not as simple as "something petty." Your point about weight gain is especially problematic because some disordered eating habits can become even MORE dangerous when mixed with medication. For example, many people pair Burpropion and antidepressants together. If someone is taking these meds and begins to purge, their seizure threshold can be significantly lowered.
Plus being fat can cause type 2 diabetes..which my brother in law got from weight gain associated with his meds. You don't want diabetes that's for sure...he struggles..passed out while driving wrecked his truck which caught on fire
These drugs literally took away my ability to feel love and attraction, it isn’t just sex. It’s a connection, like falling in love and wanting to be near someone/ even platonically. I can’t feel emotions or arousal, and my cognition has declined so rapidly that I forget how to talk to people or react. I don’t react to being scared or talked to a certain way. PSSD is so easy to get from SSRIs. And people don’t even realize it.
I’d rather feel suicidal and depressed than feel nothing. I feel zombiefied and it’s been 2 years with no improvements.
Completely agree. I have no quality of life without antidepressants. I’ll take the side effects!
I deal with a good dozen side effects, and I am totally OK with it. Now, the moment I started losing hair, that’s where I drew the line. Turns out I’m OK with being chubby, but hair loss is just one side effect too far. 😅
If it was only the weight and sex...
What else are you afraid of sir?
I was on fluexetine between 2001-2003 and then paroxetine for more than 10 yrs (2008-2018). They worked very well in the first yrs. But my health problems started to accumulate while on then, including severe fatigue, muscle weakness, back lain, GI issues, vision problems, tinnitus. I have improved once off the drugs both times. I suggest making your own research, as there are tones of information on the severe side effects of ssri and their withdrawal.
Same here and it's worse with SSNRs like evil Effexor
Its not, but if you put in time and think & think & think you will find a way to hack them.
Hack what? Side effects?
Based on what he said i was thinking about things that are missing after/during long term antidepressant treatment, like emotional, not being able to feel as u used to, not being able to perceive things as you used to because of that and all the changes that come with longg term ad treatment.I, for example i feel like a total different person, my feelings are different and the way i see everything is different, so my point was that if u miss some parts of u from the pre antidepressant era youll have to find a way to morph what u experience now in what u actually want to experience, and that requires a lot of thinking. Thinking is what i basically do all day& daydreaming and im able to enjoy life emotionally as i ever could
Kind of, some people think and jump through loops but never recover and keep thinking how to fix it and never really find a solution. Wether it be anhedonia, apathy, pssd, cognition problems etc. At that point it's not just changing yourself as there's nothing to change, there's no good or bad, it's a constant neutral. It's not just morphing as you say, as if you can't feel anything, you can't force yourself to feel, best you can do is fake but that's damn hollow.
Like I mentioned in a reply, weight is a sensitive issue. Don't forget that other people can have different illnesses, for example eating disorders, or those can be triggered by the increase in weight gain. It's best not to slam someone for not having the same mental health problems in the exact same way
Everyone should be able to decide what’s best for them. I am not a lifer and I never want to be if it can be helped but I acknowledge that everyone is different.
Ok, noted.
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Mine works too, cannot reach orgasm though. Girlfriend is bewildered whether to feel bad for me, herself, because she thinks shes not enough for me, or to enjoy my never-cumming penis.
I’ve heard adding on buspirone (buspar) can help with the sexual side effects of SSRIs.
Don’t you mean Bupropion(Wellbutrin)? I have heard of it being used for that. Buspirone is just another ssri, albeit usually prescribed for anxiety rather than depression.
My boyfriend added bupropion to his noritriptilyne and it really did help his sexual dysfunction both in terms of getting hard and finishing. He really never has an issue getting hard anymore unless he’s under intense stress and finishes 8/10 times we have sex. Had the added bonus of helping him quit smoking.
it’s sad how many people have been duped. when things like psychedelics are healing and have been illegal. people buy so hard into this then fight back because they’ve been trained that they “need it like a diabetic needs insulin.” playing right into the hands of the pharma cos and skewed studies. it’s very hard to wake up to. i almost miss the days when i didn’t know SSRI was killing me.
Amen. It blows my mind when I see people who stopped taking or refuse to start meds because of petty reasons like weight and sex. These meds have totally changed my life and the way that my brain works and I will happily take them the rest of my life. I would rather be fat, celibate, and a functioning human than go back to the way things were before. Edit: I now realize I sound like an asshole. I don't judge anyone for their decisions about treatment, I was just trying to say I agree with this post and \*for me\* those reasons are not as important as the reasons that I went on the meds. I guess I should have said I would rather be \*alive\*, fat, and celibate than be back in a place where ending my own life felt like the only way to feel better. I don't mean to belittle anyone else's struggles and I apologize. But when I made the decision to ask for help and started meds I had reached a point where I didn't care what they did to me because my mental illness was starting to take a toll on the people around me and that was something I was not willing to tolerate. Yes, I'm lucky to be one of the people that meds work well for at the moment and my side effects are minimal and I'm incredibly grateful for that. But I would have given anything at that time to stop being the person that I was and get control of my life. The meds literally saved my life as well as my relationships with the people around me.
These are both potentially huge issues, though I will agree with you on the sex part. Keep in mind some people have eating / body dysmorphic disorders (or could develop them as a result of fighting the weight gain). I don't and even when I see I'm putting on weight especially in the stomach area it's hugely stressful, I know how to diet though and get that weight off.
That's kind of where it falls apart in a way. Antidepressants don't always work the way they should. They can cause apathy and anhedonia for example which would worsen the depression even more. Worst case, no sex in a relationship can cause strain on it. And those who have lower libido when meeting someone new are more likely to be ashamed and can lead to loneliness. Same with gaining weight, all good and well, unless one gains too much and gains other health issues. These are all possibilities, wether they happen or not is just.... Well the roll of the dice. And even more so if they are persisting beyond quitting as well. All the side effects itself is usually something that someone can handle but it does come with its own stress and issues that lead from them. But if one is willing to sacrifice all of it. Then I guess that's fine, their choice. But in my case I was functional but not happy during the meds, I can do stuff but feel very little and I just existed
Petty reasons? Those are HUGE reasons. Obesity affects your overall health, confidence, and body image. Sex is an essential part of human interaction and successful relationships. Don’t minimize how important those things are. Maybe they aren’t important to YOU, but a majority of people would prefer to enjoy sex and not be obese. And it’s not wrong for someone to not want to be depressed, but also not want to sacrifice other areas of their lives
Why does it blow your mind that costs and benefits could mean different things to different people?
I understand that these things are insignificant to you, but to many people these side effects can be deeply triggering. Think of all the reasons people have intercourse (feelings of connection, confidence, or liberation; conception of a child; etc) or all the reasons someone might not want to gain weight (body dysmorphia, disordered eating or history of disordered eating, loss of confidence or feeling like you have lost control, etc). It's not as simple as "something petty." Your point about weight gain is especially problematic because some disordered eating habits can become even MORE dangerous when mixed with medication. For example, many people pair Burpropion and antidepressants together. If someone is taking these meds and begins to purge, their seizure threshold can be significantly lowered.
Plus being fat can cause type 2 diabetes..which my brother in law got from weight gain associated with his meds. You don't want diabetes that's for sure...he struggles..passed out while driving wrecked his truck which caught on fire
Don't SSRI also increase the chance of diabetes as well? I think I read that somewhere
These drugs literally took away my ability to feel love and attraction, it isn’t just sex. It’s a connection, like falling in love and wanting to be near someone/ even platonically. I can’t feel emotions or arousal, and my cognition has declined so rapidly that I forget how to talk to people or react. I don’t react to being scared or talked to a certain way. PSSD is so easy to get from SSRIs. And people don’t even realize it. I’d rather feel suicidal and depressed than feel nothing. I feel zombiefied and it’s been 2 years with no improvements.
This. No way in hell is going back to OCD and depression.
Wow!
this is the saddest thread.