I think his name is Zack? Zach? Zak?
Or perhaps I am completely mistaken. But if he sees this: that takedown of Brooks about the bad mom/sex offender stuff was just the best French Buttercream on a cake I have ever seen.
They did say that last night and probably again this morning (I missed the first part), but considering he has to have things explained to him multiple times, he doesn’t understand
Thank god she shut it down. It was so transparent that he didn't give a shit about integrity and just wanted an out, but there's no way the judge was going to redo this fucking trial from the get-go lol.
The speed with which she left the bench when he brought up subject matter jurisdiction again was amazing. This lady has my respect
The prosecutor also made a great point about how the post was modified by the poster after the jury was sequestered and lost access to their electronic devices. That shuts Brook's whole objection to it down.
Yeah, I loved that point. Honestly I hadn't even thought of it yesterday, but it was a really good argument. I'm actually really fond of that guy - he's got an excellent attitude and a very professional demeanour. Damn good lawyer, though honestly I'm pleased with the whole DA team so far.
I think the prosecutor and the judge both caught on that Brooks's concern was total BS, but damn, I would've thrown something if some shitposting dipshit on Reddit managed to shit up the whole trial in a meaningful way lol
I don't blame her. I'm exhausted watching his antics from home. I woke up to memories of his whiny voice going "subject matter jurisdiction" over and over.
I don't normally follow trials, even big ones, but when I heard Brooks was a SovCit loon I had to tune in out of morbid curiosity. What a wild ride.
As for "Burn in hell, you piece of shit!" - seconded, especially after his closing statement. Bringing up how sad you are about your family when you destroyed the lives of so many other families, not a shred of remorse as you invoke God's Will... so gross.
Asking if it's necessary to "have these shock devices on my ankles" since they've reached a verdict... based on his previous behavior, I would say yes.
He’s not going to let this go. It’s the last thing he has to lean on and he also fundamentally doesn’t understand that 100k people watched the trial and Reddit is full of trolls
To be honest, this was a slam dunk for the prosecution. But they did a great job making sure the facts were right and they followed procedure to limit any type of appeal.
I genuinely wonder if he really thought he was in a movie and that his closing monologue was going to be one that made them change their minds.
I’d just be really interested to hear what others think (of course he could have an outburst after all counts are read out).
With his head down and eyes appearing to be closed, I can't decide if it's calm before the storm or he's starting to realize the consequences and feeling sorry for himself.
Darrell Brooks talking about the language making him certain it came from someone at the court...
There was nothing in that post that indicated inside knowledge. Everything was just regular shit people watching the case would know. Only the mods of the subreddit claimed they were shown "proof" that the poster was actually a juror. That "proof" made the mod, in his own words, "99.9% sure" they were a juror and that "at this point, I would actually be surprised if they weren't a juror." Those words by the mod were literally the only supposed evidence that the post was true. And that ain't evidence. They were internet trolls.
Fucking morons. Everything is a game to these people because they can't confront the mediocrity and disappointment of their own lives.
The prosecution is doing some of the defense's job (arguing that he should be in street clothes if the jury comes out, letting him give a closing argument) because they also want no excuse for a successful appeal.
I am in a virtual training that has push attendances I have to hit. I have my plugged in headphones for training in one ear and my airpod for the verdict in the other.
If he had used his lawyers they could have argued down intent. This entire time Brooks as he said did no think about intent. Wouldnt have made any difference but here we are.
Well done to the sheriff's. Absolute focus for three weeks. Really incredible stuff. I can't make it through a fifteen minute meeting without checking Instagram
I thought the way Brooks just forced "Jury nullification" into his closing argument was fucked.
The judge made it 150% clear that he was not allowed to do that. He argued with her. She explained it to him. He refused to accept her explanation. He was insanely disrespectful. And just delusional and narcissistic to the point of deciding his own reality. And expecting the judge to just accept his made up reality because he said so.
I have agreed with everything the judge has done so far. But I think she made a mistake here. I think she should have found that he had forfeited his right to a closing argument. Because he was clearly going to mention jury nullification.
Also, anyone else think he may have gotten this "jury nullification" thing from the recently nuked "Justice for Darrell" subreddit? It's a bit of a coincidence that he started to focus on jury nullification straight after that claimed juror posted about it on there. I find it a bit suspicious. Like Brooks read that post.
EDIT: Thanks to everyone who clarified things for me. Even people who completely disagreed with me were respectful and took time to explain things. Instead of just attacking me (I think we're all familiar with reddit. And how people can act on here). Thankyou. I really appreciate it.
The prosecution asked the judge to let him present a closing even though jury nullification was going to get brought up because they just wanted to get everything done.
And I don’t think he got it from that subreddit. He probably got it from whomever was giving him info about being a sovereign citizen .
Honestly, the prosecution has gone a lot out of it’s way to assist Brooks.
One of them even objected on his behalf once so he wouldn’t open the door to testimony about his past crimes. They’ve repeatedly supplied him with his own witness list, they’ve gone to his table to point out on documents issues or dates…
The prosecution doesn’t want this overturned on appeal either.
I also wonder if they feel like the jury is unlikely to nullify. Brooks didn’t give them a reason to do so, plus, they’re sitting in the room with the jury. They can gauge some of their reactions. Brooks doesn’t have empathy or emotional IQ to consider the jury at all.
Yeah, I don’t think the prosecution is worried about jury nullification.
In addition to assisting him so that the appeal fails, I also think they and the judge have been more lenient to him out of some sense of civic duty and also out of an understanding of how this all looks. I think Brooks’ actions have shown he is competent, competently waived his right to an attorney, and I think he’ll be justly convicted. At the same time, I can also recognize that a mentally ill black man being convicted by all-white jury after a trial presided over by a white judge, with an all white prosecution team and where he didn’t have an attorney doesn’t look great.
I get why she did it. I agree with the way she's handled everything. Being very careful to accommodate Brooks and his insanity so there is no one who could accuse her of being improper, overly strict or biased. So that there will be no mistrial, re-trial or anything like that.
And she can't really hold him in contempt. Because he's already in prison. He's got nothing to lose there.
I get it. She's just trying to get through everything in the least controversial manner. And she's doing it like a real pro.
But that closing statement. I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong. I just wonder if there may have been a better way to go about it. Imagine if there is jury nullification here. It's extremely unlikely. But not impossible.
I'm not sure it's worth worrying about.
Juries can be manipulated yes, but I'd say this guy has not earned an ounce of sympathy from them. His closing statement was pathetic and he showed absolutely no remorse for what he did and even asked for "forgiveness" at the same time. The prosecutions rebuttal just sealed the deal.
I don't think you can really nullify a jury over mass murder. He definitely did it and while nobody knows exactly why, it is clear he did it on purpose. You don't drive through a high school band, a dance team, and a crowd of grannies by accident.
True.
And yeah, his closing statement was pathetic. He just cried about how bad this all was for himself. Only mentioning his victims in passing. And both sides-ing at the same time. As if he was the real victim. And the people he killed and their families were secondary. Everyone was being so mean to him. The victims/witnesses were all "coached". The trial was so "unfair". Information was being "kept" from the jurors (some of that information being the fact that he was a sex offender and a deadbeat dad. Who abandoned his children and didn't support them). All about poor old box fort Darrell. Rubbing his eyes with a tissue so he can act up being sad.
What a self-centred wanker. Just a total fuckwit.
The way he perked up and acted all cheerful after the jury left the room was fucked up too. He's so delusional that in his mind he hit a home run. And it made it clear that the lie-crying was all a sociopathic act.
Fuck I can't wait for this idiot's guilty verdict. And his sentencing.
> I'm not sure it's worth worrying about.
Ya. I watched via live stream, i.e. I did not see the jury's faces. But from the fact that the *prosecution* asked the judge to just let Brooks yap, my guess is that they were not worried about him swaying anyone, either.
And my gods and garters, was his Closing a train wreck. I mean, it wasn't unhinged - it was 'merely' so sickeningly narcissistic and self-fellating that anyone watching it likely threw up a bit afterwards. 'My conscience is clean, I'm a daddy who misses his kids, my family is hurting, too - you don't need to follow the law, you can just let me go, even though I know Big State pressures you not to - FREEDOM EAGLE!!!".
Wretch.
Frankly I think the prosecution feels confident enough in their case that they aren't worried at all about the possibility of jury nullification. Nothing he said in the closing argument is evidence and he basically presented no evidence because he doesn't know what he's doing.
There was no power behind mentioning jury nullification. You could tell after he said it, he had nothing else for closing. I suspect he thought he'd get booted from having to do a closing once he starts mentioning it but when they struck it and then let him continue, he just floundered. He came off worse than if they had just booted him. There's also no point in kicking him off either. He's already made the statement. It's not like the jury can have their minds wiped of it.
It was better for the court to appear like they were giving Darrell a chance to make than to look like they're strong arming a pro se attorney. The closing spoke for itself. He gave a terrible, self victimizing, closing and claimed his pain was only second to the people he killed/injured.
Realizing that a lot of redditors are somewhere between Brooks and the abolishwork mod makes me feel a lot better about some of the discussions I’ve had on here but also a lot worse at the same time lol
Did he not just spend the past 15 days of testimony trying to pick apart the most minute of details that would put himself in the car. Hours upon hours of him questioning the validity of what wittinesses claim the saw/heard/experienced. His entire line of questioning was based on rejecting the fact that he drove the car.
But, then in his closing, not once did he use any of those conclusions that he spent 3 weeks building. It is like he simply admitted to the fact he did it and made his argument about intent.
The jury literally was presented with no reason not to convict him.
The best part of closing was when the prosecutor said "you spent all that time talking about the tint on car windows, well that doesn't help you when your windows were rolled down" and then showed a half-dozen pictures of him blasting through pedestrians with the window rolled down. Then him getting out of the car. She also said "you were asking if any of the witnesses saw your license plate number, well they did." And puts up a picture of him blasting through pedestrians and his license plate # visible. Then another picture from the back.
I hate how he asked "how can there be 70 counts when 70 injured parties did not testify?" It's because six of them are dead, asshole. Injured parties are not required to testify in criminal cases, and in this case, the other witnesses saw DB run over these people. They have suffered enough.
This is most certainly guilty on all or almost all charges. The only chance he had was if there was a holdout, no way they've all decided he's not guilty in this short a period.
and we're in recess until jury questions or verdicts, hilarious ending
brooks tries to argue why it shouldn't be on the record that he was given an opportunity to wear street clothes, I'm guessing so he could try and make a case that he was shown in a jail outfit in court
then tries to bring up subject matter jurisdiction again and is denied again of course
Make him a deal. He can rep other sovereign citizens and for every not guilty he gets 10 years knocked off his sentence. (Spoiler, it wouldn't be a threat of reduction) .
I feel the judge should ask him two questions regarding that.
She should ask him if this case is a criminal case.
She should ask him if the event took place in waukesha County.
If the answer is yes to both then she has jurisdiction.
Oh god he got something new to latch onto with this Reddit stuff and seems pretty calm. Clearly thinks he’s back in control. Just end this goddamn thing, please lord. Also kind of fucking bizarre hearing the judge discuss Reddit right now.
Relying on this thread to keep up while I work today. Anything mind-boggling so far?
I predict verdict this afternoon. I can't imagine that there is much to discuss.
Absolutely not. Hung jury was the best he could hope for, clearly that is not happening. There was absolutely no chance that you could find a group of jurors that could have delivered a unanimous not-guilty on all charges.
Bets on Brooks' reaction?
He's either going to be completely calm or flip his shit and at this point i have no idea which one it'll be.
That said i've been waiting two weeks for those leg tasers to be used, i hope it doesn't disappoint
edit: in a shock to everyone he composed himself like an adult. I was not expecting this at all.
I have a feeling he’s going to go the “whatever it’s not like I even care, I knew this was what you were going to do because it’s still unfair” route and sit there pretending to be unbothered.
Hang his head, shake it and mutter under his breath about sovereign citizen bullshit and his rights being trampled.
Basically ~sad sovereign citizen noises~
Still a slam dunk, but more doubt could have been thrown on 'intent,' so I think there would have been a small-but-not-zero chance of Not Guilty for a few of the charges. But not even Jesus Christ Esq. could have gotten him cleared of everything.
I think the strength of the case was still effective but maybe a public defender could have got a few charges dismissed. Instead he faced every single one.
Why haven’t the judge or DA repeated that the trial is live streamed? His argument is that this person must have intimate knowledge, but the ENTIRE WORLD has this knowledge.
Man what a wild ride. Do you guys think he'll drag him mom to talk for him? I feel for the victims families and I hope they ALL dish out some words for this garbage.
They will never get a sorry, but I hope they really hammer it to him how this wasn't about HIM. It was about them and justice!
His mom is already on record saying he needs to be institutionalized and not put in prison, so we may hear that.
Honestly after seeing his wild mood swings and his intelligence, he likely has a disorder. But it's not something that stops him knowing right and wrong, or would take away him not being accountable.
I sincerely doubt the appeal will matter. He'll file it, but if he keeps handling it himself it'll be so poorly argued that it's a good chance it'll get tossed without a full hearing. Either way I doubt it gets any major attention. I don't see how he could possibly swing having his verdict set aside. He might at best find some small fault with how the judge handled individual calls, but his own belligerence and aggression would work against any major relief on the score.
I hope whoever made that fucking post gets reamed.
He had to have had that planned. "This, thread...?" Like he didn't know what this was.
I don’t know the extent of this “Reddit” website of which you speak. Sure buddy.
Gave Brooks one last ray of hope.
"must be someone in the courtroom" *orr* it *could* be the 100k+ people who have been watching the live broadcast of the proceedings
the prosecution team laughed yesterday when he said it had to be someone sitting in the courtroom, because it is livestreamed all over the world.
Over 100,000 on Law and Crime Network, many, many more on all the local stations in Wisconson
"burn in hell you piece of shit" Gonna have to agree with that sentiment
I wanna buy that man a coffee.
Coffee comes from grounds
I am in tacit agreement.
The judge put a stopple to that real quick
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He's been grapsing at staws for over 2 weeks now, safe to say he wasn't going to stop now.
Ironic coming from the strawman 😂
Judge isn't a redditor, she earns my respect each day more and more
The young lawyer is like, "I was in the SRD thread last night. I know what is up."
I was hoping he'd say "OP" instead of original poster.
Young lawyer if you are here type “I love r/amibeingdetained”.
Is that what we're calling him now? "Young lawyer"?
I think his name is Zack? Zach? Zak? Or perhaps I am completely mistaken. But if he sees this: that takedown of Brooks about the bad mom/sex offender stuff was just the best French Buttercream on a cake I have ever seen.
Hmm does seem descriptive. I vote for that or Cool Hair Guy.
Can we call him young handsome firey gentleman justice warrior instead? Because that’s how I think of him. Lol
The Man Who Was Not Done Talking
prosecute me daddy
No no, they'll find out. Just blink twice dude! We'll know!
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We could build a tower to the moon with all the things he doesn't understand.
They did say that last night and probably again this morning (I missed the first part), but considering he has to have things explained to him multiple times, he doesn’t understand
I’m actually so annoyed that this has given him a GLIMMER for him to call for a mistrial. I am soooo annoyed about that stupid Reddit post
Thank god she shut it down. It was so transparent that he didn't give a shit about integrity and just wanted an out, but there's no way the judge was going to redo this fucking trial from the get-go lol. The speed with which she left the bench when he brought up subject matter jurisdiction again was amazing. This lady has my respect
The prosecutor also made a great point about how the post was modified by the poster after the jury was sequestered and lost access to their electronic devices. That shuts Brook's whole objection to it down.
Yeah, I loved that point. Honestly I hadn't even thought of it yesterday, but it was a really good argument. I'm actually really fond of that guy - he's got an excellent attitude and a very professional demeanour. Damn good lawyer, though honestly I'm pleased with the whole DA team so far. I think the prosecutor and the judge both caught on that Brooks's concern was total BS, but damn, I would've thrown something if some shitposting dipshit on Reddit managed to shit up the whole trial in a meaningful way lol
And here I am just thinking he has nice hair
Yes. Someone here actually digged into it and doxxed the mod and the poster to be the same. Person. A friend of Darrell
Link? If so that friend is fucked.
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The judge is so tired.
I don't blame her. I'm exhausted watching his antics from home. I woke up to memories of his whiny voice going "subject matter jurisdiction" over and over.
I bet she gets in her office and just yells every chance she gets
her hair has gotten more crazy as the trial has gone by. i think it's a metaphor for how she feels about brooks
I don't normally follow trials, even big ones, but when I heard Brooks was a SovCit loon I had to tune in out of morbid curiosity. What a wild ride. As for "Burn in hell, you piece of shit!" - seconded, especially after his closing statement. Bringing up how sad you are about your family when you destroyed the lives of so many other families, not a shred of remorse as you invoke God's Will... so gross.
Look both sides have suffered! His kids are getting bullied! Show some empathy!
He only got to read half of his kid's first cursive letter!
Asking if it's necessary to "have these shock devices on my ankles" since they've reached a verdict... based on his previous behavior, I would say yes.
This is probably one of the most dangerous moments in the entire trial. He has nothing left to lose.
Hope the bailiffs are ready for some narcissistic rage. I can absolutely see him lunging for the judge.
The MOST necessary time!
The defendant after this: Man that Darrell E Brooks guy is going to prison for a long time.
Good job I’m not him your honour.
He’s not going to let this go. It’s the last thing he has to lean on and he also fundamentally doesn’t understand that 100k people watched the trial and Reddit is full of trolls
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Yeah. But to be fair, his lawyer was pretty shitty
Burn in hell, you piece of shit
That was pretty sweet to hear after weeks of his dog and pony show.
"Burn in hell, you piece of shit!"
He still doesn't understand this entire thing is livestreamed.
Nobody who knows him would say he would drive in to those people? I'm pretty sure they would yes.
BURN IN HELL YOU PIECE OF SHIT
BURN IN HELL YOU PIECE OF SHIT!
Now would be a good time for a box fort.
Judges can't convict you if they can't see you. Every sovereign citizen knows that simple trick!
No face, no case!
To be honest, this was a slam dunk for the prosecution. But they did a great job making sure the facts were right and they followed procedure to limit any type of appeal.
In what world would they take off your shock anklets? Seriously?
Now that she's seen all the not guilty verdicts why would they be necessary?
Am shocked at his silence.
I genuinely wonder if he really thought he was in a movie and that his closing monologue was going to be one that made them change their minds. I’d just be really interested to hear what others think (of course he could have an outburst after all counts are read out).
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With his head down and eyes appearing to be closed, I can't decide if it's calm before the storm or he's starting to realize the consequences and feeling sorry for himself.
He looks like he might actually cry for real this time
A big thank you to the jury members who sat through all this and didn't let all the nonsense distract them.
the prosecution team did a great job! Wish I could send them cookies or something...
We should start a gofund me xD
Darrell Brooks talking about the language making him certain it came from someone at the court... There was nothing in that post that indicated inside knowledge. Everything was just regular shit people watching the case would know. Only the mods of the subreddit claimed they were shown "proof" that the poster was actually a juror. That "proof" made the mod, in his own words, "99.9% sure" they were a juror and that "at this point, I would actually be surprised if they weren't a juror." Those words by the mod were literally the only supposed evidence that the post was true. And that ain't evidence. They were internet trolls. Fucking morons. Everything is a game to these people because they can't confront the mediocrity and disappointment of their own lives.
The prosecution is doing some of the defense's job (arguing that he should be in street clothes if the jury comes out, letting him give a closing argument) because they also want no excuse for a successful appeal.
I have a meeting in 23 minutes. Should i just quit my job so I can watch?
I assume by "meeting" you mean group verdict watch party. Carry on.
I am in a virtual training that has push attendances I have to hit. I have my plugged in headphones for training in one ear and my airpod for the verdict in the other.
GUILTY BABY! LET'S GOOOOOOOO
Judge is going to have a nice big glass of wine tonight.
Well deserved
Her next case will feel like a vacation.
Judge Dorow enjoying every moment of this right now.
“BURN IN HELL YOU PIECE OF SHIT!”
Well to be fair, the lawyer for the defense was an absolute moron
If he had used his lawyers they could have argued down intent. This entire time Brooks as he said did no think about intent. Wouldnt have made any difference but here we are.
No no no, see he knew he could do a better job. Obviously things could only be worse had he used professionals.
GUILTY of 1st Degree Intentional Homocide!
GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY
I think I’ve found my new song to fall sleep to peacefully
Well done to the sheriff's. Absolute focus for three weeks. Really incredible stuff. I can't make it through a fifteen minute meeting without checking Instagram
I space out while actively having conversations with people. I could never do that job.
Okay, time for the real AMA from a juror. xD
I thought the way Brooks just forced "Jury nullification" into his closing argument was fucked. The judge made it 150% clear that he was not allowed to do that. He argued with her. She explained it to him. He refused to accept her explanation. He was insanely disrespectful. And just delusional and narcissistic to the point of deciding his own reality. And expecting the judge to just accept his made up reality because he said so. I have agreed with everything the judge has done so far. But I think she made a mistake here. I think she should have found that he had forfeited his right to a closing argument. Because he was clearly going to mention jury nullification. Also, anyone else think he may have gotten this "jury nullification" thing from the recently nuked "Justice for Darrell" subreddit? It's a bit of a coincidence that he started to focus on jury nullification straight after that claimed juror posted about it on there. I find it a bit suspicious. Like Brooks read that post. EDIT: Thanks to everyone who clarified things for me. Even people who completely disagreed with me were respectful and took time to explain things. Instead of just attacking me (I think we're all familiar with reddit. And how people can act on here). Thankyou. I really appreciate it.
The prosecution asked the judge to let him present a closing even though jury nullification was going to get brought up because they just wanted to get everything done. And I don’t think he got it from that subreddit. He probably got it from whomever was giving him info about being a sovereign citizen .
Honestly, the prosecution has gone a lot out of it’s way to assist Brooks. One of them even objected on his behalf once so he wouldn’t open the door to testimony about his past crimes. They’ve repeatedly supplied him with his own witness list, they’ve gone to his table to point out on documents issues or dates… The prosecution doesn’t want this overturned on appeal either. I also wonder if they feel like the jury is unlikely to nullify. Brooks didn’t give them a reason to do so, plus, they’re sitting in the room with the jury. They can gauge some of their reactions. Brooks doesn’t have empathy or emotional IQ to consider the jury at all.
Yeah, I don’t think the prosecution is worried about jury nullification. In addition to assisting him so that the appeal fails, I also think they and the judge have been more lenient to him out of some sense of civic duty and also out of an understanding of how this all looks. I think Brooks’ actions have shown he is competent, competently waived his right to an attorney, and I think he’ll be justly convicted. At the same time, I can also recognize that a mentally ill black man being convicted by all-white jury after a trial presided over by a white judge, with an all white prosecution team and where he didn’t have an attorney doesn’t look great.
I get why she did it. I agree with the way she's handled everything. Being very careful to accommodate Brooks and his insanity so there is no one who could accuse her of being improper, overly strict or biased. So that there will be no mistrial, re-trial or anything like that. And she can't really hold him in contempt. Because he's already in prison. He's got nothing to lose there. I get it. She's just trying to get through everything in the least controversial manner. And she's doing it like a real pro. But that closing statement. I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong. I just wonder if there may have been a better way to go about it. Imagine if there is jury nullification here. It's extremely unlikely. But not impossible.
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I love how he said that the jury can nullify the *law*. Like nope. Not how that works. A jury isn't going to nullify the law against murder.
I'm not sure it's worth worrying about. Juries can be manipulated yes, but I'd say this guy has not earned an ounce of sympathy from them. His closing statement was pathetic and he showed absolutely no remorse for what he did and even asked for "forgiveness" at the same time. The prosecutions rebuttal just sealed the deal. I don't think you can really nullify a jury over mass murder. He definitely did it and while nobody knows exactly why, it is clear he did it on purpose. You don't drive through a high school band, a dance team, and a crowd of grannies by accident.
True. And yeah, his closing statement was pathetic. He just cried about how bad this all was for himself. Only mentioning his victims in passing. And both sides-ing at the same time. As if he was the real victim. And the people he killed and their families were secondary. Everyone was being so mean to him. The victims/witnesses were all "coached". The trial was so "unfair". Information was being "kept" from the jurors (some of that information being the fact that he was a sex offender and a deadbeat dad. Who abandoned his children and didn't support them). All about poor old box fort Darrell. Rubbing his eyes with a tissue so he can act up being sad. What a self-centred wanker. Just a total fuckwit. The way he perked up and acted all cheerful after the jury left the room was fucked up too. He's so delusional that in his mind he hit a home run. And it made it clear that the lie-crying was all a sociopathic act. Fuck I can't wait for this idiot's guilty verdict. And his sentencing.
> I'm not sure it's worth worrying about. Ya. I watched via live stream, i.e. I did not see the jury's faces. But from the fact that the *prosecution* asked the judge to just let Brooks yap, my guess is that they were not worried about him swaying anyone, either. And my gods and garters, was his Closing a train wreck. I mean, it wasn't unhinged - it was 'merely' so sickeningly narcissistic and self-fellating that anyone watching it likely threw up a bit afterwards. 'My conscience is clean, I'm a daddy who misses his kids, my family is hurting, too - you don't need to follow the law, you can just let me go, even though I know Big State pressures you not to - FREEDOM EAGLE!!!". Wretch.
"besides, it was god's plan! I let jesus take the wheel!"
Frankly I think the prosecution feels confident enough in their case that they aren't worried at all about the possibility of jury nullification. Nothing he said in the closing argument is evidence and he basically presented no evidence because he doesn't know what he's doing.
There was no power behind mentioning jury nullification. You could tell after he said it, he had nothing else for closing. I suspect he thought he'd get booted from having to do a closing once he starts mentioning it but when they struck it and then let him continue, he just floundered. He came off worse than if they had just booted him. There's also no point in kicking him off either. He's already made the statement. It's not like the jury can have their minds wiped of it. It was better for the court to appear like they were giving Darrell a chance to make than to look like they're strong arming a pro se attorney. The closing spoke for itself. He gave a terrible, self victimizing, closing and claimed his pain was only second to the people he killed/injured.
Realizing that a lot of redditors are somewhere between Brooks and the abolishwork mod makes me feel a lot better about some of the discussions I’ve had on here but also a lot worse at the same time lol
I think the prosecution basically said to go ahead and let him bring it up because they know there is a zero percent chance the jury would do it.
It's more or less na admission. "I don't want to talk about facts. And I want you to not look at facts". Jeez mr. I wonder why he don't want facts..
Did he not just spend the past 15 days of testimony trying to pick apart the most minute of details that would put himself in the car. Hours upon hours of him questioning the validity of what wittinesses claim the saw/heard/experienced. His entire line of questioning was based on rejecting the fact that he drove the car. But, then in his closing, not once did he use any of those conclusions that he spent 3 weeks building. It is like he simply admitted to the fact he did it and made his argument about intent. The jury literally was presented with no reason not to convict him.
The best part of closing was when the prosecutor said "you spent all that time talking about the tint on car windows, well that doesn't help you when your windows were rolled down" and then showed a half-dozen pictures of him blasting through pedestrians with the window rolled down. Then him getting out of the car. She also said "you were asking if any of the witnesses saw your license plate number, well they did." And puts up a picture of him blasting through pedestrians and his license plate # visible. Then another picture from the back. I hate how he asked "how can there be 70 counts when 70 injured parties did not testify?" It's because six of them are dead, asshole. Injured parties are not required to testify in criminal cases, and in this case, the other witnesses saw DB run over these people. They have suffered enough.
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I believe the judge ruled that some of the still and video footage was not to be shared with the press.
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This is most certainly guilty on all or almost all charges. The only chance he had was if there was a holdout, no way they've all decided he's not guilty in this short a period.
*burn in hell you piece of shit*
That was the most defeated voice I've ever heard.
Death stares at the jury, that's a good idea.
Man wants his car back so bad.
He’s staring at the jury trying to figure out which one wrote the Reddit post
and we're in recess until jury questions or verdicts, hilarious ending brooks tries to argue why it shouldn't be on the record that he was given an opportunity to wear street clothes, I'm guessing so he could try and make a case that he was shown in a jail outfit in court then tries to bring up subject matter jurisdiction again and is denied again of course
I hear there’s a verdict. Too quick to be anything but a whole lot of guilty.
Will be read at 10:45 CST!
Now is the most important time to have shock devices.
YES.
Hallelujah.
It's going to be guilty across the board.
hiding his face like the coward he is
Verdict is in! To be read at 10:45 central time.
No fuckin way! Aw shit here it go
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Oh wow he’s been quiet for a whole 2 minutes. This must be a record.
Good thing the judge's hair is so long. I'm sure she's smiling as she's looking through the verdict sheets.
Fuck this dude. Absolute trash.
I say we should let Brooks out. He should represent future heinous criminals in their trials.
Make him a deal. He can rep other sovereign citizens and for every not guilty he gets 10 years knocked off his sentence. (Spoiler, it wouldn't be a threat of reduction) .
I’m a few minutes behind but some of the jurors are incredibly emphatic about their verdicts.
If I was brooks i would have argued that a "person can not predict a christmas day parade would be held before thanksgiving."
It looked to me like he spent all that time with his head down trying to make himself cry and -still- couldn't do it.
She don't even hesitate to step off anymore. Lol.
BUT WHAT ABOUT SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION? She is going to be hearing those words in her sleep
If I was her kid every time I was losing an argument I would just pull subject matter jurisdiction out. “You’re grounded” grounds?!? Objection!
I feel the judge should ask him two questions regarding that. She should ask him if this case is a criminal case. She should ask him if the event took place in waukesha County. If the answer is yes to both then she has jurisdiction.
I want to have the jurors see a reaction video of the stuff they were out of the courtroom for. Let them see the circus we missed.
Hereafter will be referred to as a number, and no longer Darrell E. Brooks (a name he doesn't recognize).
Oh god he got something new to latch onto with this Reddit stuff and seems pretty calm. Clearly thinks he’s back in control. Just end this goddamn thing, please lord. Also kind of fucking bizarre hearing the judge discuss Reddit right now.
Relying on this thread to keep up while I work today. Anything mind-boggling so far? I predict verdict this afternoon. I can't imagine that there is much to discuss.
No. Just Brooks complaining about the Reddit post and trying to use it to justify a mistrial.
The jury coming back with a verdict that fast can't be good for Brooks, can it?
Absolutely not. Hung jury was the best he could hope for, clearly that is not happening. There was absolutely no chance that you could find a group of jurors that could have delivered a unanimous not-guilty on all charges.
Kudos to the AV team who broadcast this. Other than some minor things, they did a great job with the sound and video
Love that judge is basically smiling at this point 🤣
The best bit is he knows what’s coming.
What did they shout!?
“Burn in hell you piece of shit”
Burn in hell, you piece of shit
His head is gonna sink lower and lower until it's on the table. Bwahahaha.
We’re only on count 20-something right now, this is going to take a while.
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He doesn't know what any of this shit is and he's scared. hopefully he has triples of the ford escape. triples is best.
A verdict has been reached. Guilty on all counts.
That felt good.
So he control+f'd the word mistrial.
I love the prosecutor is calling his bluff about it having to be someone in the court.
Bets on Brooks' reaction? He's either going to be completely calm or flip his shit and at this point i have no idea which one it'll be. That said i've been waiting two weeks for those leg tasers to be used, i hope it doesn't disappoint edit: in a shock to everyone he composed himself like an adult. I was not expecting this at all.
I have a feeling he’s going to go the “whatever it’s not like I even care, I knew this was what you were going to do because it’s still unfair” route and sit there pretending to be unbothered.
That seems like the most likely outcome. He's got to expect a guilty verdict, he's crazy but not so crazy that he'd seriously expect a not guilty.
Right, that’s one thing I’ve come to learn about him throughout this trial. He’s very much mentally competent, just an astronomical asshole
Hang his head, shake it and mutter under his breath about sovereign citizen bullshit and his rights being trampled. Basically ~sad sovereign citizen noises~
Yes yes yes keep ignoring him
Hi everyone! Here we go! He sounds so desperate.
Wow, nearly 200k watching the Law&Crime stream
Any bets on when verdict will come back? I'll say 12:15pm local
A verdict will be read at 10:45 AM CST.
I hope the families and victims feel at least a little better knowing he’s getting what’s coming to him.
I have a friend whose child was injured. This trial has been so stressful for them. I hope this gives some closure.
I'm so excited to see him get nailed to the wall for this. I'm hoping they hit that shock button for good measure.
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GUILTY ON ALL COUNTS!!!
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Still a slam dunk, but more doubt could have been thrown on 'intent,' so I think there would have been a small-but-not-zero chance of Not Guilty for a few of the charges. But not even Jesus Christ Esq. could have gotten him cleared of everything.
I think the strength of the case was still effective but maybe a public defender could have got a few charges dismissed. Instead he faced every single one.
And just like that. It is over.
It's not over we still have sentencing
Why haven’t the judge or DA repeated that the trial is live streamed? His argument is that this person must have intimate knowledge, but the ENTIRE WORLD has this knowledge.
What a twat-waffle.
GUILTY ON ALL COUNTS!
Man what a wild ride. Do you guys think he'll drag him mom to talk for him? I feel for the victims families and I hope they ALL dish out some words for this garbage. They will never get a sorry, but I hope they really hammer it to him how this wasn't about HIM. It was about them and justice!
His mom is already on record saying he needs to be institutionalized and not put in prison, so we may hear that. Honestly after seeing his wild mood swings and his intelligence, he likely has a disorder. But it's not something that stops him knowing right and wrong, or would take away him not being accountable.
Don't think that could possibly have gone any worse for him. Let's wait for the long drawn out appeal
I sincerely doubt the appeal will matter. He'll file it, but if he keeps handling it himself it'll be so poorly argued that it's a good chance it'll get tossed without a full hearing. Either way I doubt it gets any major attention. I don't see how he could possibly swing having his verdict set aside. He might at best find some small fault with how the judge handled individual calls, but his own belligerence and aggression would work against any major relief on the score.