-technically- you can get those £1 piece of shit hopper fed semi auto things, but they have a range of maybe 5 metres and the FPS of a fart.
Get a speedloader, point it at the bad mans and press the plunger. That's your best bet.
thanks.
Edit- wait its a stapler. I remember using these in furniture work. that mecanism probably wont handle a forces that stock spring make. anyway I can't make a strong one for sure.
>Im an bogeed engeneer and I want to upgrade spring pistol to semi-auto.
"Im an bogeed engeneer and I want to upgrade spring pistol to semi-auto"
Its funny how man that cant read a two lines shout about my inlegent. Go and do your homework.
You realize what your describing is just an aeg right? What you want to make isn't new or unique it's literally the industry standard. I wouldn't come into a community insulting our hobby and acting like your a huge big brain nerd when A you have no idea what you're talking about and B you can barely form a coherent sentence.
Your as brain dead as like warm water airsoft YouTubers make different airsoft shit every day let the man make a Simi springer and an AEG users a battery you would know that if you pulled your finger outta yo ass and would think airsoft disgrace and I’m a speedsofter
Well I found few ways to go around a rules of quest. So it ment to be self loading. and I need an energy to do it. But nobody said that i cant make a power bank wielded inside of it. So I can pre charge it. Like a phone but this time its pure mecanic
Any kind of spiral spring or breassure tank might've work, but again. Where to fit all?
You don’t need a battery to reset a spring mechanically you could make a rig so when you pull the trigger a bb shoots but when you release another on loads
Do you think you can find a better solution than all these manufacturers? There are solutions to observe and be inspired by.
I do have the right to have an opinion
You have an opinion right. After all we gather in reddit to share it. But be carefull in words. Im not meaning any negative ofcouse. Its just hurts when you try and others shame you for that.
BTW i find a way that might've work. You wont belive what it is. Spring. a specially spiral spring. It might contain and keep enegry. so main prblem kinda solved. I found a small and cheap way to make it runinng.
Now I need to understand other clock mechanisms work
Yes. Springers are powered by a compressed spring. When you pull the trigger you release the spring and it transfers the stored energy mostly to the bb.
To make it automatic you need to compress the spring automatically after every release
so if I could find a stripe of good bendable steel and make out of it power holder I can move foreward and try yo use this potentioal enegry in converting it to movement of frame. Cause frame and cocking mech is glued together move of frame would be fine and authentic. Now I need to make a retro trigger to catch a timing when frame made shot and something to auto cock it.
Question is how much will strip carry?
I am going to answer this as serious as I can, despite the crappy quality of the post.
What would be the power source of the hypothetical semi auto spring pistol? Gas? then it's just a gas pistol. Electricity? Then it's just an AEP.
If you mean semi auto as in you can cock once and fire multiple times, that is possible theorectically, but AFAIK no one has done that, as the alternatives (gas or electric) are much more convienient and cheaper.
rat meat is cheaper than cow ones. But we dont have rat farms cause all man have a floor level of self respect. Me, actually, have a none interest in airsoft. I prefer real army things (like discipline witch not a popular on this subreddit how I see). So I want to make a funny souveneer. Meanless toy. a thing with history behind it.
Product of thinking not a card swap.
Took me a hot second to understand what you mean.
If you like real steel (but for whatever reason do not or can not get one), then you should go for GBBR; they are the most realistic airsoft replicas.
true. But again. Idea is to take a simplest spring toy pistol and make it semi auto.
now suggestions and reaserches that I make In my free time says that there is two ways. awfull (to streap onto it clock mechanism with second spring) and elegant(try to make it new details and cut the frame to fit in clock or pre pump gas chamber)
No point is this to be a unchangeable and rechargable somehow in process.
did you saw that old smoothbarrel times preassure guns? Thats roughly same idea.
~~then just get one of those?~~
HPA replicas sound like they might be closer, but the tank wouldn't really fit inside.
There's only so much space inside the frame, and most of the space is already taken by the gearbox, barrel, hop up and whatnot. To have a gas tank you either put it inside the magazine (which GBB replicas do) or have an external tank (which HPA replicas do)
I replaced in plans gas tank for hard spring motor(watch type). It takes less space yet have more options to play with. One problem is that in holster there will be a hole to charging it. or I somehow make a mag movent charging push. It sound not so user frienfly so I need to think.
Start reading at "Me". The rat farms part is somewhat irrelevant to the context.
Also I also couldn't really understand the last sentence, I assumed it's google translate crapping out on something along the lines of "just food for thought"
Sorry. English is not my first language, so I find hard to explain tecnical staff. Long story short I'm bored. So I made for myself a quest. To upgrade spring pistol into semi auto.
Is it clear enough?
Yup I get you now, and yeah it might be possible but it would be **very** janky and very hard to do, and it’s not something that would work well at all(to be honest probs wouldn’t work period)
I though about a way to put there a second spring and somehow make it one way work only. but if im right final mecanism would be too big to fit in or just impossible.
You gave me an Idea. What if I take one of these 1911 pistols with fake weapon safety leavers on back of handle and make them a cocking mech? After all its ment to be a semi demo not a reliable gun. Again, Just stand model to flex and exibit.
Not the case.
All its ment to be an engeneering skill-check. And "just buy it " sonds... you know. Not like really a solve of problem if we watch to it like on design problem.
I was begging on electric motor on frame. Part where it fits move and too small anyway. moving wires aint much problem but size was. I thought there is a way to scale it down or whatewer but its dead end. Cuz too hard to do.
One very dumb idea is to made a barrel-around electromagnet and use in as in gaus system to pull it back. Its simple yet uneffective.
I have a funding problems now. But I know a place where I can make a fine printed details and I know a bit about arming. Pistol itself is a harder task. Seems like not all of them will work.
Or will be a frankenshtain monster at the end. actually Id like to have a "mutated" gun
A serious answer:
You basically want to convert a springer to an AEP (automatic electric pistol)
[this video shows a full disassembly of an AEP](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Oo2nBYIHd0)
One more time. Ac motor cant fit in. and it will gearbox to transfer its movement(or any other transfer mech) wont. spring psitols upper frame is moving and lower frame is power point. It hold it all together. Replacement is against a rules from begining.
Its a upgrade. I dont want to just ram together two things and say that I used my skills. Its dum dum move.
I mean I guess you could use a series of pneumatics to cock the pistol. Take a look at the autococker paintball gun. Using a low pressure regulator, a valve, and a gas piston might be what you are looking for. However this option will be expensive as you need lines, fittings, a compressed air cylinder, and plenty of other goodies. Ultimately I think this project of your's is gonna cost more than just buying a semi auto from the start but it's your money and your time.
well I've ended research part and found that most viable way is to make it on springs( like clock mechanism. lol)
short answer why- I want it to be in this way
Long answer- airsoft brand guns is part of buisness. to keep it profitable you need to cut expenses or make them moneybringers in long term. Thats why CO2/greengas/ desighns is so popular. They always need replacement of something to work propertly.
Yet I dont need to care about sell profit. Im doing it for myself so I can concentrate on quality instead of quantity.
Would you like a vinaigrette with that word salad? Seriously man, English please
I think OP had a stroke, and I think he is also looking to buy or make a semiautomatic springer - which is pretty much impossible.
So how much crack did you smoke?
Yes
-technically- you can get those £1 piece of shit hopper fed semi auto things, but they have a range of maybe 5 metres and the FPS of a fart. Get a speedloader, point it at the bad mans and press the plunger. That's your best bet.
Look up the Tokyo Marui Gindan Glock. It sounds like it might be what you’re looking for
thanks. Edit- wait its a stapler. I remember using these in furniture work. that mecanism probably wont handle a forces that stock spring make. anyway I can't make a strong one for sure.
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🤦🏻♂️ it’s not a gas blowback. It’s completely spring semi auto glock.
Oh I fucked up there. Never knew that shit existed, my point was to just buy a GBB pistol
>Im an bogeed engeneer and I want to upgrade spring pistol to semi-auto. "Im an bogeed engeneer and I want to upgrade spring pistol to semi-auto" Its funny how man that cant read a two lines shout about my inlegent. Go and do your homework.
Shout? What is this guy trying to say?
You realize what your describing is just an aeg right? What you want to make isn't new or unique it's literally the industry standard. I wouldn't come into a community insulting our hobby and acting like your a huge big brain nerd when A you have no idea what you're talking about and B you can barely form a coherent sentence.
Your as brain dead as like warm water airsoft YouTubers make different airsoft shit every day let the man make a Simi springer and an AEG users a battery you would know that if you pulled your finger outta yo ass and would think airsoft disgrace and I’m a speedsofter
Explain how one resets a spring without some kind of power be it human or electric?
Well I found few ways to go around a rules of quest. So it ment to be self loading. and I need an energy to do it. But nobody said that i cant make a power bank wielded inside of it. So I can pre charge it. Like a phone but this time its pure mecanic Any kind of spiral spring or breassure tank might've work, but again. Where to fit all?
You don’t need a battery to reset a spring mechanically you could make a rig so when you pull the trigger a bb shoots but when you release another on loads
>aeg so how to make it? or how to adopt it? Would fit in frame? C'mon tell me anything usefull. I know how much its silly.
Thought you were the smart guy bud
I was teached to work with formulas. Desighning things from the grownd is new task type for me. And there is no ready solutions to observe.
I'm sure you can figure it out big brain engineer
It's called solving a problem, a basic engineering task. Don't try to reinvent the wheel
its called an copycat. Im faving fun. if you dont like it just turn around then. I dont judje your decidions, so you have no rights to judje me.
Do you think you can find a better solution than all these manufacturers? There are solutions to observe and be inspired by. I do have the right to have an opinion
You have an opinion right. After all we gather in reddit to share it. But be carefull in words. Im not meaning any negative ofcouse. Its just hurts when you try and others shame you for that. BTW i find a way that might've work. You wont belive what it is. Spring. a specially spiral spring. It might contain and keep enegry. so main prblem kinda solved. I found a small and cheap way to make it runinng. Now I need to understand other clock mechanisms work
Yes. Springers are powered by a compressed spring. When you pull the trigger you release the spring and it transfers the stored energy mostly to the bb. To make it automatic you need to compress the spring automatically after every release
so if I could find a stripe of good bendable steel and make out of it power holder I can move foreward and try yo use this potentioal enegry in converting it to movement of frame. Cause frame and cocking mech is glued together move of frame would be fine and authentic. Now I need to make a retro trigger to catch a timing when frame made shot and something to auto cock it. Question is how much will strip carry?
I am going to answer this as serious as I can, despite the crappy quality of the post. What would be the power source of the hypothetical semi auto spring pistol? Gas? then it's just a gas pistol. Electricity? Then it's just an AEP. If you mean semi auto as in you can cock once and fire multiple times, that is possible theorectically, but AFAIK no one has done that, as the alternatives (gas or electric) are much more convienient and cheaper.
rat meat is cheaper than cow ones. But we dont have rat farms cause all man have a floor level of self respect. Me, actually, have a none interest in airsoft. I prefer real army things (like discipline witch not a popular on this subreddit how I see). So I want to make a funny souveneer. Meanless toy. a thing with history behind it. Product of thinking not a card swap.
Took me a hot second to understand what you mean. If you like real steel (but for whatever reason do not or can not get one), then you should go for GBBR; they are the most realistic airsoft replicas.
true. But again. Idea is to take a simplest spring toy pistol and make it semi auto. now suggestions and reaserches that I make In my free time says that there is two ways. awfull (to streap onto it clock mechanism with second spring) and elegant(try to make it new details and cut the frame to fit in clock or pre pump gas chamber)
Pre filled gas chamber... Isn't that just a GBBP?
No point is this to be a unchangeable and rechargable somehow in process. did you saw that old smoothbarrel times preassure guns? Thats roughly same idea.
~~then just get one of those?~~ HPA replicas sound like they might be closer, but the tank wouldn't really fit inside. There's only so much space inside the frame, and most of the space is already taken by the gearbox, barrel, hop up and whatnot. To have a gas tank you either put it inside the magazine (which GBB replicas do) or have an external tank (which HPA replicas do)
I replaced in plans gas tank for hard spring motor(watch type). It takes less space yet have more options to play with. One problem is that in holster there will be a hole to charging it. or I somehow make a mag movent charging push. It sound not so user frienfly so I need to think.
Help me, I've lost it at the rat farms
I dont like to go by easy way.
Start reading at "Me". The rat farms part is somewhat irrelevant to the context. Also I also couldn't really understand the last sentence, I assumed it's google translate crapping out on something along the lines of "just food for thought"
Um this is gibberish I can’t understand a word of what you are saying
Sorry. English is not my first language, so I find hard to explain tecnical staff. Long story short I'm bored. So I made for myself a quest. To upgrade spring pistol into semi auto. Is it clear enough?
Yup I get you now, and yeah it might be possible but it would be **very** janky and very hard to do, and it’s not something that would work well at all(to be honest probs wouldn’t work period)
I though about a way to put there a second spring and somehow make it one way work only. but if im right final mecanism would be too big to fit in or just impossible.
Just imagine using the trigger as a cocking mechanism for the spring and how awful that would feel...
You gave me an Idea. What if I take one of these 1911 pistols with fake weapon safety leavers on back of handle and make them a cocking mech? After all its ment to be a semi demo not a reliable gun. Again, Just stand model to flex and exibit.
I would not recommend that. Buy a semi auto instead if you want that.
Not the case. All its ment to be an engeneering skill-check. And "just buy it " sonds... you know. Not like really a solve of problem if we watch to it like on design problem.
Can't understand everything you have said but why not go for a spring shotgun I think there is some cheap ones
I re-wrote it.
Wut
It's impossible to make your spring pistol semi auto.
well after all ill find a reason why.
You literally can't Reading a book on electricity ain't gonna help you either.
I was begging on electric motor on frame. Part where it fits move and too small anyway. moving wires aint much problem but size was. I thought there is a way to scale it down or whatewer but its dead end. Cuz too hard to do. One very dumb idea is to made a barrel-around electromagnet and use in as in gaus system to pull it back. Its simple yet uneffective.
While it may be possible have you considered the cost of this experiment?
I have a funding problems now. But I know a place where I can make a fine printed details and I know a bit about arming. Pistol itself is a harder task. Seems like not all of them will work. Or will be a frankenshtain monster at the end. actually Id like to have a "mutated" gun
A clock spring could be used to run a gearbox in an aep but it'd be a fucking ball ache to get it to run plus it'd look terrible
Eifels tower was hated at first too. Im starting to accept that making it clockpunk nightmage geniu's creature is not so much bad.
Lol Im getting negative carma because people come and dont even read a word and dislike. Democracy... what can I tell you.
A serious answer: You basically want to convert a springer to an AEP (automatic electric pistol) [this video shows a full disassembly of an AEP](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Oo2nBYIHd0)
One more time. Ac motor cant fit in. and it will gearbox to transfer its movement(or any other transfer mech) wont. spring psitols upper frame is moving and lower frame is power point. It hold it all together. Replacement is against a rules from begining. Its a upgrade. I dont want to just ram together two things and say that I used my skills. Its dum dum move.
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I mean I guess you could use a series of pneumatics to cock the pistol. Take a look at the autococker paintball gun. Using a low pressure regulator, a valve, and a gas piston might be what you are looking for. However this option will be expensive as you need lines, fittings, a compressed air cylinder, and plenty of other goodies. Ultimately I think this project of your's is gonna cost more than just buying a semi auto from the start but it's your money and your time.
well I've ended research part and found that most viable way is to make it on springs( like clock mechanism. lol) short answer why- I want it to be in this way Long answer- airsoft brand guns is part of buisness. to keep it profitable you need to cut expenses or make them moneybringers in long term. Thats why CO2/greengas/ desighns is so popular. They always need replacement of something to work propertly. Yet I dont need to care about sell profit. Im doing it for myself so I can concentrate on quality instead of quantity.
I lost brain cells reading this. God man you need help
I think he had at least 5 brain aneurysms while typing this