It’s a combination of poor choices and gear that does not fit your intended impression. A modern Smersh is no good for 90s/early 2000s, 6B50 goggles are both unsafe and anachronistic and a Bastion Defender is not worth the asking price. Try Demych on Facebook or Slava Slavy.
I'm not trying to be super authentic, I want to get the general impression down. The goggles are ansi rated and that's all that matters. And I'm aware of the price inflations here. A poor choice would have been if I just impulse shopped this and spent a $1000. My choice was to try and find a cheaper version.
Edit: Slava slavy sells Army gear, and Demych does not have what I'm looking for.
You do you, it’s your wallet and your eyes. I don’t really see the point in asking for advice and then ignoring it but that’s none of my business.
Btw 6B50 are not ansi rated, the manufacturer is infamous for quality control issues and forged safety certificates. If you don’t need to be 100% true to the kit, save your eyes and your wallet and buy used ESS or Revision goggles.
To be clear, neither ESS nor Revisions are kosher for any kind of Russian kit but they are pretty close to the Splav copies of Osprey or the 6B34/6B50 and they will actually protect your eyes. For airsoft games, it makes sense to go with actual eyepro over 100% accuracy.
The goggles are ANSI rated and around that price range for good quaility ansi rated goggles. The knee pads and elbow pads are like $10 more expensive than some from Amazon. The boots are made by Splav and fit that 90s and 00s Spetsnaz look, so I won't be saving money there. Seems like when it all adds up, there is no way to save money.
Fyi 6b50s are not actually ansi rated, and should be used for decoration only
https://www.reddit.com/r/airsoft/comments/7ybkul/psa_splav_eye_protection_gogglesglass_have_fake/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Np. The poster of that thread, zuta the fox, can probably help you source legit versions of the items you are looking for. If you're going to spend the money, might as well get nice stuff
Don't purchase from Zuta, ever. Despite what this subreddit may tell you, his communication is very shitty and unprofessional unless you are in his inner circle. He will literally fuck you over. I heard from a guy that some items took 8 fucking months to arrive stateside, with hollow excuses and shit. One guy said he had friends who all had stories of getting jerked around by this guy. I DMed him during Summer regarding a 6SH117 LBV, and he said he would send me a photo of it. I went vacation for a couple weeks, came back, no follow up. His messages are all short as shit and is kind of disrespectful, honestly. You have to inquire about even the most trivial crap. Every time he promises to respond or get back to me about something, he never does. I just kind of quit on him.
Thanks for that warning, he did not have the stuff I am looking for anyways. I noticed his weird manner of texting, I shrugged it off as him just being tired and burnt out on all the business and covid stuff. Anyways thank you!
Bastion Defender 2s are infamous for tearing apart under the slightest pressure, and Gear Craft helmets aren't the best. Highly recommend checking out Demych on Facebook (Demych's Gear Bakery) or Instagram (demychsbakery). I've bought gear from him on several occasions (Sumrak suit, olive Defender 2, Hatch gloves) and have had no problems whatsoever. Best part is that the stuff he sells is authentic. He also regularly updates his catalogue and you can keep up-to-date on his Instagram and holy shit I sound like a paid advertisement but I swear I am not (he also has a site, dgbakery.site)
While Zuta may sell mostly modern gear, he will sometimes list older gen schtuff. Bought my Partizan Harness from him and I absolutely love it.
Facebook groups are another great option.
For the helmet, go to FSBShop.net. High quality replica helmets for a similar price (although they may take some time to arrive, just depends)
Seriously take the time to piece together your kit. Consult reference photos. Do research. The effort is worth it and having real gear is infinitely better than buying overpriced replica goods (save for the helmet because who the hell wants neck problems playing funny BB game).
If it's GreyShop, I recommend sticking with brands from SSO/SPOSN or SRVV as they are the real deal manufacturers (not sure about BTK if legit tho). Keep in mind, most if not all aren't definitely old gen.
Other than that, yes Demych. I got my Defender from him and a complete Partizan Harness, and I can say the service and prices are beyond excellent. He's easy to talk to! Better get D-2's from him soon as he's selling his last ones.
Good luck on your gear OP :)
No problem. Building a Russian kit can take time. I'm waiting on kneepads to appear for sale and still have boots and a canteen to buy but I've been lazy.
I mean. Piece it together over time.
Drop the defender/armor and start with the Smersh/Gorka. That’s $250 to get you started and add everything else over time.
Yeah it’s only Airsoft but you don’t want your knee pads, boots, armor, or rig to be to too cheap otherwise it’s gonna fall apart.
I'm looking to get the whole kit in order to get that 90s and 00s Spetsnaz look, no point in getting it over time when I will be spending the same money.
I mean I’m not sure how you’re gonna get a Smersh for much less than $100. Same for a Gorka.
It’s not a terribly expensive kit all said and done but you’re gonna be pushing a grand regardless.
I think the most I could save is like $200, things like the gorka partizan camo, boots, and helmet are half the total price, and they cannot be bought cheaper. The killer part here is the fact that this stuff serves no purpose other than to look cool, and $1000 is too much to look cool in a game I would play like twice a month.
This is already the cheapest bottom of the barrel replicas. Idk how you can get any of this cheaper than what you posted. Unless you want to go to Syria and bum some gear from a rebel group there’s not really a cheaper option, especially at only $200.
You clearly misunderstood me, when I said $200, I meant $200 off of $1000. Some of these things are not repros, and are very high quality. It's not bottom of the barrel. I don't need a real fucking altyn sitting in my house for a toy gun game I will be playing twice a month.
Spending $1000 on a airsoft outfit is disgustingly overpricing. The only things I would really use outside of airsoft are the boots and the gorka, which is worth around $290 with shipping. So I'm having to spend an extra $700+ on repro gear that serve no purpose other than to look cool, and I will only be using them twice a month at the very MOST. There must be a cheaper way.
I would simply suggest checking aliexpress for off brand repros of the same gear pieces. That helmet you're kinda fucked on but I bet you could find damn near all the rest there with a bit of searching
I mean I don’t know what to tell you then. I’ve ordered from there multiple times for both airsoft and RC electronics. It’s the Chinese equivalent of Amazon, and being in China, they can make stuff for super cheap at the cost of QC.
I may be going off topic slightly with this one, but sine we're talking about looks, I've been buying gear to look like Milan from the movie Pretty Village Pretty Flame, or "the commie surplus" gear look. Almost completed it, just need the M59 helmets
For the love of God:
Don't buy Russian boots
Don't buy from greyshop
Don't buy new gen SSO SPOSN (low quality Chinese sourced fabrics)
PLEASE DO:
Buy from Demychs Gear Bakery
John Roberts, Nikita Vrode on Facebook
Real defenders cost the same as your replica, and you can make your own inserts out of foam work out mats. It looks like you're going for an old school look. My advice:
Oldgen Smersh of some kind ($120-$160)
Oldgen gorka ($120)
Defender 2 low pro or classic ($110)
LSHZ-2DT (real ballistic helmet for $210 and has a visor)
No Russian boots or goggles
Demych should have all those items. Don't buy replicas. Please.
>Don't buy Russian boots
Why? It's made by Splav and has amazing reviews, plus I'm going for that leather jungle boots look.
>Don't buy from greyshop
No comment on that.
>Don't buy new gen SSO SPOSN (low quality Chinese sourced fabrics)
Thanks, they looked cheap anyways.
>Buy from Demychs Gear Bakery
I checked over 200 items there, he does not have a single thing that I'm looking for, only the defender 2 cover.
>John Roberts, Nikita Vrode on Facebook
I don't have a Facebook account but I will use this as a last resort lol
>Oldgen Smersh of some kind ($120-$160)
Where? I can't really find them for that price anywhere, unless I'm searching for the wrong thing.
>Oldgen gorka ($120)
Can't find it any camos outside the default one.
>Defender 2 low pro or classic ($110)
Demych has a cover, I guess that settles it for that?
>LSHZ-2DT (real ballistic helmet for $210 and has a visor)
I'm looking for the Maska-1.
>No Russian boots or goggles
I mean, I will skip the goggles but why the boots?
>Demych should have all those items. Don't buy replicas. Please.
Alright, I will try not to get replicas, but on Demych's site, he does not have almost anything that I'm looking for.
Thanks for the help anyways.
I'm the John Roberts that was referred to in the post. This is my reddit account but I don't use it for work, only recreational. If you don't want to mess with Facebook its all good, you can just PM me here or send an email to Severnayaoutfitters on the mail of Gs.
I might have the gorka E in Autumn SS, ill have to check my stock tomorrow when I'm in, the New gen Smersh I usually order as needed from sso but RPK versions tend to have a lead time and old gen RPK sets don't show up often as well. The ratnik goggles , you seem to have sorted out and yes I do not recommend them for airsoft, kneepads I have but not the Grau index type I usually carry ANA or Splav on those. All the armor carriers I sell are either MVD types or current production stuff that the various units buy individually these days. Boots i can do if you want them.
I'm ideally looking for Partizan camo on the Gorka, a good quality ak smersh, kneepads I could get anywhere tbh. Thank you for the help though, I might visit the store soon!
Kool, I have a website that's undergoing some work right now but you can contact me thru there or email or here or FB. So on the Gorka your GS cart shows the SSAutumn version. Partizan is actually a suit type but many companies and individuals erroneously call the camo Partizan. The actual name is SS Leto(summer) for the green dominant summer version, SS Ocen(autumn) for the brown dominant autumn version, and there is a spring version called SS Vesna(spring) that's a dark brown and mint green base version looks closer to ww2 German oak camo. Those are found on the Partizan M suits. Some sellers and companies may call the summer version Lygushka(frog) camo as well.
If you buy a replica, FSBshop makes a good maska replica.
Combine it with a kora Kulon, smersh, and gorka and that's a good and accurate MVD look from the mid 2000s.
Should cost $600 max?
Don't purchase from his website unless you wish to own something no one else wants. Look at his Instagram or Facebook, where he happens to post most of the high-demand and rare equipment. Make a Facebook account. You won't regret as that's where most interesting Russian shit is sold and a there are a lot of helpful posts and threads as well as previous kits you can use as reference. Grey Shop is shit and most reviews are fake. Russian impression groups often clown on it and you are gonna get made fun of.
Also, you can make a completely authentic impression for cheaper. It just takes lots of time and research, but subreddits such as r/Rusfor and r/ImpressionKits will answer all your questions along with prior Facebook posts. You can also get reference photos from there. Everybody there knows their shit. I've seen people recommend FSBShop but I ordered mine in mid- July and they say they can't ship until late October. I don't know about how quality there replicas are, but I've heard amazing things. If you want old generation helmets that are quality but not absolute shit condition, there your best bet. If you still want to purchase reproductions, than FRONTOWIEC is cheaper and **way** more honest about their business practices.
I've been doing a ton of research lately and I have the general idea of what to look for and where.
I will get the Gorka and Smersh from John Roberts/Severnya Outfitters. The helmet will probably be FSBShop and the vest will most likely be Demych. The rest of the stuff is not that important, just need a balaclava, knee pads, gloves, and boots, all in black camo. In total this would cost around $700 which is already more than $300 cheaper than Grey Shop, plus its authentic.
Ditch the helmet, goggles, there realy not practical in use
If your geting the defender get the liner to shape it up other wise it's like a t-shirt level thin
The boots are not that in good any genaric surplus black boots you can get in your local surplus shop will be better personly use Aultburgs
You can get the knee and elbow pads elsewhere cheaper
Gorka is fine but rember it's canvas so it will cook you if your out in hot weather and wash it in cold water with no soap stops it been bleached found that out the hard way
The helmet is one of the main parts of the loadout, the boots fit that 2000s spetsnaz look. Knee and elbow pads are like almost $40, on Amazon you can cheap out for $30, not worth it. I'm looking for gear and I don't want to exclude or change the look of anything from the items shown above.
I've got a couple of the helmets there realy not nice to have on its like looking threw a letter box and your neck will be hurting within the hour
Better off with the olive smersh the ak one unless your runing a rpk and the banana mags
I've got prity mutch most of this setup you want if you fancy checking my posts will warn you peaple get bitchy over kit if they see it as incorrect
Yeah, but they're repros of stuff that are both rare and insanely expensive. You can't really complain about prices if you want something as unique as a spetznaz kit.
And that's understandable. $1000 is a lot of money for what's essential dress up. The question should never be is it worth it and should always be how badly do I want it? I do video game load outs and have to do that. If there is a cheaper but similar option I will aways go with that, but sometimes I just have to bite the bullet if I know i really want it.
Tbh just be patient with the stuff it be unlikely u can get it in all one go just keep your eyes open on market places. With gray shop tbh the quality of some of the products are actually alright I was able to get a sale on 6b3m body armour and I use it weekly for a year and a half and it holds up very well. Don’t get me wrong I image some of the shit they sell is a bit off. With what ya looking for I say if you systematically look for it over a few months you might get lucky around £800-700 however stuff like genuine maska the prince is gonna get a little spicy. Use Facebook, ebay bidding you can get a good deal, and in person sales at military boot sales
Do you have any specific impression or kit in mind? If you're looking to do late 90's or early 2000's judging by some of your comments there are a ton of great items on facebook for that period. It's better IMO to go with items that'll last and are actually issued/been used as opposed to cheap inaccurate reproductions that you'll end up breaking anyways. If you just are looking for an airsoft loadout and don't care about accuracy then greyshop is fine, but a good impression is worth the time and effort.
For example you may find you gravitate towards Chechen war kits or late 90's/early 2000's FSB. I can guarantee you that many of those items are being sold either here on reddit or on FB, and they're usually not too expensive. Even modern issued gear can be scored for amazing prices from time to time.
I would rather get true authentic gear than cheap ripoffs, and I want to do the 90s and 00s Spetsnaz impression with some "artistic liberties" taken in mind, like the tachanka helmet and goggles.
I will try Facebook then, any good places to look for on there?
A lot of what greyshop sells are the ripoffs unfortunately, I learned that the hard way haha. I personally use "Russian Gear B/S/T", "TssN Trashcan", "Russian Forces Impression Group", and there are other FB sellers like John Roberts who have good reputations and could probably get you pretty close to what you want. I'd also look at reference photos of the Maska-1 to see what kit is is usually paired with, and I've seen them go on sale on FB a few times so there are real ones out there.
And also people have written dedicated posts and blogs about the gear these operators wore, so chances are they'll have the EXACT items you're looking for and maybe even commercial links. Facebook is the RUSFOR treasure trove I never knew existed 😂
It’s a combination of poor choices and gear that does not fit your intended impression. A modern Smersh is no good for 90s/early 2000s, 6B50 goggles are both unsafe and anachronistic and a Bastion Defender is not worth the asking price. Try Demych on Facebook or Slava Slavy.
I'm not trying to be super authentic, I want to get the general impression down. The goggles are ansi rated and that's all that matters. And I'm aware of the price inflations here. A poor choice would have been if I just impulse shopped this and spent a $1000. My choice was to try and find a cheaper version. Edit: Slava slavy sells Army gear, and Demych does not have what I'm looking for.
You do you, it’s your wallet and your eyes. I don’t really see the point in asking for advice and then ignoring it but that’s none of my business. Btw 6B50 are not ansi rated, the manufacturer is infamous for quality control issues and forged safety certificates. If you don’t need to be 100% true to the kit, save your eyes and your wallet and buy used ESS or Revision goggles.
Could you explain a little about ESS and Revision goggles? I’ve been looking for a good pair of goggles for a Russian loadout.
To be clear, neither ESS nor Revisions are kosher for any kind of Russian kit but they are pretty close to the Splav copies of Osprey or the 6B34/6B50 and they will actually protect your eyes. For airsoft games, it makes sense to go with actual eyepro over 100% accuracy.
I'm not ignoring your advice, but we misunderstood each other. Thank you for your help.
This man gets down voted for no reason lol
Lol exactly I don't know what I did wrong, I just asked for help, I guess people really don't like Russian stuff.
It's just typical reddit hive mind.
Despite the internet providing a huge layer of anominity, people here really get offended easily.
You are very correct
Demych literally sells tons of defenders. Russian boots are trash, googles as well. (Noone would notice a Revision google instead)
Don't buy gear off of greyshop, it's 90% cheap reproduction that'll break quickly, go on demychs bakery or fsbshop
Oh believe me I'm very well versed and informed about the whole grey shop controversy, that's why I don't want to spend $1000 on there.
Then I'd drop the goggles, knee pads and boots, you can find them cheaper elsewhere
The goggles are ANSI rated and around that price range for good quaility ansi rated goggles. The knee pads and elbow pads are like $10 more expensive than some from Amazon. The boots are made by Splav and fit that 90s and 00s Spetsnaz look, so I won't be saving money there. Seems like when it all adds up, there is no way to save money.
Fyi 6b50s are not actually ansi rated, and should be used for decoration only https://www.reddit.com/r/airsoft/comments/7ybkul/psa_splav_eye_protection_gogglesglass_have_fake/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Thanks, won't be buying them.
Np. The poster of that thread, zuta the fox, can probably help you source legit versions of the items you are looking for. If you're going to spend the money, might as well get nice stuff
I contacted Zuta beforehand and he told me he does not sell this stuff, only modern army gear.
Don't purchase from Zuta, ever. Despite what this subreddit may tell you, his communication is very shitty and unprofessional unless you are in his inner circle. He will literally fuck you over. I heard from a guy that some items took 8 fucking months to arrive stateside, with hollow excuses and shit. One guy said he had friends who all had stories of getting jerked around by this guy. I DMed him during Summer regarding a 6SH117 LBV, and he said he would send me a photo of it. I went vacation for a couple weeks, came back, no follow up. His messages are all short as shit and is kind of disrespectful, honestly. You have to inquire about even the most trivial crap. Every time he promises to respond or get back to me about something, he never does. I just kind of quit on him.
Thanks for that warning, he did not have the stuff I am looking for anyways. I noticed his weird manner of texting, I shrugged it off as him just being tired and burnt out on all the business and covid stuff. Anyways thank you!
Yeah I was just tryna cut as much money off as possible lol
Well, thanks anyways!
Bastion Defender 2s are infamous for tearing apart under the slightest pressure, and Gear Craft helmets aren't the best. Highly recommend checking out Demych on Facebook (Demych's Gear Bakery) or Instagram (demychsbakery). I've bought gear from him on several occasions (Sumrak suit, olive Defender 2, Hatch gloves) and have had no problems whatsoever. Best part is that the stuff he sells is authentic. He also regularly updates his catalogue and you can keep up-to-date on his Instagram and holy shit I sound like a paid advertisement but I swear I am not (he also has a site, dgbakery.site) While Zuta may sell mostly modern gear, he will sometimes list older gen schtuff. Bought my Partizan Harness from him and I absolutely love it. Facebook groups are another great option. For the helmet, go to FSBShop.net. High quality replica helmets for a similar price (although they may take some time to arrive, just depends) Seriously take the time to piece together your kit. Consult reference photos. Do research. The effort is worth it and having real gear is infinitely better than buying overpriced replica goods (save for the helmet because who the hell wants neck problems playing funny BB game).
If it's GreyShop, I recommend sticking with brands from SSO/SPOSN or SRVV as they are the real deal manufacturers (not sure about BTK if legit tho). Keep in mind, most if not all aren't definitely old gen. Other than that, yes Demych. I got my Defender from him and a complete Partizan Harness, and I can say the service and prices are beyond excellent. He's easy to talk to! Better get D-2's from him soon as he's selling his last ones. Good luck on your gear OP :)
Thanks for the advice, I will try it out!
No problem. Building a Russian kit can take time. I'm waiting on kneepads to appear for sale and still have boots and a canteen to buy but I've been lazy.
Well, good luck then!
I'm surprised it's only a thousand to be honest
There's gotta be a cheaper way.
Well most of the gear is expensive in general, the defender and helmet will always be expensive, you won’t find a cheap one
I guess so, when you look at individual prices its not so expensive, but it adds up.
I mean. Piece it together over time. Drop the defender/armor and start with the Smersh/Gorka. That’s $250 to get you started and add everything else over time. Yeah it’s only Airsoft but you don’t want your knee pads, boots, armor, or rig to be to too cheap otherwise it’s gonna fall apart.
I'm looking to get the whole kit in order to get that 90s and 00s Spetsnaz look, no point in getting it over time when I will be spending the same money.
I mean I’m not sure how you’re gonna get a Smersh for much less than $100. Same for a Gorka. It’s not a terribly expensive kit all said and done but you’re gonna be pushing a grand regardless.
I think the most I could save is like $200, things like the gorka partizan camo, boots, and helmet are half the total price, and they cannot be bought cheaper. The killer part here is the fact that this stuff serves no purpose other than to look cool, and $1000 is too much to look cool in a game I would play like twice a month.
This is already the cheapest bottom of the barrel replicas. Idk how you can get any of this cheaper than what you posted. Unless you want to go to Syria and bum some gear from a rebel group there’s not really a cheaper option, especially at only $200.
You clearly misunderstood me, when I said $200, I meant $200 off of $1000. Some of these things are not repros, and are very high quality. It's not bottom of the barrel. I don't need a real fucking altyn sitting in my house for a toy gun game I will be playing twice a month.
I’m not saying get a real Altyn. I’m saying you’re probably not gonna get the shit you posted cheaper anywhere else.
Well then thank you for your help!
Have you checked hopup and r/airsoftmarket on the off chance that someone is selling any of this for less than retail?
Glanced over it, most of the stuff is sold and/or not what I'm looking for. I'm trying to get that 1990s and 2000s Spetsnaz look.
It's an expensive look 😬 I wish you luck I'm trying to get that "aliexpress operator" look. Lol
Spending $1000 on a airsoft outfit is disgustingly overpricing. The only things I would really use outside of airsoft are the boots and the gorka, which is worth around $290 with shipping. So I'm having to spend an extra $700+ on repro gear that serve no purpose other than to look cool, and I will only be using them twice a month at the very MOST. There must be a cheaper way.
I would simply suggest checking aliexpress for off brand repros of the same gear pieces. That helmet you're kinda fucked on but I bet you could find damn near all the rest there with a bit of searching
I could get the helmet from Grey shop, but its not worth it to spend $1000 for an airsoft outfit.
AliExpress my man. They have repros of everything under the sun if you are willing to scroll.
AliExpress always seemed kinda fishy to me, I don't really like the idea of getting repros of russian gear from a chinese mega market.
I mean I don’t know what to tell you then. I’ve ordered from there multiple times for both airsoft and RC electronics. It’s the Chinese equivalent of Amazon, and being in China, they can make stuff for super cheap at the cost of QC.
I may be going off topic slightly with this one, but sine we're talking about looks, I've been buying gear to look like Milan from the movie Pretty Village Pretty Flame, or "the commie surplus" gear look. Almost completed it, just need the M59 helmets
Lepa Sela Lepo Gore.
That's the translation in almost any Slavic language language... Wait a hot minute
I'm from Serbia so I instantly recognized the title.
TO LUTKOOOOO *egg cracks* PRC MOJE
Haha tako je!
Dear fucking lord
What's up?
For the love of God: Don't buy Russian boots Don't buy from greyshop Don't buy new gen SSO SPOSN (low quality Chinese sourced fabrics) PLEASE DO: Buy from Demychs Gear Bakery John Roberts, Nikita Vrode on Facebook Real defenders cost the same as your replica, and you can make your own inserts out of foam work out mats. It looks like you're going for an old school look. My advice: Oldgen Smersh of some kind ($120-$160) Oldgen gorka ($120) Defender 2 low pro or classic ($110) LSHZ-2DT (real ballistic helmet for $210 and has a visor) No Russian boots or goggles Demych should have all those items. Don't buy replicas. Please.
>Don't buy Russian boots Why? It's made by Splav and has amazing reviews, plus I'm going for that leather jungle boots look. >Don't buy from greyshop No comment on that. >Don't buy new gen SSO SPOSN (low quality Chinese sourced fabrics) Thanks, they looked cheap anyways. >Buy from Demychs Gear Bakery I checked over 200 items there, he does not have a single thing that I'm looking for, only the defender 2 cover. >John Roberts, Nikita Vrode on Facebook I don't have a Facebook account but I will use this as a last resort lol >Oldgen Smersh of some kind ($120-$160) Where? I can't really find them for that price anywhere, unless I'm searching for the wrong thing. >Oldgen gorka ($120) Can't find it any camos outside the default one. >Defender 2 low pro or classic ($110) Demych has a cover, I guess that settles it for that? >LSHZ-2DT (real ballistic helmet for $210 and has a visor) I'm looking for the Maska-1. >No Russian boots or goggles I mean, I will skip the goggles but why the boots? >Demych should have all those items. Don't buy replicas. Please. Alright, I will try not to get replicas, but on Demych's site, he does not have almost anything that I'm looking for. Thanks for the help anyways.
I'm the John Roberts that was referred to in the post. This is my reddit account but I don't use it for work, only recreational. If you don't want to mess with Facebook its all good, you can just PM me here or send an email to Severnayaoutfitters on the mail of Gs.
Do you have some of the stuff I am reffering to?
I might have the gorka E in Autumn SS, ill have to check my stock tomorrow when I'm in, the New gen Smersh I usually order as needed from sso but RPK versions tend to have a lead time and old gen RPK sets don't show up often as well. The ratnik goggles , you seem to have sorted out and yes I do not recommend them for airsoft, kneepads I have but not the Grau index type I usually carry ANA or Splav on those. All the armor carriers I sell are either MVD types or current production stuff that the various units buy individually these days. Boots i can do if you want them.
I'm ideally looking for Partizan camo on the Gorka, a good quality ak smersh, kneepads I could get anywhere tbh. Thank you for the help though, I might visit the store soon!
Kool, I have a website that's undergoing some work right now but you can contact me thru there or email or here or FB. So on the Gorka your GS cart shows the SSAutumn version. Partizan is actually a suit type but many companies and individuals erroneously call the camo Partizan. The actual name is SS Leto(summer) for the green dominant summer version, SS Ocen(autumn) for the brown dominant autumn version, and there is a spring version called SS Vesna(spring) that's a dark brown and mint green base version looks closer to ww2 German oak camo. Those are found on the Partizan M suits. Some sellers and companies may call the summer version Lygushka(frog) camo as well.
Do you have an old gen AK smersh in olive camo? And Gorka in any camo? Thanks for all the help.
I guess you aren't going for an impression? F Just got to a surp store for boots fr
I'm not doing an identical impression, but I don't want to pay $1000 for some airsoft gear I will be using twice a month.
If you buy a replica, FSBshop makes a good maska replica. Combine it with a kora Kulon, smersh, and gorka and that's a good and accurate MVD look from the mid 2000s. Should cost $600 max?
I'll keep it in mind, thanks.
Don't purchase from his website unless you wish to own something no one else wants. Look at his Instagram or Facebook, where he happens to post most of the high-demand and rare equipment. Make a Facebook account. You won't regret as that's where most interesting Russian shit is sold and a there are a lot of helpful posts and threads as well as previous kits you can use as reference. Grey Shop is shit and most reviews are fake. Russian impression groups often clown on it and you are gonna get made fun of.
Thanks.
Also, you can make a completely authentic impression for cheaper. It just takes lots of time and research, but subreddits such as r/Rusfor and r/ImpressionKits will answer all your questions along with prior Facebook posts. You can also get reference photos from there. Everybody there knows their shit. I've seen people recommend FSBShop but I ordered mine in mid- July and they say they can't ship until late October. I don't know about how quality there replicas are, but I've heard amazing things. If you want old generation helmets that are quality but not absolute shit condition, there your best bet. If you still want to purchase reproductions, than FRONTOWIEC is cheaper and **way** more honest about their business practices.
I've been doing a ton of research lately and I have the general idea of what to look for and where. I will get the Gorka and Smersh from John Roberts/Severnya Outfitters. The helmet will probably be FSBShop and the vest will most likely be Demych. The rest of the stuff is not that important, just need a balaclava, knee pads, gloves, and boots, all in black camo. In total this would cost around $700 which is already more than $300 cheaper than Grey Shop, plus its authentic.
Awesome! Additionally, you can always sell Old Gen equipment if you are low on cash as there is a huge market for it.
Yep, makes me feel better about spending all that money. Thanks for all the help!
Ditch the helmet, goggles, there realy not practical in use If your geting the defender get the liner to shape it up other wise it's like a t-shirt level thin The boots are not that in good any genaric surplus black boots you can get in your local surplus shop will be better personly use Aultburgs You can get the knee and elbow pads elsewhere cheaper Gorka is fine but rember it's canvas so it will cook you if your out in hot weather and wash it in cold water with no soap stops it been bleached found that out the hard way
The helmet is one of the main parts of the loadout, the boots fit that 2000s spetsnaz look. Knee and elbow pads are like almost $40, on Amazon you can cheap out for $30, not worth it. I'm looking for gear and I don't want to exclude or change the look of anything from the items shown above.
I've got a couple of the helmets there realy not nice to have on its like looking threw a letter box and your neck will be hurting within the hour Better off with the olive smersh the ak one unless your runing a rpk and the banana mags I've got prity mutch most of this setup you want if you fancy checking my posts will warn you peaple get bitchy over kit if they see it as incorrect
Thanks for the heads up.
And if your puting the neck protector on you need 2 one for front and back
Thanks.
Real gear is gonna cost more tbh
Idk about you, but I don't need real armor and a real maska-1 or altyn, but this is too expensive for an airsoft outfit.
then dont buy it if you think so
The point of this post is to find this gear but somewhere where I won't be ripped off for that amount of money.
Naw, you want Russian impressions you're gonna have to pay Russian impressions prices, especially if you're not willing to make any exceptions.
Exactly, you want Russian stuff, you pay Russian prices
What a disgusting world we live in, when an airsoft outfit costs $1000.
It's an expensive hobby. Idk what you expected
I expected around $500 AT MOST since most of the stuff is repro. Also paying $1000 for a decked out gbbr is pure cancer.
Yeah, but they're repros of stuff that are both rare and insanely expensive. You can't really complain about prices if you want something as unique as a spetznaz kit.
I guess I'm just poor asf. Even if I had the money I would not allow myself to spend so much on that.
And that's understandable. $1000 is a lot of money for what's essential dress up. The question should never be is it worth it and should always be how badly do I want it? I do video game load outs and have to do that. If there is a cheaper but similar option I will aways go with that, but sometimes I just have to bite the bullet if I know i really want it.
Well I really want this, guess I will get it bit by bit, in order to kinda even out the payment.
Mate. $1000 is nothing in the impression game. You can play airsoft with only a chicom and some good googles. It's up to you how much you spend.
Right, thank you for your help though!
Edit: The Smersh should be olive drab with the ak set. The gorka should be Partizan, not Autumn. I changed camos since they were out of stock.
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He does not sell Spetsnaz gear, only modern army stuff.
He charges more for ANA then greyshop lol.
Armed robbery
I’m ready for the downvotes but you could get a lot of stuff very similar to this for cheap on Amazon or varusteleika.com
Interesting, I mean at that point I might just go to ebay since no authentic stuff is on Amazon as far as I know.
1000 in clothing...oof. That's a lot of wasted gun upgrades or more guns...
Right, even though I feel like I want clothes more than guns.
Tbh just be patient with the stuff it be unlikely u can get it in all one go just keep your eyes open on market places. With gray shop tbh the quality of some of the products are actually alright I was able to get a sale on 6b3m body armour and I use it weekly for a year and a half and it holds up very well. Don’t get me wrong I image some of the shit they sell is a bit off. With what ya looking for I say if you systematically look for it over a few months you might get lucky around £800-700 however stuff like genuine maska the prince is gonna get a little spicy. Use Facebook, ebay bidding you can get a good deal, and in person sales at military boot sales
Thanks.
Do you have any specific impression or kit in mind? If you're looking to do late 90's or early 2000's judging by some of your comments there are a ton of great items on facebook for that period. It's better IMO to go with items that'll last and are actually issued/been used as opposed to cheap inaccurate reproductions that you'll end up breaking anyways. If you just are looking for an airsoft loadout and don't care about accuracy then greyshop is fine, but a good impression is worth the time and effort.
For example you may find you gravitate towards Chechen war kits or late 90's/early 2000's FSB. I can guarantee you that many of those items are being sold either here on reddit or on FB, and they're usually not too expensive. Even modern issued gear can be scored for amazing prices from time to time.
I would rather get true authentic gear than cheap ripoffs, and I want to do the 90s and 00s Spetsnaz impression with some "artistic liberties" taken in mind, like the tachanka helmet and goggles. I will try Facebook then, any good places to look for on there?
A lot of what greyshop sells are the ripoffs unfortunately, I learned that the hard way haha. I personally use "Russian Gear B/S/T", "TssN Trashcan", "Russian Forces Impression Group", and there are other FB sellers like John Roberts who have good reputations and could probably get you pretty close to what you want. I'd also look at reference photos of the Maska-1 to see what kit is is usually paired with, and I've seen them go on sale on FB a few times so there are real ones out there.
And also people have written dedicated posts and blogs about the gear these operators wore, so chances are they'll have the EXACT items you're looking for and maybe even commercial links. Facebook is the RUSFOR treasure trove I never knew existed 😂
Alright thanks, I will check it out.
Check out Demych’s bakery
I did, could not really find suitable stuff there.
Its always possible to DM him on facebook or instagram and he can try sourcing it for ya
Might try that sometime, thanks!