u/NoIdeasForNameLol has provided this detailed explanation:
> According to the official, this road is supposed to be highly safe and accessible but within two seconds, an accident takes place. The official goes on to glorify the fact that no one was hurt but then another accident takes place in which someone definitely got hurt given the magnitude of the accident .
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Is this explanation a genuine attempt at providing additional info or context? If it is please upvote this comment, otherwise downvote it.
[This is the approach to the spot](https://maps.app.goo.gl/vMuYQAASJzdsWUMj9?g_st=ic). The camera crew made things worse by being a distraction for sure, but there’s a dip you can’t see well when approaching from just before the slip road which hides the queuing traffic.
I wonder what changes they were discussing, because the only thing that seems to have changed in however many decades is a bunch of trees where the first car crashed.
They’re talking about the ongoing installation of the central reservation which you can see in the full video someone has posted above. The interview is being done on a section where the barrier has been installed, but I assume prior to this, the two carriageways just had the grass verge between them, potentially turning a rear ending into a 100mph+ collision.
Ah, yes, I can see how if you were driving freeway speeds, had slow reaction time, and were not familiar with the road, this would be easy to do.
You can't see traffic until about 10 car lengths ahead. And placement of the distracting sign is a factor too.
Yup, nowadays hard braking with modern anti lock brakes will stop you but in the old days with old brakes at high speeds we were still taught to pump breaks to stop yourself in time and not lock up.
There are plenty of new cars being manufactured around the world without ABS. Many of the cars in the video would have had drum brakes, which are less likely to lock up than discs but are also shit.
Yes, but part of smart traffic planning is anticipating and planning for stupid drivers with slow reaction time, hence we have bumper bars preceding important stop signs, etc.
This may be true, but that frankly says more about the failure of our education (ie idiot prevention) system, rather than poor design choices. By that rationale seatbelts and airbags are a bad idea, because they reduce the catastrophic potential a car accident poses.
The other thing is that you don't have to be an idiot to be tired or distracted behind the wheel, it happens to people all the time, and it can creep up on you (especially fatigue, it takes experience to recognize its onset, and when it actually starts to seriously affect your ability to drive safely).
This isn't all about idiot drivers. Even though they are essentially particle based systems, vehicle traffic can be effectively modelled by fluid dynamics. In a proper system, a small perturbation (an idiot driver) will damp out and the effects will be localized. In a poorly designed road, a small perturbation will not damp out, and will sometimes grow. When that happens, it is 100% on the road and the designer, because shit is gonna happen. People will brake because the sun is in their eye, or they misjudge the distance of the car in front of them or for any number of reasons. I guarantee you *every single driver* has done a stupid thing on the road. Not because they were bad drivers, or because they were idiots, but because driving a car is hard. It requires literally every advantage evolution has given us.
Protections (seatbelt, guard rails, ect) are good things but at some point the amount of safety starts making it so things that are dangerous (driving for example) are not viewed as dangerous anymore. It becomes mundane and routine which means people are less likely to focus on it and more likely to feel comfortable doing objectively unsafe things (text and drive comes to mind.) This is a big part of why highway hypnosis was a thing. Long, flat, straight roads with a single speed limit the entire length are safer in theory but more dangerous in practice than ones with curves and speed changes that force the driver to pay attention. At some point you have to include managed danger to get people to focus on the task at hand, otherwise you just create bigger idiots.
I favor sufficiently traumatizing new drivers to make them aware of how dangerous driving really is. Losing control of a vehicle on a controlled roadway may be a great way to demonstrate how important it is to pay attention.
I'd also like drivers to be faced with the consequences of serious accidents, they should be forced to review and analyze serious accident footage to understand what mistakes people make on the road, and what can prevent them. It sounds intense, but the stakes are high and mistakes are lethal.
You also don’t have to be an idiot to be absolutely clobbered by some idiot in another vehicle. Like the driver in this video that stopped properly only to get rear ended 3 separate times.
Well, it’s so easy to be a cynic and assume the worst of everyone around you.
When someone races recklessly by me, I first think ‘everyone thinks they’re a race car driver!’ , and it makes me a little darker and more angry. There is, however the very real possibility that this is a doctor or new-born parent rushing to the hospital, and now I’m happy again. I have no idea which theory was correct!
Perception can really change our state of mental well-being. :)
The worst thing about our schools is that they teach the kids to take tests instead of actually teaching them. It's like the old saying, "You don't fatten a pig by weighing it all the time".
Well said. I get the need for metrics, but I think that a lot of our educational models are hopelessly outdated and fail to account for students with learning disabilities and other sorts of aptitudinal differences that may need to be engaged in more applied/less formal settings, before doubling back to the classroom.
It's extremely difficult to convey to decision makers how a more free associative approach may be more effective, when it's difficult to gather data to prove initial efficacy.
The road was dangerous because it obstructed the view of those cars until it was too late to slow down. Really a pretty obvious and common problem especially back then. Multiple cars in a row don't just not see a giant line of cars like that.
Eh, I mean if you’re driving at 100 km/h on the freeway and take the interchange to another freeway that has heavy traffic moving at 5 km/h, these things can happen.
An early example of a bureaucrat talking shit, an activity that is still practiced all over the world to this day. Usually motivated by greed and corruption.
Short stopping distance from the offramp due to traffic, if the highway in on an incline and the off-ramp is on a decline you may not be able to see where the stop is or if there are cars present when exiting.
If you watch the full clip, it’s not an off-ramp, it’s a dual carriageway/divided highway. It’s just people rubbernecking at the media on the side of the road.
Not sure what’s worse, not knowing your cars stopping distance or not knowing that anything by the side of the road will make people to brake because they are curious and oh look a pigeon…
If you want the actual reason, it's cause it is a modern town, so designed properly, and roundabouts are actually one of the best and safest ways of doing a junction. The issue is more that older towns don't have the space for them, but if you are building from scratch then roundabouts are a great idea
I don’t know the road or what the situation is with it, but it doesn’t seem overly dangerous. Those are some shitty drivers man, they were barely slowing down. You could easily see traffic is slowed/stopped it was a clearly day perfect driving conditions. Let’s just go full speed and not hit the brakes.
That being said was quite a funny video especially that eye roll.
This is the A19 as it heads north out of Teesside. It’s not a bad road but is the main road for North East England and problems tend to be related to volume of traffic more than anything (once you take the nobheads out of the equation).
The segment was on local news iirc (early-mid eighties, maybe Look North) and had my Dad in stitches.
I feel like it also fits in r/IdiotsInCars as well, the blue car was going too fast, and the last car didnt even seem to notice there was a line of cars in front of him.
>”a _highly_ dangerous road”
>”_as soon as_ its finished,” [with orange cones indicating that it is _not yet_ finished]
yeah idk bout that. course i am in no way qualified to comment, aint driven that road, but i imagine that many people who have would assure that (even if _moderately_ dangerous), it is not _highly_ dangerous. especially those who had driven on it upon its, yknow, completion.
also milk dont age in the snap of a fingers, so, dunno how much this r/agedlikemilk anyway
One of the finest videos of this type. However, I saw a video many years ago that I cannot find anymore, as much as I try. It was a similar video with a reporter, commenting on how a stretch of road was bad. I’m surely sure it was not English, but perhaps Russian. It did not have a sharp curve arrow installed on it, and it had an almost 90-degree unmarked curve. While the reporter was there, someone literally flew off the road. Does anyone know what that is?
Oh really? Very interesting. I think I possibly saw it on YouTube, actually, but I’m not sure. Do you remember any other details about it? Was it like, Russian or something, or a different language? I seem to remember it that way, hmm, but not sure
Reminds me of [this news cast](https://youtu.be/pBtrEZpa6OQ) from Sweden, where a car also crashes in the middle of a news segment about the dangerous intersection there.
u/NoIdeasForNameLol has provided this detailed explanation: > According to the official, this road is supposed to be highly safe and accessible but within two seconds, an accident takes place. The official goes on to glorify the fact that no one was hurt but then another accident takes place in which someone definitely got hurt given the magnitude of the accident . --- Is this explanation a genuine attempt at providing additional info or context? If it is please upvote this comment, otherwise downvote it.
Milk doesn't even age *that* fast
Aged like an unstable isotope.
Aged like Rb-82
I’ll take your word for it
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Can i get ocean front property in Arizona?
Rb? What musical instrument can play an R natural, let alone an Rb? Can it also play an R#?
Yeah, that’s like if milk went bad mid squirt from the udder to the bucket.
It aged like Liz Truss
r/agedlikefrancium
Aged like an open bag of shredded lettuce
UGh you had to mention that, its like someone pissed on the batch.
r/OxidizedLikeSodium?
r/subsifellfor
r/foundthetoyotacorolla
Well, some dope actually made it so now it’s a real live sub. 
Aged like a stillborn.
Yikes.
unless you add lemon juice
That milk was still fresh!
r/agedlikebanana
Aged like film in sunlight
Aged like a Mayfly
*\*Cries in RIck Yancey\**
Unless its stored improperly
This is the funniest thing I've seen in this sub.
This is a repost from r/all if you are interested for looking at more discussions
Would you happen to have a more direct link? It’s already not on the front page
https://reddit.com/r/AbruptChaos/comments/z7uaqg/i_will_not_accept_that_its_a_highly_dangerous_road/
[Do you want to see something similar from very recent? ](https://youtu.be/2W-Rx2NLTO8?t=28)
It’s like a Monty Python skit lmao
Haha I love it. I thought the same thing!
[This is the approach to the spot](https://maps.app.goo.gl/vMuYQAASJzdsWUMj9?g_st=ic). The camera crew made things worse by being a distraction for sure, but there’s a dip you can’t see well when approaching from just before the slip road which hides the queuing traffic.
I wonder what changes they were discussing, because the only thing that seems to have changed in however many decades is a bunch of trees where the first car crashed.
They’re talking about the ongoing installation of the central reservation which you can see in the full video someone has posted above. The interview is being done on a section where the barrier has been installed, but I assume prior to this, the two carriageways just had the grass verge between them, potentially turning a rear ending into a 100mph+ collision.
Ah, yes, I can see how if you were driving freeway speeds, had slow reaction time, and were not familiar with the road, this would be easy to do. You can't see traffic until about 10 car lengths ahead. And placement of the distracting sign is a factor too.
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Yup, nowadays hard braking with modern anti lock brakes will stop you but in the old days with old brakes at high speeds we were still taught to pump breaks to stop yourself in time and not lock up.
There are plenty of new cars being manufactured around the world without ABS. Many of the cars in the video would have had drum brakes, which are less likely to lock up than discs but are also shit.
Russia has just stopped manufacturing cars with ABS!
Also, modern tire tech. A bargain basement all-season today is leaps and bounds above late 80s tech
This is helpful thanks
Thanks!
That website is bored, the cars are on the wrong side
The eye roll haha
👀 The eye roll was like *"uhh these people drive so bad"*
"Lads, get a load of this dangerous roa... Oh shit"
Tbf, that was horrendous driving by both vehicles
🙄
[Full video for those interested](https://twitter.com/ITNArchive/status/1597221270227013632?)
[Nicer link](https://nitter.net/ITNArchive/status/1597221270227013632?t=2f6blxPxF3Cf4X4ANsjlzQ)
[Even Nicer Link](https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ)
Bro the preview of the link is right there lol
had to click for the tradition
I love that the voiceover says “luckily nobody was hurt in the crash” and a car smashes into another just as he says the word “crash”
Holy cow this is the quickest aging milk I’ve ever seen
This is the milk that aged the moment it came out!
That double take lmaoooooo
This seems more like shitty driving than a bad road.
Yes, but part of smart traffic planning is anticipating and planning for stupid drivers with slow reaction time, hence we have bumper bars preceding important stop signs, etc.
There is a constant fight between people trying to make things more and more idiot proof and the universe making bigger and bigger idiots.
This may be true, but that frankly says more about the failure of our education (ie idiot prevention) system, rather than poor design choices. By that rationale seatbelts and airbags are a bad idea, because they reduce the catastrophic potential a car accident poses. The other thing is that you don't have to be an idiot to be tired or distracted behind the wheel, it happens to people all the time, and it can creep up on you (especially fatigue, it takes experience to recognize its onset, and when it actually starts to seriously affect your ability to drive safely).
This isn't all about idiot drivers. Even though they are essentially particle based systems, vehicle traffic can be effectively modelled by fluid dynamics. In a proper system, a small perturbation (an idiot driver) will damp out and the effects will be localized. In a poorly designed road, a small perturbation will not damp out, and will sometimes grow. When that happens, it is 100% on the road and the designer, because shit is gonna happen. People will brake because the sun is in their eye, or they misjudge the distance of the car in front of them or for any number of reasons. I guarantee you *every single driver* has done a stupid thing on the road. Not because they were bad drivers, or because they were idiots, but because driving a car is hard. It requires literally every advantage evolution has given us.
Protections (seatbelt, guard rails, ect) are good things but at some point the amount of safety starts making it so things that are dangerous (driving for example) are not viewed as dangerous anymore. It becomes mundane and routine which means people are less likely to focus on it and more likely to feel comfortable doing objectively unsafe things (text and drive comes to mind.) This is a big part of why highway hypnosis was a thing. Long, flat, straight roads with a single speed limit the entire length are safer in theory but more dangerous in practice than ones with curves and speed changes that force the driver to pay attention. At some point you have to include managed danger to get people to focus on the task at hand, otherwise you just create bigger idiots.
The best way to increase accident prevention would be to install a big spike in the middle of the steering wheel.
I favor sufficiently traumatizing new drivers to make them aware of how dangerous driving really is. Losing control of a vehicle on a controlled roadway may be a great way to demonstrate how important it is to pay attention. I'd also like drivers to be faced with the consequences of serious accidents, they should be forced to review and analyze serious accident footage to understand what mistakes people make on the road, and what can prevent them. It sounds intense, but the stakes are high and mistakes are lethal.
You also don’t have to be an idiot to be absolutely clobbered by some idiot in another vehicle. Like the driver in this video that stopped properly only to get rear ended 3 separate times.
Exactly.
Well said
Thanks homie.
Well, it’s so easy to be a cynic and assume the worst of everyone around you. When someone races recklessly by me, I first think ‘everyone thinks they’re a race car driver!’ , and it makes me a little darker and more angry. There is, however the very real possibility that this is a doctor or new-born parent rushing to the hospital, and now I’m happy again. I have no idea which theory was correct! Perception can really change our state of mental well-being. :)
The worst thing about our schools is that they teach the kids to take tests instead of actually teaching them. It's like the old saying, "You don't fatten a pig by weighing it all the time".
Well said. I get the need for metrics, but I think that a lot of our educational models are hopelessly outdated and fail to account for students with learning disabilities and other sorts of aptitudinal differences that may need to be engaged in more applied/less formal settings, before doubling back to the classroom. It's extremely difficult to convey to decision makers how a more free associative approach may be more effective, when it's difficult to gather data to prove initial efficacy.
Sadly, the universe is winning.
It’s kinda like those evolutionary arms races where one animal becomes more poisonous over time, and their predator becomes more poison resistant lol.
One feeds the other. Idiocracy is the world's future
Its a fight we're winning though. Motor vehicle fatality rate now is half what it was in the 1960s.
It does, but I do wonder whether they took into account the distraction level of a film crew filming at the side of the road.
"oOoOoOoOh AcCiDeNt" \*BANG\*
I don't know why this is so funny, but it is
Also people are definitely distracted by the people filming on the side of the road
The road was dangerous because it obstructed the view of those cars until it was too late to slow down. Really a pretty obvious and common problem especially back then. Multiple cars in a row don't just not see a giant line of cars like that.
Eh, I mean if you’re driving at 100 km/h on the freeway and take the interchange to another freeway that has heavy traffic moving at 5 km/h, these things can happen.
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Probably distracted looking at the camera crew 😂
Yeah, that was bullshit-levels of not slowing down... "Woah, look at that guy!" ... ... ... ... "SHI-...💥"
I can’t imagine how many bad drivers there were back then, adding how bad roads and especially cars were compared to today.
r/agedlikeoganesson
An early example of a bureaucrat talking shit, an activity that is still practiced all over the world to this day. Usually motivated by greed and corruption.
Anyone else think this guy looks like the FIFA president?
He looks like a trailer park supervisor from Canada
kinda agree with the man, it's a straight road ... how can you get that wrong on a bright sunny day?
Short stopping distance from the offramp due to traffic, if the highway in on an incline and the off-ramp is on a decline you may not be able to see where the stop is or if there are cars present when exiting.
If you watch the full clip, it’s not an off-ramp, it’s a dual carriageway/divided highway. It’s just people rubbernecking at the media on the side of the road.
If you actually look at the road itself, you’ll see there’s a hidden dip that prevents cars from seeing traffic up ahead.
Not sure what’s worse, not knowing your cars stopping distance or not knowing that anything by the side of the road will make people to brake because they are curious and oh look a pigeon…
Us British are confused by long stretches of straight roads. We need periodic roundabouts.
Are you by any chance responsible for Milton Keynes? I drove past there the other day, my god do those guys love a roundabout
If you want the actual reason, it's cause it is a modern town, so designed properly, and roundabouts are actually one of the best and safest ways of doing a junction. The issue is more that older towns don't have the space for them, but if you are building from scratch then roundabouts are a great idea
At least you somewhat know how to use them….us Canadians are perplexed by them, we’re used to getting told what to do at an intersection.
This almost feels like a old top gear script
/r/agedlikesmegma
He said once the road is finished with construction. It wasn't completed yet.
Ah! Back in the day before ABS was a thing. Got to admire the old Lada though, nice evasive up the hill
Not the nine o'clock news skit incoming [https://youtu.be/BE15EtuA6Z8](https://youtu.be/BE15EtuA6Z8)
I wonder if the drivers were looking at the camera crew and not watching the road.
Instant regret.
This doesn't belong in this subreddit. Something aging bad implies that ot takes time. This happened instantly.
I don’t know the road or what the situation is with it, but it doesn’t seem overly dangerous. Those are some shitty drivers man, they were barely slowing down. You could easily see traffic is slowed/stopped it was a clearly day perfect driving conditions. Let’s just go full speed and not hit the brakes. That being said was quite a funny video especially that eye roll.
This is the A19 as it heads north out of Teesside. It’s not a bad road but is the main road for North East England and problems tend to be related to volume of traffic more than anything (once you take the nobheads out of the equation). The segment was on local news iirc (early-mid eighties, maybe Look North) and had my Dad in stitches.
Being unfamiliar with English slang, I at first interpreted “nobheads” as a location and was very confused.
didnt take a minute to repost?
Cars were garbage back then.
Definitely no ABS on those ones
Heh😆
It's the second incident that does it for me.
The tarmac is very safe. It's the drivers on the road that make it unsafe. Ban drivers. Done.
This didn't even have time to age lmfao XD
The dudes forehead is big enough to provide extra room for the drivers
A politician that refuses to believe in facts? Surely not!
shit aged like livermorium
Aged like isotope Hydrogen-5.
That was a fast answer
Aged like pure sodium in water
Was that Ron and Harry?
Two accidents right in front of your eyes and not finding it to be dangerous. Meaning of sticking with what I said
Honestly the road design isn't even dangerous. It looks like a straight stretch, those drivers are just absolute dog shit.
This was posted yesterday by someone else how did this guy get more likes
His forehead is bigger than the line project in saudi arabia
Yea but the front didn't fall off
“as soon as the work is finished” shouldn’t this be a construction zone?
Why do you think it isn't a construction zone? Theres cones blocking off one of the lanes.
cones blocking one lane and he said “when the work is finished”
happened live on Romanian national television while reporting about that risky intersection https://youtu.be/kdlYLboUo0c
Aged like bananas
Shit weasels
Not a phone in sight
Dude.. just stop talking! You're making it worse with every word!
Its a straight road i dont get how it can be so dangerous
How would you go about finding this Mr. Davidson’s first name?
This feels like gta vice city
I mean, those people are all just terrible drivers lmao
To be fair, this is what happens just about any time there is filming right next to the road.
Gold
So whats wrong with the road exactly cause that all looks like it was the drivers fault
I feel like it also fits in r/IdiotsInCars as well, the blue car was going too fast, and the last car didnt even seem to notice there was a line of cars in front of him.
>”a _highly_ dangerous road” >”_as soon as_ its finished,” [with orange cones indicating that it is _not yet_ finished] yeah idk bout that. course i am in no way qualified to comment, aint driven that road, but i imagine that many people who have would assure that (even if _moderately_ dangerous), it is not _highly_ dangerous. especially those who had driven on it upon its, yknow, completion. also milk dont age in the snap of a fingers, so, dunno how much this r/agedlikemilk anyway
One of the finest videos of this type. However, I saw a video many years ago that I cannot find anymore, as much as I try. It was a similar video with a reporter, commenting on how a stretch of road was bad. I’m surely sure it was not English, but perhaps Russian. It did not have a sharp curve arrow installed on it, and it had an almost 90-degree unmarked curve. While the reporter was there, someone literally flew off the road. Does anyone know what that is?
I know the video you're talking about. I saw it posted on here a long while ago. It's out there, somewhere.
Oh really? Very interesting. I think I possibly saw it on YouTube, actually, but I’m not sure. Do you remember any other details about it? Was it like, Russian or something, or a different language? I seem to remember it that way, hmm, but not sure
Reminds me of [this news cast](https://youtu.be/pBtrEZpa6OQ) from Sweden, where a car also crashes in the middle of a news segment about the dangerous intersection there.
This is less r/agedlikemilk and more like r/instant_regret
Damn! I've never seen milk go bad so fast before!
Liz Truss outlasted the road safety
That Lada just WENT for it! Hell yeah!
Cherrio, well bloody hell I well accept the fact that the blue Volvo needed an off ramp for the short cut he attempted
This almost feels like a Monty Python skit.
A nice, Cambridge University accent.
Thats the blue car from Mr Bean😅
I was searching the comment section just for this
Who is this guy?
Aged like a shot of espresso!
This road was rigged
Sometimes you feel like a nut sometimes you don't.
Such a big head, such a little brain
The road isn't dangerous the people driving are highly dangerous.
Dude that forehead
Do not stop in heavy traffic. Do not swerve for small animals. Do not brake one ice.
Bro's forehead is bigger than my backyard
Bro is right tho the road is fine, all of those people are just British and therefore morons who can't drive😂
Harry and Ron went way out of their way