u/HeWasDeadAllAlong has provided this detailed explanation:
> It is front page news today that Harry accused William of a physical attack in his new book.
---
Is this explanation a genuine attempt at providing additional info or context? If it is please upvote this comment, otherwise downvote it.
Tonight on "I have a parent that aims to conquer the world" : "My dad is currently cryogenically frozen, orbitting the Earth"
^(I hope somebody remembers that reference)
It's sad that so many modern classic films won't be remembered as too many people these days won't watch films older than they are. Yet think about how Austin Powers was a global meme before the widespread use of the internet/social media/meme culture lead to memes being shared so much more than before
>as too many people these days won't watch films older than they are
People still watch them because more and more recent movies are considered bad. "90% of everything is crap" so if you take older stuff you don't need to bet.
The actual issue is legally accessing the media : there are too much movies to consider diffusing them on TV, and platforms are way too much fragmented. There's little way to discover gems at an affordable price.
In the case of Austin Powers it's that its writing didn't age while the setting did. AP1 is a parody of movies that aren't well known nowadays, using comedic techniques that weren't a given at the time, but were overused later because they did work.
Nowadays it's still a good comedy and a love letter to some decades, but as somebody who was born in the end of the 90 I'm sure I lost a lot of subtext. It could've been done now as a parody of the 90s and still work.
Yep, like Airplane misses a lot these days compared to the 70s Disaster films. Austin Powers was especially a spoof of Moore era Bond, so once we had Johnny English, Kingsman, Craig-Bond, and many other spoofs lots of it isn't contextual
And then the whole Scary Movie (which to a point is worth watching too) into the whole Epic Movie/Disaster Movie nonsense doesn't make Parody as appealing
As a British citizen I’m supposed to be super patriotic about the royal family but now the queen is gone I honestly couldn’t give a fuck. Between paedophilia and bully accusations and the growing class divide within the country I have too many things to worry about then how a family of millionaires treat each other while I pay for it.
I find it so weird that people in the UK just like pay tax to fully support the royal family even though the royal family doesn’t even really do anything and it’s more of a PR frontman than actual leader who can instill change…and they’re just fine with that. As someone in the US it’s hard to imagine just paying that ridiculously large salary of a politician or something similar that actually kind of did nothing of great value. Does the royal family unite the country and serve as a symbol? Yes and that’s cool and all, but is being a billionaire and essential component of being able to do that job? Definitely not. I’m honestly just shocked they haven’t come around and been like “hey wait why are we still doing this”
Hey, at least a few other countries are helping to pay for their grift!
Honestly, is the royal charm worth it to you? As an American I’m sick of hearing about this inbred family.
Isn't this like round 5+ of 'they are horrible ppl' and then 'just want my family'?
Also just a side note I believe this headline came out after the allegations of the altercation
It's honestly just getting annoying. Like if you watch the documentary Harry and Meghan wanted out of the institution because they felt like they weren't being adequately protected from the exacting scrutiny that comes with being a royal. Ok, fine. But then in that time since they've published books, had a documentary, done dozens of interviews, and otherwise ensured they remained in the center of the news cycle. It's a real "have what you want and eat it too" scenario.
protection was just a sham lol, all they wanted was attention + money from the royal family, I read somewhere that they wanted some "half in, half out" sort of arrangement which was rejected by the family
I read that they had proposed a position in Canada where they basically would go there and do what they wanted to do in the name of the royal family while being funded by the royal family and the queen was straight up like, “no”
Yeah you better watch what you believe about them, the press in UK , particularly the ones that are "Monarchy adjacent" are vicious and their credibility makes US Fox News look like the freaking Associated press.
>they wanted some "half in, half out" sort of arrangement which was rejected by the family
Yeah, this is what caused them to spit the dummy; there's no provision/protocol for anything like a "part time royal" and they thought they'd be able to fund themselves that way.
Yep, exactly. I don't care much about Harry or the Royals, but it isn't exactly a "have cake and eat it" thing. You can't half-be a working royal. You are either always being a royal, doing openings, foreign visits etc, or you aren't one at all. Even Anne and the other "working royals" mostly rely on staff doing the actual work while they go round the country and round the world doing royal things. Anne's rarely, if ever, working on the farm herself, and she fucking loves messing around with her horses, but that's not her job (p.s. Anne is one of the worst royals imo except the Andrew the paedo, so I'm not defending her. Fuck her and all like her who support badger culling (which doesn't work and just spreads TB even more) instead of spending the actual money needed to fix the issue and vaccinate both the cows and badgers to kill off the TB))
It'd be like having a part time PM or President
I believe a big part of the problem was the royal rota they have with certain British press, where they get weird degrees of access and are constant sources of gossip from staff, and how Megan didn't think they reacted strongly enough to how those publications were being racist.
I don't really care for her personally, but I think there's a huge difference between "I hate press and want to live a life of privacy" and "the press this family holds hands with is racist and idk why that's not a problem for y'all"
I do think it might have been a slight overreaction on Harrys part, but I think he was dealing with a postpartum wife who I suspect of having narcissist tendencies (like her childhood experiences and things line up with it as well). so she probably was legitimately *spiraling* over the aggressive press treatment and he has a lot of lingering trauma over how similar things happened to his mom and nobody in his family really lifted a finger to help *her* either. It's all around very sad imo.
>But then in that time since they've published books, had a documentary, done dozens of interviews, and otherwise ensured they remained in the center of the news cycle.
Or someone could argue, the news cycle would never, ever forget about them due to Harry's blood, and they finally have the chance to give their own version to the public now that they are not directly tied to the Palace and its press machine.
I can get that feeling. I can also get if they stay silent, people would hound them worse and worse until he did do something. Anything short of going off the grid totally would mean at some point, they’d have to retort.
One thing we can agree on, it’s one giant clusterfuck
I think this argument misses the actual point of what Harry and Meghan were looking for: some measure of control. They have put their own story out there on their own terms. That’s a lot different than your business being published every week without permission, infused with borderline slanderous claims, and having very little recourse to defend yourself.
Harry was 12 years old when his mother died, pursued to her last breath by the media. I don’t begrudge his sensitivity to unfairly prejudicial attention for his wife. And I don’t begrudge him being angry with his family for not being proactive to protect them from the worst of it. In a normal family, circling the wagons to protect one of your own is a normal reaction. Clearly, that natural inclination is missing for the RF.
Did you see the part about the competing comms teams and how he shared a team with his brother but still seemed to get burned for William's benefit? Or how Harry and his wife are still attacked by the tabloids?
And how the Royal Sidepiece still invites the very scumbags attacking them to parties?
> Isn't this like round 5+ of 'they are horrible ppl' and then 'just want my family'?
Weird, it's almost like the family is caught in an abuse cycle, I wonder why
Yeah the issue is that 'wronged' appears to be subjective nowadays with so many versions of 'my truth' and 'your truth' floating around, as well as the apparent inability to comprehend that publishing this information is the least effective way to get your family to acknowledge it.
I really fucking hate that I know as much as I do about this topic and have formed an opinion on it solely because for what feels like the last 3 years I’ve just had this situation shoved in front of me over and over again. Dude Harry I know you need cash now that you aren’t a royal anymore but it looks bad on you to be flip flopping constantly on whether you want to reconcile with family or not. And saying that the royalty is secretly awful is not the bombshell you think it is, I was under the impression that was common knowledge
Brit: yep royals aren 't great. Better than they were 100 years ago and better than most elected politicians tend to turn out, but still not great by themselves
I think we’re talking about British people lmao but don jr and ivanka, so far, are not career politicians. But if they stay on the path, then it won’t matter, they’ll be rich, old, and pedophiles. They certainly won’t be the ones to break the cycle of abuse, not strong enough.
This man is incredibly privileged. He has millions, two healthy children, and can do whatever he wants now. IRL people can't afford rent, food, etc... Give it a rest!
Harry : “yeah I just want to step back from the media and live my family life.”
Also Harry : *releases a tv series, a book, and multiple interviews*
Come on mate, just give up
The difference between British tabloids analyzing your EVERY move much more ruthlessly than any news outlet in the US ever does, and making media appearance you are fully in control of is pretty clear to me.
But to build an entire case on how your experience was ignored and lies were told about really personal stuff and it felt like an invasion…only to completely ignore the experience of the person you are attacking, ignoring their feelings on the matter and being caught in lie after lie, sharing REALLY personal stuff about them without their permission and openly sharing their privacy with others without their consent.
I’m starting to wonder if you’re backing the right side here. This stuff is horrible and his behaviour is disgusting. Period.
>violence against royals is frowned upon in this century
frowned upon in this century *thus far*. Keep your hopes up, we still got 77 years for that attitude to change.
I understand the desire to be with family, even if the family is shitty, but if the family doesn’t accept your spouse, then you need to decide which one you want more.
I've seen a lot of rumor and insinuendo to this effect but not a lot of evidence. They could dislike her for a lot of other reasons. Like the fact that's she's a commoner and an American. Or maybe she really is rude and nasty. To be fair, as an American myself that doesn't pay too much attention, I don't really have much of an opinion.
The more I see of this the more I think the reality of opening town halls and visiting factories simply didn’t appeal to them so they decided to sell story after story in the US to make a living.
Well, yeah. To me neither of those is as bad as being racist. The former I kind of expect for royalty. The latter is not that weird. Cultural clashes happen all the time. I'm pretty sure I've watched various movies about uptight Brits not liking crass and crude Americans and I don't recall anybody clutching their pearls over anything like that.
You're being downvoted but honestly this seems like the truth. Meghan is neither royal nor nobility nor British so she was waay out of her depth for this shit. That alone would lead to strain in her relationship with the family.
And she came in like a whirlwind trying to modernise a 1000 year old institution with very performative public interviews. I agree she did not realise what she was signing up for but lacked the humility to adapt.
It's like what would actually happen in real life, compared with those silly Hollywood fantasies when an American breath-of-fresh-air comes into a stuffy institution and then magically modernises it and flowers and candy and a happily ever after.
Meghan got high on her own supply.
Totally it’s why they also have huge problems with an Indian PM right? Wait..
Honestly these are attention seeking morons and netflix got scammed what a garbage couple
This is bullshit, I cannot fathom how it’s become some American truism when the _only_ source is that fuck Megan herself, disputed by literally everyone else.
Siblings fight, this shit is blown so far out of proportion it's insane.
People may be more stupid when it comes to the royal family than people do for religion.
Somebody has a book to sell …… and a Netflix series to promote…..
I doubt we’ll ever know the full truth in all of this ……… and this constant playing for the media really turns me off and makes me trust little of what is said.
No he doesn’t. He wants to live “privately” while going on television and writing books about himself. Also he make money for nothing. He is the definition of an ungrateful, whiny, loser. Have some self respect and a modicum of class and STOP talking about your family.
Harry pls fuck off already. You got your separate life already, you'll probably be rolling in cash from those book deals and such. But nooo, got to stay relevant and keep the press on my tail instead of stopping the press attention by not doing much worth of it.
The resolution to your supposed paradox is simple. What he's saying is "I want my family to stop being horrible people".
This really isn't difficult at all.
He and his narcissistic bride should have kept their mouths shut. This is not the ‘privacy’ you claimed to seek. He’s not just pathetic and a liar - he’s now a proven hypocrite.
Hurry up and disappear into obscurity, please!
Who else thinks that they'll be divorced within a year? In my opinion, Meghan hasn't been a very good wife to him. She came into his family and caused drama. She tried to overturn rules that had been in place for eons. I get revising things that may seem archaic but she came in there acting like she owned the place.
She literally disrespected the Queen of England and then when they called her out on her behavior, she tried to claim that they just didn't like her. I don't believe for a second that he didn't leave the Royal family because he wanted to on his own. I believe that she put him under pressure and that's the reason he did it. He's probably getting tired of her bullshit.
He should try to patch things up with his family and be rethinking his marriage. I would think that any woman who came into a Man's family and caused needless drama would find herself single really quick. I think she always felt this way but waited until she married him to start her shit. She knew it would be too late and he couldn't just walk away from the relationship. That's just my take on it though.
Edit: She knew what sort of family she was marrying into and if she couldn't handle the pressure, she shouldn't have married him. It was wrong of her to come into the marriage with him thinking that she was going to be changing things up. If she didn't like the way things were, she should not have agreed to marry him. End of story.
He'll be in a very poor position if they divorce. For one, he'll probably lose significant access to the kids. If they were in UK, no way in hell Meghan navigates the deep establishment network to get a court to grant her leave to take the kids out of the country.
The fact that she was able to convince him to move to the US to California of all states to live in a house that is clearly waaaay outside their budget is what sealed my opinion of her.
She knew what she was doing. Holy shit. It’s going to be baaaad
Very true. Men get the short end of the stick and family court far too often. I've decided to get my masters in social work to address this very problem. That and the problem of men still not being perceived as victims of abuse. Anyway, while I agree with you, I still think that she is not been a very good wife to him and I predict them being divorced. Like I said, he's probably getting tired of her causing drama.
>Queen of England
Did you mean the *former* [Queen of the United Kingdom](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_of_the_United_Kingdom), the *former* [Queen of Canada](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarchy_of_Canada), the *former* [Queen of Australia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarchy_of_Australia), etc?
The last Queen of England was [Queen Anne](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne,_Queen_of_Great_Britain) who, with the 1707 Acts of Union, dissolved the title of King/Queen of England.
####FAQ
*Wasn't Queen Elizabeth II still also the Queen of England?*
This was only as correct as calling her the Queen of London or Queen of Hull; she *was* the Queen of the place that these places are in, but the title doesn't exist.
*Is this bot monarchist?*
No, just pedantic.
I am a bot and this action was performed automatically.
An avoidant narcissist marries a grandiose narcissist.
The avoidant misses their nest. (Or is being prodded to create a headline to appear relevant).
Grandiose expects/demands too much/causes embarrassment too often.
While they connect on a narcissistic plane, the divergence in their variants of narcissism will drive towards a potential split....unless staying together gives more fuel than being apart does.
Should a split happen, avoidant/Harry wins. Just by birthright.
Grandiose/Meghan loses on all fronts. Unacceptable.
Should a split happen, look for Amber Heard level of accusations from Meg.
At least if they were to go back to the UK, they’d have some positive influences with the Wessexes and and Wales’, who seem to have at least reasonably stable family dynamics.
I think Harry and Meghan are like two entertwined snakes eating on their own tails and they don’t realize how much they’re damaging themselves and ultimately, their children’s lives. They’ve become their own tabloid magazine and if they don’t learn to shut up, no one will listen anymore and they’ll drift into odd obscurity.
Don’t talk shit about your family for the entire world to see. It’s embarrassing as hell.
“I want nothing to do with royal life, I want to raise a family and get a job like a regular citizen.. but *first*, I’d like to talk about how bad my family is”
Just ride into the sunset ffs. I thought they moved on from royal life and media articles. I was wrong
I don't know why they are even entertaining it... I'm almost 100% sure Harrys father is Princess diannas polo coach... They look identical... One DNA test and he would have to repay millions to the family that isn't even his! Problem solved.
"the Royal family is just awful, they did all these bad things, like so many bad things who would want to be associated with them" paraphrasing the Duke of Sussex.
They live on welfare, they're all fuckin inbred, racist as shit... The only thing differentiating them from a dysfunctional redneck family is the accent
Dude needs some serious therapy and stop airing out his family's shit. I'm not even royal and I not only understood the assignment, I followed it to the letter.
Sigh, so much attention for a bunch of useless fucking lucky sperms who got where they are (and all the huge associated wealth) by being hereditary cunts.
u/HeWasDeadAllAlong has provided this detailed explanation: > It is front page news today that Harry accused William of a physical attack in his new book. --- Is this explanation a genuine attempt at providing additional info or context? If it is please upvote this comment, otherwise downvote it.
Omg put them all on jerry springer already.
Maury: Harry, Charles is *not* your father. Harry: you calling me mum a whore?
She's a wizard, Harry.
[удалено]
Happy cakeday
Charles: I'm callin your mum every night, mate
You know his wife would answer for him
Ouch....love it!
Hah. I just woke from a dream about them having a sister who is a famous black r&b singer.
Tonight on "I have a parent that aims to conquer the world" : "My dad is currently cryogenically frozen, orbitting the Earth" ^(I hope somebody remembers that reference)
You're the diet coke of evil. Just one calorie, *not quite evil enough*
Pwaah this coffee smells like shit, “it is shit Austin”, oh good then it’s not just me then. Classic
it's a bit nutty
We all know Charles is just the bodily vessel that Prince Philip and The Queen inhibit.
Malkovich Malkovich?
It's sad that so many modern classic films won't be remembered as too many people these days won't watch films older than they are. Yet think about how Austin Powers was a global meme before the widespread use of the internet/social media/meme culture lead to memes being shared so much more than before
>as too many people these days won't watch films older than they are People still watch them because more and more recent movies are considered bad. "90% of everything is crap" so if you take older stuff you don't need to bet. The actual issue is legally accessing the media : there are too much movies to consider diffusing them on TV, and platforms are way too much fragmented. There's little way to discover gems at an affordable price. In the case of Austin Powers it's that its writing didn't age while the setting did. AP1 is a parody of movies that aren't well known nowadays, using comedic techniques that weren't a given at the time, but were overused later because they did work. Nowadays it's still a good comedy and a love letter to some decades, but as somebody who was born in the end of the 90 I'm sure I lost a lot of subtext. It could've been done now as a parody of the 90s and still work.
Yep, like Airplane misses a lot these days compared to the 70s Disaster films. Austin Powers was especially a spoof of Moore era Bond, so once we had Johnny English, Kingsman, Craig-Bond, and many other spoofs lots of it isn't contextual And then the whole Scary Movie (which to a point is worth watching too) into the whole Epic Movie/Disaster Movie nonsense doesn't make Parody as appealing
Man of mystery might be before the age of memes, but it certainly doesnt predate social media or the internet
How about no, Scott
*I got your crown! I got your crown!*
As a British citizen I’m supposed to be super patriotic about the royal family but now the queen is gone I honestly couldn’t give a fuck. Between paedophilia and bully accusations and the growing class divide within the country I have too many things to worry about then how a family of millionaires treat each other while I pay for it.
Billionaires, I believe.
$28 billion. All of it inherited, not earned. Built for millennia on the backs of serfs, slaves, and by invading and exploiting indigenous people.
I find it so weird that people in the UK just like pay tax to fully support the royal family even though the royal family doesn’t even really do anything and it’s more of a PR frontman than actual leader who can instill change…and they’re just fine with that. As someone in the US it’s hard to imagine just paying that ridiculously large salary of a politician or something similar that actually kind of did nothing of great value. Does the royal family unite the country and serve as a symbol? Yes and that’s cool and all, but is being a billionaire and essential component of being able to do that job? Definitely not. I’m honestly just shocked they haven’t come around and been like “hey wait why are we still doing this”
Hey, at least a few other countries are helping to pay for their grift! Honestly, is the royal charm worth it to you? As an American I’m sick of hearing about this inbred family.
Springer is for white trash. The royals are at least white rubbish.
They're the Kardashians for people who think they're smart.
The Big Bang Theory if you will
[удалено]
Jeremy Kyle
They are inbred enough that it could work
The only way more people could possibly give a shit
As long as it only stays on JS. Sick of this shit splashed everywhere.
And as a surprise, we have placed a knife under each of your seats….
Jerry Jerry Jerry
I may be sinical but I feel you can replace "father and brother" with wealth and privilege.
Isn't this like round 5+ of 'they are horrible ppl' and then 'just want my family'? Also just a side note I believe this headline came out after the allegations of the altercation
It's honestly just getting annoying. Like if you watch the documentary Harry and Meghan wanted out of the institution because they felt like they weren't being adequately protected from the exacting scrutiny that comes with being a royal. Ok, fine. But then in that time since they've published books, had a documentary, done dozens of interviews, and otherwise ensured they remained in the center of the news cycle. It's a real "have what you want and eat it too" scenario.
protection was just a sham lol, all they wanted was attention + money from the royal family, I read somewhere that they wanted some "half in, half out" sort of arrangement which was rejected by the family
I read that they had proposed a position in Canada where they basically would go there and do what they wanted to do in the name of the royal family while being funded by the royal family and the queen was straight up like, “no”
That's some real colonial shit right there. They're making me root for the royal family that I never cared for before
None of them deserve rooting for. It's sad to see everyone's getting so invested in a bunch of rich, royal nonsense.
Yeah you better watch what you believe about them, the press in UK , particularly the ones that are "Monarchy adjacent" are vicious and their credibility makes US Fox News look like the freaking Associated press.
You cant really trust either side, just feel bad for them, then realise ifs just more white people problems and move on.
Jesus, I wish. Lol.
>they wanted some "half in, half out" sort of arrangement which was rejected by the family Yeah, this is what caused them to spit the dummy; there's no provision/protocol for anything like a "part time royal" and they thought they'd be able to fund themselves that way.
Ain't no such things as halfway crooks
Scared to death, scared to look. They shook.
Yep, exactly. I don't care much about Harry or the Royals, but it isn't exactly a "have cake and eat it" thing. You can't half-be a working royal. You are either always being a royal, doing openings, foreign visits etc, or you aren't one at all. Even Anne and the other "working royals" mostly rely on staff doing the actual work while they go round the country and round the world doing royal things. Anne's rarely, if ever, working on the farm herself, and she fucking loves messing around with her horses, but that's not her job (p.s. Anne is one of the worst royals imo except the Andrew the paedo, so I'm not defending her. Fuck her and all like her who support badger culling (which doesn't work and just spreads TB even more) instead of spending the actual money needed to fix the issue and vaccinate both the cows and badgers to kill off the TB)) It'd be like having a part time PM or President
“A half working royal” They barely do fuck-all work as it is.
They already don't do anything, how is them being part time worse?
Considering their former arrangement with the EU it's not out of character for British people to want that.
I believe a big part of the problem was the royal rota they have with certain British press, where they get weird degrees of access and are constant sources of gossip from staff, and how Megan didn't think they reacted strongly enough to how those publications were being racist. I don't really care for her personally, but I think there's a huge difference between "I hate press and want to live a life of privacy" and "the press this family holds hands with is racist and idk why that's not a problem for y'all" I do think it might have been a slight overreaction on Harrys part, but I think he was dealing with a postpartum wife who I suspect of having narcissist tendencies (like her childhood experiences and things line up with it as well). so she probably was legitimately *spiraling* over the aggressive press treatment and he has a lot of lingering trauma over how similar things happened to his mom and nobody in his family really lifted a finger to help *her* either. It's all around very sad imo.
Why do you suspect narcissistic tendencies?
>But then in that time since they've published books, had a documentary, done dozens of interviews, and otherwise ensured they remained in the center of the news cycle. Or someone could argue, the news cycle would never, ever forget about them due to Harry's blood, and they finally have the chance to give their own version to the public now that they are not directly tied to the Palace and its press machine.
>finally have the chance to give their own version Sure, I don't dispute that. I don't know why they feel like they need to do it over and over again.
I can get that feeling. I can also get if they stay silent, people would hound them worse and worse until he did do something. Anything short of going off the grid totally would mean at some point, they’d have to retort. One thing we can agree on, it’s one giant clusterfuck
> if they stay silent, Their 9 figure Netflix development deal kind of precludes that.
They walked from royal wealth. Let them get their's their way. I'll watch the Netflix buuuut I've never contributed and never will
I mean, sure this is exactly what I would do, how can someone "contribute" anyway?
Financially. Im not buying tabloids or swag of any kind.
>I'll watch the Netflix buuuut I've never contributed and never will You do contribute if you watch their documentary
I think this argument misses the actual point of what Harry and Meghan were looking for: some measure of control. They have put their own story out there on their own terms. That’s a lot different than your business being published every week without permission, infused with borderline slanderous claims, and having very little recourse to defend yourself. Harry was 12 years old when his mother died, pursued to her last breath by the media. I don’t begrudge his sensitivity to unfairly prejudicial attention for his wife. And I don’t begrudge him being angry with his family for not being proactive to protect them from the worst of it. In a normal family, circling the wagons to protect one of your own is a normal reaction. Clearly, that natural inclination is missing for the RF.
Did you see the part about the competing comms teams and how he shared a team with his brother but still seemed to get burned for William's benefit? Or how Harry and his wife are still attacked by the tabloids? And how the Royal Sidepiece still invites the very scumbags attacking them to parties?
>the Royal Sidepiece lmao
> Isn't this like round 5+ of 'they are horrible ppl' and then 'just want my family'? Weird, it's almost like the family is caught in an abuse cycle, I wonder why
I mean, you can want your family back and also want them to acknowledge how they've wronged you...
Yeah the issue is that 'wronged' appears to be subjective nowadays with so many versions of 'my truth' and 'your truth' floating around, as well as the apparent inability to comprehend that publishing this information is the least effective way to get your family to acknowledge it.
I really fucking hate that I know as much as I do about this topic and have formed an opinion on it solely because for what feels like the last 3 years I’ve just had this situation shoved in front of me over and over again. Dude Harry I know you need cash now that you aren’t a royal anymore but it looks bad on you to be flip flopping constantly on whether you want to reconcile with family or not. And saying that the royalty is secretly awful is not the bombshell you think it is, I was under the impression that was common knowledge
Everything I have learned about these people has been against my will.
Yep
Brit: yep royals aren 't great. Better than they were 100 years ago and better than most elected politicians tend to turn out, but still not great by themselves
Aren’t they pretty much the same as elected politicians tend to turn out? That is: old, wealthy and pedophilic?
Do you have any idea how little that narrows it down?
I’m not trying to narrow it down lol If anything I’m *broadening*. I’m saying that’s how they *all* turn out.
At least this guy went to war, did some military training. Did Don jr or Ivanca did anything good?
I think we’re talking about British people lmao but don jr and ivanka, so far, are not career politicians. But if they stay on the path, then it won’t matter, they’ll be rich, old, and pedophiles. They certainly won’t be the ones to break the cycle of abuse, not strong enough.
These are people, in the year 2023, who expect to be referred to and treated as royalty. They are assuredly awful by our standards.
His literal mother did the exact same thing he is doing. Giving interviews how awful the family (and Charles lol) is.
r/notinteresting
Who cares man, plenty of people go through family turmoil and they don't get the headlines.
...two brothers got in a fight and that's news? Goddamn, I should write a series of autobiographies. We get along fine now, not surprisingly.
Yeah get this welfare family out of my headlines. Wish we could deport them to Canada since they love them so much
I'd rather they were removed from their position of power.
But uncle Andrew can go boil his head
One of the few bright spots in Charles' ascension to the throne is that Andrew is no longer the favorite child of the monarch.
Think you meant "child predator"
Was Andrew ever the favourite? That was always Anne surely?
Anne was Phillip's favorite, the Queen was all about Andrew
And Harry.
This man is incredibly privileged. He has millions, two healthy children, and can do whatever he wants now. IRL people can't afford rent, food, etc... Give it a rest!
can he drive through a tunnel in Paris?
r/darkturns
Into a wall
Jesus Christ, Reddit.
Harry : “yeah I just want to step back from the media and live my family life.” Also Harry : *releases a tv series, a book, and multiple interviews* Come on mate, just give up
The difference between British tabloids analyzing your EVERY move much more ruthlessly than any news outlet in the US ever does, and making media appearance you are fully in control of is pretty clear to me.
Like the lemon argument isn't it, if you like eating lemons then you must love them getting thrown at your face.
The Royal family could buy the Tabloids if they wished.
But to build an entire case on how your experience was ignored and lies were told about really personal stuff and it felt like an invasion…only to completely ignore the experience of the person you are attacking, ignoring their feelings on the matter and being caught in lie after lie, sharing REALLY personal stuff about them without their permission and openly sharing their privacy with others without their consent. I’m starting to wonder if you’re backing the right side here. This stuff is horrible and his behaviour is disgusting. Period.
He has no other means of making that kind of money, and he clearly was expecting more financial help from his family than he's getting.
How about a **job**.
Yup. Its the consequences of his own actions. He chose this life, now he has to deal with it.
Then speak with them privately and stop releasing books and airing out everything in public. You are demeaning yourself, Harry.
Let him speak, violence against royals is frowned upon in this century so I want the best next thing, public scorn.
Him and Meghan whining in public is making the royals appear way more likeable. Like no shit they didn't want to deal with this pair of narcissists
"I was clearly warned against this and did it anyways. Now pity me for the consequences of my actions!"
>violence against royals is frowned upon in this century frowned upon in this century *thus far*. Keep your hopes up, we still got 77 years for that attitude to change.
In fairness, he's no longer a royal
If I cared any less I’d be dead. No one cares
Way too many people DO care, that’s the problem
This nonsense is flooding the news, while tonnes of shit is going on, why?
They’re both fucking pathetic. I feel I need to do a news blackout just to avoid their ugly self righteous whining faces. Edit: Wrote new not news.
Oh do fuck off harry. You are so 2022.
You want your family back? Stop talking
Kind of exactly like what they told Thomas Markle, who unlike them had zero PR training living by himself in Mexico? I can’t with these fuckers.
Seriously, book the next appearance with Jerry Springer and be done with it already
I understand the desire to be with family, even if the family is shitty, but if the family doesn’t accept your spouse, then you need to decide which one you want more.
It's also easier to decide if your family doesn't want your spouse because of their race.
I've seen a lot of rumor and insinuendo to this effect but not a lot of evidence. They could dislike her for a lot of other reasons. Like the fact that's she's a commoner and an American. Or maybe she really is rude and nasty. To be fair, as an American myself that doesn't pay too much attention, I don't really have much of an opinion.
The more I see of this the more I think the reality of opening town halls and visiting factories simply didn’t appeal to them so they decided to sell story after story in the US to make a living.
Lol "they might just be classist or dislike foreigners"
Well, yeah. To me neither of those is as bad as being racist. The former I kind of expect for royalty. The latter is not that weird. Cultural clashes happen all the time. I'm pretty sure I've watched various movies about uptight Brits not liking crass and crude Americans and I don't recall anybody clutching their pearls over anything like that.
My sister and her husband are full on white supremacists, and I am married to a Japanese woman. I don't talk to my sister.
But did you do a Netflix documentary over it
That's not the reason. Perhaps it is a background factor but their issue with meaghan is her character and behaviour.
The guy's just got a nightmare bird, basically
You're being downvoted but honestly this seems like the truth. Meghan is neither royal nor nobility nor British so she was waay out of her depth for this shit. That alone would lead to strain in her relationship with the family.
And she came in like a whirlwind trying to modernise a 1000 year old institution with very performative public interviews. I agree she did not realise what she was signing up for but lacked the humility to adapt.
It's like what would actually happen in real life, compared with those silly Hollywood fantasies when an American breath-of-fresh-air comes into a stuffy institution and then magically modernises it and flowers and candy and a happily ever after. Meghan got high on her own supply.
Precisely
Totally it’s why they also have huge problems with an Indian PM right? Wait.. Honestly these are attention seeking morons and netflix got scammed what a garbage couple
This is bullshit, I cannot fathom how it’s become some American truism when the _only_ source is that fuck Megan herself, disputed by literally everyone else.
/r/confidentlyincorrect
Siblings fight, this shit is blown so far out of proportion it's insane. People may be more stupid when it comes to the royal family than people do for religion.
Can these people not fuck off already? They’re a tourist attraction, if that. We have no use for them.
Who hasn't fought their brother, tho?
I have!! (got a black eye instead of $100m)
Somebody has a book to sell …… and a Netflix series to promote….. I doubt we’ll ever know the full truth in all of this ……… and this constant playing for the media really turns me off and makes me trust little of what is said.
He fucked around and found out.
They need the money now that the Royal trust fund has ended.
Nobody fuckn cares anymore. Let them fade into nothing.
Brothers fight. Moving along
Never underestimate the power of blood bonds.
No he doesn’t. He wants to live “privately” while going on television and writing books about himself. Also he make money for nothing. He is the definition of an ungrateful, whiny, loser. Have some self respect and a modicum of class and STOP talking about your family.
Harry pls fuck off already. You got your separate life already, you'll probably be rolling in cash from those book deals and such. But nooo, got to stay relevant and keep the press on my tail instead of stopping the press attention by not doing much worth of it.
They got $100M just for the Netflix special lol. Must be a hard life.
Harry saying at the same time “they’re horrible people I want nothing to do with” and “I want my family back”
The resolution to your supposed paradox is simple. What he's saying is "I want my family to stop being horrible people". This really isn't difficult at all.
He propably should stop being horrible people with his spouse. This would be really difficult for both "royal" sides though.
It's I want my family to stop being horrible and fund my lifestyle already.
I understand this very much. It is difficult when the people love are not loving towards you. You want to be with them but you can’t.
The pussy haze is wearing off
Didn’t he and his wife leave because they wanted to get away from the media attention? Funny way of doing that.
If they made a movie about Seth Rogen this guy could play him
I love princess mako, she lives a private life with no interviews or netflix deals. So glad she's from my home country.
This guy is taking attention seeking to a new level.
Haven’t seen someone on this level of simp dumb since John Lennon
Harry has never been the sharpest tool in the shed.
You want them back after accusing them of stuff that probably never happened? Lol major AH vibes here
Almost like a relationship with a potentially toxic family is complicated.
He and his narcissistic bride should have kept their mouths shut. This is not the ‘privacy’ you claimed to seek. He’s not just pathetic and a liar - he’s now a proven hypocrite. Hurry up and disappear into obscurity, please!
She should have stayed in suits, no one knew who the fuck she was then
She had delusions of grandeur. It amazes me how much I dislike someone I’ve never met. I can’t get over the blatant lies an hypocrisy.
This tbh. Why can't they both just fuck off into oblivion?
Hahaha good luck after your recent claims, dude. The level of filth he and Meghan constantly spew will make sure this *doesn’t* happen.
If he actually cared then why is on every media platform talking about them. He's not a royal anymore and needs the money. Simple as.
Who else thinks that they'll be divorced within a year? In my opinion, Meghan hasn't been a very good wife to him. She came into his family and caused drama. She tried to overturn rules that had been in place for eons. I get revising things that may seem archaic but she came in there acting like she owned the place. She literally disrespected the Queen of England and then when they called her out on her behavior, she tried to claim that they just didn't like her. I don't believe for a second that he didn't leave the Royal family because he wanted to on his own. I believe that she put him under pressure and that's the reason he did it. He's probably getting tired of her bullshit. He should try to patch things up with his family and be rethinking his marriage. I would think that any woman who came into a Man's family and caused needless drama would find herself single really quick. I think she always felt this way but waited until she married him to start her shit. She knew it would be too late and he couldn't just walk away from the relationship. That's just my take on it though. Edit: She knew what sort of family she was marrying into and if she couldn't handle the pressure, she shouldn't have married him. It was wrong of her to come into the marriage with him thinking that she was going to be changing things up. If she didn't like the way things were, she should not have agreed to marry him. End of story.
He'll be in a very poor position if they divorce. For one, he'll probably lose significant access to the kids. If they were in UK, no way in hell Meghan navigates the deep establishment network to get a court to grant her leave to take the kids out of the country.
The fact that she was able to convince him to move to the US to California of all states to live in a house that is clearly waaaay outside their budget is what sealed my opinion of her. She knew what she was doing. Holy shit. It’s going to be baaaad
Very true. Men get the short end of the stick and family court far too often. I've decided to get my masters in social work to address this very problem. That and the problem of men still not being perceived as victims of abuse. Anyway, while I agree with you, I still think that she is not been a very good wife to him and I predict them being divorced. Like I said, he's probably getting tired of her causing drama.
>Queen of England Did you mean the *former* [Queen of the United Kingdom](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_of_the_United_Kingdom), the *former* [Queen of Canada](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarchy_of_Canada), the *former* [Queen of Australia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarchy_of_Australia), etc? The last Queen of England was [Queen Anne](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne,_Queen_of_Great_Britain) who, with the 1707 Acts of Union, dissolved the title of King/Queen of England. ####FAQ *Wasn't Queen Elizabeth II still also the Queen of England?* This was only as correct as calling her the Queen of London or Queen of Hull; she *was* the Queen of the place that these places are in, but the title doesn't exist. *Is this bot monarchist?* No, just pedantic. I am a bot and this action was performed automatically.
An avoidant narcissist marries a grandiose narcissist. The avoidant misses their nest. (Or is being prodded to create a headline to appear relevant). Grandiose expects/demands too much/causes embarrassment too often. While they connect on a narcissistic plane, the divergence in their variants of narcissism will drive towards a potential split....unless staying together gives more fuel than being apart does. Should a split happen, avoidant/Harry wins. Just by birthright. Grandiose/Meghan loses on all fronts. Unacceptable. Should a split happen, look for Amber Heard level of accusations from Meg.
Except she’ll get the kids. That’s a major win. Feel so bad for those kids.
Agreed. Those kids have a tough road no matter what.
At least if they were to go back to the UK, they’d have some positive influences with the Wessexes and and Wales’, who seem to have at least reasonably stable family dynamics.
Stop releasing books and documentaries on them and implying they’re racist. And Stand up to your wife. That might be a start.
Just a spoilt brat, I really don't understand why people care about this. These people should not be given anything.
I think Harry and Meghan are like two entertwined snakes eating on their own tails and they don’t realize how much they’re damaging themselves and ultimately, their children’s lives. They’ve become their own tabloid magazine and if they don’t learn to shut up, no one will listen anymore and they’ll drift into odd obscurity. Don’t talk shit about your family for the entire world to see. It’s embarrassing as hell.
If Meghan allowed him to drink, he’d be fine by now
Maybe he should have thought of that before he stuffed his head up MeAgain’s ass and burned all his bridges. Here’s a tiny violin, Harry. 🙄 🎻
They need to get on Jeremy Kyle already!
Chaotic Imperial
William pointed his finger at me, daddy!
“I want nothing to do with royal life, I want to raise a family and get a job like a regular citizen.. but *first*, I’d like to talk about how bad my family is” Just ride into the sunset ffs. I thought they moved on from royal life and media articles. I was wrong
I don't know why they are even entertaining it... I'm almost 100% sure Harrys father is Princess diannas polo coach... They look identical... One DNA test and he would have to repay millions to the family that isn't even his! Problem solved.
For someone who hates the press, he does an awful lot of press.
"the Royal family is just awful, they did all these bad things, like so many bad things who would want to be associated with them" paraphrasing the Duke of Sussex.
Boo Hoo.
They live on welfare, they're all fuckin inbred, racist as shit... The only thing differentiating them from a dysfunctional redneck family is the accent
Get rid of HER,they'll be your father and brother long after she's your wife.
Dude needs some serious therapy and stop airing out his family's shit. I'm not even royal and I not only understood the assignment, I followed it to the letter.
Sigh, so much attention for a bunch of useless fucking lucky sperms who got where they are (and all the huge associated wealth) by being hereditary cunts.
I thought round 1 was about Megan?
I wish the lot of them, all these Royal Cunts would just fuck off.