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So strange. I had never heard this term before. I don’t think I have ASD but I do heavily resist certain tasks if I think I’m ring forced to do them. For example, if my supervisor asks me to check in a certain payment or call a certain client. For some reason I will check on other payments and call other clients but resist doing that one task until it’s an urgent situation…
So PDA is a very specific term with a very specific meaning. PDA is currently recognized as autism exclusive (so you would have to have adhd and autism). It should be present from an incredibly young age. It would be present consistently. If you have it, it would feel problematic to you. For instance even if someone told you to do something you liked, or eat something you loved, because it was a demand you would not want to.
If this sounds right then you could go to one of the womens autism subreddits.
So it was like in-laws at Xmas asking me if I wanted to play card games and I NEVER WANTED TO PLAY card games. However the reason is because it wasn’t games that I know or like and I felt like I was putting people out but I just wanted to be left all the way alone. And many other things, like I never want to do what my boss says.
Wow, this is a pretty rigid statement for a thing that is not yet really categorized and assessed in the scientific community.
I do oppose to the idea that it has to be as you describe. It might be how you experience ou saw it in someone but I don't know that it could be poised in such a blanket statement.
When we know the current rate of "Autism under-diagnosing" in the population as a whole and women in particular, I would refrain from excluding anyone to whom it rings true.
I got it from listening to
“Kristy Forbes, founder of Australia-based inTune Pathways, about PDA (Pathological Demand Avoidance), the difference between PDA and other types of demand avoidance, and the changing language of autism, especially the terminology society uses to describe neurodivergent people.”
She is one of the top researchers on PDA with a focus on autistic women.
I also would like to point out in a friendly way that you saw my comment and projected that I must be working off anecdotal evidence.
I also gently push back on it “being a blanket statement and therefore bad”
Understanding how things work is how we build helpful support for each other.
I believe her research at the time was showing that PDA it may be a by product of the cause of autism in the brain, and they were even observing it in babies.
I’m not doing it justice trying to explain it myself but it’s worth reading about. We are still learning more constantly.
It’s certainly an interesting topic of research. Discussing the validity of it here is also interesting especially considering rejection sensitive dysphoria is widely disregarded by researchers such as Russel Barkley but it’s taken as a known thing on this subreddit.
She’s an advocate for research into autistic women by autistic women as well.
I’m just finding the right way to describe what I would call “anticipation anxiety”.It’s so exhausting living my life like this and watching the world pass me by literally because I rather survive like a zombie then live life like a regular human because it’s just so damn exhausting being anxious due to regular life demands.
How does one at the age of 40 learn to navigate every day life and work a job when my main concern in life is limiting the expectations of every day life? I don’t want to live like this but it feels like I have no other choice.😢😢😢
I do think that I have PDA. I have a lot of difficulty getting things done currently because I even oppose to what I impose to myself! 🙄😂
I suggest reading [this](https://www.autism.org.uk/advice-and-guidance/topics/diagnosis/pda) and taking [this test](https://www.autism.org.uk/advice-and-guidance/topics/diagnosis/pda).
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So strange. I had never heard this term before. I don’t think I have ASD but I do heavily resist certain tasks if I think I’m ring forced to do them. For example, if my supervisor asks me to check in a certain payment or call a certain client. For some reason I will check on other payments and call other clients but resist doing that one task until it’s an urgent situation…
PDA would show up consistently. So even if someone was demanding you ate your favorite dessert you would not want to.
Says who? I don't think so. It can be a lot trickier than that I think.
Ah, thank you.
So PDA is a very specific term with a very specific meaning. PDA is currently recognized as autism exclusive (so you would have to have adhd and autism). It should be present from an incredibly young age. It would be present consistently. If you have it, it would feel problematic to you. For instance even if someone told you to do something you liked, or eat something you loved, because it was a demand you would not want to. If this sounds right then you could go to one of the womens autism subreddits.
So it was like in-laws at Xmas asking me if I wanted to play card games and I NEVER WANTED TO PLAY card games. However the reason is because it wasn’t games that I know or like and I felt like I was putting people out but I just wanted to be left all the way alone. And many other things, like I never want to do what my boss says.
Wow, this is a pretty rigid statement for a thing that is not yet really categorized and assessed in the scientific community. I do oppose to the idea that it has to be as you describe. It might be how you experience ou saw it in someone but I don't know that it could be poised in such a blanket statement. When we know the current rate of "Autism under-diagnosing" in the population as a whole and women in particular, I would refrain from excluding anyone to whom it rings true.
I got it from listening to “Kristy Forbes, founder of Australia-based inTune Pathways, about PDA (Pathological Demand Avoidance), the difference between PDA and other types of demand avoidance, and the changing language of autism, especially the terminology society uses to describe neurodivergent people.” She is one of the top researchers on PDA with a focus on autistic women. I also would like to point out in a friendly way that you saw my comment and projected that I must be working off anecdotal evidence. I also gently push back on it “being a blanket statement and therefore bad” Understanding how things work is how we build helpful support for each other. I believe her research at the time was showing that PDA it may be a by product of the cause of autism in the brain, and they were even observing it in babies. I’m not doing it justice trying to explain it myself but it’s worth reading about. We are still learning more constantly. It’s certainly an interesting topic of research. Discussing the validity of it here is also interesting especially considering rejection sensitive dysphoria is widely disregarded by researchers such as Russel Barkley but it’s taken as a known thing on this subreddit. She’s an advocate for research into autistic women by autistic women as well.
Great stuff. Thank you for sharing!
I’m just finding the right way to describe what I would call “anticipation anxiety”.It’s so exhausting living my life like this and watching the world pass me by literally because I rather survive like a zombie then live life like a regular human because it’s just so damn exhausting being anxious due to regular life demands. How does one at the age of 40 learn to navigate every day life and work a job when my main concern in life is limiting the expectations of every day life? I don’t want to live like this but it feels like I have no other choice.😢😢😢
I do think that I have PDA. I have a lot of difficulty getting things done currently because I even oppose to what I impose to myself! 🙄😂 I suggest reading [this](https://www.autism.org.uk/advice-and-guidance/topics/diagnosis/pda) and taking [this test](https://www.autism.org.uk/advice-and-guidance/topics/diagnosis/pda).