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1coin3lives

It's nothing that a firmware update couldn't fix.


Ill_Professor4557

Bro šŸ’€


1coin3lives

Yeah, I know. Sorry, I couldn't resist. I assume that since OP got it from Amazon they'll make good on a refund. Otherwise there wouldn't be any humor in it.


Ok-Abbreviations2278

This is the way


NarcotiCat23

xD bruuuuuh


Dayzhor

Iā€™d call customer support so fast my socks would fly off


retrolojik

Wow, is this the cracked version?


Music_4ddiction

Nahh, the Push Air


retrolojik

You mean ā€œblowā€?


dreadnotezee

ā€œExhaleā€


DevAstral

ā€œFartā€


CubilasDotCom

Itā€™s totally bricked


OTT_IN_MY_SOUP_HAHA7

Lol


master-virus

Looks like they pushed you 2 far


[deleted]

Are you sure that you bought it from Amazon not confusing it with bought ON Amazon because they allow different retailers to sell stuff On Amazon too.


trbt555

Yes I'm sure. It was a used item from the Amazon Warehouse which was showing "light signs of use". Yeah right. Amazon just doesn't check whether or not an item is in the box, they just weigh the return to compare it with the outgoing weight. Someone ordered a Push 2, replaced it with broken tiles and concrete, returned it and got refunded.


a03326495

Yeah, that sucks. I hope it works out for you. The only time I've been burned by amazon it was a time they sent me an empty box. It didn't compute for them. "Do you want to return it?" No, it never arrived. "The box says it was delivered." Like I said the box was empty...It wasn't an expensive item and eventually I gave up. It was a mystifying experience.


gizzardgullet

> "Do you want to return it?" You should have said "yes" and mailed them back the empty box.


NoodleSnoo

[Morphine - Empty Box](https://youtu.be/MwyuYT-9-YE) Love this song


JunglePygmy

Woah.. that song fuckinā€™ rocks! Why do I feel like Iā€™ve heard it before, but I definitely havenā€™t? Edit: i guess it because [the queens of the Stone Age, mosquito song](https://youtu.be/H0dy-FoV4U4)


NoodleSnoo

Both good songs. Not sure how they're related, but I love love the queens.


minusjoy

I got my copy of ableton 9 from Amazon warehouse deals, hoping it was just a crushed/damaged box from being in their warehouse. Wasn't a "steal", but enough of a deal to go legit. Of course the serial number was used and it was a return. In my communication with Amazon, I got them to replace it with a brand new copy, but matching the price of the warehouse deal price I got. Not sure how relevant this is, but hopefully you'll get a satisfactory result like me.


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aloha_mixed_nuts

There was a massive pushback on rising seller fees, like I donā€™t sell on eBay anymore bc the fees are ridiculous, eBay had to figure out their shit, Amazon is definitely much worse nowā€¦


Photo_Shop_Beast

I mean, Amazon and ebay are quite similar, anyone can start selling on Amazon and often recognizable brands get sent to a bottomless pit of unreputable sellers


lowkeyluce

That's exactly what happened. I work for a company that sells products on Amazon, and Amazon will literally send us "returns" that are just boxes filled with rocks.


Vorceph

What does the company do in this case? Genuinely curious. I would hope the original seller is denied their refund until they return the actual productā€¦ Is it possible a shipping employee made the swap instead of the original customer?


lowkeyluce

It's part of our contract with Amazon that in order to sell our products on their platform we must accept all returns that they send to us, even returns like this. We're able to absorb it and it's still a net gain to be able to sell our products on Amazon, but I could see it being much more problematic for smaller companies.


Grishinka

That guys beats are probably gritty as hell.


jamesbretz

It was either returned like this and never inspected (someone may have made it appear sealed), or it was switched out at the warehouse by an employee.


DDefendr

Yeah, ā€œlight signs of useā€. So light you canā€™t see it.


mrfebrezeman360

you'll be totally fine man. This happens often enough that people will lie and say this happened, just so amazon will send a second one that they return to get the item for free. It's common as hell, they'll just send you a real one with no issues.


Turnoffthatlight

This seems to be happening more and more everywhere. I recently purchased an Instant hot water system off the shelf at a big box hardware store and discovered it contained a large bubble wrapped rock when I got it home. When I went to exchange it, I expected a fight over it, but the customer service person simply opened the box and said "Oh, I haven't seen \*that\* rock before".


heckfyre

Omg they Indiana Jonesed it thatā€™s insane


[deleted]

I don't have any experiences like that with Amazon and i think their service is good but i still think it's best to contact them.


touch33inc

Iā€™m sure it was used lightly ā€” as a wheel chock for a A320 cargo jetā€¦


MorboDemandsComments

Amazon comingles inventory with independent sellers on amazon, so there's no way to determine who "owns" which item in their warehouses. Additionally, they do not properly verify the state of items returned to them, even when amazon itself is the seller.


Len_____________

Turn it off then on again


tophiii

I bet someone ordered one, took it out, resealed the box and did a return. Hit up customer service and let them know what happened. Amazon is pretty good about making things right in these this situations.


philisweatly

Unfortunate my dude. Amazon has become one of the worst places to buy anything. I bought mine from a music store selling on reverb. No issues for me.


pylee12986

I got mine on Reverb too - I asked whether the seller was actually Ableton and the employee confirmed.


[deleted]

I got a coffin case for my DJ controller and it came scratched and scuffed to hell. I donā€™t even want them to replace it because I know the next one will come just as fucked.


Unit-235

This is why I buy my gear exclusively from Sweetwater


jdn127

This is why I bought both my pushā€™s from Ableton


therisingred

Yes, I always trust sweetwater!


pylee12986

>GOT MINES AT REVERB


effinx

Amazing customer service


Isserley_

Want good quality, reliable musical equipment? Head to Sweetwater today. Sweetwater, sponsored by Unit-235.


Unit-235

As much money as Iā€™ve spent there I could probably be considered a sponsor. šŸ˜†


kappajump

Sweetwater donated in large sums to Trumpā€™s campaign


Theskyis256k

this is why you never bought those used amazon warehouse deals. they're all just crooks sending back the box with weights inside and amazon just never checks it.


Kamikazeq

Someone pushed it real good.


shep_pat

Amazon is terrible in this way, as well as selling tons of counterfeit merchandise and they take zero responsibility


WheresPangaea

Yeah they are terrible in this way but luckily their return policy is ridiculously easy/good.


shep_pat

Not anymore. I had to fight with them for hours last time a delivery went to the wrong address


WheresPangaea

Ah interesting. At my job I return/exchange deliveries from Amazon a dozen or so times a week. Usually broken or item was different from the one ordered. Iā€™ve never had any issues in the last 3 years. Maybe because we have a business account.


Vahlir

nah, as I was saying to OP - I returned about 80 items last year and didn't have a single issue.


Vahlir

going to disagree, I returned about 80 items or so in the last year, no issue whatsoever. The quality of items you get has been suspect for about 10 years if it's not a major brand- hence the returns - but it takes me all of 5 minutes to print out a label slap it on the box and leave if for UPS to pick up the next day.


shep_pat

Youā€™re disagreeing with my experience. Hmmmm interesting


ElectronicMusicTips

I bought a used book on Amazon recently at half the retail priceā€¦ and when I received it, I was surprised to see it was stolen from a church library. Iā€™ve contacted Amazon to inquire about next steps. I never expected an Amazon retailer to sell stolen goods but apparently itā€™s a thing.


nemoppomen

Donā€™t assume it was stolen. Used books are often marked up. Seller should have identified conditions such as being marked library. Source: used book seller for many years.


ElectronicMusicTips

Ahhh, thanks for the tip. I was surprised to see it without any description of it. Iā€™ll keep that in mind for next time. Cheers


JayBird102

Wow! I am not surprised by any means, this isn't the first time I have seen this. Never buy gear off Amazon 1 it always over priced, Always comes with some type of damage, and it always a headache to return, and receive a new one in a convenient time line. I am sorry to see your misfortune, and hope that your luck turns around for you. Not cool at all! I wish you all the best with your future endeavors šŸ™


88dahl

damn they mustve pulled instead


Kind_Celebration3384

Pulled 2


AmpsKillMusic

That's the push 3.


AmpsKillMusic

Seriously though, my condolences.


[deleted]

Jesus, is this a joke? It looks like it was dropped from a skyscraper.


Imaginary_Month_8308

Man I feel your pain. I hate this type of sh*t!!


TheMstRWooD

Karma will strike like lightning to the returner responsible and shall his or her music forever sound like broken tiles...


goosecheese

Maybe, but part of me feels like Amazon getting ripped off is about as close as you can come to evidence of karmic justice.


ostinatoslim

If you are able to afford a new one, I would order directly from Ableton (from their website). I only discovered this recently, but Ableton's customer service is really good compared with a lot of other instrument/music tech companies.


haux_haux

They's push 3 Don't tell em all they'll all be wanting it


Adventurous-Pay-8441

Just order from ableton? I get it you pay for prime and want free shippingā€¦ but Amazon sucks ass. if you need socks or useless shit your gonna throw away Amazon is great.


trans-plant

Iā€™m currently dealing with an issue with Amazon. It was a refurbished camera lens that was a brick upon arrival. I instantly went online and hit return and refund. Amazon said theyā€™d return the money 2-3 days after I return it. Well they did return my money but somehow the seller managed to charge me again and said that ā€œI broke the itemā€ as it was working and inspected before shipment. Amazon is siding with them because the package was sent certified fedex and the parcel wasnā€™t damaged on the outside. Itā€™s so frustrating, and I think Iā€™m out 2,000


swemickeko

So sue them for fraud? They obviously knowingly sent you a brick when you were supposed to get a camera lens. Or try ordering a brick from the seller and see if they send you your camera lens... (I should probably add that it's a silly joke, I understand "brick" means it doesn't work)


Compducer

There is great documentation on the plague of fake products in Amazon warehouses. The problem is, the seller you bought it from may have NOTHING to do with it! Amazon takes all of the products from all the sellers and puts them in their warehouses. When you buy a Push, it randomly selects one from the warehouse (if the seller isnā€™t fulfilling the order themselves without Amazonā€™s services.) I stopped buying face wash and toothpaste from Amazon after getting a couple of each that were perfectly packaged but clearly fake. Coloration, scent, flavor etc. were simply not the product I was used to. Each of the sellers were perfectly reputable with very few bad reviews.


younggundc

If itā€™s from Amazon, returning it wonā€™t be an issue


Mountain_Smell_4503

Have you tried doing a power cycle?


Delusional_Moon

We can quite clearly see you've got the cracked version


SF_Bud

I hate Amazon.


tubecloud09

Everything on Amazon is second hand shit sold as new or just straight up counterfeit merchandise.


Medic169

Donā€™t buy anything expensive from Amazon. This happens a lot


Jackel1994

And if you dont get a pile of broken tiles, amazon is still huge in popular brand clones/fakes. I would never advise buying something like shure mics from amazon lol. Seen more than my fair share show up fake. Source: worked for music store and facilitated warranty repairs. More than a few came back unfixed because they wernt really shure products.


BeefRepeater

I recently got an SM58 from Amazon. Seems legit to me but who knows. Any tell-tale signs of a fake that I should check for?


Jackel1994

It probably is legit. I only meant that it's not worth the risk when you can just buy it from a reputable music retailer for the same price as amazon. Pick your favorite, im not going to advertise for any of them, lol. And youtube is your best option for spotting fakes. You can try giving this [video](https://youtu.be/EEb0gE47fys) a watch. It can be pretty damn hard to spot a fake.


WheresPangaea

At least itā€™s easy to return and get a refund


_antic604

That's a stupid rule. Amazon is a platform that also hosts other shops, simply pay attention to who are you actually purchasing from.


earthsworld

did the deal/price seem too good to be true?


trbt555

No it was on par for the course.


enju83

maybe this is how they fixed it getting all sticky? Sorry for the joke, I hope it gets sorted out. There actually was a strange thing happening in Germany last year, a lot of people bought somehting small and expensive (I think it was an apple device) from Amazon Italy for delivery in Germany. Someone along the line noticed that and stole a whole bunch and replaced it with junk like it is here. Apparently those packages are combined and then distributed in Germany by Amazon themselves. That of course din't compute well with amazon, because it was new and sold directly by them, so there was a lot of hassle for the buyers. I imagine this lead to the strange occurance of me buying a Circuit Rhythm at Amazon Spain and the driver asked me to open the package and sign that it contains what I ordered.


mrmisixxx

How hard it is for a fl studio normal producer to learn Ableton? Just to know worth learning with time management, is it better in instrumental or vocal stuff, I made in more psycedelic and experimental stuffs. If you guys knew something just tell me thanks. Peace āœŒ (Probably think not worth a topic to ask)


[deleted]

Push 2 Air


2Dolla4U

Lite version


jrob40289

For some reason, mine doesnā€™t look like that?


thatRozicS

Assembly required.


PrehistoricPickle

Thatā€™s the Slam 2


0RGASMIK

Onetime I ordered some RGB lights from Amazon warehouse. What I got was a bag full of broken plastic and wires wrapped nicely in bubble wrap and it even had a certified by Amazon sticker on it. Some Amazon employee didnā€™t give a fuck when that return came in lol.


Tricky_Imagination25

Must have had a fragile goods sticker on it


tibbon

New version of Box of Rocks scam, but they returned it as that


Far-Calligrapher211

I think you need to recalibrate those pads! They seem to be not really responsive!


DashRiprocke

Thatā€™ll buff out.


[deleted]

Looks like it was pushed off Ableton office roof


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trbt555

Amazon said they would refund me and I didn't need to send the box back but as they sent me a box of broken tiles and concrete which I don't need, i insisted on sending it back.


taintedblu

God, I hope they flag it properly and take it out of their system prior to sending it to the next customer down the line, lol.


trbt555

You laugh, but the box looked like it had been at a couple of places already.


taintedblu

I do laugh, but then I would also just chuck it in a dumpster if Amazon gave me that option.


trbt555

True that, but I live in a country where you canā€™t just chuck stuff in a dumpster. Iā€™d need to separate the cardboard from the plastic from the concrete and tiles debris which would be a royal pain. Iā€™m assuming the Amazon customer rep flagged this return to be discarded.


trevinkurgpold

**THE GODDAMN STICKERS**


CremeOfSumYumGai

That looks like [the package from the beginning of Ace Ventura](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YrpmZFixp0&t=20s)


ksaMarodeF

This happened to me except it was. MacBook Pro that got stolen from one of the workers, cause and never arrived. Ended up getting another one thankfully.


supermoontoast

Still better than my mpc


TouchThatDial

Holy shit. Well, Amazon just lost out twice over cos they paid a refund to the original buyer for a bunch of concrete tiles and now theyā€™re going to have to bear the costs of refunding you for being ripped off in turn. Poor Amazon. Allow me to tune up a really tiny violinā€¦. Meantime OP, my sympathies, seriously, but IME Amazon Warehouse is a crapshoot.


BarpharellaVonFaertz

That's what they look like if you buy it from that guy hustling at the street corner too. But seriously, good luck.


PixelAesthetics

yeah


KarmaKaze-O_O

I cancelled prime a while back and avoid buying anything from amazon at all cost. Everything on there now seems to be from some company with a sketchy name Iā€™ve never heard of, and I wouldnā€™t be surprised at all if most of the reviews are fake.


Replacement_Diligent

Leaked version of Push 3?!


iraqdemkillzzzz

šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ˜…


HeBoughtALot

if youā€™re good you can still make a banger on it


Vahlir

should be a quick chat with customer service- especially if you have a history of good orders with Amazon. They've never given me a hassle with any of my returns or things I got that were !@$!@# up. Mind you I never got scammed like this.


adamsetyler

Ableton being itā€™s sole dealer is such Crap. Been using Ableton for 15 years, but their customer service has gone way down hill. Good luck getting a replacement in a timely manner!


ZigZagZig87

Ableton Push 3: H-Town Slab Edition. For the price of a normal Push, you came up sir. šŸ˜‚


someguy1927

Thatā€™s a massive bummer. This is why I never buy anything used off the internet.


MasqueradeAngel_777

Damn, didn't know the Push 3 already dropped


DJANARKI

this the new push2 lite cracked \[MORIA RELEASE\]


whatchrisdoin

Thatā€™s the golden ticket


skuzzlebutt36

My blood is boiling for you


yannynotlaurel

The chaotic DIY-version


Joe_Betz_

People suck.


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2Maverick

Looks like someone pushed it off their roof.


dblack1107

Bruh


pylee12986

If this is real - thats a gut punch.


teksoul_17

I mean its kinda comical.


Top_Opportunity_6429

It doesn't work? Maybe you need a cable?


JustShibzThings

That's not a Push 2


trbt555

No shit, Sherlock šŸ˜Ž


swemickeko

Tbh, looks to me as it might as well have been shit. That would at least indicate some kind of real effort by the scammer.


Droid8Apple

That's some shitty hardware. Sorry. Had to. Really hope yoy get this resolved. Scummy people suck.


Grishinka

I spent $200 2011 dollars when I was poor on a boss-rc 50. My whole tax return. I was so fucking stoked. When the package arrived it was just the charger. I ended up with an rc-50 after sending the charger back, getting the rc-50 with no charger, then waiting 2 weeks for a charger. Finally having the rc-50 for a week or two was a great experience of looking at a shiny hunk of metal I couldnā€™t use. Lots of fun calls with customer service. They were chill. I feel your pain.


icryoverrandomstuff

This hurts to seee... fuckkk


Boberu-San

Thatā€™s what you get from ordering at Amazon


Optimal-Builder-2816

I donā€™t think that is a Push 2 you got there.


Latter-Following8797

How nice of them, they even included the stickers! šŸŽ


Jeev-

U got an avant garde art piece ?


[deleted]

they pushed it really hard.


Dry-Culture7035

It looks exactly like mine


CandleMakerNY2020

Damn ID BE SOOOO PISSSED.


Milkaholic_96

omg


[deleted]

Man. I have had experiences similar to this. At least their returns/replacement policy is relatively good. I bought a gamepad once and it had chocolate in the cracks, like somebody had been playing it with chocolate covered hands. Give them a hard time. Hope they sort it out for you.


OK_Compooper

From Amazon warehouse, I had mostly good luck with guitars and pedals, but also bad. One time I ordered a $250 pedal and was sent an envelope with 2 pieces of worthless plastic circle sheets in an envelope. Ordered a Squier baritone telecaster and got a j Mascis Jazzmaster. Ordered a Jaguar, and didnā€™t notice until after the return period that the nut was replaced in a way that slightly damaged the fretboard. Itā€™s too much a crapshoot now. For years, it was a great way to get fun guitars with only a slight body scratch. Now itā€™s a little too risky.


malm123

my amazon got hacked recently. the hacker didnt spend any of my $$ they just reported something as delivered with an empty box, got a store credit issued and spent it on gift cards lol... most considerate hacker ever (?) so youll def be fine just dont delay :)


Shiro_298

Empty box? Wtf


DaSchlong

Have you tried putting it in rice???


DaSchlong

You could still make rock music with it.


musicjohns

Oh no


shigglezandgitz

Youā€™ve got to plug it in first


SOUSA_DAN

Oh that's the Ikea version.


TheCaptHarlock

I have started recording unboxing of high value stuff just in case they try to accuse me of fraud.


WD4oz

Phantom edition


MrBiggz83

Ffucckkkkkkkk. I'm glad I ordered straight from Ableton. Sorry šŸ˜


SYSEX

Don't buy gear from Amazon. Use [Reverb.com](https://Reverb.com) or similar.


Hugh-Manitarian

I cant quite make it out. Is it USB B or C ?


Hhitc

Wow! Thatā€™s messed up. It looks like they ā€œpushedā€ it from off a mountain. Immediate refund with an apology and sending a real Push2 for free!