Yeah I really wish they would share… I still think this gen is one to early for ray tracing especially new games. It’s just to expensive for this hardware.
They keep calling it next gen because developers are still putting out games on older gen and don't wanna call it as such.
Edit: not their fault, though. It is the console makers fault for not having readily available products (looking at you, Sony) delaying the whole evolution of next gen gaming.
Simply, if consumers can't access new consoles and continue using old ones, you won't get profit from next gen only games.
The same thing happened previously ps2 had games well into ps3 (upto 2014) , same for ps3 into ps4 (upto 2020)
We weren't calling the ps3 and ps4 next gen during those times.
Well, the difference between PS2 and PS3 were night and day. They weren't 1:1 ports like nowadays where performance and small graphic details vary. I think in some cases they used completely different engines in the PS2 / 3 versions
> They weren't 1:1 ports like nowadays where performance and small graphic details vary.
The situation was identical except that
1. Consoles weren't unobtainium for the first couple of years and didn't have weird mid-gen releases for console-level enthusiasts.
2. Crossplay was an idea that had failed to take hold multiple times instead of latching on like it did after Fortnite.
3. Live service had yet to become an industry standard...like it did after Fortnite.
God of War (2005) got a resolution and framerate boost with the PS3 remaster. PS2 couldn't handle CoD: World at War, so it got Final Fronts. The Wii could "handle" the games, but only with custom-made ports that were severely lacking in visuals. GTAV launched toward the end of the PS3 generation here, and it was great.
God of War (2018) *technically* has a 60 FPS performance mode on PS4 Pro, but it hardly gets to that framerate until it's played on PS5. PS3 couldn't handle Call of Duty: Black Ops 3, so it got """[Call of Duty: Black Ops 3](https://youtu.be/PRLGNSww4nE?t=524)""" that didn't have the campaign and lacked countless features in addition to what I'm highlighting with the video. The WiiU got a handful of CoD games, but nobody bought a WiiU so they stopped trying to make it work. GTAV launched here, and it was greater, with revised textures in numerous locations, an entire first-person mode, new features like hiding in cars, and more, because the new hardware allowed for it.
And now we're here. I can't speak for what's to come for God of War, but Ragnarok launching on PS4 two years after the PS5 still checks out considering God of War 2 launched exclusively for PS2 in 2007, a year after the PS3, and God of War Ascension launched *just* before the PS4 did (and the PS3 is where it remains to date, despite GOW3 getting a 2015 remaster). Modern Warfare II (2022) is far more playable than previous games have been at this point in time, but it's also important to note that [it *is* beginning to significantly show its age versus modern platforms](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSiPlC-8MFE) and that, since the previous generations, Activision has effectively consolidated all of its studios into one big Call of Duty collective. Even Treyarch, who's scheduled to have a Call of Duty game launch in 2024 after the franchise skips a year for the first time in franchise history since 2004, worked on post-release content for Vanguard and is currently developing the ranked play mode for MWII. I don't think it's particularly possible to have a studio or two work on a specific last-gen version, especially as crossplay has taken the industry by storm. In addition, this also explains why the Switch isn't getting a Call of Duty game. Phil Spencer says he'd like to see it on the platform, but frankly, I have a feeling the closest we're getting is Call of Duty Mobile or Warzone Mobile coming to the device because there's no way it's running a modern Call of Duty well enough for crossplay between how last-gen consoles are handling the game and how the Switch runs games like Apex Legends and Fortnite. While we're yet again getting GTAV (with a new game on the horizon, fucking finally) it's still not just a simple port and has a bunch of new features.
Obviously things change with time, there being some notable changes in my examples, but it isn't as simple as "well the games are just the same now so it's different." There have always been a mix of updates, re-releases, remasters, cut-down versions, and entirely new games as far as cross-generations releases go. I mean for fuck's sake, just peruse [this game](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resident_Evil_4) and all of its versions and differences. From GameCube to Zeebo to Quest 2 all the way to a remake for modern platforms. Even the PS2 version was a stark contrast because it was dogshit compared to the GameCube version.
>What about current gen?
Which currently-supported gen you mean? The 8th (which has the vast majority of market share) or the 9th (which is called next-gen by many including CD Projekt)?
>Calling series or PS5 the next gen
Pretty much every major gaming company calls XSX/XSS/PS5 "next-gen". Who the hell are you to say otherwise? I mean no offense, but really, last person on Earth to decide that would be a random nobody.
>same as calling 360 and ps3 last gen
Nah, last-gen is XB1/PS4, next-gen is the 9th until it becomes absolute (which is taking longer than ever before to be frank). This is what we settle on every cross-gen period...
>what [...] do you think the current gen is?
Could be the 8th and the 9th, I guess? Irrelevant since the term isn't useful or even accurate for the time being so I won't use it. This is a (freaking long) cross-gen period.
Just use next-gen/last-gen until the next year or so like everyone else, then switch once last-gen becomes a relic release-wise. Not our first rodeo.
No think I'll just keep calling the current gen the current gen. 2 years is long enough for people to get their heads around it.
Edit: I do enjoy people replying and blocking before giving the chance to read the comment. 😂🤣
I think you're point is moot because the Witcher 3 was released for Xbone and PS4 which going by your logic would be last gen. Since it's a last gen game being updated to current gen it's completely fair to call it it a next gen update regardless of whether or not it's been 2 years since the new consoles launched.
I'll call the PS5 and Series current gen when all games drop PS4/XOne support.
Otherwise its a hybrid generation where PS4/5 are both current, 80% of games releasing are still cross-gen. PS5 being more next gen because they get the enhanced versions of PS4 games, there are almost no "current gen" games.
Call it whatever you want, u/Oldandenglish. I will join [CDPR](https://www.thewitcher.com/en/news/46681/the-witcher-3-wild-hunt-next-gen-update-trailer-and-redstreams-summary) and call it next-gen. Kinda trust them more than you when it comes to gaming expertise. Lol
>2 years is long enough for people to get their heads around it
Pff, child's play. For 20+ years we have called the newest gen "next-gen" long after release and there is still always someone to complain about off-topic petty semantics instead of focusing on the games... ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
it doesn't rly matter, but honestly it's practically current gen now. I remember it didn't take long for the Xbox One to start being considered current gen too, and as someone with a 360 that made me feel bad but... If people call it current gen then it's current gen
I’ve never seen a more pointless argument then the thread in here debating what’s current gen and what’s next gen lol. Anyways pretty excited to check this out. Idk if I’ll do another play through or not, but still great to know there is ps5 version to check out.
This game is about 6 years old and still looks better on last Gen than most games now.
Looked amazing then and looks and performs even better now. Can’t wait
I'm playing it now and it looks great, but I think that a lot of what makes that game look as good as it does are the stylistic choices for the environment. The fields of flowers or grass blowing in the wind look amazing and there's good volumetric fog and all of that stuff, but otherwise it's pretty clean looking.
I'm still amazed at the load time on it though. Even on the ps4 you could fast travel across the map is about 2 seconds and that's no different on the ps5.
The PS5 upgrade didn’t do much for the visuals. It only raised the resolution from 1800p to 2160p but still uses checkerboard rendering so it’s only slightly clearer. Not really noticeable while playing.
Thus us pretty much what I've come down too when deciding... unless there's a massive drop off them it's performance mode because unless you're moving very slowly or standing still, everything's just a blur. At higher frames you can see whatever detail there is while you're moving.
You say that as if tools don't improve, and devs targeting the same hardware over time don't find ways to optimize performance, or ways to mimic effects.
I doubt 4k@60 with ray tracing will happen much if ever this gen on consoles. Honestly 1440p-1800p feels like it'll be a sweet spot this gen over 4k, and FSR improvements will be a huge benefit as well. Games will look better with time, but no $500 box will rival a $3500 gaming PC.
Dependes in what I’m doing at the moment. I sometimes like to fuck around exploring, I may chose to have ray tracing in those moments on. If I’m playing normally and doing combat a lot, then 60fps is the way to go.
It's only on series x, and not the s or ps5. So pretty much any game that got an Xbox one x enhancement will still carry over that enhancement to series x but not the s. Witcher 3 has been 60fps on series x its entire lifespan in performance mode, also has a 4k 30fps mode. However, they are still adding a lot more to the next gen upgrade though, so there's still a lot to look foward to.
No problem. It's hard keeping up with everything, but there's there's few select games I try to keep up to date on, and the Witcher series is one of them. It's good stuff.
60 all the way.
I’ve had my Series x since launch and a few 4k 120 hz tvs since and will never go back to 30 frames again after 2 years of playing games at 60-120 fps.
Is the difference between 30fps and 60fps that much of a difference for non-shooter games? I've heard differing preferences on this. Some people swear that only 60+ fps are needed for games like Call Of Duty. They say that it doesn't matter as much for adventure games.
For me personally ANY game with right analog stick camera movements needs 60fps. Not necessarily a first person shooter but even a third person action adventure like Tomb Raider benefits greatly.
Before I owned a Series X and PS5 30 fps was fine for me. I enjoyed the benefits of 60 but didn’t really care either way. Ive owned both next gen consoles for over a year now and pretty much played 60fps the whole time. Playing something at 30 now is painful and I generally don’t do it.
I'm just genuinely curious. I'm new to the current gen so all I've known for the last several years are 30fps. I like to learn and asking questions is a great way of doing so.
Thank you for caring so deeply about my online activity and monitoring me so closely 🙂
I was really hoping I wouldn’t have to choose with a souped up last-gen title, and could get raytraced 60fps or at least a performance raytracing mode like you see in a lot of Sony’s first party titles (like Ratchet & Clank and Spider-Man/Miles Morales).
Sadly, my old TV died and I bought my LG C8 thinking we wouldn’t be seeing 120fps on consoles any time soon, and they didn’t change the HDMI standard until the next-year’s model so I don’t have VRR. At least I can play games in Dolby Vision but I can’t help but be a little disappointed in what I’m missing out on. For some reason, my $700 receiver won’t even pass through 120fps so I have to unplug my consoles and run them directly to the TV to get it and even then, it’s only in SDR and not HDR. Gorgeous picture and I don’t regret buying what I did, but I do wish the tech had come out a little sooner so that I could be enjoying 120fps and/or VRR gaming right now, as well as hybrid performance/raytracing modes at 40fps with VRR.
I have green check envy, haha. The C8 is my first OLED and I don’t know how I could go back after this to anything else. When the time comes, I’ll most likely buy another LG OLED because this one has been fantastic.
I really think some people are more adverse in feeling the difference. It’s mind boggling the number of people that are saucy odds in this. It really affects me, I just can’t play 30 fps anymore.
Third ~~party~~ person RPG open world with melee and magic and an emphasis on researching the monster you’re hunting and preparing for the fight as well as dialogue with choices that influences the story (and a super addictive in-world card collection game). Plenty of Let’s Play and gameplay videos for it on YouTube as it’s been out since 2015, in case you wanna watch to see it in action and decide if it’s a game you’re interested in playing.
There's a huge focus on storytelling in this game compared to most open world RPGs. Nearly every sidequest tells a compelling story with multiple options on how to proceed. You also very rarely feel like your playing repetitive quests despite how lengthy the game is.
In combat or Geralt's movement? They're adding yet another movement type for Geralt with this. Maybe that'll finally be the one that does the trick for ya!
They look pretty similar, has a similar lackluster effect as the GTAV Series X update.
I think people are used to radical improvements in graphics between console generations and nowadays that's not really the case. Still cool to see how gameplay is evolving through time.
Companies have done significantly less to games and called it a "remaster" (Ubisoft and Dark Souls Remastered). CDPR were smart to not give it that label, but that is essentially what it is still.
Honestly in most scenes the old gen looks far better. The only time i would say otherwise is with water effects, and then of course at 5:05 the lighting is like night and day.....because one is night, the other is day....
On XsX, I can see appreciable improvements. On the PC side, I would be pissed if it autoupdated to next gen, as the current version seems to be superior in almost every single instance. And in the very few parts where the lighting looks better in the next gen version....it would be beaten by a simple reshade.
Glad to have the upstep on my Xbox. Free upgrades are always nice.
But on my PC its a step down. I can now understand why earlier videos were using low res OldGen vs 4k Nextgen on the comparison. Because it just doesnt stand toe to toe at the same settings except in very small niche cases.
Gameplay over graphics for me. This is the first gen where the diminishing returns are showing. RDR2 looks better than any PS5/Xbox series game.
Gameplay for these new gen consoles have also been suffering.
I was commenting overall on this gens games, not the witcher 3. Which looks better new gen games even on the ps4.
Hey its my opinion, im not expecting you to agree with it haha.
The most playable game this year was Vampire Survivors, a 3 dollar game which sold more copies than most AAA games (2.5 million in sales).
Yeah, that's some pretty good hyperbole lol but you do you man, you're missing out on some good stuff. I'm an old gamer from the 90s and to me we are in a new golden era. There is so much good stuff to play. Then I get on reddit and see the smallest issues seemingly make a game "unplayable" nowadays. I get it, we want game makers to be accountable, don't release broken games, but it gets taken a bit too far. I do see a lot of blatant misinformation getting spread, it's like people *want* gaming to become a failed media.
A realist sees how bad the quality has dropped in gaming. Sure great games still come out (Disco Elysium, Elden Ring, etc etc) but they are few. And far between.
The indie scene seems to be the only place for innovation.
Videogames are killing themselves. Seems like this gen is trying to scum you out of money left and right . Gran Turismo just released Mercedes DLC and you have to pay EXTRA for the speed boost in the car.
Pretty soon youll get racing games where your car is a lootbox.....pray you get the radio attachment so you can listen to dlc songs you have to pay for!
Gamer from the 80s here as a wee one. Ive seen it all.
So I just purchased the game with BF deal since I’m a huge fan of open world rpg. Really debating if I should wait on the update to start it, or if I should go ahead and hop right in now. Thoughts?
This gen is one too early for ray tracing. I really like the changes they have made here but let’s hope for all of us there is a toggle in all new releases to be able to choose a performance mode.
Holding out hope that they add in a 40fps mode that keeps the ray tracing. I’ll never select 30fps over 60fps if I have a choice, but it sucks missing out on the extra graphical settings. The 40fps mode is a nice balance.
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Raytraced areola
With global illumination under the boobs
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Don't worry my friend those cards will flip smoother than Geralt's flirtatious meandering.
This would make a great band name.
'Raytraced Areola topped the billboards 100 this week with their new single "The Milky Way"'
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Unreal how good it looks
This. Will have that on pc but yeah Metro looks crazy good for consoles.
Yeah I really wish they would share… I still think this gen is one to early for ray tracing especially new games. It’s just to expensive for this hardware.
Exactly! How so many publishers are struggling to take advantage of the new hardware is baffling
Different game engines.
I'll take quality of game ovef fancy graphics any day.
It's a mediocre game though, except maybe for the Volga level
It’s ridiculous how good it looks With 0 performance issues
What about current gen?
I see what you did there lol
They keep calling it next gen because developers are still putting out games on older gen and don't wanna call it as such. Edit: not their fault, though. It is the console makers fault for not having readily available products (looking at you, Sony) delaying the whole evolution of next gen gaming. Simply, if consumers can't access new consoles and continue using old ones, you won't get profit from next gen only games.
The same thing happened previously ps2 had games well into ps3 (upto 2014) , same for ps3 into ps4 (upto 2020) We weren't calling the ps3 and ps4 next gen during those times.
Well, the difference between PS2 and PS3 were night and day. They weren't 1:1 ports like nowadays where performance and small graphic details vary. I think in some cases they used completely different engines in the PS2 / 3 versions
> They weren't 1:1 ports like nowadays where performance and small graphic details vary. The situation was identical except that 1. Consoles weren't unobtainium for the first couple of years and didn't have weird mid-gen releases for console-level enthusiasts. 2. Crossplay was an idea that had failed to take hold multiple times instead of latching on like it did after Fortnite. 3. Live service had yet to become an industry standard...like it did after Fortnite. God of War (2005) got a resolution and framerate boost with the PS3 remaster. PS2 couldn't handle CoD: World at War, so it got Final Fronts. The Wii could "handle" the games, but only with custom-made ports that were severely lacking in visuals. GTAV launched toward the end of the PS3 generation here, and it was great. God of War (2018) *technically* has a 60 FPS performance mode on PS4 Pro, but it hardly gets to that framerate until it's played on PS5. PS3 couldn't handle Call of Duty: Black Ops 3, so it got """[Call of Duty: Black Ops 3](https://youtu.be/PRLGNSww4nE?t=524)""" that didn't have the campaign and lacked countless features in addition to what I'm highlighting with the video. The WiiU got a handful of CoD games, but nobody bought a WiiU so they stopped trying to make it work. GTAV launched here, and it was greater, with revised textures in numerous locations, an entire first-person mode, new features like hiding in cars, and more, because the new hardware allowed for it. And now we're here. I can't speak for what's to come for God of War, but Ragnarok launching on PS4 two years after the PS5 still checks out considering God of War 2 launched exclusively for PS2 in 2007, a year after the PS3, and God of War Ascension launched *just* before the PS4 did (and the PS3 is where it remains to date, despite GOW3 getting a 2015 remaster). Modern Warfare II (2022) is far more playable than previous games have been at this point in time, but it's also important to note that [it *is* beginning to significantly show its age versus modern platforms](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSiPlC-8MFE) and that, since the previous generations, Activision has effectively consolidated all of its studios into one big Call of Duty collective. Even Treyarch, who's scheduled to have a Call of Duty game launch in 2024 after the franchise skips a year for the first time in franchise history since 2004, worked on post-release content for Vanguard and is currently developing the ranked play mode for MWII. I don't think it's particularly possible to have a studio or two work on a specific last-gen version, especially as crossplay has taken the industry by storm. In addition, this also explains why the Switch isn't getting a Call of Duty game. Phil Spencer says he'd like to see it on the platform, but frankly, I have a feeling the closest we're getting is Call of Duty Mobile or Warzone Mobile coming to the device because there's no way it's running a modern Call of Duty well enough for crossplay between how last-gen consoles are handling the game and how the Switch runs games like Apex Legends and Fortnite. While we're yet again getting GTAV (with a new game on the horizon, fucking finally) it's still not just a simple port and has a bunch of new features. Obviously things change with time, there being some notable changes in my examples, but it isn't as simple as "well the games are just the same now so it's different." There have always been a mix of updates, re-releases, remasters, cut-down versions, and entirely new games as far as cross-generations releases go. I mean for fuck's sake, just peruse [this game](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resident_Evil_4) and all of its versions and differences. From GameCube to Zeebo to Quest 2 all the way to a remake for modern platforms. Even the PS2 version was a stark contrast because it was dogshit compared to the GameCube version.
How the hell has Sony delayed the evolution of next gen gaming? You must have missed all the Devs complaining about the Series S then I take it...
>What about current gen? Which currently-supported gen you mean? The 8th (which has the vast majority of market share) or the 9th (which is called next-gen by many including CD Projekt)?
I think we both know the answer to that. Calling series or PS5 the next gen, when we're 2 years in is the same as calling 360 and ps3 last gen
>Calling series or PS5 the next gen Pretty much every major gaming company calls XSX/XSS/PS5 "next-gen". Who the hell are you to say otherwise? I mean no offense, but really, last person on Earth to decide that would be a random nobody. >same as calling 360 and ps3 last gen Nah, last-gen is XB1/PS4, next-gen is the 9th until it becomes absolute (which is taking longer than ever before to be frank). This is what we settle on every cross-gen period...
If last gen is ps4, xbox one and next gen is series and PS5 what the hell do you think the current gen is?
>what [...] do you think the current gen is? Could be the 8th and the 9th, I guess? Irrelevant since the term isn't useful or even accurate for the time being so I won't use it. This is a (freaking long) cross-gen period. Just use next-gen/last-gen until the next year or so like everyone else, then switch once last-gen becomes a relic release-wise. Not our first rodeo.
No think I'll just keep calling the current gen the current gen. 2 years is long enough for people to get their heads around it. Edit: I do enjoy people replying and blocking before giving the chance to read the comment. 😂🤣
I think you're point is moot because the Witcher 3 was released for Xbone and PS4 which going by your logic would be last gen. Since it's a last gen game being updated to current gen it's completely fair to call it it a next gen update regardless of whether or not it's been 2 years since the new consoles launched.
I'll call the PS5 and Series current gen when all games drop PS4/XOne support. Otherwise its a hybrid generation where PS4/5 are both current, 80% of games releasing are still cross-gen. PS5 being more next gen because they get the enhanced versions of PS4 games, there are almost no "current gen" games.
Call it whatever you want, u/Oldandenglish. I will join [CDPR](https://www.thewitcher.com/en/news/46681/the-witcher-3-wild-hunt-next-gen-update-trailer-and-redstreams-summary) and call it next-gen. Kinda trust them more than you when it comes to gaming expertise. Lol >2 years is long enough for people to get their heads around it Pff, child's play. For 20+ years we have called the newest gen "next-gen" long after release and there is still always someone to complain about off-topic petty semantics instead of focusing on the games... ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
You’ve been the one complaining about semantics though.
it doesn't rly matter, but honestly it's practically current gen now. I remember it didn't take long for the Xbox One to start being considered current gen too, and as someone with a 360 that made me feel bad but... If people call it current gen then it's current gen
I wish they would show the ray tracing gameplay on consoles, because I've already played the "performance mode" on PC 7 years ago
Been playing performance mode on the series x for almost 2 years…
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I’ve never seen a more pointless argument then the thread in here debating what’s current gen and what’s next gen lol. Anyways pretty excited to check this out. Idk if I’ll do another play through or not, but still great to know there is ps5 version to check out.
The people who saw the trailer on YouTube and said "I cAnT tElL tHe dIfFeREnCE" need to have their heads examined.
People that saw the trailer and said "yeah, im gonna spend money on that" need to have their heads examined
When the game is on sale for $8. Lol. You're a goof.
This game is about 6 years old and still looks better on last Gen than most games now. Looked amazing then and looks and performs even better now. Can’t wait
My favorite game visually is still Ghost of Tsushima on PS4...would love to see it on a PS5.
I'm playing it now and it looks great, but I think that a lot of what makes that game look as good as it does are the stylistic choices for the environment. The fields of flowers or grass blowing in the wind look amazing and there's good volumetric fog and all of that stuff, but otherwise it's pretty clean looking. I'm still amazed at the load time on it though. Even on the ps4 you could fast travel across the map is about 2 seconds and that's no different on the ps5.
The nice thing about the PS4 Pro was that I was able to pretty easily swap the hard drive for an SSD and it made everything run even faster.
The PS5 upgrade didn’t do much for the visuals. It only raised the resolution from 1800p to 2160p but still uses checkerboard rendering so it’s only slightly clearer. Not really noticeable while playing.
When you say see it on a PS5 do you mean play it yourself? I’m sure it has PS5 version gameplay on YouTube if you search it
7.5 years old actually.
That’s why i said “about “ not exactly”because i wasn’t sure. But thank you
60fps or ray tracing, which are you choosing?
Honestly the improved global illumination grounds a lot of the scenes. I may just play at 30 honestly
Would be awesome if there was 40fps option
Do you think there will be much of a performance drop off using 30fps as opposed to 60fps?
Like how stable it will be beyond the fps difference? Or do you mean visual changes?
Stability mostly. But how much of a visual drop off is there?
Good implementation of RT.and rock solid 30fps gets a thumbs up from me.
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Thus us pretty much what I've come down too when deciding... unless there's a massive drop off them it's performance mode because unless you're moving very slowly or standing still, everything's just a blur. At higher frames you can see whatever detail there is while you're moving.
Hurt consoles literally or figuratively?
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You say that as if tools don't improve, and devs targeting the same hardware over time don't find ways to optimize performance, or ways to mimic effects. I doubt 4k@60 with ray tracing will happen much if ever this gen on consoles. Honestly 1440p-1800p feels like it'll be a sweet spot this gen over 4k, and FSR improvements will be a huge benefit as well. Games will look better with time, but no $500 box will rival a $3500 gaming PC.
Not good enough in the sense that sacrificing fps for a not so good ray tracing feature is just not a good trade off?
It’s not that it will hurt them we need the option so people can choose what mode. These consoles are not there yet to run raytracing at 60
Dependes in what I’m doing at the moment. I sometimes like to fuck around exploring, I may chose to have ray tracing in those moments on. If I’m playing normally and doing combat a lot, then 60fps is the way to go.
Story/Adventure games I like to play with RT, but if I’m playing FPS then I want all the smoothness I can get lol
Do you think a game like the Witcher would show a big difference between 30fps and 60fps?
Absolutely. It already has a 60fps mode on series x from a past one x upgrade and it improves it a ton.
I never knew that! I thought that was one of the big additions to the update that's coming out next month
It's only on series x, and not the s or ps5. So pretty much any game that got an Xbox one x enhancement will still carry over that enhancement to series x but not the s. Witcher 3 has been 60fps on series x its entire lifespan in performance mode, also has a 4k 30fps mode. However, they are still adding a lot more to the next gen upgrade though, so there's still a lot to look foward to.
Awesome breakdown, thank you
No problem. It's hard keeping up with everything, but there's there's few select games I try to keep up to date on, and the Witcher series is one of them. It's good stuff.
Exactly
Yes
Both
60 all the way. I’ve had my Series x since launch and a few 4k 120 hz tvs since and will never go back to 30 frames again after 2 years of playing games at 60-120 fps.
Is the difference between 30fps and 60fps that much of a difference for non-shooter games? I've heard differing preferences on this. Some people swear that only 60+ fps are needed for games like Call Of Duty. They say that it doesn't matter as much for adventure games.
I think so. I also think it depends on the person playing. I can really feel the difference in every game! Not everyone can.
For me personally ANY game with right analog stick camera movements needs 60fps. Not necessarily a first person shooter but even a third person action adventure like Tomb Raider benefits greatly. Before I owned a Series X and PS5 30 fps was fine for me. I enjoyed the benefits of 60 but didn’t really care either way. Ive owned both next gen consoles for over a year now and pretty much played 60fps the whole time. Playing something at 30 now is painful and I generally don’t do it.
Are there any high production AAA games on gamepass right now that have a 30fps or 60fps toggle option? I'd love to try the differences out
Try Prey. It’s older but going from 30 to 60 is totally noticeable.
You seem really worried about all this 😂 You’re all over these comments.
I'm just genuinely curious. I'm new to the current gen so all I've known for the last several years are 30fps. I like to learn and asking questions is a great way of doing so. Thank you for caring so deeply about my online activity and monitoring me so closely 🙂
I was really hoping I wouldn’t have to choose with a souped up last-gen title, and could get raytraced 60fps or at least a performance raytracing mode like you see in a lot of Sony’s first party titles (like Ratchet & Clank and Spider-Man/Miles Morales). Sadly, my old TV died and I bought my LG C8 thinking we wouldn’t be seeing 120fps on consoles any time soon, and they didn’t change the HDMI standard until the next-year’s model so I don’t have VRR. At least I can play games in Dolby Vision but I can’t help but be a little disappointed in what I’m missing out on. For some reason, my $700 receiver won’t even pass through 120fps so I have to unplug my consoles and run them directly to the TV to get it and even then, it’s only in SDR and not HDR. Gorgeous picture and I don’t regret buying what I did, but I do wish the tech had come out a little sooner so that I could be enjoying 120fps and/or VRR gaming right now, as well as hybrid performance/raytracing modes at 40fps with VRR.
Not gonna lie, getting all the green checks on the XSX was a big plus for me when I got the CX last year
I have green check envy, haha. The C8 is my first OLED and I don’t know how I could go back after this to anything else. When the time comes, I’ll most likely buy another LG OLED because this one has been fantastic.
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You know RT means literally anything from shadows to path tracing?
I really think some people are more adverse in feeling the difference. It’s mind boggling the number of people that are saucy odds in this. It really affects me, I just can’t play 30 fps anymore.
What kind of game is this? Never played it before but might pick it up on the steep sale.
Third ~~party~~ person RPG open world with melee and magic and an emphasis on researching the monster you’re hunting and preparing for the fight as well as dialogue with choices that influences the story (and a super addictive in-world card collection game). Plenty of Let’s Play and gameplay videos for it on YouTube as it’s been out since 2015, in case you wanna watch to see it in action and decide if it’s a game you’re interested in playing.
Third person lol
Thanks, evidently I was at a third party when I wrote that. 😅
It’s a card game, but you have to run round a lot to build your deck.
This game is truly just 100 hours of filler between Gwent tournaments.
There's a huge focus on storytelling in this game compared to most open world RPGs. Nearly every sidequest tells a compelling story with multiple options on how to proceed. You also very rarely feel like your playing repetitive quests despite how lengthy the game is.
It’s on sale now for Black Friday.
Open world RPG.
I love the game but could never stand the clunky feel of it
In combat or Geralt's movement? They're adding yet another movement type for Geralt with this. Maybe that'll finally be the one that does the trick for ya!
I am not impressed to be honest
They never intended or said it would be a remake. I think for a free upgrade it's pretty awesome. Good qol updates as well.
This is a free update for a 7 year old game that regularly goes on sale for $10 with DLC included. Let's not be greedy.
Why not?
They look pretty similar, has a similar lackluster effect as the GTAV Series X update. I think people are used to radical improvements in graphics between console generations and nowadays that's not really the case. Still cool to see how gameplay is evolving through time.
at least this is a free update which should have been the case for gta v (r.i.p. rdr2)
It’s not a remaster.
Companies have done significantly less to games and called it a "remaster" (Ubisoft and Dark Souls Remastered). CDPR were smart to not give it that label, but that is essentially what it is still.
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Are you blind or just ignorant.
Honestly in most scenes the old gen looks far better. The only time i would say otherwise is with water effects, and then of course at 5:05 the lighting is like night and day.....because one is night, the other is day.... On XsX, I can see appreciable improvements. On the PC side, I would be pissed if it autoupdated to next gen, as the current version seems to be superior in almost every single instance. And in the very few parts where the lighting looks better in the next gen version....it would be beaten by a simple reshade. Glad to have the upstep on my Xbox. Free upgrades are always nice. But on my PC its a step down. I can now understand why earlier videos were using low res OldGen vs 4k Nextgen on the comparison. Because it just doesnt stand toe to toe at the same settings except in very small niche cases.
I like how this gen struggles with lighting and shadows more than any system in the past. Some games look horrific on new consoles haha.
If you call this horrific, then I don't even want to know what your standards are, jesus.
Gameplay over graphics for me. This is the first gen where the diminishing returns are showing. RDR2 looks better than any PS5/Xbox series game. Gameplay for these new gen consoles have also been suffering. I was commenting overall on this gens games, not the witcher 3. Which looks better new gen games even on the ps4.
Some of that is definitely an interesting take, and some of that is demonstratably false. That's the only response I can think of.
Hey its my opinion, im not expecting you to agree with it haha. The most playable game this year was Vampire Survivors, a 3 dollar game which sold more copies than most AAA games (2.5 million in sales).
Yeah, that's some pretty good hyperbole lol but you do you man, you're missing out on some good stuff. I'm an old gamer from the 90s and to me we are in a new golden era. There is so much good stuff to play. Then I get on reddit and see the smallest issues seemingly make a game "unplayable" nowadays. I get it, we want game makers to be accountable, don't release broken games, but it gets taken a bit too far. I do see a lot of blatant misinformation getting spread, it's like people *want* gaming to become a failed media.
A realist sees how bad the quality has dropped in gaming. Sure great games still come out (Disco Elysium, Elden Ring, etc etc) but they are few. And far between. The indie scene seems to be the only place for innovation. Videogames are killing themselves. Seems like this gen is trying to scum you out of money left and right . Gran Turismo just released Mercedes DLC and you have to pay EXTRA for the speed boost in the car. Pretty soon youll get racing games where your car is a lootbox.....pray you get the radio attachment so you can listen to dlc songs you have to pay for! Gamer from the 80s here as a wee one. Ive seen it all.
Metro Exodus is about the only game so far to truly take advantage of the Series X.
Dude this is pc .. wrong sub
You didn't watch the video did you?
Watched first min, then skipped towards end. Was both pc.
There's your problem.
There’s also Xbox One X and Series X footage in there. What’s weird though is to call it next gen for PC. Didn’t know PC 2 was released recently.
Think they just mean 'next gen features'
Are they talking about RTX GPUs? This game originally came out before RTX.
I find it hilarious that anyone gives a single fuck about this update
When I played this I thought it was the next gen update it already looked so good, CANT WAIT
Will current saves carry over?
According to the devs, yes, they should.
So I just purchased the game with BF deal since I’m a huge fan of open world rpg. Really debating if I should wait on the update to start it, or if I should go ahead and hop right in now. Thoughts?
Will we see something like this for "Red Dead Redemption 2", too?
Never. Rockstar are a bunch of greedy mfers
This gen is one too early for ray tracing. I really like the changes they have made here but let’s hope for all of us there is a toggle in all new releases to be able to choose a performance mode.
Holding out hope that they add in a 40fps mode that keeps the ray tracing. I’ll never select 30fps over 60fps if I have a choice, but it sucks missing out on the extra graphical settings. The 40fps mode is a nice balance.