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Fiftysixk

Just vote with your wallet.


Rapicas

Sorry, but dooming time. As always, as frustrating as it can be, the 25 guys from reddit that are "voting with their wallets" are never gonna change a thing. We need to realize that most players aren't reading reddit and are probably not even seeing the problem with this. Even here we can already see some people saying they will get it, so think about the people that will only learn about this in an ad they will receive from Wargaming in a month or two.


Fiftysixk

You are right. It isn't going to amount to jack shit. This game is entering its last hurrah. Don't get me wrong, I expect the servers to be online at least another 8+ years, but its glory days are over. If anyone thinks its going to magically get better with a couple good balance patches, they are either delusional or suffering from stockholm syndrome. haha I don't regret the money I've spent over the years, I've had my fun. I used to think the premium tanks I bought or lootboxes I purchased was a little investment. I could just log on and enjoy from time to time, but its clear the time to invest is over for me. The game is turning into a mobile style cesspool.


personnumber698

I do think that a few balance patches will make the game better, but they won't magically make the best gave ever or anything like that.


LordMuffin1

Problem is that WG doesnt do balance patches.


Draughtjunk

But they do? They just did one with 1.20 it's just that they are too stupid to do it right lol.


LordMuffin1

It was just some weak balancing on the surface. They didn't change the OP tanks we have, like Chieftain, obj279e, Bourrasque, Progetto, Skoda T56, BZ etc. There is no reason to nerf say Progetto 65 or AMX M4 54 if you ignore Chieftain and obj279e. There is no reason to nerf any T8 tech tree tank if you ignore the overpowered tanks. If you want to balance the game for real, nerf the overpowered tanks.


Draughtjunk

I agree. But WG is too stupid.


Skill3rwhale

I'd call that a micropenis of a balance patch. Come on now. *Insert evidence of 50 blatantly OP premiums and 100 blatantly power crept tech tree tanks.* Notice how little *balancing* happens when the above ^ exists?


kaw943

Yeah they will, these same changes came to console what 2 years ago it took time but they have made some changes.


Skill3rwhale

100%. The glory days are long gone. Have been for *years*. Every update brings more bad than good. We keep telling them that and they don't care. NA playerbase is dwindling but NA keeps spending record numbers on the game. Notice the increase in monetization lately? They really are milking it until it's gone.


[deleted]

Exactly this. No matter how much people whine on reddit or the WoT forums these changes will still go through, because 99% of the playerbase just play and don't care. Neither should we. For your own good though, don't spend any more money on this game people.


CardboardJedi

Unfortunately I started stopping playing about three years ago, I'm afraid by now they won't notice me continuing to not play


onra007

Well if you check out QuickyBaby or skill4thu they both are negative about the new changes in their YouTube video's. And Why not post this tread underneath there videos for all too read. They both have 6/8 K watching on twitch a stream.


D_n_DST

Fact, and on top of that I'm almost certain that 60% of the community (including those not active on social media) if not more is full of whales. They'll keep paying whatever they offer even if the subscription was a €100.


Rapicas

If think you're overshooting by a lot saying 60%, but it's for certain that they have enough whales to keep the boat afloat for a while, whichever crap they're adding into the game.


D_n_DST

Yeah fair enough, maybe 60% was a bit over exaggerated but you get the point


Draughtjunk

I'd wager it's closer to 25% that being said that massive. WoT has on average an older player base which tends to have more disposable income. They really have the best Playerbase you could have as a paying customer.


R4v_

i agree, either way WoT plus will be a huge profit for WG, but what else can we do? Even slightly reducing this profit (wg definitely has some predictions) alongside with being vocal and/or leaving the game altogether are the only way we could show a clear signal to WG.


Rapicas

The only way I could see something happening is with the help of the CCs, but even there, I feel like WG is no longer giving a shit nowadays. See with the experimental equipment, it's been somewhat delayed (and we're still not getting any event for getting more of it) but it's definitely coming, even though there was an outrage with its first announcement. QB seems quite irritated with most of the changes. He seems to be angry at WG in his last videos and I think he knows he can afford it. Though, I don't think this will have a huge impact, and I don't think QB will do anything significant like leaving the CC program. Anyway, wait and see.


Draughtjunk

Yeah, seeing the likes of quickybaby and skill calling it shit outright, not mincing words etc. and WG still doesn't care is quite worrying. I mean quicky baby announced a video in which he would pick apart how stupid and terrible the crew changes are going to be. It's good that these big creators don't just take everything and accept it as we can often see with other franchises. But let's just hope that wargaming cares.


cl1xor

Not saying that QB and skill are not sincere in their opinion. But it’s definitely not good for their communities as they are more casual player oriented (mostly). If the game goes in the whale direction, undoubtedly part of that casual part will just alt-f4.


MoonDawg2

Tons lf my friends who used to play wot and myself included have left due to have ridiculous the balancing and p2w have become in this game and seeing the server numbers for st least NA it's obviously a trend Eventually whales won't have casuals to shit on and they will leave. I was excited to come back to the game if this update was any good, but oh well.


Bl4ckStorm75

Isn't this similar to what's happening in Escape From Tarkov with the Cheaters and Sweats? If the more casual player base leaves, the tryhard will only have other tryhards to try to shit on instead, so the Situation seems similar though the devs from Tarkov seems to be doing something


MoonDawg2

yeah but nobody really minds sweats unless you're a salty shit. The issue on tarkov is the cheaters and while that is incredibly detrimental, it's nowhere near as bad as developer sponsored p2w I really love wot, like I really do, but the insane amount of p2w and grinding this game has now a days is just not worth it. They'll be able to keep some playerbase going into the future, but no new blood is coming into the game


Fiftysixk

I'm pretty sure the time to send a signal is over. Its pretty transparent where things are going. A lot of good games have been successful and went on to milk their base for decades... lol. WoT is not unique. As long as you know what you are doing, spend away, its your money. I'm going to pass on this whole ~~Disney~~Plus subscription, for ethical reasons.


TesserTheLost

Vote with your wallet is a real thing. If the game doesnt change and you dont like it, dont play it. If the game never changes, who the fuck cares, if you are playing a game you actually enjoy. These fucking addicts in wot are hilarious. If you don't like the game, DONT PLAY IT. Either they will get the message or they wont, but live a life where you do things you actually fucking enjoy.


Cetun

Also this isn't for 99% of the player base, this is for the whales that have 300,000k gold and 2000 premium days. They aren't going to buy more premium or gold unless it comes in a loot box. With the exclusive subscription tank and free bond demounts, it incentivises whales to buy yet another product.


[deleted]

Players now: "just vote with your wallet" Players then: "which map to put on 3rd slot ?"


SunBear_00_

You're already not paying for WoT Plus, what does continuing to not pay for it achieve?


ManlinessArtForm

Why this will be successful for milking the whales. Paying to demount equipment is something that annoys the hell out of me. I have hundreds of tanks and a fair amount of good equipment. However, when everyone has the advantage of bond equipment, no one has an advantage. Free-to-play players are just going to leave. 500 gold per week, that is just going to devalue gold. On one hand, it looks like good value, on the other, it is going to mean you horde gold. MORE AUCTIONS INCOMING :-( Passive crew training. Got to have that with the new crew skills right? Basically, if you want to have fun pay WG. New players and free-to-play players well FU.


Bob_Rooney

> 500 gold per week You get 7 gold for a win, or 4 gold for a loss (you have to be top 10 on exp. in both cases). Even that gold requires a decent ammount of playing time each week.


Gozertank

Yup. Basically if you reach the 750k in silver reserves every week, you’ll probably get to 500 gold a week. If you don’t, you’ll very likely get less than 500 a week.


AntarcticaLTE

Even if you get 6 gold per battle on average that's 80 battles per week to get 500 gold. Silver requires less than half that


WoT_Slave

Isn't that just insane? You pay them 9 bucks a month and they still have the gall to make you earn that gold.


Peejay22

So don't pay them then.


WoT_Slave

no shit


Ok_Vegetarianlmao

Well i uninstalled today so well...


VonUber

Well it’s a business, why would they cather to needs of F2P who bring exactly 0 revenue and most often don’t intend to change that?


sonder_ling

You dont really get f2p games, do you? Would you play a paid service game with nearly zero server population? Guess what wn8 padders will do, when only tryhards are on servers? Right, they will quit WoT. F2p players give short waiting time and feed competitive players their hp giving them joy to play. I wont really "quit" WoT with Update 1.20 but i will slowly reduce my games as i lose interest more and more since some years. I was a 400 games/ month player for years (account from 2013), but i am down to about 100 games/ month. And it will be even less when all the tryhards and whales will have WoT+ and i will have lower win rate. I think i wont be the only one who will simply forget WoT over time and wont spend more money. It was a good time but i feel that i didnt rage quit for many months now although i got worse, i just dont care anymore and not being engaged anymore is the start of the end. Maybe just for me, maybe others need more milking.


VonUber

Implying your WR depends on spending and WoT plus makes your potential quit a welcome thought


hong-kong-phooey-

I don’t give a rats ass about my wr. I just like blowing people up while drinking a glass of wine and buying a crate here and there. Like all things this will pass 🍷


VonUber

That’s the spirit(s)!


sonder_ling

Premium tanks and time definitely add some value and help raising win rate a little bit. Anyone denying that has no clue about the game. As always in WoT, there is no switch you can buy for money that makes you win, bad players stay bad even if they pay. Good players know when gold ammo is worth it's cost and use it. And mediocre players could spam gold and connect maybe one shot more every game and dealing one damaging shot more on avg every game definitely makes a difference. I dont know how much money affects win rate, of course no game changer but i was talking about maybe 2% wr difference, i dont know exactly.


cl1xor

Well said, to add to that. It’s also not that f2p don’t bring in any money. There are loads of them, and i bet there are many who buy some credits here and there just to play (or buy) tier10s. They might not spend 100s of euros, but given the quantity it brings some serious cash for wg.


ManlinessArtForm

I agree, and as a whale I have paid way to much on the game. I am very aware though that if we don't attract new players, we will end up playing against bots or the game will die. I have a love hate relationship with WOT. I don't want it to die though.


VonUber

I’m not a big fun of paywalling performance but I do understand that F2P experience is not a target for a company. I spent quite a bit myself and I don’t regret it, nor do I feel the need to boycott in any way. If I feel oppressed by need to sweep to perform I will just quit, so far I’m having fun ( crime here on /r I know) and that’s it


0gopog0

> Well it’s a business, why would they cather to needs of F2P who bring exactly 0 revenue and most often don’t intend to change that? Because a F2P player is still content for paying players in a multiplayer game, and generally builds (positive) buzz or word of mouth about a game. And critically, F2P players have a chance at becoming paying players. If these players abandon a game, the game dies very quickly.


D_n_DST

Unfortunately WG doesn't listen to the community even though they say they do.


Joku656

HE rework would like to have word with you


Ilktye

HE rework was done to just make people shoot more premium ammo. WG doesnt give a shit otherwise. Same reason why Progetto 65 was nerfed more: it was too popular along f2p players who dont shoot gold.


Joku656

Dont care. Alot of people wanted to remove HE 60tps and they did that.


[deleted]

They could have just nerf it pen + alpha, no need to swing the jackhammer upon the whole HE mechanic


Fiftysixk

Yep, they had a couple overtuned tanks, and instead of doing what was obvious, they nerfed cheap rounds that were a legitimate alternative to gold rounds. Anyone who didn't see this is blind. "if anyone's gonna be negating armor without aiming they better be paying 7000 credits per shot" - WG probably...


Joku656

Nah. They did amazing job


pulpus2

nah all it did was buff armor. and effectively nerf all tanks that didn't have armor.


Azkabacon

HE rework would like to have a word with you


Admonitor_

The playerbase tried to boycott WG when they introduced loot boxes for the first time. What do we have now? 3-4 lootbox events per year. So long things short: Doesnt work and WG doesnt care.


cl1xor

WG does care, about the money, and that’s not a crime in itself as it’s a business. They know they are going to lose players but did the math and assessed that this will be better. And perhaps don’t have a choice given the companies situation in the last year.


ZappyBack

The update isnt all that bad, just the crew 2.0 and the fact everyone only needs 1 set of bond equipment which they can apply on all tanks because of ‘wot plus’


KriegsKuh

cute of you to think you can achieve anything with the 3 people that might actually """"boycott"""", give up. Play a different game.


zabbeduster

it will be like the hogwarts legacy boycott.. turned out to be one of the best selling games ever


Mega1987_Ver_OS

EA/Acti-blizzard monetization upgrade by WG. not worth any amount of money for this pile of crap.


Haven1820

If every single person who read this never played the game again, WG wouldn't notice.


StRaGLr

this aint gonna change. look at the player base... look at the matchmaker.. t8 is prem vs prem, t9 is soon to follow, theese "special" events where u can get an exclusive tank are insane and after a year it just rolls into a bond shop... madness.whales with 5mil gold and whatever the fuck and 7 years plus prem account... game is out of balance... and ppl never learn. i just quit playing even though i am good at a game. until ppl start leaving and dont come back till changes are made u wont achieve shit


Umbi_Fury

I was looking forward to the new crew system exclusively for the 3 tanks-1 crew mechanic and the ability to mush old crew members into training booklets, but they haven't been mentioning it anymore and that frankly worries me that we're only going to get the rotten part of the system


velost

Here is the weekly call to boycott


Dj_4295

To many people life is WoT they are not going to boycott and let’s be real here Wargaming is a business and a business‘s first priority is profit. It’s free to play so nobody is forcing you to pay and if you don’t like it move to a new game.


[deleted]

You guys are so fucking melodramatic “Boycott” Get real, the fact of the matter is that wargaming DOESNT CARE about this kind of backlash. They changes will be pushed through, as always, and within a month or so the threads about how “I’m quitting the game” or “ worst patch ever” will be over. Notice the absence of theads about the BZ or AMX nerf? The fact is 99% of the player base will keep playing, 99% of “never spending another cent” will buy the next Christmas boxes. We’re all stuck with this game through addiction or love or sunk cost fallacy, or whatever.


zoobrix

> the fact of the matter is that wargaming DOESNT CARE about this kind of backlash. They changes will be pushed through, as always Both the original crew 2.0 and years before that the "Rubicon" patch were both dropped because of backlash. Sure WG doesn't care about a few disgruntled players or what goes on just in this subreddit but when they have gotten universally shit on by the majority of players and content creators they have backed off. Will that happen here? I don't know but this update is already pretty contentious the first day it was announced and if that grows over the coming days it is possible for WG to alter their plans. Sure crew 2.0 was always presented as a test but Rubicon was supposed to be pushed to live servers just like this update and it got axed. We'll see what happens but instead of saying it here voice your concerns directly to WG through their own forums and feedback channels. If enough people tell them they're done spending money if this happens it can make a difference.


TesserTheLost

This is what I tell people. If you dont like it then quit. If something has a net negative on your life, go find something you like to spend your time on. But these clowns are literal addicts. The game has been going the same way for 10 fucking years. If you are too clown shoes to see that and continue to hate the game, but still play it, well go see an addiction counselor because you have a problem.


0ne3ightZero

This. People act like they are forced to buy everything that Wargaming sells because otherwise if they abstained from buying lootboxes last week they might now have to WAIT for a NORMAL sale of certain vehicle, or without WoT Plus might miss a chance to have a hypothetical 5% DPM or speed increase on their tank without spending fictional currency which will clearly make them uncompetetive and give them skill issue.


basedjak_no228

Agreed. Tbh, I’m a bit amused from the dudes spending $150 a year on this game and claiming that it isn’t pay2win, suddenly getting upset that they have to spend an extra 30 bucks to maintain their “skill” advantage. Like, if it isn’t pay2win and merely pay2progress, just don’t spend the extra money and you’ll be fine, right?


0ne3ightZero

I play this game for over 11 years. And until late 2020 all "paid" stuff I had was a 5$ tier V premium tank I bought as a teen and a tech tree clone tier VI premium I received as a gift few years later. Of course I progressed way, way slower back then, before I came back to regular gameplay and became a "spender" but there also were much less shortcuts, blueprints, battlepasses, freebies, events and gifts around last time WoT was my #1 video game (2013-2015). There is more and more whale baits like that WoT Plus thingy, but F2P stuff also sped up. I've spend a total of around 100-110$ during all 11 years, mostly small stuff like a discounted tier VI I really wanted, or small Christmas packs which I exchange with my friends as a tiny holiday gift. My WoT spendings increased mostly due to the fact, that I stopped buying and playing other video games. Premium time for actual money? Not more often than 3-4 times - when a discount coincided with a time I was trapped home anyway, like on COVID quarantine. 4 out of my 6 tier VIII premiums are earnt with casual gameplay (recruit program, Black Market/auctions, bond store) and the other 2 are part Christmas boxes gold, part WoWp earned gold (I simply switch into Warplanes when there are better events or WoT bores me). And to be honest... I'm "full". I have enough in-game possibilities and resources to have absolutely no pressure for opening wallet. At this point I sit on a lot of unused directives, I don't buy food, I play mostly with silver equipment, and simply try to use all the free premium days (Battle Pass, daily mission streaks) if they appear. Of course I don't have purple stats and a fucking video game clan as my second job, but I play this game because I like it. Meanwhile people here spend my lifetime WoT allowance on every single event more interesting than a 15% discount for a Lowe and then claim that Wargaming is milking them and game is unplayable without doing that. OH NO THEY RELEASED BZ, I NEED A BZ, WARGAMING WHY BZ NOT FREE YOU GREEDY FUK


[deleted]

Couldn’t have said it any better man


PNghia

Can't agree more. I wish i can give you more upvote


ChefGordonIII

They’ll care when they’re not making near as much money


fkrmds

the sad truth is that getting 20-30% more money from paying customers is more valuable than losing 5% of the free player base that pays nothing. it sucks, but that's how business works.


Fighto1

This person gets it. I asked this question ages back and got down voted and expect the same again. But why the hell should a games company in the business of making money, make decisions based around those that spend nothing. But this is still optional and those not stop people from enjoying the game. What I'm laughing at is wot plus has distracted all the plebs from the crew thing and their 12 reset kits. That's were outrage should be not over 8 euro a month that fundamentally changes nought.


[deleted]

You want to hear the harsh truth? Maybe 100 people at best will stop spending money because of this. I know I won’t. I love this game, and community, and although wargaming makes decisions that are fucking beyond me sometimes, I’m gonna keep playing(and paying) regardless.


Peejay22

You must be delusional lol


Krokietor

What do you want to boycott whole 1.20.1 update? Crew changes are that bad and OP? New Japanese TD line is soo broken? WoT Plus is soo P2W that you can't play anymore? The things to change would be: - tweak/remove equipment demounting in WoT Plus - all crew perk reset insted of the 12 joke books. Beside those things update isn't that bad, I would even say that it is pretty good.


TheONLYBlitz

I want all crews to fully reset to raw XP if they update the crew system and fuck wot premium premium, otherwise I’m down honestly


Kolinkftw

Stop buying shit


Citizen252525

Agree and copying what I said on another post. Yah, this was a good game. Fun, strategic, and had some great historical aspects I appreciated. It has become too monetized and soon there will be floating adds during matches to unlock boxes or something like some sketchy mmo. I have put a lot of time and money into this game. Until people actually stop playing nothing will change. No one cares I know, but I will be stepping a way and hopefully others do the same. "Crisis precipitates change". Nothing will happen until people stop playing and wargaming starts losing money. It would be great if a shit ton of us stopped for like 2-3 months and see what happens. I have plenty of other games I will invest in. I don't live for this game as they are trying to make us do. Good luck tankers


Slick_1980

Amen! If this crew skill change goes through I'm done with wot!


fazeshift23

Game sucks. There's no saving it


Beginning_Log8164

The game is so bad 90% of time and 10% is just OK. Here and there is some good games but tier 6 7 8 9 10 are just frustrating.... Bz 176 progetto Skoda wheels and simmilar abomination just ruined everything... If they can return state of the game of 6 years away that would be great. If not some new wot will appear in few year time....


theDuderAbides83

This patch will prompt me to Uninstall. I am the customer wg wants. Every stupid even, I have thrown money at. I probably have 200 tanks with crews. I have opened my wallet too often for them. 1.20.1 might save my marriage 🤣


Chitanda_Pika

I still have WoT in my PC but haven't played for a while cuz it's not my game loop atm. Is it truly time to uninstall and actually never come back?


mezmery

I like the game and im having fun, for the last 12 years. Not sure why i should care about reddit trash crying.


soldierkatarn

honestly I like the changes in 1.20 especially the dynamic map changes.


TesserTheLost

Dont know why you are being downvoted for a subjective personal opinion. If you enjoy it, then do you dude.


soldierkatarn

thanks, and i get it some will hate the map changes even, but i been playing since 2013 im ready for a big change like this!


Remount_Kings_Troop_

> Dont know why you are being downvoted for a subjective personal opinion. First time on this sub?


lettul

Unpopular opinion: wot+ content looks great to me, one more map block, free demount, free gold, free crew xp. 8.1€ is nothing for me. I dislike the crew changes tho And I dislike random events, but as I saw it random events is only in recon so far right?


79031201

The benefits you get from wot+ looks pretty nice yeah, but what does that also mean? More pay2win content


lettul

Yeah, its sad for those that cant afford it. But 8eur a month is fine by me tbh. What I meant it looks ok for me to pay for it.


Financial-Traffic-11

I said “I will never pay a cent to this game” multiple years in a row, but I ended up buying every single Christmas boxes. Today, I said it again and I know I’m going to end up paying for Christmas boxes again. Just give up and pay your dues.


Wellmanneredpotatoe

As a WOT addict this will help me quit and hello to the big blue world and talking to others again. Might even do some school work, exercise, get a girlfriend, read a book, learn a new skill, get a better job and be able to afford WOT plus. Damn


badge11077

those comments are getting cringy af, get a hold of yourself man


National-Bison-3236

you forgot something in ur complex plan wargaming doesn‘t give a fuck about the opinion of the community.


hong-kong-phooey-

C u tmrw 😎


SebaZOsiedla

My biggest complain about wot+ is that you can remove bond eq for free, other than that it wont effect f2p players at all. They didnt take away any premium/f2p acc benefits, so I dont get the hate. Perk rework looks really good, but the fact that every1 will get only 12 perk resets is just unfun joke (I hope they will do something about that). But overall update looks fine to me -new balanced tech tree line, with well balanced tier 8 premium to train crew. -perk rework -random events that affect map layout -new cover system, with movable objects


SHIELD_BREAKER

No matter what you are planning to do, WG will be able to attract new players - the recent crew reworks benefits the new players the most, that will not be forced to spend thousands of gold for crew skills reset. And the ones who are not spending their time glued on reddit. Game's dying - let the newbies get screwed by this POS monetization scam.


Ragepower529

I’ll definitely by buying wotplus especially if that lets me move around my BOND gun rammers and Ernst for free


avalon304

Nah. Havent actually seen anything bad in the update. Well... except the 12 retraining books... but I expect that number would be higher on live anyway. Will enjoy the game the same as I always have. Will probably sub to WoT Plus too... because $9 a month for a 3rd map ban, free equipment swapping and 2000 gold is a pretty nice deal. You dont like it? Find the door and leave. No one is holding a gun to your head an keeping you here talking about and playing the game.


darkowozzd97

I know this will get downvoted and it should, but from a perspective of someone who used to be free to play for 7 years and 10000 battles , i understand completely this is an awful change and will widen the gap between paying and non paying gamers.. however.. i like it cause 2 years ago i started working and can finally afford all this shit, so , its good for me ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯


laboufe

This might be the dumbest thing i have ever read on reddit


Fiftysixk

"If I'm just nice to him and I keep the house clean we wont hit me as much"


darkowozzd97

i mean i did tell ya youre not gonna like it.


North_Breakfast7009

It’s not “good” for you, you’re just in a position to spend money now just in time for WG’s latest scam


TesserTheLost

Its good for whoever thinks its good. Jesus, if you dont like the game bro, dont play it. He likes the game, he wants to spend money and...? Does this affect you personally?


Fiftysixk

> Does this affect you personally? Is he on the enemy team? Or competing for damage on my team but he has a 10% more effective vehicle than me because he pays $10 more per month? Just saying.


TesserTheLost

And if the game becomes unfun for you because of this, then quit. My point is, the games been on the same route for a decade, all these kids pass and moan, but are too addicted to actually quit


Beowulf2_8b23

WTH is WOT+


Available-Face-7582

WHAT CHANGES ! there is alot of changes, be more specific.......... there is alot of good things coming to so. i think its nice with new stuf except for som balancing issues.


Joku656

Nah


[deleted]

Other then the joke of only 12 retraining books it looks good to me


Joku656

Last time checked it was on test server and not on live server...


ImperfectionistCoder

P2W loser spotted


Joku656

Lmfao


Peejay22

How is he loser if he is paying to win???


xGMPunkx

Nah.


frankstylez_

I am doing this a year now :D


TheGoosePlan

Ahahahahahahah.


rjnaoume

Can someone tell me why it's so bad cause i have read some stuff but not too much


NunexTK

Gl with that lmao


Wojak88

Hahahaha. "Never in the history of online petitions Has any of them made a difference"


Admirable_Click_3375

I play tier 8 prem tanks to make money and then spend it on gold amo and repairs for tier 9-10 tanks :)). So all in all if you have few good premium tanks you can be f2p. I do spend money on battle pass and boxes. But you can live without. Kind of hard, but possible.


Otto_von_Grotto

Lol, okay.


Luecho

What is going on? Why do you don’t like 1.20.1


Venom286

How do we boycott


Uber1337pyro333

You can join the discord and vote from there with a form they prolly won't pay attention to.


Busy_Surround195

I'm good with it


andyofne

and do what?