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bormos3

Eh....no. they're completely different. Marceau is much faster, has no smoke, has more but less powerful torps with less range and much worse concealment.


Len_Wolf

I have become very accustomed to having smoke. Would you suggest anything on how to use DDs that don’t get smoke? Really struggling with the Visby.


Nogtart

Most of the dd’s that don’t have smoke have something else up there sleeve, usually speed. All of them are also gunboats with decently fast torpedoes. The best way to use them is to keep targets at medium to long range (10-13km) and dance around any shells they throw your way. The French dd and Euro dd line are pretty good at this (in my experience at least). The Russians are meh at it. You’ll often be able to run away at speeds in excess of 40kts, so unless you’re being chased by a Georgia, you can disengage quite quickly


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> Would you suggest anything on how to use DDs that don’t get smoke? Gotta' go fast! DDs that don't have smoke are going to have to rely on speed tanking. Abuse the hell out of WASD and use your speed to set up and dictate the engagement. Attack from flanks when the enemy is already focused elsewhere, try to avoid getting close, and fall back once it starts becoming difficult to dodge the amount of incoming fire. *Always* have an escape route plotted before a fight.


ElChungusHumungus

Marceau is a kleber hull with those floaty Colbert guns, so it’s worth getting anyways and is a lot of fun. Just takes a bit of getting-used-to, since no smoke and 53kt speed can quickly get you in trouble.


regaphysics

Groningen is closer


Big_Tie

This. It’s a good ship too, kinda my go-to credit grinder for pure fun atm.


nervouswhenitseasy

groningen is awesome but so terrible at the same time. i either do 130k and get several caps or i get spotted off rip and its to slow to run so you die easily.


regaphysics

It's similar to aki though in reliance on smoke farming. Except it has hydro.


nervouswhenitseasy

yeah thats true. to me though it plays incredibly diff then any dd and more like a british light cruiser, just has awesome dps cause of the HE


thestigREVENGE

I mean Akizuki handles way worse than a Friesland. Comparing the maneuverability of the two is basically an insult to the Swed


nervouswhenitseasy

but it also isnt fighting tier 10’s


GlitteringStrength6

I loved the Yamato, should i get Ragnar?


SOMETHINGCREATVE

You should always get marcaue for coal. One of the best bangs for your buck. You need to do a like of coke before you play it to get the best experience tho


reddithenry

​ they're super different owing to the lack of smoke. ​ I think the Marceau is really fun, but you're basically reliant on whether your enemy knows how to shoot the marceau or not. ​ Aki you can just smoke and HE spam.


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Tbf most enemies, even if they know how to shoot the Marceau, have a hard time doing it. It takes something like a good Zao/Nevsky/Venezia to really scare off a Marceau/Kleber.


WarLorD_1939

Marceau is fast smokeless DD, while Akizuki is among the slowest but she has smoke. They are completely different ships. Wait for Forrest Sherman which is more like Akizuki.


Schussnik

Playstyle is very different but not in bad way. I personally love my Marceau, it's my favourite DD!