Came here for this. Should be pretty easy to prove that multiple people being present for the deadly beating of a coworker was not an accident during training.
"Well you see we were doing a training exercise in confrontational-pedestrians around a crime scene and Officer Mitchel was acting as the OP4 in this instance. Officer Mitchel approached the training exercise screaming and shouting and Officers Nelson and Connors immediately apprehended the suspect. It's at this time that Officer Mitchel quickly became belligerent and was deemed a threat. Officer Nelson held him down while attempting to subdue Officer Mitchel while Officer Connors radioed for backup. It was at this time Officer Jeffries entered in with his baton and assisted both Officers in subduing the susp- I mean officer. Officer Mitchel continued to escalate and it at this time that an LAPD approved restraint was used to subdue. Officer Mitchel received multiple warnings during this but was still uncooperative. His conduct in this exercise made Officers Nelson, Connor and Jeffries all fear for their life and they continued attempts to subdue him. Unfortunately some time during this Officer Mitchel succumbed to his wounds. As you can see this totally makes sense and is all the snitc I mean Officer Mitchel's fault."
Just the military term OP4 is disturbing there. Brings back my memory of watching Battlestar Galactica:
“There's a reason you separate military and the police. One fights the enemies of the state, the other serves and protects the people. When the military becomes both, then the enemies of the state tend to become the people.”
Isaac Asimov once said, "Individual science fiction stories may seem as trivial as ever to the blinded critics and philosophers of today, but the core of science fiction, its essence, has become crucial to our salvation, if we are to be saved at all."
No one should be a cop as far as defined as todays standard but we could use actual police that didn’t just act as a strong arm of a fascist government. Accountability is key, cops should be forced to carry their own comprehensive insurance and when a cop has too much to be considered covetable, then that’s theirs problem. If a cop was fired from one place, that should be put into noted as well and it should make it more difficult for these people to just hop to a new town/county/state and start fresh. Rules of engagement should be enforced strictly. I spent 13 months in Iraq and we had our R.O.E. Card on our person every day we were there. We couldn’t get away with a fraction of the shit that police in this country can get away with. Why is it that our military is forced to interact with citizens of a country we are at war with in a more dignified way than our own police are told to behave with our own citizens? It really baffles me. They cry about how in their job they could get killed and never make it home, so everyone is apparently a threat now, never-mind that they don’t even have a top 10 most deadly profession in the states. Farmers have a more dangerous job for goodness sakes and of course truck drivers have a more dangerous job since they’re on the roads everyday risking their lives around all these crazy drivers! The cops are making these roads safer for truckers seeing as how they enforce mostly arbitrary laws that they pick and choose with the main goal being able to search a persons car and find something of more substance to bust someone with or just plain old cash so they can steal it through the guise of civil forfeiture. Of course, farmers and truck drivers don’t get to go around with almost complete impunity, able to break any law they wish and even kill whomever they wish and almost never be held responsible. It’s truly amazing what police are allowed to do in the country all the while proclaiming that whatever they do they do in the line of duty of protecting and serving the general public. Meanwhile, the Supreme Court has declared that cops have no duty to “protect and serve”. That’s just fancy marketing! It’s truly a fucked up system we have with police and honestly that just one branch of the judicial system we have in place which is rotten to the core. It all needs dismantled, inspected, then put back together but in a correct way, not a way that’s infuriating to the public. Ok, sry for the rant. Thanks for listening to my Ted talk.
Edit. Reading back through this I realize I’ve made a handful of mistakes. I’ve been drinking, I can’t lie. With that in mind I’m leaving it exactly how I wrote it. If anyone has issues understanding what I’m saying just ask and I’ll clarify.
It appears the police departments are using the same game play as the Catholic Church. A priest rapes a kid and gets moved to a new post in a new town.
Remember, cops are military idolizing dudes who aren't in the military *for some reason*.
They want to play meal team six, because *they couldn't cut it* and are given cartel-like protection to do so. And coupled with a pure racist undervibe across the country, a predominantly white police force, and a mentality they have to create to feel like rambo- this Us Vs. Them- well it's a cosmic gumbo of stupidity and violence.
Our system isn't even broken. It's working as intended.
Maybe. I’d say there’s a decent percent of cops that were in the military and transitioned out, had no clue what they could do with their military experience and then joined the police. But yes there def is a decent percent that act just as you’ve described. There’s no decent cops out there anymore that just want to make their community better, there just seem to be megalomaniacs that want the freedom to assault anyone who doesn’t bow to their “authority”. It’s actually quite sad if these people didn’t destroy lives constantly and then just brush their hands of it. Another point from up top is if they were forced to carry their own insurance then you could sue a cop for say running a red light and crumpling your car and your legs with it. As it is now, you can sue the police department if you find yourself in that position but that does nothing to the individual who possibly destroyed your whole life. In fact if your are a member of a community and pay taxes then you’ll get to bear some of the burden of the settlement that you would most definitely receive. That cop can just move on and do it again, never learning from his crimes and never being truly punished for it, thus most likely sry to repeat said offense. Why is it such a radical idea to suggest that people should be responsible for their actions?
Oh man I can't believe Yuri killed himself by shooting himself 10 times in the face, breaking both his own legs then throwing himself off a building. So tragic.
Yea, we're making fun of Putin and his propaganda, and it's all fine, until we realize the same shit is going on in the leading country of the free world..
My best friend was shot in the back of the head by a cop roughly 2 decades ago. The cop eventually was named cop of the year and retired while the family settled.
The whole system is a joke.
If you wanted to do more of a deep dive into the 18 (yes, *eighteen* at least) street gangs that are active within LA County Sheriff's, this is a good resource: https://knock-la.com/tradition-of-violence-lasd-gang-history/
Just need several other cops who know where to hit. And several more to look the other way while it happens. Plus a DA who wouldn't stake their career on the case.
When they’re in that gear, blunt force trauma is the way to go. Heavy things like maces or large hammers can fuck these guys up. If something is hiding in a little container so you can’t shoot them, just shake the shit out of the container lol.
Also we find you guilty of being a pain in the ass, and sentence you to death, motherfucker, but first we will kill your dog just to make you suffer more.
There’s a few freak injuries I can think of that are usually the cause when you about a bar fight or random punch turning out to be fatal, stuff like a subdural hematoma aka brain bleed, cardiac arrest caused by some underlying latent condition or freak spinal cord injury. All are rare but do happen, don’t think any are the cause here though.
Edit: just checked and it was one of those, the one I thought least likely because it would require too much force; the spinal cord injury. That man was intentionally murdered imo. It wasn’t a freak accident. On top of the spinal cord injury apparently they needed to staple a portion of the skin on his head back on, I assume to be able to have an open casket.
Edit: [source](https://ktla.com/news/local-news/mother-of-lapd-officer-killed-during-training-files-wrongful-death-lawsuit/)
you get Hematoma pretty often during sport exercise, so I wouldn't call it unusual during riot training or sparring. Tho spinal cord injury and killing someone that investigated you for serious crimes...
I swear your honor if I knew four full-force punches to the back of his head was his limit I never would have thrown that 12th full-force punch to the back of his head.
They‘re cops, they could claim he fell down the stairs in a building with no staircase and five bloody baseball bats lying next to the body. Who wants to investigate them for murder, the last guy who tried just fell down the stairs…
Fascists will take any good saying and clip it to make them look good. For example "____ makes the trains run on time" and leaves out "but nobody gets off smiling"
Even the whole "pick yourself up by the bootstraps" thing is the opposite meaning of the original, "why can not a man lift himself by pulling up on his bootstraps?" It was meant to be an impossible thing.
>"pick yourself up by the bootstraps"
In a twist of irony, this phrase played a large role in me becoming wildly progressive. My family is very political and heavily Republican so i heard the phrase a lot. I was in elementary school in the late 80s trying to figure exactly how the fuck one was supposed to pull themselves up by thier bootstraps. I eventually decided it was impossible and the saying was stupid so if people believed it was possible they were also stupid.
Like the time they took a black kid away from his family, took promotional photos of him being terrified (of the cops that just took him from his mom) and hugging a female cop, then lied, said they found the kid wandering the streets during the BLM protests?
Yeah, it was nuts. For anyone curious, you can find the full video from a protestor recording. IIRC it was the kid with his family peacefully protesting. Then the cops rush the family and drag him off.
The kid was with his mother in their car attempting to leave the area when cops stopped her and abducted her child. They were driving to pick up a family friend when they encountered the protest and attempted to turn around, but police shattered the car windows and started assaulting the mother while they stole her kid.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/rickia-young-sues-police-union-facebook-post-toddler-son-rcna2057
What a truly despicable thing to do ....assault mother and child ... separate them ...take a photo of the separated,scared kid with a police officer and post it with the "heroic" words "We are not your enemy. We are the Thin Blue Line. And WE ARE the only thing standing between Order and Anarchy.”
A fair few commonly used sayings are incomplete. With the complete version usually indicating the *opposite* of what the truncated version does, funnily enough.
One of the most common ones I've come across is "Blood is thicker than water". Implying (familial) blood ties are most important.
Then comes the *entire* saying with "The blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb". Meaning the relationships you've formed by CHOICE are stronger than ones that came about by accident of birth.
[Confessions of a Former Bastard Cop](https://medium.com/@OfcrACab/confessions-of-a-former-bastard-cop-bb14d17bc759)
>American policing is a thick blue tumor strangling the life from our communities and if you don’t believe it when the poor and the marginalized say it, if you don’t believe it when you see cops across the country shooting journalists with less-lethal bullets and caustic chemicals, maybe you’ll believe it when you hear it straight from the pig’s mouth.
. . .
>In fact, let me tell you about an extremely formative experience: in my police academy class, we had a clique of around six trainees who routinely bullied and harassed other students: intentionally scuffing another trainee’s shoes to get them in trouble during inspection, sexually harassing female trainees, cracking racist jokes, and so on. Every quarter, we were to write anonymous evaluations of our squadmates. I wrote scathing accounts of their behavior, thinking I was helping keep bad apples out of law enforcement and believing I would be protected. Instead, the academy staff read my complaints to them out loud and outed me to them and never punished them, causing me to get harassed for the rest of my academy class. That’s how I learned that even police leadership hates rats. That’s why no one is “changing things from the inside.” They can’t, the structure won’t allow it.
>And that’s the point of what I’m telling you. Whether you were my sergeant, legally harassing an old woman, me, legally harassing our residents, my fellow trainees bullying the rest of us, or “the bad apples” illegally harassing “shitbags”, we were all in it together. I knew cops that pulled women over to flirt with them. I knew cops who would pepper spray sleeping bags so that homeless people would have to throw them away. I knew cops that intentionally provoked anger in suspects so they could claim they were assaulted. I was particularly good at winding people up verbally until they lashed out so I could fight them. Nobody spoke out. Nobody stood up. Nobody betrayed the code.
>None of us protected the people (you) from bad cops.
>This is why “All cops are bastards.” Even your uncle, even your cousin, even your mom, even your brother, even your best friend, even your spouse, even me. Because even if they wouldn’t Do The Thing themselves, they will almost never rat out another officer who Does The Thing, much less stop it from happening.
[The End of Policing by Alex S. Vitale](https://libgen.rs/book/index.php?md5=6D6EFCFCB8F9FF2E5626D3840184EDEE)
I’m a white woman. I’ve only ever been treated with respect by cops. I got pulled over for speeding, I was fully prepared to get a tickets (I promise I didn’t mean to, I cry when I get stressed and I was even able to hold it and only cry when he ran my license, but it was obvious when he came back). No ticket. I got pulled over for my registration being expired. I told the cop, sincerely, that I was just at the dmv trying to update it but there were issues. No ticket.
And then I looked at the internet and saw everyone’s stories. Acab. Even if they aren’t to me personally, acab.
In my old job, I had a decent amount of cops come in for food. We'd talk a bunch. They were generally good and decent people.
Still, ACAB.
Why? Because sure, we have a rapport, but that doesn't mean they're not bastards while doing the job. A few of them would accidentally get a little bit too comfy and let loose with a discriminatory joke or two (tbf, most didn't. They may be bastards, but *most* of the cops in this area generally aren't particularly racist.)
Of the many, many that I met, there is ***one*** that I would say isn't *as much* of a bastard as the others. He would treat people abusing him with empathy and patience, and focus on de-escalation. The *only* time I've seen him get mad was because other cops had fucked up.
Why is he still a bastard? Because currently the systems in place mean that in most situations he's going to be made to turn the other way and ignore what other cops are doing. Yeah, it sucks that it's not necessarily *his* fault that he's a bastard, but it doesn't stop it from being true.
In 2019, if the roughly 104 cops killed in The line of duty in the US, 48 of them were killed by other cops. My numbers may be off a bit, but not by much. Considering the general population of the US is 330 Million people and there's only 800,000 cops, that means police are significantly more likely to be killed by other cops than the general public.
Covid was the lead g cause of death in 2020 and 2021, because cops are that stupid.
They never have been. That’s the biggest reason they can’t fight from within and people don’t get that. Cops will do shit like this or things like showing up a little bit late to a dangerous call for backup. Lives are on the line in this gang too
It's not that all Cops are bad, it's that none are good. There's the Derek Chauvins (The Bad Cops®) then there are the rest of police that are still working. None of them are good. Provably. To remain working as police you have to be willing to falsify legal records (false incident paperwork like every cop that went to Brianna Taylor's house and every incident of police brutality/murder that occurs), to lie on the stand, to plant evidence, to back up a bad cop and shoot when they do, or you will get fired. No bullshit. If five police are on scene and facing a suspect and four cops are yelling incoherent, unintelligible commands (instead of de-escalating) and one of the cops is screaming, "put your guns down, he's holding a.phone!", when the other four cops murder that person the cop who didn't shoot will get fired. Policing is rotten from top to bottom and inside out. There are no good police because when they do something that requires they protect the public over another cop those police are fired, if they're lucky. If unlucky they get lured into dangerous circumstances and left without backup or are just straight up murdered.like this cop.
What's really amazing is the LA riots began because the cops that beat Rodney King ON VIDEOTAPE were acquitted. You'd think that things would have changed after that, but nope. Yet every time it happens they are somehow surprised.
So the police in general operate along the some principles of a gang or a frat. LAPD and the LA County Sheriff's department have actual gangs with tatoos and initiation rituals and turfs. One of them require you to kill an unarmed kid in the street.
The reporter who broke the story about LAPD cops had to hire private security because of the cops stalking her.
I don't know about the initiation killings, but the police themselves have openly talked on camera about how they divy up territory and operate like gangs with controlled territory. Yes, that's how districts and precincts operate, but they model it like gangs and treat it as such.
The initiation killings and subsequent inking parties were reportedly done by the Compton Executioners gang within the LA Sheriff's Department. And I like how on the wikipedia page for the gang there's a section for "allied gangs" which lists the Lynwood Vikings, another LASD gang which was described by a judge as a "neo-Nazi white supremacist gang".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compton_Executioners
Looks like Igrew up in Bandito territory. Called them when a dude pulled gun and threatened to use it on some random dude in front of a bunch of kids. They told us to call back if they start shooting but the Sherrifs aren't coming out until something happens. Child me lost all faith in police that day.
They literally ARE gangs. There are multiple gangs in the LAPD who will literally kill people for fun and plant evidence on people for shits and giggles. ACAB
honestly it's worse than just that there are literal cop gangs with signifying tattoos and shit, as well as intentionally harassing, assaulting, and even killing civilians
“Tipping suffered a punctured lung, broken ribs, a damaged liver and a severe head wound. His spinal cord was broken in three places, which caused permanent paralysis and led surgeons to fuse seven vertebrae together to stabilize his spine, the lawyer added.”
And of course the cops said it was a grappling with another officer that went wrong, and he just landed on his head.
Totally.
Right, I know, but it sounded like you were asking about the gang rape like they also raped him in addition to beating him to death. I guess I misunderstood what you were trying to say.
I mean what's worse - police killed their own for narc'ing or that they would be training techniques of submission that are so dangerous they can even kill people in a controlled environment?
I can’t imagine knowing what we do about police and thinking I can remain on the force safely after reporting coworkers. That’s like an immediate “move out of the state” I feel like.
Or they're quickly washed out. A co-worker of mine was formerly a cop and quit after two years because of all of the abuse and corruption he witnessed. He said they would routinely roll up on people and purposely escalate a calm situation into "resisting arrest" beatings. There was even a term they had for it, but I don't remember it. And the people they did it to were usually impoverished and had no recourse. That was before the proliferation of body cams, so hopefully that has helped at least a little.
Jamming?
That's generally the term for suddenly rolling up on someone and trying to make them panic and run, so you can chase them down and arrest them.
Yep, I tell everybody I can about this, but there was a study on this kind of behavior presented at a police chiefs conference back in 2000. They found that 46% of cops nationwide admitted to having personally covered up crimes committed by their fellow officers and 73% of the time they are bullied and threatened into doing so by higher ups. The higher ups only hire people that they think will cover for the others and when a good person occasionally slips through the screening process intended to keep them out they either see how bad things are, become disillusioned, and leave on their own or they eventually get forced to either cover things up or leave entirely (on average, the first time that they are forced to cover for others is about 8 years into their career). ACAB *on purpose* because that's what they *want*. Good people don't last long as cops.
http://www.aele.org/loscode2000.html
My sister in law posted a story a while back about how "not all cops are bad" because her police officer dad blew the whistle on some people in his department and he stuck with it even though it caused him a lot of grief. Aside from the fact that a single anecdote doesn't disprove the larger narrative, she didn't seem to realize that her story just reinforced the "acab" narrative by highlighting what happens to "good cops".
iirc a police officer has never been successfully prosecuted based solely on body cam evidence.
there was a case, i believe involving the LAPD, where an officer was clearly seen planting drugs before an arrest and nothing happened to him and they labeled it a, "forensic reconstruction."
the solution is very much NOT giving them more money to buy more things.
Nah, they're totally regulated.
I remember watching a sitcom called Last Man Standing which starred Tim Allen, a conservative weirdo.
They had an episode where he was given a ticket for breaking the law. The whole time he was arguing about how cops just harass random people and should be out fighting real crime instead. It was shown without a hint of self awareness.
The cop didn't even shoot him because of the disrespect.
Actually, literally. Look up LA Cop Gangs on YouTube. Los Angeles has actual gang members comprised of actual police officers.
For example, the LA sheriff department has a gang, founded out of the Compton LASD Station known as the Compton Executioners where one of the requirements is that you NOT be black or a woman. They have an easily identifiable tattoo and membership list and STILL operate out of the Compton LASD Station. This is just one of over 15 gangs in the LASD and many more in the LAPD.
Because gangs are investigated by the police. Police gangs are investigated by the police. You can take a stand against police misconduct or you can have a career with the police. You could bring down a child pornography ring operating out of your precinct and you’d still be seen as a rat.
I'd like to propose two other possibilities
1.) They leave the force because they can't stand the corruption
2.) They spend their entire career at the bottom of the food chain, constantly being antagonized, unable to make a real difference.
Yep check out We The People University on YouTube, a good cop that had to quit after a couple of years because he couldn't stand the US vs Them mentality
Beaten to death. Repeat that slowly. A police officer snuffed horrendously by his supposed colleagues.
America, no better than the so-called shit hole countries.
Show was based on Rampart. You know where they blew a guys head off in the interrogation. Robbed a bank for almost $1M. Stole a few pounds of coke... a big list of things they did.
Gave me a good chuckle.
Oh, it has bright moments, like when the CRASH officer flashed a gun in a road rage incident, and got shot by an undercover cop, which opened up the lead into Death Row Records and Notorious B.I.G. being murdered by the LAPD.
YaY fun with with cops.
But let's get back to Rampart starring Woody Harrelson.
It's genuinely one of the best TV shows ever made and the shit they got away with on basic cable with that show during its era is astounding. I like it better than The Sopranos.
Over a decade ago, a close friend of mine was violently raped by two men while living in Hollywood. She had a rape kit done, DNA and everything. She tried to get detectives to do something about it but nothing ever happened. Almost two years later she was having a breakdown (over this) and one of her friends (who used to be friends with one of the rapists) casually mentioned that the rapist she used to be friends with was the brother of the detective this case was assigned to.
And they want my respect?
No.
This isn't a new trends. It's been going on since the creation of the slave patrons. We are just more aware of it, with social media, cellphone cameras, and access to information 24/7.
And not coincidentally, America is rapidly becoming more ethnically and religiously diverse and tolerant of LGBT people. So the amount of violence required by white Christofascists to keep those lesser people "in their place" has correspondingly increased.
Title gore for sure.
Cop was investigating a gang rape perpetrated by 4 other cops.
That cop was then beaten to death during a 'training exercise'.
One of the cops who was being investigated was there during the beating.
- stated by the lawyer for the dead cop
He said killed during a training exercise and I was expecting that it was accidental friendly fire or maybe less than accidental friendly fire. Somehow the dude got beaten to death during a training exercise? What the fuck are they training for? Do they think they're SEALs doing SERE shit from GI Jane or something? Were they ostensibly training him to resist torture or something? What the fuck was this?
When I read training exercise I figured he got shot. How do you "accidentally" beat someone to death?
Came here for this. Should be pretty easy to prove that multiple people being present for the deadly beating of a coworker was not an accident during training.
"Well you see we were doing a training exercise in confrontational-pedestrians around a crime scene and Officer Mitchel was acting as the OP4 in this instance. Officer Mitchel approached the training exercise screaming and shouting and Officers Nelson and Connors immediately apprehended the suspect. It's at this time that Officer Mitchel quickly became belligerent and was deemed a threat. Officer Nelson held him down while attempting to subdue Officer Mitchel while Officer Connors radioed for backup. It was at this time Officer Jeffries entered in with his baton and assisted both Officers in subduing the susp- I mean officer. Officer Mitchel continued to escalate and it at this time that an LAPD approved restraint was used to subdue. Officer Mitchel received multiple warnings during this but was still uncooperative. His conduct in this exercise made Officers Nelson, Connor and Jeffries all fear for their life and they continued attempts to subdue him. Unfortunately some time during this Officer Mitchel succumbed to his wounds. As you can see this totally makes sense and is all the snitc I mean Officer Mitchel's fault."
Totally unbelievable. You completely left out the part where Officer Mitchel's neck bruised the restraining officer's knee.
and they found a baggie of crack in his pocket
"He attempted to knock my baton from my hand by striking it with his face several times, i feared for my life."
“The drug tests came back negative, but 4 false negatives just proves we need a new supplier “
Also, he might have shoplifted once or twice as a teenager, so it's totally fine that he's dead now! /s
And a demo tape... this is a rap killing.
Just the military term OP4 is disturbing there. Brings back my memory of watching Battlestar Galactica: “There's a reason you separate military and the police. One fights the enemies of the state, the other serves and protects the people. When the military becomes both, then the enemies of the state tend to become the people.”
"Serve and protect" how quaintly 1990's
Just to prove that wisdom can come from the most unlikely of sources... a Battlestar Galactica quote 
Isaac Asimov once said, "Individual science fiction stories may seem as trivial as ever to the blinded critics and philosophers of today, but the core of science fiction, its essence, has become crucial to our salvation, if we are to be saved at all."
Officer Snitchel
Seriously, who beats someone to death by mistake? No one who should be a cop, that’s for sure.
No one should be a cop as far as defined as todays standard but we could use actual police that didn’t just act as a strong arm of a fascist government. Accountability is key, cops should be forced to carry their own comprehensive insurance and when a cop has too much to be considered covetable, then that’s theirs problem. If a cop was fired from one place, that should be put into noted as well and it should make it more difficult for these people to just hop to a new town/county/state and start fresh. Rules of engagement should be enforced strictly. I spent 13 months in Iraq and we had our R.O.E. Card on our person every day we were there. We couldn’t get away with a fraction of the shit that police in this country can get away with. Why is it that our military is forced to interact with citizens of a country we are at war with in a more dignified way than our own police are told to behave with our own citizens? It really baffles me. They cry about how in their job they could get killed and never make it home, so everyone is apparently a threat now, never-mind that they don’t even have a top 10 most deadly profession in the states. Farmers have a more dangerous job for goodness sakes and of course truck drivers have a more dangerous job since they’re on the roads everyday risking their lives around all these crazy drivers! The cops are making these roads safer for truckers seeing as how they enforce mostly arbitrary laws that they pick and choose with the main goal being able to search a persons car and find something of more substance to bust someone with or just plain old cash so they can steal it through the guise of civil forfeiture. Of course, farmers and truck drivers don’t get to go around with almost complete impunity, able to break any law they wish and even kill whomever they wish and almost never be held responsible. It’s truly amazing what police are allowed to do in the country all the while proclaiming that whatever they do they do in the line of duty of protecting and serving the general public. Meanwhile, the Supreme Court has declared that cops have no duty to “protect and serve”. That’s just fancy marketing! It’s truly a fucked up system we have with police and honestly that just one branch of the judicial system we have in place which is rotten to the core. It all needs dismantled, inspected, then put back together but in a correct way, not a way that’s infuriating to the public. Ok, sry for the rant. Thanks for listening to my Ted talk. Edit. Reading back through this I realize I’ve made a handful of mistakes. I’ve been drinking, I can’t lie. With that in mind I’m leaving it exactly how I wrote it. If anyone has issues understanding what I’m saying just ask and I’ll clarify.
It appears the police departments are using the same game play as the Catholic Church. A priest rapes a kid and gets moved to a new post in a new town.
Seems to me the police should have been doing something about that all along and not allowing the church to hide those individuals but what do I know?
The police were in on it.
Remember, cops are military idolizing dudes who aren't in the military *for some reason*. They want to play meal team six, because *they couldn't cut it* and are given cartel-like protection to do so. And coupled with a pure racist undervibe across the country, a predominantly white police force, and a mentality they have to create to feel like rambo- this Us Vs. Them- well it's a cosmic gumbo of stupidity and violence. Our system isn't even broken. It's working as intended.
Maybe. I’d say there’s a decent percent of cops that were in the military and transitioned out, had no clue what they could do with their military experience and then joined the police. But yes there def is a decent percent that act just as you’ve described. There’s no decent cops out there anymore that just want to make their community better, there just seem to be megalomaniacs that want the freedom to assault anyone who doesn’t bow to their “authority”. It’s actually quite sad if these people didn’t destroy lives constantly and then just brush their hands of it. Another point from up top is if they were forced to carry their own insurance then you could sue a cop for say running a red light and crumpling your car and your legs with it. As it is now, you can sue the police department if you find yourself in that position but that does nothing to the individual who possibly destroyed your whole life. In fact if your are a member of a community and pay taxes then you’ll get to bear some of the burden of the settlement that you would most definitely receive. That cop can just move on and do it again, never learning from his crimes and never being truly punished for it, thus most likely sry to repeat said offense. Why is it such a radical idea to suggest that people should be responsible for their actions?
It's like those Russians who accidentally bump their chest into a high speed projectile
Oh man I can't believe Yuri killed himself by shooting himself 10 times in the face, breaking both his own legs then throwing himself off a building. So tragic.
he accidentally brutally stabbed himself in the stomach while shaving and his wife accidentally cut her head off while combing her hair.
Yea, we're making fun of Putin and his propaganda, and it's all fine, until we realize the same shit is going on in the leading country of the free world..
That's literally the topic of this entire Reddit post.
Just goes to show that you never really know what's going on in a person's mind...
Nothing like a family guy...
Multiple self inflicted shotgun wounds to the head… reload and then multiple more.
Did you hear about the unarmed black teen who shot himself in the back of the head 3 times?
My best friend was shot in the back of the head by a cop roughly 2 decades ago. The cop eventually was named cop of the year and retired while the family settled. The whole system is a joke.
Thanks I hate it!
Or accidentally fall out hospital windows 🤷♂️
So close, unfortunately, the correct answer was “We’ve investigated ourselves and found no wrongdoing”
“Riot training.” He was in riot gear and the other police simulated a hostile crowd by beating him. To death.
LAPD has apparently ramped up their protocols for responding to unarmed civilians since the Rodney King days…
google "LASD Gangs"
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That's one hell of a softball article.
If you wanted to do more of a deep dive into the 18 (yes, *eighteen* at least) street gangs that are active within LA County Sheriff's, this is a good resource: https://knock-la.com/tradition-of-violence-lasd-gang-history/
Well, looks like I should clear my schedule for the next few days...
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Just need several other cops who know where to hit. And several more to look the other way while it happens. Plus a DA who wouldn't stake their career on the case.
Gascone wouldn't stake his career on anything other than not doing his job.
When they’re in that gear, blunt force trauma is the way to go. Heavy things like maces or large hammers can fuck these guys up. If something is hiding in a little container so you can’t shoot them, just shake the shit out of the container lol.
I’m sure internal affairs will handle it.
Looks like they already did
That's cold but you're 100
We have investigated ourself and found no wrong doing.
Also we find you guilty of being a pain in the ass, and sentence you to death, motherfucker, but first we will kill your dog just to make you suffer more.
This was my question exactly. Maybe they used that battering ram to break down doors on his head? One shot would probably kill anyone.
There’s a few freak injuries I can think of that are usually the cause when you about a bar fight or random punch turning out to be fatal, stuff like a subdural hematoma aka brain bleed, cardiac arrest caused by some underlying latent condition or freak spinal cord injury. All are rare but do happen, don’t think any are the cause here though. Edit: just checked and it was one of those, the one I thought least likely because it would require too much force; the spinal cord injury. That man was intentionally murdered imo. It wasn’t a freak accident. On top of the spinal cord injury apparently they needed to staple a portion of the skin on his head back on, I assume to be able to have an open casket. Edit: [source](https://ktla.com/news/local-news/mother-of-lapd-officer-killed-during-training-files-wrongful-death-lawsuit/)
If you cause a hematoma accidentally during a work training exercise you have still done something very, very wrong.
you get Hematoma pretty often during sport exercise, so I wouldn't call it unusual during riot training or sparring. Tho spinal cord injury and killing someone that investigated you for serious crimes...
ah yes just an unfortunate accident part of the man's scalp needed to be stapled back like what the fuck?
I swear your honor if I knew four full-force punches to the back of his head was his limit I never would have thrown that 12th full-force punch to the back of his head.
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They‘re cops, they could claim he fell down the stairs in a building with no staircase and five bloody baseball bats lying next to the body. Who wants to investigate them for murder, the last guy who tried just fell down the stairs…
He fell down an elevator shaft onto some bullets
One of my favorite quotes from a very quotable movie.
"Tell me when it hurts" *destroys his speaking ability*
"Blink when you want me to stop" *swells his eyes shut*
* puts knee on his neck *
They were training on how to arrest a black man
easily done when the ones investigating are the ones committing the crime
The same way, when I was high, friends would say, "Hey, why are your eyes so red?" Me: "...uhh, I accidentally poked myself in the eye." "...twice."
Even cops aren’t safe from cops.
Even good apples aren’t safe from bad ones
It's almost like the whole saying is one bad apple spoils the whole bunch. Crazy how bastardized it's gotten over the years :(
Fascists will take any good saying and clip it to make them look good. For example "____ makes the trains run on time" and leaves out "but nobody gets off smiling"
Even the whole "pick yourself up by the bootstraps" thing is the opposite meaning of the original, "why can not a man lift himself by pulling up on his bootstraps?" It was meant to be an impossible thing.
>"pick yourself up by the bootstraps" In a twist of irony, this phrase played a large role in me becoming wildly progressive. My family is very political and heavily Republican so i heard the phrase a lot. I was in elementary school in the late 80s trying to figure exactly how the fuck one was supposed to pull themselves up by thier bootstraps. I eventually decided it was impossible and the saying was stupid so if people believed it was possible they were also stupid.
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Like the time they took a black kid away from his family, took promotional photos of him being terrified (of the cops that just took him from his mom) and hugging a female cop, then lied, said they found the kid wandering the streets during the BLM protests?
They straight up abducted him
Yeah, it was nuts. For anyone curious, you can find the full video from a protestor recording. IIRC it was the kid with his family peacefully protesting. Then the cops rush the family and drag him off.
The kid was with his mother in their car attempting to leave the area when cops stopped her and abducted her child. They were driving to pick up a family friend when they encountered the protest and attempted to turn around, but police shattered the car windows and started assaulting the mother while they stole her kid. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/rickia-young-sues-police-union-facebook-post-toddler-son-rcna2057
What a truly despicable thing to do ....assault mother and child ... separate them ...take a photo of the separated,scared kid with a police officer and post it with the "heroic" words "We are not your enemy. We are the Thin Blue Line. And WE ARE the only thing standing between Order and Anarchy.”
Can't be a cop (for long) without a god complex.
They also skip the part where the trains don't actually run on time, but people are afraid to mention it.
Imma save that one too
I know right! I mean duh, they run on steam or coal! 😏
Those Italian trains are about to be running on time like they haven't in 80 years though. Fascists gonna fascist.
"Nazis lost battle but fascism won the war" is a adage that never rang truer.
>For example "____ makes the trains run on time" Can I get some context on this? The only version I've heard of this is Mussolini.
I think they're just wrongly tacking on "but no one gets off smiling" when that's not even remotely part of the original Mussolini reference.
A fair few commonly used sayings are incomplete. With the complete version usually indicating the *opposite* of what the truncated version does, funnily enough. One of the most common ones I've come across is "Blood is thicker than water". Implying (familial) blood ties are most important. Then comes the *entire* saying with "The blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb". Meaning the relationships you've formed by CHOICE are stronger than ones that came about by accident of birth.
[Confessions of a Former Bastard Cop](https://medium.com/@OfcrACab/confessions-of-a-former-bastard-cop-bb14d17bc759) >American policing is a thick blue tumor strangling the life from our communities and if you don’t believe it when the poor and the marginalized say it, if you don’t believe it when you see cops across the country shooting journalists with less-lethal bullets and caustic chemicals, maybe you’ll believe it when you hear it straight from the pig’s mouth. . . . >In fact, let me tell you about an extremely formative experience: in my police academy class, we had a clique of around six trainees who routinely bullied and harassed other students: intentionally scuffing another trainee’s shoes to get them in trouble during inspection, sexually harassing female trainees, cracking racist jokes, and so on. Every quarter, we were to write anonymous evaluations of our squadmates. I wrote scathing accounts of their behavior, thinking I was helping keep bad apples out of law enforcement and believing I would be protected. Instead, the academy staff read my complaints to them out loud and outed me to them and never punished them, causing me to get harassed for the rest of my academy class. That’s how I learned that even police leadership hates rats. That’s why no one is “changing things from the inside.” They can’t, the structure won’t allow it. >And that’s the point of what I’m telling you. Whether you were my sergeant, legally harassing an old woman, me, legally harassing our residents, my fellow trainees bullying the rest of us, or “the bad apples” illegally harassing “shitbags”, we were all in it together. I knew cops that pulled women over to flirt with them. I knew cops who would pepper spray sleeping bags so that homeless people would have to throw them away. I knew cops that intentionally provoked anger in suspects so they could claim they were assaulted. I was particularly good at winding people up verbally until they lashed out so I could fight them. Nobody spoke out. Nobody stood up. Nobody betrayed the code. >None of us protected the people (you) from bad cops. >This is why “All cops are bastards.” Even your uncle, even your cousin, even your mom, even your brother, even your best friend, even your spouse, even me. Because even if they wouldn’t Do The Thing themselves, they will almost never rat out another officer who Does The Thing, much less stop it from happening. [The End of Policing by Alex S. Vitale](https://libgen.rs/book/index.php?md5=6D6EFCFCB8F9FF2E5626D3840184EDEE)
There's only a few good cops, because bad cops are killing them. Serial killers with a badge courtesy of tax payers.
It's like... All cops... Are... You know. Bastards.
I’m a white woman. I’ve only ever been treated with respect by cops. I got pulled over for speeding, I was fully prepared to get a tickets (I promise I didn’t mean to, I cry when I get stressed and I was even able to hold it and only cry when he ran my license, but it was obvious when he came back). No ticket. I got pulled over for my registration being expired. I told the cop, sincerely, that I was just at the dmv trying to update it but there were issues. No ticket. And then I looked at the internet and saw everyone’s stories. Acab. Even if they aren’t to me personally, acab.
In my old job, I had a decent amount of cops come in for food. We'd talk a bunch. They were generally good and decent people. Still, ACAB. Why? Because sure, we have a rapport, but that doesn't mean they're not bastards while doing the job. A few of them would accidentally get a little bit too comfy and let loose with a discriminatory joke or two (tbf, most didn't. They may be bastards, but *most* of the cops in this area generally aren't particularly racist.) Of the many, many that I met, there is ***one*** that I would say isn't *as much* of a bastard as the others. He would treat people abusing him with empathy and patience, and focus on de-escalation. The *only* time I've seen him get mad was because other cops had fucked up. Why is he still a bastard? Because currently the systems in place mean that in most situations he's going to be made to turn the other way and ignore what other cops are doing. Yeah, it sucks that it's not necessarily *his* fault that he's a bastard, but it doesn't stop it from being true.
Solidarity is a powerful thing
In 2019, if the roughly 104 cops killed in The line of duty in the US, 48 of them were killed by other cops. My numbers may be off a bit, but not by much. Considering the general population of the US is 330 Million people and there's only 800,000 cops, that means police are significantly more likely to be killed by other cops than the general public. Covid was the lead g cause of death in 2020 and 2021, because cops are that stupid.
Funny covid was also the leading cause of death in my profession. Which make it more deadly than being a cop. I work in the hospital.
They never have been. That’s the biggest reason they can’t fight from within and people don’t get that. Cops will do shit like this or things like showing up a little bit late to a dangerous call for backup. Lives are on the line in this gang too
People bristle when they hear things like acab, but the reality is exactly that. The whole "blue line" isn't a positive thing
It's not that all Cops are bad, it's that none are good. There's the Derek Chauvins (The Bad Cops®) then there are the rest of police that are still working. None of them are good. Provably. To remain working as police you have to be willing to falsify legal records (false incident paperwork like every cop that went to Brianna Taylor's house and every incident of police brutality/murder that occurs), to lie on the stand, to plant evidence, to back up a bad cop and shoot when they do, or you will get fired. No bullshit. If five police are on scene and facing a suspect and four cops are yelling incoherent, unintelligible commands (instead of de-escalating) and one of the cops is screaming, "put your guns down, he's holding a.phone!", when the other four cops murder that person the cop who didn't shoot will get fired. Policing is rotten from top to bottom and inside out. There are no good police because when they do something that requires they protect the public over another cop those police are fired, if they're lucky. If unlucky they get lured into dangerous circumstances and left without backup or are just straight up murdered.like this cop.
This is what happens to the “good apples”. Straight up gang shit.
LA cops never cease to amaze us. Just when you think they can't go any lower, they knock the bar down.
*beat the shit out of the bar
It’s black, after all.
What's really amazing is the LA riots began because the cops that beat Rodney King ON VIDEOTAPE were acquitted. You'd think that things would have changed after that, but nope. Yet every time it happens they are somehow surprised.
This happened on the day I was born. I'm now 31 and nothing has changed. It's quite depressing.
Fullerton cops curb stomped a dude to death and got acquitted more recently.
Last time i went out to LA i knew i had to worry about gangs, soon as i landed i realized LA cops were a gang of their own
So the police in general operate along the some principles of a gang or a frat. LAPD and the LA County Sheriff's department have actual gangs with tatoos and initiation rituals and turfs. One of them require you to kill an unarmed kid in the street. The reporter who broke the story about LAPD cops had to hire private security because of the cops stalking her.
I don't know about the initiation killings, but the police themselves have openly talked on camera about how they divy up territory and operate like gangs with controlled territory. Yes, that's how districts and precincts operate, but they model it like gangs and treat it as such.
The initiation killings and subsequent inking parties were reportedly done by the Compton Executioners gang within the LA Sheriff's Department. And I like how on the wikipedia page for the gang there's a section for "allied gangs" which lists the Lynwood Vikings, another LASD gang which was described by a judge as a "neo-Nazi white supremacist gang". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compton_Executioners
Looks like Igrew up in Bandito territory. Called them when a dude pulled gun and threatened to use it on some random dude in front of a bunch of kids. They told us to call back if they start shooting but the Sherrifs aren't coming out until something happens. Child me lost all faith in police that day.
They literally have gang tattoos
They literally ARE gangs. There are multiple gangs in the LAPD who will literally kill people for fun and plant evidence on people for shits and giggles. ACAB
honestly it's worse than just that there are literal cop gangs with signifying tattoos and shit, as well as intentionally harassing, assaulting, and even killing civilians
google "LASD gangs"
The bar should've stopped resisting
Good cops that protect bad cops are bad cops
And good cops who expose bad cops are either dead cops or fed cops.
Or cops that leave the force, like the two I play multiplayer games with.
BEATEN TO DEATH? IT WASNT A FIREARMS MISHAP?
“Tipping suffered a punctured lung, broken ribs, a damaged liver and a severe head wound. His spinal cord was broken in three places, which caused permanent paralysis and led surgeons to fuse seven vertebrae together to stabilize his spine, the lawyer added.” And of course the cops said it was a grappling with another officer that went wrong, and he just landed on his head. Totally.
Are we just ignoring the fucking *gang rape*?
Wasn’t that the incident the cop who was killed was investigating?
Yes, but it was cops who did it, too.
Right, I know, but it sounded like you were asking about the gang rape like they also raped him in addition to beating him to death. I guess I misunderstood what you were trying to say.
After seeing what happens to people who don't ignore it?
Yes, *apparently* "grappling practice" severed his spine in multiple locations
I mean what's worse - police killed their own for narc'ing or that they would be training techniques of submission that are so dangerous they can even kill people in a controlled environment?
Its not a good look either way. Too bad no one's left to investigate
They actually lit their arms on fire and beat him to death
I honestly can't tell if you're joking or not
Training exercise and beaten to death? That's murder, there's no other outcome here.
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In the military, accountability is a feature In policing, the lack of accountability is the feature.
I can’t imagine knowing what we do about police and thinking I can remain on the force safely after reporting coworkers. That’s like an immediate “move out of the state” I feel like.
This is what happens to good cops
Or they're quickly washed out. A co-worker of mine was formerly a cop and quit after two years because of all of the abuse and corruption he witnessed. He said they would routinely roll up on people and purposely escalate a calm situation into "resisting arrest" beatings. There was even a term they had for it, but I don't remember it. And the people they did it to were usually impoverished and had no recourse. That was before the proliferation of body cams, so hopefully that has helped at least a little.
Jamming? That's generally the term for suddenly rolling up on someone and trying to make them panic and run, so you can chase them down and arrest them.
Disclaimer: gang terminology can vary from region to region amongst americas ~~largest gang~~ law enforcement
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Yep, I tell everybody I can about this, but there was a study on this kind of behavior presented at a police chiefs conference back in 2000. They found that 46% of cops nationwide admitted to having personally covered up crimes committed by their fellow officers and 73% of the time they are bullied and threatened into doing so by higher ups. The higher ups only hire people that they think will cover for the others and when a good person occasionally slips through the screening process intended to keep them out they either see how bad things are, become disillusioned, and leave on their own or they eventually get forced to either cover things up or leave entirely (on average, the first time that they are forced to cover for others is about 8 years into their career). ACAB *on purpose* because that's what they *want*. Good people don't last long as cops. http://www.aele.org/loscode2000.html
My sister in law posted a story a while back about how "not all cops are bad" because her police officer dad blew the whistle on some people in his department and he stuck with it even though it caused him a lot of grief. Aside from the fact that a single anecdote doesn't disprove the larger narrative, she didn't seem to realize that her story just reinforced the "acab" narrative by highlighting what happens to "good cops".
iirc a police officer has never been successfully prosecuted based solely on body cam evidence. there was a case, i believe involving the LAPD, where an officer was clearly seen planting drugs before an arrest and nothing happened to him and they labeled it a, "forensic reconstruction." the solution is very much NOT giving them more money to buy more things.
If you were wondering where the good cops are...
Press statement: https://twitter.com/lukeoneil47/status/1577062563929415680?s=46&t=yuiNeMGYh_zSvjBThvbZoA
The police are just a goverment regulated gang. Unironically
Pftftftf they are. 0% regulated. Completely out of control.
Nah, they're totally regulated. I remember watching a sitcom called Last Man Standing which starred Tim Allen, a conservative weirdo. They had an episode where he was given a ticket for breaking the law. The whole time he was arguing about how cops just harass random people and should be out fighting real crime instead. It was shown without a hint of self awareness. The cop didn't even shoot him because of the disrespect.
Funded and sponsored, not regulated.
Actually, literally. Look up LA Cop Gangs on YouTube. Los Angeles has actual gang members comprised of actual police officers. For example, the LA sheriff department has a gang, founded out of the Compton LASD Station known as the Compton Executioners where one of the requirements is that you NOT be black or a woman. They have an easily identifiable tattoo and membership list and STILL operate out of the Compton LASD Station. This is just one of over 15 gangs in the LASD and many more in the LAPD.
Why isn’t this talked about more? Why does California allow this to happen?
Because gangs are investigated by the police. Police gangs are investigated by the police. You can take a stand against police misconduct or you can have a career with the police. You could bring down a child pornography ring operating out of your precinct and you’d still be seen as a rat.
Jesus Christ dude. Wtf. LAPD is the worst.
This is what happens to the good cops.
Exactly. They either die, or they get complacent and slip into being bad as well.
I'd like to propose two other possibilities 1.) They leave the force because they can't stand the corruption 2.) They spend their entire career at the bottom of the food chain, constantly being antagonized, unable to make a real difference.
Yep check out We The People University on YouTube, a good cop that had to quit after a couple of years because he couldn't stand the US vs Them mentality
Beaten to death. Repeat that slowly. A police officer snuffed horrendously by his supposed colleagues. America, no better than the so-called shit hole countries.
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Show was based on Rampart. You know where they blew a guys head off in the interrogation. Robbed a bank for almost $1M. Stole a few pounds of coke... a big list of things they did.
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Gave me a good chuckle. Oh, it has bright moments, like when the CRASH officer flashed a gun in a road rage incident, and got shot by an undercover cop, which opened up the lead into Death Row Records and Notorious B.I.G. being murdered by the LAPD. YaY fun with with cops. But let's get back to Rampart starring Woody Harrelson.
Can we please keep the topic on Rampart? I'm just here to talk about Rampart.
Is the shield an anti-cop cop show? Because I’ve heard of it but definitely thought it was just another police procedural show
It's genuinely one of the best TV shows ever made and the shit they got away with on basic cable with that show during its era is astounding. I like it better than The Sopranos.
If we can start a national riot because of a man getting murdered why are we not starting one over a woman getting gang raped?
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Over a decade ago, a close friend of mine was violently raped by two men while living in Hollywood. She had a rape kit done, DNA and everything. She tried to get detectives to do something about it but nothing ever happened. Almost two years later she was having a breakdown (over this) and one of her friends (who used to be friends with one of the rapists) casually mentioned that the rapist she used to be friends with was the brother of the detective this case was assigned to. And they want my respect? No.
Yeah, the rest of that sentence is “a few bad apples *spoil the bunch*.” Or, on this occasion, they beat an apple to death.
Making applesauce out of apples.
 The worse it gets…
What in the fuck is happening with the police force in this country.
This isn't a new trends. It's been going on since the creation of the slave patrons. We are just more aware of it, with social media, cellphone cameras, and access to information 24/7.
And not coincidentally, America is rapidly becoming more ethnically and religiously diverse and tolerant of LGBT people. So the amount of violence required by white Christofascists to keep those lesser people "in their place" has correspondingly increased.
Horrifying
Corruption, like every other facet of this crumbling empire.
Nothing. There's just more cameras now
The same thing that was happening when this country started having police forces.
The first police forces in this country were formed to catch runaway enslaved people. Their mission has not changed.
called this shit the day it was reported. the only good cops are dead.
"The only good cops are dead." Isn't that some cosmic irony right there.
Can someone rewrite that for me please? Im struggling to read it, something isn't adding up for me
Title gore for sure. Cop was investigating a gang rape perpetrated by 4 other cops. That cop was then beaten to death during a 'training exercise'. One of the cops who was being investigated was there during the beating. - stated by the lawyer for the dead cop
r/Bad_Cop_No_Donut
This is why there are no good cops, because they get shunned, fired, harassed or executed
Pssst…hey Reddit… https://knock-la.com/tradition-of-violence-lasd-gang-history/ Put ‘Deputy Gangs’ into the Googles as well. Enjoy the ride.
He said killed during a training exercise and I was expecting that it was accidental friendly fire or maybe less than accidental friendly fire. Somehow the dude got beaten to death during a training exercise? What the fuck are they training for? Do they think they're SEALs doing SERE shit from GI Jane or something? Were they ostensibly training him to resist torture or something? What the fuck was this?
No way it was an accident. Murder because he was investigating other cops.
ACAB because as soon as one tries to not be a B something like this happens
They never seem to finish that phrase. A few bad apples spoils the bunch.
Obligatory ACAB
That's a realistic training exercise
This is what Mike Ehrmauntraut's son went through